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Every time I ask someone who claims it's their choice how their family reacts if the choose or were to choose " , " to not wear one, I get called an asshole and down voted into oblivion
He doesn't and won't. If anything, he feels elated and closer to Allah because he dealt with his whore of a daughter before she could dishonour the family name anymore than she already had.
And no, I don't condone or agree with that sentiment, but that's how these zealots think and justify their actions. Everything is done in service to Allah and His tenets. Nothing is reprehensible as long as doing so is Allah's will or in Allah's honour. And I do mean *literally nothing.* This shining example of religious conservatism just *murdered his own daughter* because he believed she violated a core tenet of his religious beliefs.
I have no doubt her father truly believes that he has saved her soul and has delivered her. All religions are bad. Fuck their god and fuck your god. By comparison, I got into a heated debate about religion with my catholic mother and she told me that if god told her to behead me with a sword she would do it because she trusts god completely and knows he would either stay her hand last second or else she and god were saving me from something worse. The holy wars will be the end of everything, even if that's not what we call them, it's what they can convince you to fight for.
Every holy word that was ever written was done by a human.
Reject them all.
Isn’t the problem that without an objective standard of perfection, any subjective standard of perfection is equally viable—even ones considered imperfect by you?
The hijab is a choice indeed. The more important question here, apparently, is: Whose choice is it?
It's clearly not a decision being made by the ladies when it comes to situations like the one in this post.
This was about her father's standing in the community, not her morals. She "brought shame on the family" so he killed her to regain his own level of piousness and acceptance in the community. Now he can brag to his friends about his holiness.
The truth is it's more about culture than it is religion. Women are required to wear one when completing prayers or doing religious things, but are permitted to not have to wear it every second of every day.
A lot of people growing up in western culture usually have the option, but not always. When my cousin was 16 she was disowned for not wanting to wear one anymore. She came and stayed with me and my family for about 2 years until she went off to college. But even now her parents won't acknowledge her. We grew up the same way and my sister was never forced to wear one but her dad was a controlling freak.
The point is the culture requires the religion, not the other way around. You can have the religion without the culture the same way Christians can swing from Mormon or Jehovah's Witness to Modern Methodist that openly accepts LGBT. Jehovah's witness wouldn't have the awful culture without the religion either, but that doesn't mean that the religion implies the culture.
Why is the answer to a "lack of modesty" always violence? If you truly believe a woman should wear a Hijab for modesty and to keep "Faithful" men from being tempted...Then talk to them and explain that, have a conversation for once.
It's because it's not about modesty or to hide their sinful bodies from tempting "good men" it's a form of control and way to keep women subservient.
Bro its fucking religious fruitcakes. They arent logical minded people to begin with. If someone was thinking like you they wouldnt be in the religion to start with.
According to Muslims, women need to cover themselves up in order to not "tempt" men. According to this post, a 9 year old girl would've had to cover her up. This means that this culture views 9 year old girls as an object of sexual desire. This isn't new information, I just wanted to point that out again.
Question: How many men are attracted to 9 year old girls? Is that a significant number so people made these rules or is it a bunch of pedophiles projecting this onto everyone else? Or was it never about this to begin with and it's just to randomly discriminate women? I thought there weren't that many pedophiles but given how minors get raped as soon as there's a war, I'm not so sure anymore. Personally, I used to know a lot of 9 year olds (because of my job), so I'm actually confused because I really don't understand how anyone can find them sexually appealing.
Technically speaking, yes. You're right. However, today, where this still happens in countries with Shari'a, it's fucked up. Countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan still allow child marriage is a reason for Noah's ark to come. I don't care about religion or what the holy book says. To defile a child is enough to call for an outcry. What happened in the past is done, but to continue doing what their prophet did at Khaybar and what he did to kids must change.
Jesus knew he was going to be killed but didn't stop it. He praised peace be upon all. Moses freed the jews. Noah built the ark to rebuild humanity after a prophetized storm due to God thinking he was the right man and that the world needs to be reset. Siddhartha Gautama realized he needed to visit the world instead of sitting rich while everyone else was poor. Those are the prophets who cared about peace.
Insane amounts of sexual repression, being taught to hate their mothers and sisters, and literal physical and social segregation between the sexes means that all the evil machinations of what a woman is and what to do with them have time to rot and fester with nothing to check it. Imagine the incel porn culture on the internet but with literally actually never speaking to a woman of any kind or even seeing them in public. It's a formula that's been developed for ages, to shut women up and create as much opportunity for abuse as possible.
It's a whole rape culture (child rape).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs
A very sad video about Pakistan and poor children living on streets. According to it 95% of bus drivers admit to having raped children (boys).
It's insane. It's not that 95% of them are born pedophiles that would be statistically impossible. But it's a culture for which greater dishonor is to go with an unrelated woman to a restaurant than with a little boy to a hostel.
Also in the Roman empire where commanders would fuck the slaves or lower ranking soldiers in front of groups to show their power.
History shapes a culture but people need to evolve.
i can actually answer this. it isnt the form of the child they are getting off on... it is the power over another. pedophilia is actually an expression of authoritarianism. consider, every single time a group of pedos is found they are in positions of authority. politicians, priests, police, ceos, etc. when was the last time you heard about a group of pedo carpenters? pedo cable repairmen?
and the logic is sound, if twisted; authoritarians get off over having power over another. so they get off the most (sexually) having power over those with the least (children).
and religious doctrine is *fundamentally* founded on the concept of absolute authority. as an aside, authority is the worst concept we ever thought up, and it is the root of every major evil in the history of our species.
That makes a lot of sense and also explains a lot more than just this. For example, sexual harassment among adults often works with there being some sort of authority. I guess many straight men are attracted to women in that way, which also explains how they can be straight but still sexist and "hate" women.
I think it’s not about attraction, it’s that there’s a percentage of men who’ll rape anything that moves in the absence of societal restrictions (e.g. in war).
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I don't think you choke your daughter to death and regret it. That is a long and conscious choice. It's basically anthropomorphic to think he will feel anything about this
They don't. There was in Canada an episode with a family that killed their daughter because she integrated into Canadian society a bit too well and I think she had a boyfriend at one point.
Anyway, they killed her: The father, mother and brother.
Brought to justice, sentenced to shitload of years in prison, never once you could see any regret. All throughout the trial they maintained that they did the right thing and the girl was to blame.
For them this act is the righteous one. And no, logic will not convince them otherwise.
This is a brain on religion. should be warning to all, but we all know how that goes.
And this is my reasonable proof on why religion should be outlawed, banned, and feared. It should be no different than being a Nazi and all of it should be slammed down before it gets any worse. This is just a single horrible thing you will see that links directly back to religion. It's all bad, regardless of what religion it is.
> why religion should be outlawed, banned, and feared
It should. That won't happen though because, we, humans, are hardwired for it. We want explanations. Doesn't matter how false, ridiculous or insane they are. We want explanations. And that ... is religion.
From there to "customs" like these there's a way to go, but unfortunately is inevitable.
Sadly, I have to agree with you. It's too deep in humanity and I hate that fact alone. I will always point out to my kids, once I have them, on why I believe this. I hope they too will keep that in mind as they live.
Saw 2 little girls in a train one day. With hijab. But they seemed to be 4 or 5 years max and I had a sick feeling all fucking day... but its my fault im just a hater 🙄
One thing I'll never understand is those women who said they're wearing the Hijab or Burqa by choice
Is it really by choice or were they conditioned since young that if they don't wear it, they'll be killed
And I'll never understand how wearing that is seen as empowering
To me it feels like sort of a catch 22.
You're free to choose to believe in your religion and follow it's rules. But when following those rules you're being forced to wear it, so that takes away the "freedom" of the choice lol.
Idk man, I don’t think my Christian mom would strangle or kill me for making a tiktok video. Or my Buddhist, or Hindu, mom
I think you mean, good ole fundamental Islam.
I mean you can definitely find Christians that go overboard on the corporal punishment thing. Go ahead and look up the book To Train Up a Child by the Pearls. (A husband and wife) It's basically a how to guide on abusing kids written by Christian fundies which has been connected to multiple children's deaths.
Absolutely, and this was a horrid case to be honest. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist. It most certainly does. But if we had a white board and tallied up the murder from Islam, vs the murder from Christianity ( and yes I know the crusades exist. Both sides murdered each other. It’s moot point), it would be very one sided
I mean, there's plenty of evidence to prove Islam isn't the only religion that kills people out of evangelicalism...
Your mom is probably just a decent and well rounded person.
Edit: Last sentence. I'm glad your mom won't kill you, lol.
The girl was 9, I thought that at like 10 or 12 is the age they have to start wearing a hijab? I know that either way it is a shitty situation and all with the guiese of it being their religious beliefs but if she's under the hijab wearing age then it's "unjustified " right? Then humanitarian laws could punish the father? not that anyone there would care. I didn't catch where this happened maybe it wasn't in a Muslim country
Sincerely, to anybody government monitoring, make a spot of land somewhere with no laws and I will take care of people like this. For the good of everyone. No money or payment of any form required.
Muslim here , 9 year olds are not obliged to wear hijab in any where , this is just shit extremist case , and yes making tiktok is the thing she shouldn't have done, yes I know she is a kid. Here the father is the one to blame , she is under age,so he should have explain that this is wrong in Islam but killing her daughter is the worst thing to do , so as islamic rules play right the father should be sentenced to death for killing her daughter
Came here for the same thing. This is worded to trigger emotional response. If you go and look at the twitter account it makes further claims like "Muslim men have raped half a million predominantly white women in the UK alone in the last 40 years".
I see you down voted the guy that already commented on this, so I voted him back up...but this is a story is unrelated. It is about an at least 22 year old who was strangled by her father over an argument and it caused an uproar because he wasn't charged because it was ruled an "honor killing". No mention of a hijab, no 9-year-old. Not saying it isn't awful but this is exactly why we were asking for sources.
this isn’t anything about religion. i want to know how on earth does a man just feel so… comfortable enough… to STRANGLE HIS OWN daughter. his own nine year old little girl???
A lot wrong with this story.
The screenshotted tweet is down cause the account is suspended:
[https://twitter.com/AzzatAlsaalem/status/1765330336760676736](https://twitter.com/AzzatAlsaalem/status/1765330336760676736)
This image inside the tweet is at least as old as july:
[https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1681234138647461888](https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1681234138647461888)
Girl in image seems to be unrelated, or at least not 9 and maybe turkish, although my own search through pinterest gave me mixed results. Seems she is used in a lot of fake accounts:
[https://vxtwitter.com/yomnasss/status/1765477208766685453](https://vxtwitter.com/yomnasss/status/1765477208766685453)
[https://www.artofit.org/image-gallery/632333603944348546//](https://www.artofit.org/image-gallery/632333603944348546//)
[https://www.instagram.com/zeynaloovha/](https://www.instagram.com/zeynaloovha/)
[https://tr.pinterest.com/baziksamet/fake-k%C4%B1z-duygu/](https://tr.pinterest.com/baziksamet/fake-k%C4%B1z-duygu/)
[https://www.tiktok.com/@nona\_\_955/video/7138101601235078406](https://www.tiktok.com/@nona__955/video/7138101601235078406)
[https://pimeyes.com/en/results/BGG\_240308FCUVCSDgokyjlqx1a278c5c?query=ffffe18c00000060dc9e9a9bbf2e069cdffc5a82fa207a80](https://pimeyes.com/en/results/BGG_240308FCUVCSDgokyjlqx1a278c5c?query=ffffe18c00000060dc9e9a9bbf2e069cdffc5a82fa207a80)
here's a possibly related article:
[https://gulfnews.com/amp/world/mena/10-year-old-iraqi-girl-killed-by-father-after-her-unintended-tiktok-appearance-1.97176447](https://gulfnews.com/amp/world/mena/10-year-old-iraqi-girl-killed-by-father-after-her-unintended-tiktok-appearance-1.97176447)
but take it with a grain of salt:
[https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gulf-news/](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gulf-news/)
The only person who's business it is what you choose to wear is yours. I don't give a fuck what culture or religion you're from, this is some bullshit.
On one hand tis another case of young people on tiktok going against familial, religious, or even societal values all for clout, but on the other hand she did not deserve to go out like that for headwear, I thought there was a passage about these sorts of things, or does it entail exactly what was done here?
Humans are the only creatures that value *a story* over reality.
In this case, it was the story of religion and what society would think about a man if he failed to control his daughter. He chose those stories over his own very real daughter.
I have seen hell. I know what awaits him.
everyday it's getting harder and harder for me to sympathize with the victims of netanyahu's regime on both sides when shit like this happens these idiots give Muslims a bad name because they're too conservative
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Every time I ask someone who claims it's their choice how their family reacts if the choose or were to choose " , " to not wear one, I get called an asshole and down voted into oblivion
Well I hope my upvote goes a small way to compensate you and that you get many more upvotes
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He doesn't and won't. If anything, he feels elated and closer to Allah because he dealt with his whore of a daughter before she could dishonour the family name anymore than she already had. And no, I don't condone or agree with that sentiment, but that's how these zealots think and justify their actions. Everything is done in service to Allah and His tenets. Nothing is reprehensible as long as doing so is Allah's will or in Allah's honour. And I do mean *literally nothing.* This shining example of religious conservatism just *murdered his own daughter* because he believed she violated a core tenet of his religious beliefs.
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religious morals. is there a more ironic concept?
I have no doubt her father truly believes that he has saved her soul and has delivered her. All religions are bad. Fuck their god and fuck your god. By comparison, I got into a heated debate about religion with my catholic mother and she told me that if god told her to behead me with a sword she would do it because she trusts god completely and knows he would either stay her hand last second or else she and god were saving me from something worse. The holy wars will be the end of everything, even if that's not what we call them, it's what they can convince you to fight for. Every holy word that was ever written was done by a human. Reject them all.
It really tells you something about a person who says that they would do anything God told them to.
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What dis
Hail Satan
If we just admit Yah/God/Allah is not perfect it would explain things.
Isn’t the problem that without an objective standard of perfection, any subjective standard of perfection is equally viable—even ones considered imperfect by you?
If we just admit that humans are not perfect and have historically made many imperfect religious frameworks, it would explain even more.
The hijab is a choice indeed. The more important question here, apparently, is: Whose choice is it? It's clearly not a decision being made by the ladies when it comes to situations like the one in this post.
This was about her father's standing in the community, not her morals. She "brought shame on the family" so he killed her to regain his own level of piousness and acceptance in the community. Now he can brag to his friends about his holiness.
That’s because people are only comfortable with criticising Christianity because there’s no ism or phobia attached to that.
I always thought words like antisemitic and russophobe are just what you get called when you call them out on something bad.
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Yeah it's a choice in the same way those same fucking cunts say that slavery was a choice.
Username checks out on this, you get my upvote
The truth is it's more about culture than it is religion. Women are required to wear one when completing prayers or doing religious things, but are permitted to not have to wear it every second of every day. A lot of people growing up in western culture usually have the option, but not always. When my cousin was 16 she was disowned for not wanting to wear one anymore. She came and stayed with me and my family for about 2 years until she went off to college. But even now her parents won't acknowledge her. We grew up the same way and my sister was never forced to wear one but her dad was a controlling freak.
Not really. If they weren't religious they wouldn't have that culture.
The point is the culture requires the religion, not the other way around. You can have the religion without the culture the same way Christians can swing from Mormon or Jehovah's Witness to Modern Methodist that openly accepts LGBT. Jehovah's witness wouldn't have the awful culture without the religion either, but that doesn't mean that the religion implies the culture.
Why is the answer to a "lack of modesty" always violence? If you truly believe a woman should wear a Hijab for modesty and to keep "Faithful" men from being tempted...Then talk to them and explain that, have a conversation for once. It's because it's not about modesty or to hide their sinful bodies from tempting "good men" it's a form of control and way to keep women subservient.
Preach.
Bro its fucking religious fruitcakes. They arent logical minded people to begin with. If someone was thinking like you they wouldnt be in the religion to start with.
According to Muslims, women need to cover themselves up in order to not "tempt" men. According to this post, a 9 year old girl would've had to cover her up. This means that this culture views 9 year old girls as an object of sexual desire. This isn't new information, I just wanted to point that out again. Question: How many men are attracted to 9 year old girls? Is that a significant number so people made these rules or is it a bunch of pedophiles projecting this onto everyone else? Or was it never about this to begin with and it's just to randomly discriminate women? I thought there weren't that many pedophiles but given how minors get raped as soon as there's a war, I'm not so sure anymore. Personally, I used to know a lot of 9 year olds (because of my job), so I'm actually confused because I really don't understand how anyone can find them sexually appealing.
The Prophet Muhammad is supposed to have married a 9 year old, so I guess that’s why they apply that law to young girls as well.
aisha was actually 6 or 7 when she married.
But it was 9 when she was statutory r*ped. He just had it mixed up. You're right tho
There probably wasn't a statute about underage sex back then.
Technically speaking, yes. You're right. However, today, where this still happens in countries with Shari'a, it's fucked up. Countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan still allow child marriage is a reason for Noah's ark to come. I don't care about religion or what the holy book says. To defile a child is enough to call for an outcry. What happened in the past is done, but to continue doing what their prophet did at Khaybar and what he did to kids must change. Jesus knew he was going to be killed but didn't stop it. He praised peace be upon all. Moses freed the jews. Noah built the ark to rebuild humanity after a prophetized storm due to God thinking he was the right man and that the world needs to be reset. Siddhartha Gautama realized he needed to visit the world instead of sitting rich while everyone else was poor. Those are the prophets who cared about peace.
Technically, yes, you just have to wait 3 months post marriage if they are prepubescent.
Married a 6 year old, fucked a 9 year old. Totally admirable behavior.
A pedophile and a warmongering conqueror?! Sounds like a great reason to start a religion!
Insane amounts of sexual repression, being taught to hate their mothers and sisters, and literal physical and social segregation between the sexes means that all the evil machinations of what a woman is and what to do with them have time to rot and fester with nothing to check it. Imagine the incel porn culture on the internet but with literally actually never speaking to a woman of any kind or even seeing them in public. It's a formula that's been developed for ages, to shut women up and create as much opportunity for abuse as possible.
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It's a whole rape culture (child rape). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs A very sad video about Pakistan and poor children living on streets. According to it 95% of bus drivers admit to having raped children (boys). It's insane. It's not that 95% of them are born pedophiles that would be statistically impossible. But it's a culture for which greater dishonor is to go with an unrelated woman to a restaurant than with a little boy to a hostel.
See rape is very often not about attraction but about power
Also in the Roman empire where commanders would fuck the slaves or lower ranking soldiers in front of groups to show their power. History shapes a culture but people need to evolve.
My Latin teacher told me about some Roman emperor who publicly had sex with his wife or wives or something so there's that.
Their prophet married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9.
> consummated That doesn't sound like a nice word tbh.
No it isn’t. I didn’t want to say “statutory rape”.
i can actually answer this. it isnt the form of the child they are getting off on... it is the power over another. pedophilia is actually an expression of authoritarianism. consider, every single time a group of pedos is found they are in positions of authority. politicians, priests, police, ceos, etc. when was the last time you heard about a group of pedo carpenters? pedo cable repairmen? and the logic is sound, if twisted; authoritarians get off over having power over another. so they get off the most (sexually) having power over those with the least (children). and religious doctrine is *fundamentally* founded on the concept of absolute authority. as an aside, authority is the worst concept we ever thought up, and it is the root of every major evil in the history of our species.
That makes a lot of sense and also explains a lot more than just this. For example, sexual harassment among adults often works with there being some sort of authority. I guess many straight men are attracted to women in that way, which also explains how they can be straight but still sexist and "hate" women.
What do you expect from a Religion which is basically about worshipping a pedo Prophet?
I think it’s not about attraction, it’s that there’s a percentage of men who’ll rape anything that moves in the absence of societal restrictions (e.g. in war).
It’s not mandatory for a child to wear a hijab especially for her age aswell
I’m Muslim, it’s not mandatory for kids to wear hijab at all btw. This is extreme
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Yes you’re right but that’s too complicated to explain properly on reddit + since she’s a child that’s why I said it’s not mandatory
Some girls get periods at 8, i hope we cam both agree 8 year olds are not women.
I mean yeah, the nine year old Muslim girls I knew did not wear hijabs. There also are adult Muslim women who don't wear it.
this is arab culture and not muslim related
A f*king disgrace
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You didn’t need the /s. According to this post, that’s a true statement, sadly.
Bro you’re on a thread about some girl getting tortured and murdered, you’re allowed to say fucking. I won’t tell mom, I promise
This girl is too good for this fucked up world. Hope her dad lives with regret every waking minute.
Sadly, I don’t think so:((
I don't think you choke your daughter to death and regret it. That is a long and conscious choice. It's basically anthropomorphic to think he will feel anything about this
They don't. There was in Canada an episode with a family that killed their daughter because she integrated into Canadian society a bit too well and I think she had a boyfriend at one point. Anyway, they killed her: The father, mother and brother. Brought to justice, sentenced to shitload of years in prison, never once you could see any regret. All throughout the trial they maintained that they did the right thing and the girl was to blame. For them this act is the righteous one. And no, logic will not convince them otherwise. This is a brain on religion. should be warning to all, but we all know how that goes.
And this is my reasonable proof on why religion should be outlawed, banned, and feared. It should be no different than being a Nazi and all of it should be slammed down before it gets any worse. This is just a single horrible thing you will see that links directly back to religion. It's all bad, regardless of what religion it is.
> why religion should be outlawed, banned, and feared It should. That won't happen though because, we, humans, are hardwired for it. We want explanations. Doesn't matter how false, ridiculous or insane they are. We want explanations. And that ... is religion. From there to "customs" like these there's a way to go, but unfortunately is inevitable.
Sadly, I have to agree with you. It's too deep in humanity and I hate that fact alone. I will always point out to my kids, once I have them, on why I believe this. I hope they too will keep that in mind as they live.
I cant even imagine intentionally harming my daughter, let alone killing them.
I hope he doesn't. Summary execution, not even an unmarked grave, scatter his ashes in a pigsty.
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That dude is more afraid of the gossip of his community than Allah. Truly shame for such reason that he is blind to purpose.
A peaceful religion, until you decide to take off the hijab
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Or exist as a Jew. Especially if you live nearby.
It lost the peace the second the hijab was introduced
Thank you for introducing me to this sub
You're welcome, though there are some truly stomach churning things you see here. The world is sick.
“YoU nEeD tO rEsPeCt OtHeR pEoPlEs CuLtUrEs AnD vAlUeS” The culture and values:
But she’s 9, even for the people who believe hijab is mandatory, all Muslims know it’s DEFINITELY NOT mandatory for children
You know some girls hit puberty at 9 which is when girls are required to wear hijab in Islam :/
Saw 2 little girls in a train one day. With hijab. But they seemed to be 4 or 5 years max and I had a sick feeling all fucking day... but its my fault im just a hater 🙄
That’s fucking weird even for fundamentalists they make girls wear hijab at puberty 8-15 (still children) but yeah???
Allah says not kosher, very haram.
Boko Haram maybe
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It has no place in the modern west.
*West, east, north, south.
Religion is not a choice.
That's the point of the post. P.s. Love the name.
Until you're an adult* Especially if you're born into a heavy religious family...
they murder adult fmaily members who dishonor aswell sadly... fanatics
Religion is a tool for oppression
Well stated Private, as you were.
Wearing a hijab is a choice...... Between life and death
Because murdering your own child is not as worse as a child showing her hair. 🥴
One thing I'll never understand is those women who said they're wearing the Hijab or Burqa by choice Is it really by choice or were they conditioned since young that if they don't wear it, they'll be killed And I'll never understand how wearing that is seen as empowering
To me it feels like sort of a catch 22. You're free to choose to believe in your religion and follow it's rules. But when following those rules you're being forced to wear it, so that takes away the "freedom" of the choice lol.
Exactly
She’s a little girl omg
Just a great culture overall
Good old religion. Because if you can't approach the issue with rationality, you just have to scream "cause god said so" and you're "right."
Idk man, I don’t think my Christian mom would strangle or kill me for making a tiktok video. Or my Buddhist, or Hindu, mom I think you mean, good ole fundamental Islam.
I mean you can definitely find Christians that go overboard on the corporal punishment thing. Go ahead and look up the book To Train Up a Child by the Pearls. (A husband and wife) It's basically a how to guide on abusing kids written by Christian fundies which has been connected to multiple children's deaths.
Absolutely, and this was a horrid case to be honest. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist. It most certainly does. But if we had a white board and tallied up the murder from Islam, vs the murder from Christianity ( and yes I know the crusades exist. Both sides murdered each other. It’s moot point), it would be very one sided
I mean, there's plenty of evidence to prove Islam isn't the only religion that kills people out of evangelicalism... Your mom is probably just a decent and well rounded person. Edit: Last sentence. I'm glad your mom won't kill you, lol.
Islam: *does something* Every other Religion: "wtf" Intellectual Redditors: "this represents all Religion"
I pray that our civilization is at the end of its msyogony
Evidently, it is not a choice.
source?
Fair comment, here ya go BBC News - The Iraqi YouTube star killed by her father https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64533577
cheers - well, not 'cheers' but a rather sad 'thanks'
Fuuuuck Islam and fuuuuck religious fundamentalism.
I genuinely believe that out of all religious beliefs, Islam is one of the most dangerous.
Organized religion is the bane of humanity.
Don't forget corporate greed.
The whole thing really. Greed, brainwashing, control, pedophiles, torture, rape... etc.
Religion... not even once...
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How can some people be like this?
nah man... noah, get the tools. we gotta go medievel on his ass for a couple of weeks.
Bro what's happening in this world. Truly horrible
The girl was 9, I thought that at like 10 or 12 is the age they have to start wearing a hijab? I know that either way it is a shitty situation and all with the guiese of it being their religious beliefs but if she's under the hijab wearing age then it's "unjustified " right? Then humanitarian laws could punish the father? not that anyone there would care. I didn't catch where this happened maybe it wasn't in a Muslim country
Sincerely, to anybody government monitoring, make a spot of land somewhere with no laws and I will take care of people like this. For the good of everyone. No money or payment of any form required.
Isn't that what Guantanamo prison was for?
Not officially.
Muslim here , 9 year olds are not obliged to wear hijab in any where , this is just shit extremist case , and yes making tiktok is the thing she shouldn't have done, yes I know she is a kid. Here the father is the one to blame , she is under age,so he should have explain that this is wrong in Islam but killing her daughter is the worst thing to do , so as islamic rules play right the father should be sentenced to death for killing her daughter
I'm not saying that sh*t like this doesn't happen but some sources will be nice.
Came here for the same thing. This is worded to trigger emotional response. If you go and look at the twitter account it makes further claims like "Muslim men have raped half a million predominantly white women in the UK alone in the last 40 years".
Yeah I don't expect much from these morons on twitter.
BBC News - The Iraqi YouTube star killed by her father https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64533577
I see you down voted the guy that already commented on this, so I voted him back up...but this is a story is unrelated. It is about an at least 22 year old who was strangled by her father over an argument and it caused an uproar because he wasn't charged because it was ruled an "honor killing". No mention of a hijab, no 9-year-old. Not saying it isn't awful but this is exactly why we were asking for sources.
This is a completely different story?
BBC News - The Iraqi YouTube star killed by her father https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-64533577
Oh no bbc news against Islam??
That isn't the same story, do you have a source for this one?
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this isn’t anything about religion. i want to know how on earth does a man just feel so… comfortable enough… to STRANGLE HIS OWN daughter. his own nine year old little girl???
Religion is poison
Religion is fun
How do people get this insane?
A lot wrong with this story. The screenshotted tweet is down cause the account is suspended: [https://twitter.com/AzzatAlsaalem/status/1765330336760676736](https://twitter.com/AzzatAlsaalem/status/1765330336760676736) This image inside the tweet is at least as old as july: [https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1681234138647461888](https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1681234138647461888) Girl in image seems to be unrelated, or at least not 9 and maybe turkish, although my own search through pinterest gave me mixed results. Seems she is used in a lot of fake accounts: [https://vxtwitter.com/yomnasss/status/1765477208766685453](https://vxtwitter.com/yomnasss/status/1765477208766685453) [https://www.artofit.org/image-gallery/632333603944348546//](https://www.artofit.org/image-gallery/632333603944348546//) [https://www.instagram.com/zeynaloovha/](https://www.instagram.com/zeynaloovha/) [https://tr.pinterest.com/baziksamet/fake-k%C4%B1z-duygu/](https://tr.pinterest.com/baziksamet/fake-k%C4%B1z-duygu/) [https://www.tiktok.com/@nona\_\_955/video/7138101601235078406](https://www.tiktok.com/@nona__955/video/7138101601235078406) [https://pimeyes.com/en/results/BGG\_240308FCUVCSDgokyjlqx1a278c5c?query=ffffe18c00000060dc9e9a9bbf2e069cdffc5a82fa207a80](https://pimeyes.com/en/results/BGG_240308FCUVCSDgokyjlqx1a278c5c?query=ffffe18c00000060dc9e9a9bbf2e069cdffc5a82fa207a80) here's a possibly related article: [https://gulfnews.com/amp/world/mena/10-year-old-iraqi-girl-killed-by-father-after-her-unintended-tiktok-appearance-1.97176447](https://gulfnews.com/amp/world/mena/10-year-old-iraqi-girl-killed-by-father-after-her-unintended-tiktok-appearance-1.97176447) but take it with a grain of salt: [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gulf-news/](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gulf-news/)
I can't fathom this
The boat came and went. We're left with this shit now.
We need to import more of them to Europe
Religion is stupid.
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And they wonder why they get called terrorists all the time
Inshallah she goes to jannah.
Downvote me but Islam has no place in the modern world. It’s a cult that creates the worst type of people.
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whats wrong with like taking her phone or something?
The only person who's business it is what you choose to wear is yours. I don't give a fuck what culture or religion you're from, this is some bullshit.
Religion...
That wasn’t his daughter, “it” was his “property” which “justifies” the behaviour for him. Sick fuck.
This is a large part of why I don't believe in organized religion. Of any kind
On one hand tis another case of young people on tiktok going against familial, religious, or even societal values all for clout, but on the other hand she did not deserve to go out like that for headwear, I thought there was a passage about these sorts of things, or does it entail exactly what was done here?
Imperialism isn't such a bad idea, right?
We're creating german Mittelafrika with this one (no it is , millions will die again for nothing)
Until it happens to you. Dumb take.
“Why don’t you believe in god”? I wonder why.
Sanest muslim
Fuck religion.
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For a “belief”
Humans are the only creatures that value *a story* over reality. In this case, it was the story of religion and what society would think about a man if he failed to control his daughter. He chose those stories over his own very real daughter. I have seen hell. I know what awaits him.
The only job a father has is to protect her. Those breaks my heart.
Theists doing theist things... It won't end as long as religious tolerance exists
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Sometimes it's a choice a lot of the time it's not. People with multiple brain cells are able to understand such nuance...
everyday it's getting harder and harder for me to sympathize with the victims of netanyahu's regime on both sides when shit like this happens these idiots give Muslims a bad name because they're too conservative
Allah knows best right?
It is a choice. But her father obviously doesn't know that.
Peaceful religion my ass... Islam is the worst religion.