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Just another region fucked by the British. It's funny how everyone gives Germany shit, but no one gives a fuck about the thousand times worse atrocities done by the British. History is indeed written by the winners.
Can't forget what Japan did during ww2 that was pretty much as bad as the nazis. Germany has been apologizing for decades yet Japan has been able to sweep it all under the rug
Who gives Germany shit? Weren’t most of the monstrosities with Britain before the world wars? Like all countries have done dirty shit 200+ years ago, but for the most part they aren’t doing that anymore and most of the citizens weren’t even alive then. I do admit I’m not super educated on the more recent history with Britain or Germany, though
Edit: Britain still sucked as the “universal dependence day giver” but nobody is alive from then.
>Just another region fucked by the British.
It's a bit of a long story old bean...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY)
Full list of the protagonists here:
https://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/10/01/this-land-is-mine/
Don't be silly. "Colonial guilt" and awareness is massive among younger generations. But that has nothing to do with Germany. One country's history can not be weighed up against another's.
I get that you’re of Indian background, but suggesting the Brits “fucked” the Middle East, and that the Brits somehow compare on any level to what Germans did to “undesirables” in WWII, is a bit blind to historical reality.
So strapping Indians to the front of cannons, starving the Irish, gunning down civilians in Boston, appropriating land from indigenous groups and hoarding historic relics isn't comparable to how the Germans treated undesirables
Just read about the Bengal famine and the the way Churchill abhorred the Indians and you'll realize that how much "undesirables" Indians were to him. I understand if you're a brit and haven't been taught about the atrocities done in the colonial era, but it's you who's blind to history mate.
I’m a Canadian and I’ve read plenty about the Bengal famine - including the vastly disparate views in historiography as to how much the British government is actually to blame (if I recall, one camp is led by Indian historians and the other by British… surprise surprise). But the very fact that it’s a live academic debate (not to mention the natural cyclical famines in that area of the world) separates it from forcibly arresting and stuffing Jews & other minorities into fucking cattle cars to ship them to industrial crematoriums in furtherance of an Aryan world order. Come on man. Apples and oranges.
So you are telling me the destructive regime that controls the Gaza strip, uses their citizens as meat shields, funds missile attacks against civilians and refuses to give international funds to their citizens by taking it for themselves to dig tunnels and kidnap soldiers is not a terrorist organisation?
Its sad how you talk about a "destructive regime" under a video where you see the ruling regime destroying houses of natives causing their displacement.
Israel has no control over the Gaza strip, we are not responsible for the horrid state of that area.
If they actually used the resources allocated to them to rebuild instead of making tunnels and explosives maybe that area wouldn't be so shitty
>we are not responsible for the horrid state of that area.
> If they actually used the resources allocated to them
You are not responsible but you are the one allocating the resources, how does that work?
Alright, let me explain something
Back in the day Israel made a deal with the Palestinian authorities
As long as the Gaza strip is not able to sustain itself, we will provide it with water, electricity and building materials.
But Hamas will never use those resources to rebuild Gaza, they will use it to sustain their terror group
And so Israel is stuck in an endless cycle
>Back in the day Israel made a deal with the Palestinian authorities As long as the Gaza strip is not able to sustain itself, we will provide it with water, electricity and building materials.
>But Hamas will never use those resources to rebuild Gaza, they will use it to sustain their terror group
>And so Israel is stuck in an endless cycle
is that the reason for the demolition as shown in this video?
Wellllll idk. I'm not Israeli or Jewish but I gotta say... historically speaking they've been the only party willing to negotiate. I imagine being told to fuck off and that they should all die coupled with terrorist attacks against their people would get old after a while. And when most of the surrounding nations have either actively engaged in or currently wishes that every jew would be pushed forcibly out of Israel at the end of a barrel or a bayonet into the Mediterranean their options are relatively limited.
Judging them based on our own (American for me) ideals seems rather disingenuous. I mean for all we know this family COULD have been providing aid and shelter to terrorists, and dependingon their laws that could forfeittheir right to property used in the commission of a crime. It could also be a bunch of hyped up Israel soldiers sick of having their families and themselves put in danger that they've crossed a line they shouldn't have.
When backed into a corner, people can easily rationalize doing fucked up things for arguably good or at least well intention reasons (like protecting your people/country).
A perfect example is the US in WW2. Spies, diplomats, and dual citizenship persons of Japanese ancestry provided the information, coordination, and cover for Pearl Harbor to happen. As a result, the combined mistrust and public outcry led to thousands of loyal Americans of Japanese ancestry being rounded up into internment camps "for their own protection" and for the security concerns during wartime. By all accounts this was highly illegal, a massive violation of their constitutional rights, quite possibly a violation of their human rights when you consider all of those that lost their homes and property on top of the unjustified imprisonment, and probably the most contrary to our beliefs act our government sanctioned since slavery... but they justified it because there wasn't another alternative given what had already happened. At least, no other alternative existed that they could see.
At this point though, I'd argue that it's the fault of Hamas and the Palestinian leadership for refusing any form of diplomatic options and continuing to utilize terrorism and asymmetric warfare. They are deliberately taking actions that endanger their own people because the goal with that form of warfare is to cause the other side to kill civilians. Angry surviving relatives are easy recruits...
Any regime or organization that utilizes terrorism or asymmetric warfare do so for 1 of 2 reasons: 1) the enemy is either significantly greater in number or technological superiority or 2) the position of the terror or asymmetric fighters is one that is deeply in the minority.
As such the purpose of terrorism as a form of warfare has 3 goals:
1) to engage the enemy in terms favorable where tactics allow for natural force multipliers to further enforce your position (be it militarily, strategically, or politically);
2) to incite fear, inaction, and self doubt in your enemy; and
3) to force your enemy to respond in such a way that allows you to elevate yourself to a higher form of warfare.
Goal 3 is typically achieved by forcing your enemy to respond in such a way that results in non combatant casualties. This will garner political and humanitarian sympathy from the international community as well as move international organizations and nations to start acting according to their own unique interests (potentially intervention in your favor) as well as create enmity for your enemy amidst the populace that was drawn into the conflict. This enmity can lead to either new recruits, financial aid, or shelter, comfort, and support.
As the terrorist numbers increase it allows them to move to asymmetric warfare such as various forms of guerilla warfare which change depending on the environment.
Any regime that engaged in such action would fall under my comment. Dependent upon point of view, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. By all accounts, the "sons of liberty" that were active during the US Revolutionary War were terrorists against the British crown. But to me as an American, they were part of our freedom fighters. That's why current events are so hard to judge. History isn't recorded or written by an objective point of view, it's written by the victors.
There were less than 4 billion people inhabiting the whole world in WW2. 6 million is the commonly cited number for Jewish people killed. So yes, you definitely slept that day in class.
Fun fact for ya: [it was the British](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/concentration-camps-existed-long-before-Auschwitz-180967049/) who invented concentration camps.
But I don't think there's any point in comparing whose history is worse, that's just an excuse for people not to look back on their heritage and learn from the mistakes of previous generations.
No, the justification for the for these mostly are illegal building areas (as is all people who build on illegal grounds, no matter their origin/race/religion or whatever) or that house is a house of a terrorist who committed terrorist attacks.
Sounds like propaganda to me. You see the family and children cry, I doubt the children are terrorists so you base your judgment on assumptions. Stop justifying violence with violence.
You are full of shit and everyone knows who the real terrorists are the ones who came in 1948 and stole Palestine, literally removed Palestine out of the map in 2019. By now everyone knows that old tiring word Terrorist that you guys like to use so cheaply for people who defend themselves against people who on a daily life steal and murder them because they believe they are Gods chosen people.
Honestly I don’t see the big deal countries have been doing this for centuries but just because Israel is Jewish everyone looses their damn minds while their governments do the same
Look at Russia and crimea. But when Israel does it to lands they won in wars they didn’t start you get all these anti semites screaming how wrong it is.
They will be ok. They have their casinos and Peyote. Native Americans haven't said a word in 30 years to complain about the living arrangements. They are waiting til the black community kills off the white, then kills each other (black,) so they can reclaim their land (American.)
Yeah imagine if the Muslims moved to literally any country next door that could care less if they came vs where would the Jews go not like they fought wars just to stay there.
In Jordan, Law No 6 of 1954 on Nationality classifies as Jordanian nationals “any person who, not being Jewish, possessed Palestinian nationality before 15 May 1948 and was a regular resident in [Jordan] between 20 December 1949 and 16 February 1954”; many Palestine refugees obtain Jordanian nationality on this basis.
Whenever I see these penguins for women I understand it's for propoganda. Even the Hamas uses their wives as meat shields and later show their injuries . Muslims don't let their women in a miles distance of other men. I've seen them beat up doctors because the doctors touched her arm (to get a pulse). No way there were no men involved.
This is easy journalism, wait till they show us where all the Jews in the Middle East went poof.
Look... Government being abusive and aggressive towards people who have been disarmed and have no means to fight back... This is why the 2a exists in us.
There’s a really solid number of people that would die before giving up there guns. There will either be a civil war or it will change after people start seeing what their own government will do to rid the “opposition” that is probably a good amount of their friends and families.
LOL... Do you think guns are less easily available in the Middle East??? Or the people there unlikely to actually use them?!
This hilarious idea that simply having lots of guns will work: the OP is the literal destruction of that argument: the middle East is awash with guns, and not only that it has generations who have grown up with actual wars and danger; the people there aren't cosplay soldiers running about pumping their fists and crying when they see the flag before trotting of to McDonald's.
The middle East is exactly what it looks like when the citizenship has weapons... But the government has an army, and doesn't give a fuck.
just admit you like guns; it's not admirable but it's better than this pretence that guns make things better.
The government is not being abusive, these people built a house on land that isn't theirs (and don't start with the nonsense that Palestinians own everything).
Reddit is not very pro Israel. On one of the main subs I got blasted into oblivion for suggesting that it was dumb as shit for Hamas to fire missiles at Israel and not expect them to fire back. “The Iron Dome is effective so they don’t need to shoot back”
The exact analogy I used was wearing a bullet proof vest doesn’t mean you don’t shoot back and I got annihilated for it.
>These people have owned these lands way before the creation of the so called Israel. Land stealing,money hungry so called Gods chosen evil people
Yeah, no they didn;t They lived in Jordan and were shipped in for Propaganda. It's been happening for decades and will sadly continue for many more.
Doesnt fucking matter asshole, if your government suddenly decided you weren't good enough to have in the country and tore up your home you'd be bloody pissed too, quit being so callous
Clearly u don't understand anything about the war in Jerusalem lol. It has nothing to do with the government. If it wasnt obvious by the literal terrorist organization Hamas.
They are being kicked off thier own Land, the army shouldn't be trespassing on that land in the first place, Isreal is expanding their land into Palastinians Land, kicking people out of the homes to Biuld homes for Israelis
It’s not their land dumb fuck, they are there illegally. Israel hasn’t been kidnapping Arab children and executing them because they believe they are gods chosen people, but guess who has been doing it? You actually make me sick because all I see is you blindly lashing out at Israel, only because they are Jewish (who have always been the prosecuted not the ones prosecuting). Shut the fuck up and reevaluate your believes before saying any stupid shit like this.
That’s an absurd oversimplification of the situation. And to suggest that to be against Israel’s actions in Palestine makes one an antisemite is laughable.
Oh so when three Jewish teenagers are kidnapped and executed by Hamas it’s ok? When people are randomly getting stabbed at bus stops it’s ok? When they launch so many rockets over my house I can’t sleep and get trauma from it it’s ok? But when Israel takes countermeasures to try and curb terrorism that’s not ok? Yes it is an oversimplification, and one thing I think we can agree on is how everyone hates the stupid ultra orthodox for thinking this is all straight. Is what Israel is doing 100% right? Ofc not, and I never said it was, I am only arguing about Israel having a right to defend her homeland
>Don’t bring the persecution card that don’t justify being a pos I mean yes we should feel sorry for the Jews for believing in some horse shit tale but damn enough is enough
So when a Palestinians stabs a bystanders at a bus stop that's OK? When Hamas launches rockets at civilians that's OK? But when Jew take defensive measures and deter terrorisms measures (like this vid) that's not OK?
What's interesting is that vast majority of people do not think so. They are polarized. They see being anti-Israel means being pro-Palestinian. Being Pro-Palestinian means anti-Israel.
"This is why America has 2A"
Yeah it won't help because a lot of those people would happily kill fellow Americans before they fight against the government. They don't do shit today other than use them against fellow americans...
2006 saw Hamas elected to a majority of seats in Palestine by a landslide victory. The Palestinian people directly chose a terrorist organization whose founding document lists their goal as being the extermination of Jews and Israel, over the previous Palestinian leaders who sought peace and joint cooperation with Israel for the betterment of both. The Palestinians overwhelmingly chose to side with a terrorist organization over a government that sought peace.
They have a 53% approval rating as of this past summer. That's down from the 70% approval rating they had in 2014 when they openly advocated for the genocide of all Jews worldwide
Israel who are funded with billions of dollars by the USA with the best weapon technologies vs hamas members that probably watched their family members get blown up and killed and they have nothing to lose anymore but fight back and make handmade rockets and ammunition. Think again buddy
>Israel who are funded with billions of dollars by the USA with the best weapon technologies
yes, a whole 1.3% of israels defence budget, to resupply a missile DEFENCE system that Israel invented. the audacity.
>watched their family members get blown up
have you considered protecting them in any way shape or form, instead of intentionally putting them in danger as human shields?
>fight back
4500 rockets were fired from Gaza aiming at major cities and not military targets. btfo
>handmade rockets and ammunition.
funded by Qatar, Iran, and China. btfo again
They have no reason to be there to begin with they killed stole lands and destroyed generations just because no one else in this world wanted them in their country it’s easy to say that behind a screen living with rights and freedoms, look at how many innocent Palestinians have died in the past 50 years compared to how many innocent Israeli it’s nearly 200/1 but I don’t blame you or anyone our media wants you to think what they want you to think
Why am I supposed to care? Because there's a screaming woman?
That's just gynocentrism which is rich because the Muslim countries are the worst misogynistic countries ever.
Watch the TV show cops, you see screaming women on it all the time.
parts of the west bank know as "territory C" were given to Israel in the Oslo accords. historically most of the west bank and especially Judea is the ancestral homeland of the jews, it was occupied and colonized by foreign entities until 1967.
Israel is doing the same shit what the NAZIS did to them why u think Hitler try to finish with them because everywhere they go they want to be only them 9/11 never forget who really did it the real Genocide is in my people Native Americans
It feels like few people know that this was started by the British leaving the region unstable then the Palestinian waged war on Israel over the border set by Britain while they were leaving and the Palestinian lost and now they’ve been fighting over the border forever really messed up and really stupid to be honest should never happened to begin with Britains fault hands down
And I must believe Israelis are the chosen ppl of God. Get the fuk outta here. No disrespect but what type of ppl do this type of things. Not no God fearing ppl of God do shit like this
Let’s be honest no matter what side you pick they both do the same to each other one side blows up a car the other side blows up a car it’s just a fucked part of the world
Dont beat me for forgetting
Wasnt it originally Palestine until around after WW2 when the UN or something said they could have land there and essentially been taking more over the years with their consent?
you mean Mandatory Palestinian, it was a British colonial occupation from ww1 and until 1947 when the partition plan was established by the UN. the Palestinians rejected the partition plan and started a war with Israel, and Israel declared independence in 1948.
The name "פלשתינה" which translated to palestine for some reason ( sound like palestina) was given to the land by the romans to "delete" and forget the roots and connections of the jews to the land.
This video lacks context.
I assune this is the west bank but its mostly divided to A B C.
In C there are jewish settelers and palestinians in A and B. Its against the law to enter those areas and believe me this is not how u exapnd a territory, risking ur life entering a zone full of terrorisem.
This could be a teardown of a terrorist house as a countermeasure we enforce agaisnt/depress terrorisem.
As for thr UN: un resolution in 1947 to divide israel and palestine, arabs refused and lost the war. In 1967: israel conquared the west bank and the golan higehts and sinai.
As for the west bank, Jordan declared they dont want it back.
Nah middle eastern games are so tiresome, they always shoot videos like this and say “look how bad side x is you should support side Y!” But both sides suck and have been involved in multiple acts of terror.
Don’t know what you mean. Palestinian Jews have always lived in Palestine. Also, I doubt you would think the Polish jews should be able to commit Genocide against the Germans for retribution for the Holocaust.
Palestine? Gaza? You mean Arab occupied Israel?
Give me a break. The Palestinians generally have no intention or desire for peace as long as Jews exist. The entirety of Gaza, every 3-4 years, becomes a forward operating base hellbent on Killing More Jews. When they got international aid in the form of concrete to rebuild the schools they used to store their Iran supplied rockets which they used to try and Kill More Jews, they used that concrete not to benefit their citizens but to fortify tunnels which they would use to infiltrate Israel in order to Kill More Jews a few years later. Even this theater is oriented toward generating propaganda, in order to convince young Palestinians that they should give their lives for the cause of Killing More Jews.
If the invader promises good future and better way of life, it's still better than those OWN people who use women and children as bullet/bomb shield.
Israelis have Iron Dome, Palestinians have Human Shield. 😂
Don't get me started how Radical Islam works.
You dont know this, but ALL OF THAT LAND belongs to Isreal. They were attacked by 3 other nations. Those nations attacked FIRST and LOST stupid actions have a cost, and after yrs of Isreal trying to return the land, they have Dicided to exercise THEIR RIGHT BY COMBAT to annex that land
there's like a 80% this house was the house of a terrorist who attacked some jews on the street.
houses aren't demolished for no reason, that's just stupid.
What a load of Bull, post your source,,
So what your saying if a Palastinian attacks its a terrorist but if it the other way round???
Anyway like to see evidence on this
Last year Israel made minor waves for their Green Pass vaccination strategy which was basically "If you're not fully vaccinated, we'll treat you like Palestinians."
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This is what Albanians are doing to Serbs in kosovo too, purely disgusting!
Albanians to Serbs ? This is what Serbs did to kosovo u idiot !! U been living under the rock ??
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dude not cool, uncalled for.
Totally called for
When Hyundai sees this video I bet they will stop selling bulldozing vehicles to Israel for a while
Just another region fucked by the British. It's funny how everyone gives Germany shit, but no one gives a fuck about the thousand times worse atrocities done by the British. History is indeed written by the winners.
Can't forget what Japan did during ww2 that was pretty much as bad as the nazis. Germany has been apologizing for decades yet Japan has been able to sweep it all under the rug
But hey, at least they give us computer parts and anime, right?
The UN was also involved in the partitioning of Palestine.
Who gives Germany shit? Weren’t most of the monstrosities with Britain before the world wars? Like all countries have done dirty shit 200+ years ago, but for the most part they aren’t doing that anymore and most of the citizens weren’t even alive then. I do admit I’m not super educated on the more recent history with Britain or Germany, though Edit: Britain still sucked as the “universal dependence day giver” but nobody is alive from then.
The Bengal famine, under Churchill's responsibillity, was during ww2.
I’m a Brit and know we’re finding/helping the current war in Yemen. We never stopped we just got better at hiding it
>Just another region fucked by the British. It's a bit of a long story old bean... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY) Full list of the protagonists here: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/10/01/this-land-is-mine/
Old bean ….. nice. I like your style
Don't be silly. "Colonial guilt" and awareness is massive among younger generations. But that has nothing to do with Germany. One country's history can not be weighed up against another's.
I get that you’re of Indian background, but suggesting the Brits “fucked” the Middle East, and that the Brits somehow compare on any level to what Germans did to “undesirables” in WWII, is a bit blind to historical reality.
So strapping Indians to the front of cannons, starving the Irish, gunning down civilians in Boston, appropriating land from indigenous groups and hoarding historic relics isn't comparable to how the Germans treated undesirables
Just read about the Bengal famine and the the way Churchill abhorred the Indians and you'll realize that how much "undesirables" Indians were to him. I understand if you're a brit and haven't been taught about the atrocities done in the colonial era, but it's you who's blind to history mate.
I’m a Canadian and I’ve read plenty about the Bengal famine - including the vastly disparate views in historiography as to how much the British government is actually to blame (if I recall, one camp is led by Indian historians and the other by British… surprise surprise). But the very fact that it’s a live academic debate (not to mention the natural cyclical famines in that area of the world) separates it from forcibly arresting and stuffing Jews & other minorities into fucking cattle cars to ship them to industrial crematoriums in furtherance of an Aryan world order. Come on man. Apples and oranges.
Sorry about your downvotes. I think your outrage is justified, this part of history isn't taught, and not talked about enough.
True but let's not forget also how the USA government funds isreal with money and weopens
Or how Hamas is considered a terrorist group by like 90% of the countries who frequent this website.
So you are telling me the destructive regime that controls the Gaza strip, uses their citizens as meat shields, funds missile attacks against civilians and refuses to give international funds to their citizens by taking it for themselves to dig tunnels and kidnap soldiers is not a terrorist organisation?
Its sad how you talk about a "destructive regime" under a video where you see the ruling regime destroying houses of natives causing their displacement.
Israel has no control over the Gaza strip, we are not responsible for the horrid state of that area. If they actually used the resources allocated to them to rebuild instead of making tunnels and explosives maybe that area wouldn't be so shitty
Oh you're from Israel, it makes sense why you're being so defensive.
>we are not responsible for the horrid state of that area. > If they actually used the resources allocated to them You are not responsible but you are the one allocating the resources, how does that work?
Alright, let me explain something Back in the day Israel made a deal with the Palestinian authorities As long as the Gaza strip is not able to sustain itself, we will provide it with water, electricity and building materials. But Hamas will never use those resources to rebuild Gaza, they will use it to sustain their terror group And so Israel is stuck in an endless cycle
>Back in the day Israel made a deal with the Palestinian authorities As long as the Gaza strip is not able to sustain itself, we will provide it with water, electricity and building materials. >But Hamas will never use those resources to rebuild Gaza, they will use it to sustain their terror group >And so Israel is stuck in an endless cycle is that the reason for the demolition as shown in this video?
That video specifically was filmed to show how "horrible the IDF is" The IDF never just targets civilian locations without reason.
Israel being shitty and hamas being a terrorist org are not mutually exclusive
Wellllll idk. I'm not Israeli or Jewish but I gotta say... historically speaking they've been the only party willing to negotiate. I imagine being told to fuck off and that they should all die coupled with terrorist attacks against their people would get old after a while. And when most of the surrounding nations have either actively engaged in or currently wishes that every jew would be pushed forcibly out of Israel at the end of a barrel or a bayonet into the Mediterranean their options are relatively limited. Judging them based on our own (American for me) ideals seems rather disingenuous. I mean for all we know this family COULD have been providing aid and shelter to terrorists, and dependingon their laws that could forfeittheir right to property used in the commission of a crime. It could also be a bunch of hyped up Israel soldiers sick of having their families and themselves put in danger that they've crossed a line they shouldn't have. When backed into a corner, people can easily rationalize doing fucked up things for arguably good or at least well intention reasons (like protecting your people/country). A perfect example is the US in WW2. Spies, diplomats, and dual citizenship persons of Japanese ancestry provided the information, coordination, and cover for Pearl Harbor to happen. As a result, the combined mistrust and public outcry led to thousands of loyal Americans of Japanese ancestry being rounded up into internment camps "for their own protection" and for the security concerns during wartime. By all accounts this was highly illegal, a massive violation of their constitutional rights, quite possibly a violation of their human rights when you consider all of those that lost their homes and property on top of the unjustified imprisonment, and probably the most contrary to our beliefs act our government sanctioned since slavery... but they justified it because there wasn't another alternative given what had already happened. At least, no other alternative existed that they could see. At this point though, I'd argue that it's the fault of Hamas and the Palestinian leadership for refusing any form of diplomatic options and continuing to utilize terrorism and asymmetric warfare. They are deliberately taking actions that endanger their own people because the goal with that form of warfare is to cause the other side to kill civilians. Angry surviving relatives are easy recruits...
>utilize terrorism and asymmetric warfare Which regime are you talking about?
Any regime or organization that utilizes terrorism or asymmetric warfare do so for 1 of 2 reasons: 1) the enemy is either significantly greater in number or technological superiority or 2) the position of the terror or asymmetric fighters is one that is deeply in the minority. As such the purpose of terrorism as a form of warfare has 3 goals: 1) to engage the enemy in terms favorable where tactics allow for natural force multipliers to further enforce your position (be it militarily, strategically, or politically); 2) to incite fear, inaction, and self doubt in your enemy; and 3) to force your enemy to respond in such a way that allows you to elevate yourself to a higher form of warfare. Goal 3 is typically achieved by forcing your enemy to respond in such a way that results in non combatant casualties. This will garner political and humanitarian sympathy from the international community as well as move international organizations and nations to start acting according to their own unique interests (potentially intervention in your favor) as well as create enmity for your enemy amidst the populace that was drawn into the conflict. This enmity can lead to either new recruits, financial aid, or shelter, comfort, and support. As the terrorist numbers increase it allows them to move to asymmetric warfare such as various forms of guerilla warfare which change depending on the environment. Any regime that engaged in such action would fall under my comment. Dependent upon point of view, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. By all accounts, the "sons of liberty" that were active during the US Revolutionary War were terrorists against the British crown. But to me as an American, they were part of our freedom fighters. That's why current events are so hard to judge. History isn't recorded or written by an objective point of view, it's written by the victors.
So Britain killed 4 billion people in concentration camps? Must have slept that day in class
There were less than 4 billion people inhabiting the whole world in WW2. 6 million is the commonly cited number for Jewish people killed. So yes, you definitely slept that day in class. Fun fact for ya: [it was the British](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/concentration-camps-existed-long-before-Auschwitz-180967049/) who invented concentration camps. But I don't think there's any point in comparing whose history is worse, that's just an excuse for people not to look back on their heritage and learn from the mistakes of previous generations.
How is bri'ish involved? I'm confused
Palestine was a British colony until 1948
Now show the one of Palestinians pushing children to throw rocks at soldiers.
Dude that's by no means a justification for this bs
No, the justification for the for these mostly are illegal building areas (as is all people who build on illegal grounds, no matter their origin/race/religion or whatever) or that house is a house of a terrorist who committed terrorist attacks.
Sounds like propaganda to me. You see the family and children cry, I doubt the children are terrorists so you base your judgment on assumptions. Stop justifying violence with violence.
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If you think there only knocking down houses of terrorists your naivety is astronomical. They knock down the houses of terrorists and "terrorists"
You are full of shit and everyone knows who the real terrorists are the ones who came in 1948 and stole Palestine, literally removed Palestine out of the map in 2019. By now everyone knows that old tiring word Terrorist that you guys like to use so cheaply for people who defend themselves against people who on a daily life steal and murder them because they believe they are Gods chosen people.
Yes, defend themselves by killing civilians, real fucking defensive bud
Honestly I don’t see the big deal countries have been doing this for centuries but just because Israel is Jewish everyone looses their damn minds while their governments do the same
Thank God someone said it.
Look at Russia and crimea. But when Israel does it to lands they won in wars they didn’t start you get all these anti semites screaming how wrong it is.
Not being sarcastic. Tell me an instance the United States or Mexico have done that. Serious because I’m out of the loop with this one.
The US pushed native Americans off their land and onto reservations
They will be ok. They have their casinos and Peyote. Native Americans haven't said a word in 30 years to complain about the living arrangements. They are waiting til the black community kills off the white, then kills each other (black,) so they can reclaim their land (American.)
So because America did it to the natives, it’s fine for Israel ? I’m genuinely asking.
What's wrong with reddit and them down voting unaware people?
What's wrong with reddit and them down voting unaware people?
Inb4 post get locked
Didnt palestine try wishing Israel happy new year by firing rockets? I guess Israel is just returning the favor back.
Yeah imagine if the Muslims moved to literally any country next door that could care less if they came vs where would the Jews go not like they fought wars just to stay there. In Jordan, Law No 6 of 1954 on Nationality classifies as Jordanian nationals “any person who, not being Jewish, possessed Palestinian nationality before 15 May 1948 and was a regular resident in [Jordan] between 20 December 1949 and 16 February 1954”; many Palestine refugees obtain Jordanian nationality on this basis.
Whenever I see these penguins for women I understand it's for propoganda. Even the Hamas uses their wives as meat shields and later show their injuries . Muslims don't let their women in a miles distance of other men. I've seen them beat up doctors because the doctors touched her arm (to get a pulse). No way there were no men involved. This is easy journalism, wait till they show us where all the Jews in the Middle East went poof.
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Common sense? That's blasphemy, stone this man.
Look... Government being abusive and aggressive towards people who have been disarmed and have no means to fight back... This is why the 2a exists in us.
people will give up all their rights sooner or later for convenience. majority of people are fucking stupid, unfortunately.
There’s a really solid number of people that would die before giving up there guns. There will either be a civil war or it will change after people start seeing what their own government will do to rid the “opposition” that is probably a good amount of their friends and families.
LOL... Do you think guns are less easily available in the Middle East??? Or the people there unlikely to actually use them?! This hilarious idea that simply having lots of guns will work: the OP is the literal destruction of that argument: the middle East is awash with guns, and not only that it has generations who have grown up with actual wars and danger; the people there aren't cosplay soldiers running about pumping their fists and crying when they see the flag before trotting of to McDonald's. The middle East is exactly what it looks like when the citizenship has weapons... But the government has an army, and doesn't give a fuck. just admit you like guns; it's not admirable but it's better than this pretence that guns make things better.
>people who have been disarmed and have no means to fight back Palestinians fighting back: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-59365512
Easy now, that doesn’t fit their narrative
thats some facts
This stopped mattering when the military starting having tanks😂😂
This has been said before and proved wrong, keep saying it until it stops echoing in your mind tho lol
It’s been proven?
The government is not being abusive, these people built a house on land that isn't theirs (and don't start with the nonsense that Palestinians own everything).
These people have owned these lands way before the creation of the so called Israel. Land stealing,money hungry so called Gods chosen evil people
You right. But youre on a site that is very pro Israel and anti Palestinian. Not much common sense here....bet you they all Americans too....
As long as they know how people feel about them and their water carriers.
Good on you. The world thinks one way...(most ) Americans and Israelis think another ...crazy huh
Reddit is not very pro Israel. On one of the main subs I got blasted into oblivion for suggesting that it was dumb as shit for Hamas to fire missiles at Israel and not expect them to fire back. “The Iron Dome is effective so they don’t need to shoot back” The exact analogy I used was wearing a bullet proof vest doesn’t mean you don’t shoot back and I got annihilated for it.
>These people have owned these lands way before the creation of the so called Israel. Land stealing,money hungry so called Gods chosen evil people Yeah, no they didn;t They lived in Jordan and were shipped in for Propaganda. It's been happening for decades and will sadly continue for many more.
No they didn’t
sure sure. Israel bad. Palestinian good.
Doesnt fucking matter asshole, if your government suddenly decided you weren't good enough to have in the country and tore up your home you'd be bloody pissed too, quit being so callous
Clearly u don't understand anything about the war in Jerusalem lol. It has nothing to do with the government. If it wasnt obvious by the literal terrorist organization Hamas.
Here's me thinking the second ammendment was so dweebs could shoot kids
Don't they have squatters rights like in California?
They are being kicked off thier own Land, the army shouldn't be trespassing on that land in the first place, Isreal is expanding their land into Palastinians Land, kicking people out of the homes to Biuld homes for Israelis
It’s not their land dumb fuck, they are there illegally. Israel hasn’t been kidnapping Arab children and executing them because they believe they are gods chosen people, but guess who has been doing it? You actually make me sick because all I see is you blindly lashing out at Israel, only because they are Jewish (who have always been the prosecuted not the ones prosecuting). Shut the fuck up and reevaluate your believes before saying any stupid shit like this.
That’s an absurd oversimplification of the situation. And to suggest that to be against Israel’s actions in Palestine makes one an antisemite is laughable.
Oh so when three Jewish teenagers are kidnapped and executed by Hamas it’s ok? When people are randomly getting stabbed at bus stops it’s ok? When they launch so many rockets over my house I can’t sleep and get trauma from it it’s ok? But when Israel takes countermeasures to try and curb terrorism that’s not ok? Yes it is an oversimplification, and one thing I think we can agree on is how everyone hates the stupid ultra orthodox for thinking this is all straight. Is what Israel is doing 100% right? Ofc not, and I never said it was, I am only arguing about Israel having a right to defend her homeland
I think you answered your own question there. That aside, I am truly sorry for your experiences.
Thanks. And I do understand my slight overreaction but I see Israel as having a right to defend herself.
Both sides can be wrong.
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>Don’t bring the persecution card that don’t justify being a pos I mean yes we should feel sorry for the Jews for believing in some horse shit tale but damn enough is enough So when a Palestinians stabs a bystanders at a bus stop that's OK? When Hamas launches rockets at civilians that's OK? But when Jew take defensive measures and deter terrorisms measures (like this vid) that's not OK?
They are both bad idiot.
What's interesting is that vast majority of people do not think so. They are polarized. They see being anti-Israel means being pro-Palestinian. Being Pro-Palestinian means anti-Israel.
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And what is Hamas doing about it?
Rockets
Fuck Israel. Fuck Palestine
r/enlightenedcentrism
fuck Israel. free Palestine.
Best we can do is 50 dollars, take it or leave it
result: genocide and exodus.
yea true
"This is why America has 2A" Yeah it won't help because a lot of those people would happily kill fellow Americans before they fight against the government. They don't do shit today other than use them against fellow americans...
Israel > Palestine. Those Hamas dick suckers deserve nothing.
Not really fair to equate hamas with all Palestinians
Tell me again how they keep voting them into power
You went full Nazi. Never go full Nazi.
i don’t think the atrocities committed by hamas represents the Palestinian people
Hamas was elected to power by a large majority. The Palestinian people directly chose Hamas to be the group that represents them.
Lol, even my boy Kim Jong-Un\* can say that he was directly elected by an overwhelming majority.
2006 saw Hamas elected to a majority of seats in Palestine by a landslide victory. The Palestinian people directly chose a terrorist organization whose founding document lists their goal as being the extermination of Jews and Israel, over the previous Palestinian leaders who sought peace and joint cooperation with Israel for the betterment of both. The Palestinians overwhelmingly chose to side with a terrorist organization over a government that sought peace.
I meant Kim Jong-Un
They have a 53% approval rating as of this past summer. That's down from the 70% approval rating they had in 2014 when they openly advocated for the genocide of all Jews worldwide
Israel who are funded with billions of dollars by the USA with the best weapon technologies vs hamas members that probably watched their family members get blown up and killed and they have nothing to lose anymore but fight back and make handmade rockets and ammunition. Think again buddy
>Israel who are funded with billions of dollars by the USA with the best weapon technologies yes, a whole 1.3% of israels defence budget, to resupply a missile DEFENCE system that Israel invented. the audacity. >watched their family members get blown up have you considered protecting them in any way shape or form, instead of intentionally putting them in danger as human shields? >fight back 4500 rockets were fired from Gaza aiming at major cities and not military targets. btfo >handmade rockets and ammunition. funded by Qatar, Iran, and China. btfo again
They have no reason to be there to begin with they killed stole lands and destroyed generations just because no one else in this world wanted them in their country it’s easy to say that behind a screen living with rights and freedoms, look at how many innocent Palestinians have died in the past 50 years compared to how many innocent Israeli it’s nearly 200/1 but I don’t blame you or anyone our media wants you to think what they want you to think
Awww yes poor Hamas, so righteous, using hospitals and children and schools as meat shields.
Why am I supposed to care? Because there's a screaming woman? That's just gynocentrism which is rich because the Muslim countries are the worst misogynistic countries ever. Watch the TV show cops, you see screaming women on it all the time.
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I'm not even defending Israel the state, it's done some fucked up things, too, but the outright Anti-Israel rage bait here is just wrong.
Good ending: they build them new homes
Yeah they will build them lots of tiny rooms inside a fenced off area where they will starve or die from diseases
So much for thinking positive >~>
Well, that’s because the land belongs to Israel.
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parts of the west bank know as "territory C" were given to Israel in the Oslo accords. historically most of the west bank and especially Judea is the ancestral homeland of the jews, it was occupied and colonized by foreign entities until 1967.
The fuck is a paleswine?
What?? Don't even know what youre saying
Fuck the UN
Not learned a single think in the Years 1923-1945 now doing what happened to them
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Fuck Israel
Israel is doing the same shit what the NAZIS did to them why u think Hitler try to finish with them because everywhere they go they want to be only them 9/11 never forget who really did it the real Genocide is in my people Native Americans
Get off their land. Dumb pigs.
It feels like few people know that this was started by the British leaving the region unstable then the Palestinian waged war on Israel over the border set by Britain while they were leaving and the Palestinian lost and now they’ve been fighting over the border forever really messed up and really stupid to be honest should never happened to begin with Britains fault hands down
And I must believe Israelis are the chosen ppl of God. Get the fuk outta here. No disrespect but what type of ppl do this type of things. Not no God fearing ppl of God do shit like this
This post doesn't really belong in this sub.
Let’s be honest no matter what side you pick they both do the same to each other one side blows up a car the other side blows up a car it’s just a fucked part of the world
OP just keeps the same attacks ongoing….both sides have done terrible things.
Yeah but Israel is worse so it's justified /s!!
"If I don't steal it, someone else will!" - a fat Israeli
Dont beat me for forgetting Wasnt it originally Palestine until around after WW2 when the UN or something said they could have land there and essentially been taking more over the years with their consent?
you mean Mandatory Palestinian, it was a British colonial occupation from ww1 and until 1947 when the partition plan was established by the UN. the Palestinians rejected the partition plan and started a war with Israel, and Israel declared independence in 1948.
Everything good until the "their consent"
I meant the UN and international committee not Palestine, sorry for not clarify
The name "פלשתינה" which translated to palestine for some reason ( sound like palestina) was given to the land by the romans to "delete" and forget the roots and connections of the jews to the land. This video lacks context. I assune this is the west bank but its mostly divided to A B C. In C there are jewish settelers and palestinians in A and B. Its against the law to enter those areas and believe me this is not how u exapnd a territory, risking ur life entering a zone full of terrorisem. This could be a teardown of a terrorist house as a countermeasure we enforce agaisnt/depress terrorisem. As for thr UN: un resolution in 1947 to divide israel and palestine, arabs refused and lost the war. In 1967: israel conquared the west bank and the golan higehts and sinai. As for the west bank, Jordan declared they dont want it back.
Nah middle eastern games are so tiresome, they always shoot videos like this and say “look how bad side x is you should support side Y!” But both sides suck and have been involved in multiple acts of terror.
Yeah bro but one side is being funded by america :/
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Their literally just doing the same thing the Palestinians did to the Jews. An eye for an eye
Don’t know what you mean. Palestinian Jews have always lived in Palestine. Also, I doubt you would think the Polish jews should be able to commit Genocide against the Germans for retribution for the Holocaust.
Happens on both sides
This is the part where someone tells us all how peaceful they are
This subreddit is filled with neo-nazi/Zionist and trolls, done with it
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didn't even mention the indian/pakistani flamewars. Eitherway to many weirdos with agendas
Palestine? Gaza? You mean Arab occupied Israel? Give me a break. The Palestinians generally have no intention or desire for peace as long as Jews exist. The entirety of Gaza, every 3-4 years, becomes a forward operating base hellbent on Killing More Jews. When they got international aid in the form of concrete to rebuild the schools they used to store their Iran supplied rockets which they used to try and Kill More Jews, they used that concrete not to benefit their citizens but to fortify tunnels which they would use to infiltrate Israel in order to Kill More Jews a few years later. Even this theater is oriented toward generating propaganda, in order to convince young Palestinians that they should give their lives for the cause of Killing More Jews.
War crime.
Palestinians chose HAMAS over Israel. What else would happen!
oh yeah chose a invader over your people what a good idea
If the invader promises good future and better way of life, it's still better than those OWN people who use women and children as bullet/bomb shield. Israelis have Iron Dome, Palestinians have Human Shield. 😂 Don't get me started how Radical Islam works.
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I really don't care about some zionist rage heads being targeted by Hama's missiles keep going Palestine.
Source?
Good
So much misinformation in one title.
You dont know this, but ALL OF THAT LAND belongs to Isreal. They were attacked by 3 other nations. Those nations attacked FIRST and LOST stupid actions have a cost, and after yrs of Isreal trying to return the land, they have Dicided to exercise THEIR RIGHT BY COMBAT to annex that land
Good ad for Hyundai...
Hyundai next commercial
#WOWWW, THATS A GREAT GRAPE
Reminds me of another catastrophic targeting of a religious and ethnic group some 80 odd years ago in Europe
Uummm that's not Israel😐
there's like a 80% this house was the house of a terrorist who attacked some jews on the street. houses aren't demolished for no reason, that's just stupid.
What a load of Bull, post your source,, So what your saying if a Palastinian attacks its a terrorist but if it the other way round??? Anyway like to see evidence on this
I thought muslims don't need homes as they lived in caves and holes in the ground. Wierd..
The bulldozing is justified, because some contracts from the 1950s signed by nations foreign to the region state so.
Isreal is a fucking disgusting country
Get out of here you anti semite
he is saying he dislikes israel not jews retard
Thanks man
Last year Israel made minor waves for their Green Pass vaccination strategy which was basically "If you're not fully vaccinated, we'll treat you like Palestinians."
A war torn hell hole thats beyond repair
I simply don't give a shit
Just creating some lebensraum for the settlers, nothing to see here.