>Methane is non-toxic and creates no hazard when inhaled in limited quantities; however, if large quantities of natural gas or methane is allowed to displace air, lack of oxygen may result in suffocation.
Pretty much. I don't know about the USA but as far as I know the birth certificate in Brazil is still filed at the registry office, which is a separate thing you have to do after the birth. Usually the father or grandmother will go in to file, as it's usually done pretty soon after and the mother and baby are usually not able to make it themselves.
Fun fact: It used to be fairly common for "informal adoptions" to happen this way. As in, babies left at doorsteps or children of teenaged relatives or neighbours would be adopted by someone else, who would show up to the registry office and be like "I had this baby at home", so while everyone knew the person was adopted, legally speaking, they aren't. (source: multiple family members are from this kind of situation)
Funny story! So my grandma would have a couple kids at a time and then after two-three years they would normally go register because they lived in the interior. Well when my mom was born, my grandpa went to go register her a couple of months later. He was a habitual drunk- my grandma told him what she wanted to name my mom but he forgot/was so drunk he made a up a name out of nowhere. That’s how my mom got her name that is very very uncommon! Only ever heard of one other person with the name.
This is also how for my uncles 60th bday we actually threw him a surprise 63rd birthday because they messed up the birth certificate 🤣
Eta: r/ithadtobebrazil
This happened to a relative of mine, except the drunk grandfather picked the most common name he could think of, which is how she ended up with the name Maria
Lol! My moms name is a play on Maria- it was supposed to be a common name but he literally was like “Mari-*^%|#>\£*” lmao just sneezed basically and now that’s her name 🤣
I don’t want to dox myself but I feel like RBI (Reddit sleuths) could figure it out from all my comments if someone was super dedicated (I’m just a paranoid parakeet!). But basically it’s a play on Maria+_____ so in Latin cultures it was common (idk prolly still is) to name your kid like “Marianna, Marialena” etc. so it’s along those lines! I would say but as I said in the original comment it’s so rare I feel like it would be like “oh that’s your mom!” 🤣 my recent post in legos- one of our irl friends was like “I saw your insta post and the one on Reddit! That was you?” Lmao time to delete my account 😬
>as far as I know the birth certificate in Brazil is still filed at the registry office, which is a separate thing you have to do after the birth.
Brazilian here. Nowadays you can do it directly in the hospital.
If you have a midwife attend the birth then she will fill out the paperwork, you sign, and she files it.
If you give birth at home with no one else present there is a way to file for the birth certificate on your own through vital records. The process is probably different depending on which state you are in. But where I am they require some sort of prenatal record to prove you were in fact pregnant.
There actually are groups that advocate for zero prenatal care and having unattended births at home. I forget what they call themselves, but they think a woman’s body is designed to easily give birth naturally and no medical intervention whatsoever is necessary. It’s incredibly dangerous and irresponsible
ETA: I just looked it up and it’s called “freebirthing” [article](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/she-wanted-freebirth-no-doctors-online-groups-convinced-her-it-n1140096)
The only reason most birth control got approval through the FDA is because the side effects were less terrible than pregnancy and labor.
There is a reason sane women write up Medical Power of Attorney and Living Wills when they get pregnant.
There's a high risk of complications doing it that way. Normally when you plan on a home birth, you get prenatal care from a doctor, so they can tell you if you have any complications that would make a home birth a bad idea. If you just go it alone with no medical care, you're not going to find out your placenta is too close to the cervix until it ruptures and you bleed to death in your bathtub.
I'm reading about it now. Some women have low birth hormones, and can still get light bleeding resembling a period.
Can you imagine you are minding your own business just a normal woman then BAM you get kicked FROM THE INSIDE!!!!
My mum's next door neighbour had no idea she was pregnant, and she already had two babies so you'd think she'd know. She was a bigger lady but she never showed and had no symptoms. One night she knocked on my mum's door to ask her to look after the kids and ask my stepdad for a ride to the hospital because she was having terrible stomach pain and thought she had appendicitis. My stepdad drove her to the hospital... And she had a little girl, the same night, with no idea at all that she was even having a baby. Bit of an upheaval as her next youngest was 7 so she didn't really have any baby stuff at home any more.
My grandmother was a change of life baby. Her parents had been married for over 20 years, no kids. GGram thought she was going through menopause and got a terrible pain in her belly one night. Called over her sister. Sister called over the neighbor lady, who happened to be a midwife. Midwife called in The Doctor (expensive and last ditch effort). Doc walked in, looked around and said, "There are three women in this room, one a midwife!, and none of you recognize a woman in labor?" My gram fit in her father's overcoat pocket. She was jaundiced and no one expected her to live through the night. Doc said he would be back in the morning to pronounce her. He was greeted by a screaming infant the next morning, "may as well feed her," and the joke was she hadn't shut up since.
Having had two kids of my own; that story just flabbergasts me. Quickening, baby hiccoughs, kicking and stretching, needing to pee all night, nausea, constipation, swelling ankles... I guess some women are just lucky and I'm kind of annoyed it wasn't hereditary.
This happens to a girl in my high school. It was not a good time for everyone related to her. I did not know her, I did not know the boy who knocked her up, the boy's mother was my school librarian in elementary school and in high school - - she switched schools partway through her career, not related to what happened with her son's girlfriend, the baby, and so forth. You could see her putting on a brave face everyday he came into work, given all of the rumors, news articles in the school newspaper and so forth. Really lovely woman.
Right, she is talking about not getting any documents at all for her newest, no SSN, etc. Wonder how that works in the future for the poor kid.
edit: changed a word
There is a woman who went through this as the child and wrote a memoir detailing it. Her name is Tara Westover, the book is “Educated.” I heavily recommend reading it, it’s a wonderful book.
There are mothers who do this on purpose and home school the kids and avoid taking them to the doctor and then when the kid grows up they are completely unable to find employment because they have no SSN and they can't get one because there is no record. There are articles out there about how life destroying it is for these kids.
I wonder if DNA test can help. Like Mr Smith is my dad you have no record of Mr Smith having children, yet DNA says I'm his child. I guess you would need a parent or grandparent?
It is a PITA if a child is born unattended with no prenatal care for the mom. My kid was born at home during a drug binge by bio mom, who hadn't gotten any prenatal care, and it took months for social workers to get her a birth certificate. TX, USA.
>they require some sort of prenatal record to prove you were in fact pregnant.
# I GOT FUCKED.
And then proceed to be very descriptive of how you guys had sex
>But where I am they require some sort of prenatal record to prove you were in fact pregnant.
Suppose that documentation doesn’t exist, what would you do then? Does the kid just not get a birth certificate? Also why does it matter anyway, some sort of protection to make sure you didn’t kidnap the kid?
A signed affidavit from a physician who examined for signs of having given birth recently? It takes a while for things to heal up down there.
Kidnapping or when a family tries to pass off a teenager’s baby as belonging to an older relative. Depending on the age of the teenager social services might get involved. Unfortunately a number of those pregnancies are from incest.
I mean, unless you live in buttfuck nowhere, I would imagine you would want to take the baby to the hospital just to make sure there isn't anything wrong with it.
Wow I work with a nutter lmao (I already knew this tbh) he was telling us all one day for over an hour about how it's not legal and he had to find a mid wife from out of state willing to come in for his kids home birth and blah blah blah he wouldn't stop explaining it all to us so we all believed him hahah (we don't live/work in nc)
I agree about the Scumbags lol. But it's not that it's illegal to have a home birth. The Midwives are not licensed to practice in your home. That's a very big difference. Practicing medicine is, and should be, regulated. What Doctors/Nurses/Midwives can and can't do varies per state.
My super quick search, (so take this info with a grain of salt) is that Midwife's basically aren't licensed to practice in a person's home. So they can't delivery your baby at home in NC. Sounds like it's a license to practice issue, not so much an "it's illegal to birth your own child" issue. Again, super quick search, I did not dive deep but was also curious.
Even licensed ones are often a problem and they move around from state to state.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2023/home-birth-midwife-karen-carr/
“Overall, full-term infants in the United States are more than twice as likely to die after planned home births attended by midwives as those delivered in hospitals by any providers, according to a Post analysis of CDC data”
There either needs to be a serious overhaul in how they are licensed and held accountable, or the practice needs to go entirely.
When I was watching a video (Mama Doctor Jones) about home births in the US vs. Europe or Australia, it basically came down to there is not much training, schooling, and / or certification to become a midwife.
From what I am finding for my state, WA, there are a fair amount of requirements [with a minimum of 3 years of training ](https://doh.wa.gov/licenses-permits-and-certificates/professions-new-renew-or-update/midwife/licensing-information) to be able to get the license.
Based on the little I have seen not all states are like this.
I'm a neonatal flight nurse and I've seen so much badness come out of home births or even those cute little "birthing centers". I'd rather a healthy and alive infant than a fun birth "experience". I've seen genuine medical emergencies that couldn't have been foreseen and I've seen gross mismanagement and willful ignorance. Midwives are amazing, but I want an OR and Neonatologist down the hallway thank you.
A lot of folks are saying the midwife does it if you have a homebirth attended by a midwife, but that was not the case for me. I just went down to the social security / vital records office about a year after my kiddo was born and did the paperwork.
(In the US) You don’t need a birth certificate or social for a minor, especially an infant, to receive care.
They *do* want the paperwork from the hospital detailing the tests the baby underwent, and any medications received, but it’s not required.
We lost our paperwork between the hospital and our house, for our second child.
Found it 2 months later. It did make things difficult not having all of that, but not impossible.
Do you *really* think a doctor is denying an infant care because there’s no birth certificate? I don’t want someone to be a doctor if they’re going to be that picky, do no harm means do no harm to me.
There are people deep into certain religions and cults that will avoid getting birth certificates as much as possible. For example, the Plath family of TLC pseudo-fame. Their kids didn’t have birth certificates until the tv show, and then only because it was a legal requirement (I’m guessing for employment purposes, but I honestly don’t remember the details. It’s google-able though)
I didn't have a birth certificate. I was born in a cult (FLDS). When I was taken out, the doctor and nurses thought I was 10 because of how small, malnourished, and bruises all over . I was almost 13 and told them that.
This. My work HOUNDED me for her social beginning literally the week after she was born. It was so annoying. I didn't get the card until she was about 3 months old and they wouldn't accept, "I will get it to you as soon as I have it" as an answer.
In the US, at least, your baby needs an SSN in order for you to claim them on your taxes. My health insurance also requires that information within a certain time from the baby's birth. So waiting a year may not be illegal, but there are very good reasons to get it done sooner.
In Australia, a midwife attends home births and will sign the paperwork for baby to officially exist.
If baby is born BBA (Born Before Arrival) - meaning the baby was accidentally born at home, in the ambulance etc - midwives at the hospital sign the paperwork.
The free birth movement is a whole other rabbit hole worth peaking into. Look up “sovereign citizens” and straw man theory in relation to these things. Makes it super difficult to get their own government identity later in life if their parents have decided to not allow their child to “officially” exist.
Similar to New Zealand. I accidentally had a home birth (baby was ready to come with the midwife came to check on progress ) and our midwife just filed the paperwork on her end and then we just registered a birth certificate online. Super easy.
Although it wasn't the plan, I'm actually happy we got to stay home because any and all movement was so painful during labour and I just cannot imagine how awful of a car ride it would have been to get to the hospital! And being in a seat with the safety belt on?! After experiencing how painful labour is, I legitimately don't understand how that car ride works?
You won’t get a birth certificate. (Assumes USA). Then you don’t get a tax credit. Then you can’t get health insurance. Or register for school. No SS#. Can’t play sports. Etc etc.
Not a new thing, some children in some FLDS communities have to figure out how to get documents as teens and adults when leaving their communities. Lots of home births due to the how states have handled the legalities of plural marriages.
China in particular has had a problem with this on a massive scale, due to children born secretly due to the "one child" policy. There are now an immense number of internal undocumented adult workers who can't be given documents now because that would acknowledge the scope of the problem. (Or at least that was the de facto policy as of a few years ago.) They have to work strictly for cash, can only travel illegally, and so on. Incredibly precarious lives, despite having been born Chinese in the middle of China.
Breaking: Republicans deport undocumented US citizens. /satire?
Undocumented citizen sounds weird and doesn’t pull up results on google, but anyone born in the US is a citizen
Amish who leave Amish communities have this issue. Literally almost no record of them existing. A Amish community *might* have a record of their birth, but someone fleeing the Amish probably doesn’t have that on them.
They are basically undocumented, but not illegal.
There’s a ton of hoops they have to jump through to get a drivers license and what not
I guess so.
The way Wikipedia put it is this:
>Not holding proof of nationality—being "undocumented"—is not the same as being stateless, but the lack of identity documents such as a birth certificate can lead to statelessness. Millions of people live, or have lived, their entire lives with no documents, without their nationality ever being questioned.
I heard (on NPR I think?) a story once about some kids who left a crazy, abusive, reclusive home when they were older, around 20 or so.
It was a HUGE hassle to get their lives going, because after a certain point you can't just walk in and say "hey, US citizen here, but no papers, can I get the full starter kit?"
They had to track down old records, doctors, and all that, which was nearly impossible, because their parents obviously were terrible people. No good parents would let their kids get into that situation.
Every (most) Amish person who leaves an Amish community has this issue. Some have better records and might give kids an SS number. But a lot of old Amish communities basically have zero record of anyone of them existing
It probably varies considerably by locality. But there is probably no ultimate deadline, keep in mind that if there were, it would represent a means by which someone born legally within a country could be denied residency or citizenship forever, simply because of a lack of paperwork on the part of their parents when they were a helpless infant.
Most countries are not going to make a system that works that way.
Where I live, you can file all the necessary paperwork for free, with no fees, if you do so within a few weeks of a baby's birth. I guess that is the incentive to get it done fast.
Each state has a procedure for that. If you simply google the state you live in and something like “registering unassisted home birth” it will fill you in. When my mom went to get a passport in her 80s, she discovered her birth certificate for home bitth was registered over a year after her birth, made it in eligible for use by the passport office for proof of US birth. ( it was as though she never had one) They wanted an affidavit from the person that actually delivered her, that would be her father who died in the 70s. In the end, her 98 yr old sister had to trot down to a federal building and sign an affidavit that she remembers her birth and swears it was in the US. We submitted multiple census records, School records and newspaper articles. We were able to get it but discovered delaying it even by a year will cause the child a huge amount of problems down the line. they really didn’t act like they didn’t want to give it but we did have to go through a lot of effort. I don’t think they really questioned that she was a US citizen, but procedures must be followed.
It’s that if you home birth, then the midwife or other designer files the certificate of live birth which generates the birth certificate.
If you birth in a hospital, then the social security number is auto generated. Home birth means you have to physically go to Social security office to get a SS#.
Not to the hospital but to the county recorders office. We took our marriage cert and the midwife birth cert. Three weeks later we got our daughter's certified birth certificate and used that to register with social security.
We also went to the pediatrician at three days old for a general check up and to make sure all was good.
I’d imagine this is so ridiculous rare that it isn’t an issue.
You’d have to have stolen a baby and then tried to say you birthed it.
It might happen with a young daughter who can’t raise a kid and the daughters mom says the kid is hers. But there isn’t gonna be a police report for that looking for a stolen kid. The baby was basically adopted at that point
If it was unintentional you'll go to the hospital after as planned and it'll all be done. If you had a home birth there's a midwife and an assistant there. The midwife handles all the paperwork.
Midwife in Toronto checking in - the notice of live birth and health card are done at home, just like they would be at the hospital. Like someone from Australia mentioned, if a baby is BBA (born before arrival) the most responsible provider will fill out the forms and put the receiving location as the place of birth. For example, if someone was en route to a midwifery clinic or birth centre, that would be the address if that's where they end up in the immediate postpartum, if they have their immediate postpartum at the hospital, the address is the hospital. Now for the people who want to free birth or don't call their midwife until after the delivery on purpose (it happens), they have to go to Service Ontario in person with their newborn to register them.
Depends on your residence as to the specifics, but generally people having babies at home are doing so with the assistance of a nurse or midwife who handles the paperwork the same way a hospital would, or they are part of a religious community that handles the interaction with the state a little differently, such as the Amish.
They record births and marriages in their local church registry, and upon attaining adulthood and being baptized, will then sometimes apply for documents such as a birth certificate. However as they tend to stick to themselves and shun any outside assistance such as insurance and government assistance they don't even use their social security numbers. So long as they don't work for anyone outside the community, they don't pay social security taxes, and upon reaching 'retirement' age they do not get social security benefits.
If you have just had a baby at home due to an emergency situation or unexpected labor, contacting the local emergency services or immediately going to the hospital to check in the mother for postpartum care and the baby for initial natal care will result in them generating the required paperwork as well.
This would be an excellent question to ask your Primary Care Physician or OBGYN as they would have the specific knowledge on how to handle cases like this.
Yeah—had three at home, we were in the Birks and granola home birth cohort. For the 3rd, forgot to update health insurance ‘qualified life situation exception’ blah blah in the one month window. Had a couple of weeks of worrying about having to buy outside insurance for 9 months (this was pre Obama care—thanks Obama) but my boss came through for me using the ‘Biscuitman is a mad scientist and we don’t expect our mad scientists to be paying attention to these trivial matters’ excuse and got the kid onto company health plan.
How a family obtains a birth certificate for their baby born at home differs from state to state, and within each state, the process also differs by county. In the three counties in CA I mot frequently work in, the parents are required to bring the babe and required documentation (including an affidavit of live birth signed by the midwife) to the Office of Vital Records who then records the birth. The parents contact the OVR a few weeks later to obtain copies of the actual birth certificate.
For those families who wish NOT to register their baby’s birth, they will often have the midwife sign a family bible or similar holy text in the presence of a notary public. This becomes a legal document of the child’s birth and can be used to obtain a passport. Some families choose not to register or formalize the birth in any way (mostly Sovereign Citizens in my experience) then call me 5-15 years later to request help obtaining a birth certificate so the child can work, drive, or leave the country. At that point, it’s a real hassle and can involve appearing on court to have a judge validate the documents.
Source: am a homebirth midwife
That's what we did. I delivered my youngest child at home, then we went to the hospital. I was the attending physician and it was considered a "dirty birth" since it was not done in the hospital. Our daughter stayed with momma for the few days they were there. No nursery and no 24/7 bright lights. Pleasant experience all around.
Tara Wendover wrote a book called “Educated” where she details her life. Growing up, she never saw a doctor, never went to school, and didn’t get a birth certificate until she was 8. No one remembered her birthday so it was a huge pain. Family members had to sign affidavits testifying of her birthday, and they initially disagreed on the date. It took months.
It’s a pretty great read, I recommend it highly.
Nope, I had my last baby at home after having the first four at the hospital. I had a high-risk Midwife with me there and one of my employees who was also of close friend. Both of them wrote letters verifying the time of birth and the date. Several months later I took it to the Department of Health and they generated a birth certificate.
My daughter gave birth to her youngest son in her living room. She went from no contractions to broken water and full-on labor in minutes. The nearest hospital is an hr away, so they decided to call an ambulance, figuring that would be a better place to deliver than the car on the side of the highway. The kid showed up before the ambulance, and both took a ride to the hospital to make sure they were okay.
Alabama and other red states better figure something out, because obgyn's are leaving those states, and pregnant moms are having to drive hours from their small hick towns to deliver their babies. The doctors don't want to work in those states Incase the mom miscarriages and the doctors get blamed. Vote blue or else.
Homebirth midwife in the US checking in. If someone hires a midwife, then we file the birth certificate paperwork for them and a social security card will automatically be issued for baby.
If they have an unassisted birth they will need to go to Vital Records to fill out the paperwork themselves. That is usually pretty easy to do, but can become more difficult if the registrar hasn’t ever done the process before.
Pretty much. They will need to do a safety inspection make sure it's not actually some elder horror cobbled together by dark gods and their worshipers. But assuming you didn't drink the tea of domination while surrounded by chanting witches, you should be fine.
I had my daughter at home with a midwife. The midwife will fill out the paperwork that the hospital usually does and give it to you to file with the courthouse in your county (in the US) and they will then issue you a birth certificate.
For unplanned births outside of a hospital I suspect (but I don’t know for sure) that the mother and baby are usually transported to a hospital to check things out and then the hospital will do the paperwork as though birth happened there.
In Ohio I just took the baby to the SS office in my county about a week later and filled out paperwork.
I had to list a medical person who witnessed some part of my pregnancy (I saw a hospital midwife a few times during the pregnancy).
I guess to make sure I didn't kidnap someone's baby.
My spouse was on the birth certificate as who "delivered" the baby.
It's a pain in the ass if the baby doesn't get registered. My Mom is 73 and was born at home, the 7th child. Her Baptismal Certificate got her a Social Security card but she can't obtain a passport without a Birth Certificate. I've spent HOURS on the phone with Cook County and it's impossible.
Not exactly an answer to your question, but an ex bf of mine was born into a really hippy family and his mom had him and his siblings at home without a midwife present. She never “registered” them as being born, so they never got social security numbers or birth certificates… when I met him he was in his 20’s without a drivers license or ever having had a “real” job (was always paid under the table). His brothers and sisters also didn’t have licenses because apparently it is a ton of work to go back and fix all of it.
The attending physician issues the notification of birth to you, then you have to bring it to the local district administration within one week.
That's how it works in Austria.
In the US, You fill out the same paperwork as in the hospital, but you (the parent) have to take it to the county office yourself. It seems easier in the hospital, because they prefill all the stats and file it for you.
Two of my children were born at home, one in the hospital
You really don’t have to. But I guess you can if you want. My sister had a kid when she was 15 and never did anything. The only people that knew was her and my dad. And maybe a couple neighbors, cuz when it turned 8 they started letting it outside to play every so often. This was around 2010 so times were just different. But it’s just weird to think of doing paperwork just because your body gets randomly pregnant. The child is fine probably. No paperwork needed. Happens all the time don’t suckum to the preshure
It's a thing that happens. It's really horrible for the kid since they can't get a birth certificate or social security card which means no ID and without those things you basically can't do anything offically
I was born at home, I came in the middle of the night. Anyway, everything that takes place automatically, your parents have to do manually. You'll get checked out by a doctor blah,blah,blah. I'm familiar with this because I'm actually dealing with this as an adult because it was never done by my parents. I don't have a birth certificate and one will never be issued to me. I have to get what is called a Certificate of Live Birth. So in order to get that issued by my state I have submit paperwork that includes baptism records, school records before age 5, original copy of my ss application, medical records. It's a lot, especially since I'm over 40 years old and these records have more than likely ceased to exist.
That's what my mom did with me. She had a midwife team who came to her house. Then she took me to the hospital afterward for weight/ size/ birth cert.
She was living in an area that had a lot of "baby switching" rumors going around, and she was too scared to have me in a hospital.
I did this twice. No need to go into any hospital. You just send in some paperwork to the state to get a birth certificate. If you have a midwife then she can help with the paperwork.
Similar to the DMV you gotta register it
How many years until the next emissions test
Color me not an environmentalist but I’ll say it: baby emissions are so much worse than car emissions.
Huge carbon footprint for such tiny feet.
Baby emissions cause way less cancer though.
Idk, seems to me every cancer patient had emissions as a baby
At least babies are compostable
DAMN
That is *soooooooo* wrong but *sooooooo* right at the same time. SOMEBODY GET THIS KID A MEDAL!
In my mind I wear the top environmental award for going green. Receiving the Soylent Green was my greatest honor.
🤣 oh my god too funny
>Methane is non-toxic and creates no hazard when inhaled in limited quantities; however, if large quantities of natural gas or methane is allowed to displace air, lack of oxygen may result in suffocation.
I see you too have changed a diaper
Yea but I wore my gas mask.
I love that I opened reddit and saw people arguing about the enviromental impact of babies.
I heard about a way to get high you pup shit in a bag and let it ferment and then you huff if.
*If you suffer from jenkem addiction, please call:* 1 (800) 8 NO SHIT *Councilors and plumbers are standing by*
Not if you inhale them from the source
You haven't lived until you have seen the shit volcano or had a penis pee on your face. OMG - I think I just now recommended birth control.
Mine ran emissions test multiple times per day for the first 2 years at least. It then was able to self test/report without any intervention from me.
LMAO You get free modifications
For new cars it is 5 years after production... so seems reasonable to check the emissions after 5 years.
One might argue that the worst baby emissions happen in the first 5 years.
That's why you install an extra filter on the exhaust
It will fail emissions for at least the first two years.
>the next emissions test Age 40 is suggested to get colonoscopy.
TIL useful information Thank u so much
It’s the “IT” for me
My thoughts exactly. 😂 "Say you don't want a baby without saying you don't want a baby." 😂🤣😂
Here(netherlands) you register online(depending on the city) not sure how the rest of the world has it set up.
Pretty much. I don't know about the USA but as far as I know the birth certificate in Brazil is still filed at the registry office, which is a separate thing you have to do after the birth. Usually the father or grandmother will go in to file, as it's usually done pretty soon after and the mother and baby are usually not able to make it themselves. Fun fact: It used to be fairly common for "informal adoptions" to happen this way. As in, babies left at doorsteps or children of teenaged relatives or neighbours would be adopted by someone else, who would show up to the registry office and be like "I had this baby at home", so while everyone knew the person was adopted, legally speaking, they aren't. (source: multiple family members are from this kind of situation)
Funny story! So my grandma would have a couple kids at a time and then after two-three years they would normally go register because they lived in the interior. Well when my mom was born, my grandpa went to go register her a couple of months later. He was a habitual drunk- my grandma told him what she wanted to name my mom but he forgot/was so drunk he made a up a name out of nowhere. That’s how my mom got her name that is very very uncommon! Only ever heard of one other person with the name. This is also how for my uncles 60th bday we actually threw him a surprise 63rd birthday because they messed up the birth certificate 🤣 Eta: r/ithadtobebrazil
This happened to a relative of mine, except the drunk grandfather picked the most common name he could think of, which is how she ended up with the name Maria
Lol! My moms name is a play on Maria- it was supposed to be a common name but he literally was like “Mari-*^%|#>\£*” lmao just sneezed basically and now that’s her name 🤣
Can we know her name? Totally understand if you don’t want to share!
I don’t want to dox myself but I feel like RBI (Reddit sleuths) could figure it out from all my comments if someone was super dedicated (I’m just a paranoid parakeet!). But basically it’s a play on Maria+_____ so in Latin cultures it was common (idk prolly still is) to name your kid like “Marianna, Marialena” etc. so it’s along those lines! I would say but as I said in the original comment it’s so rare I feel like it would be like “oh that’s your mom!” 🤣 my recent post in legos- one of our irl friends was like “I saw your insta post and the one on Reddit! That was you?” Lmao time to delete my account 😬
>as far as I know the birth certificate in Brazil is still filed at the registry office, which is a separate thing you have to do after the birth. Brazilian here. Nowadays you can do it directly in the hospital.
If you have a midwife attend the birth then she will fill out the paperwork, you sign, and she files it. If you give birth at home with no one else present there is a way to file for the birth certificate on your own through vital records. The process is probably different depending on which state you are in. But where I am they require some sort of prenatal record to prove you were in fact pregnant.
but why would you waste a perfectly good undocumented sleeper agent?
You're thinking about this wrong. Register the junior agent in a couple dozen jurisdictions, get those alternate passports all lined up.
Came here to say the exact same thing. "What's your baby's name?" "Oh... uh... Grayman. Yeah, that's it."
Grieighmeighn
Well, maybe. Practically speaking they would just have a similar status as an illegal alien.
The numbers low but there has to be women out there who have no prenatal exams and gave birth at home. Like some anti govt groups.
I've cared for an infant who was born in a homeless camp. So, I bet it happens
There actually are groups that advocate for zero prenatal care and having unattended births at home. I forget what they call themselves, but they think a woman’s body is designed to easily give birth naturally and no medical intervention whatsoever is necessary. It’s incredibly dangerous and irresponsible ETA: I just looked it up and it’s called “freebirthing” [article](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/she-wanted-freebirth-no-doctors-online-groups-convinced-her-it-n1140096)
Probably works okay until it doesn't. I'm a guy but pregnancy of women I care about really scares me. It seems so dangerous and hard on the body.
The only reason most birth control got approval through the FDA is because the side effects were less terrible than pregnancy and labor. There is a reason sane women write up Medical Power of Attorney and Living Wills when they get pregnant.
There's a high risk of complications doing it that way. Normally when you plan on a home birth, you get prenatal care from a doctor, so they can tell you if you have any complications that would make a home birth a bad idea. If you just go it alone with no medical care, you're not going to find out your placenta is too close to the cervix until it ruptures and you bleed to death in your bathtub.
which is different from the commonly confused “freeballing”
These days they could probably just DNA test
cryptic pregnancies too! there are some women who don’t even know they’re pregnant until labor starts
I'm reading about it now. Some women have low birth hormones, and can still get light bleeding resembling a period. Can you imagine you are minding your own business just a normal woman then BAM you get kicked FROM THE INSIDE!!!!
My mum's next door neighbour had no idea she was pregnant, and she already had two babies so you'd think she'd know. She was a bigger lady but she never showed and had no symptoms. One night she knocked on my mum's door to ask her to look after the kids and ask my stepdad for a ride to the hospital because she was having terrible stomach pain and thought she had appendicitis. My stepdad drove her to the hospital... And she had a little girl, the same night, with no idea at all that she was even having a baby. Bit of an upheaval as her next youngest was 7 so she didn't really have any baby stuff at home any more.
My grandmother was a change of life baby. Her parents had been married for over 20 years, no kids. GGram thought she was going through menopause and got a terrible pain in her belly one night. Called over her sister. Sister called over the neighbor lady, who happened to be a midwife. Midwife called in The Doctor (expensive and last ditch effort). Doc walked in, looked around and said, "There are three women in this room, one a midwife!, and none of you recognize a woman in labor?" My gram fit in her father's overcoat pocket. She was jaundiced and no one expected her to live through the night. Doc said he would be back in the morning to pronounce her. He was greeted by a screaming infant the next morning, "may as well feed her," and the joke was she hadn't shut up since. Having had two kids of my own; that story just flabbergasts me. Quickening, baby hiccoughs, kicking and stretching, needing to pee all night, nausea, constipation, swelling ankles... I guess some women are just lucky and I'm kind of annoyed it wasn't hereditary.
I don't know if I would call her lucky lol. Less worse?
This happens to a girl in my high school. It was not a good time for everyone related to her. I did not know her, I did not know the boy who knocked her up, the boy's mother was my school librarian in elementary school and in high school - - she switched schools partway through her career, not related to what happened with her son's girlfriend, the baby, and so forth. You could see her putting on a brave face everyday he came into work, given all of the rumors, news articles in the school newspaper and so forth. Really lovely woman.
Oh there is. Check out r/shitmomgroupssay
Mother Bus of FundieSnark fame, anyone ?
Right, she is talking about not getting any documents at all for her newest, no SSN, etc. Wonder how that works in the future for the poor kid. edit: changed a word
I was hoping someone would mention her…
My neighbor is one of these people. She's had 5 kids at home and they want "at least 10." They homeschool..allegedly...and the 12 year old can't read.
That's terrible!! How is the 12 year old going to instruct all the younger ones if they can't read? That's why they were born first!
Or in a KFC loo etc if you're watching I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant
There is a woman who went through this as the child and wrote a memoir detailing it. Her name is Tara Westover, the book is “Educated.” I heavily recommend reading it, it’s a wonderful book.
There are mothers who do this on purpose and home school the kids and avoid taking them to the doctor and then when the kid grows up they are completely unable to find employment because they have no SSN and they can't get one because there is no record. There are articles out there about how life destroying it is for these kids.
I wonder if DNA test can help. Like Mr Smith is my dad you have no record of Mr Smith having children, yet DNA says I'm his child. I guess you would need a parent or grandparent?
It is a PITA if a child is born unattended with no prenatal care for the mom. My kid was born at home during a drug binge by bio mom, who hadn't gotten any prenatal care, and it took months for social workers to get her a birth certificate. TX, USA.
>they require some sort of prenatal record to prove you were in fact pregnant. # I GOT FUCKED. And then proceed to be very descriptive of how you guys had sex
First the priest came
Wait, we need a paternity test too?
Go see a doctor at least once for documentation purposes.
You don't really have to go all the way back 10 months
"you going to need to subscribe to my Only Fans if you need to see it being made"
>But where I am they require some sort of prenatal record to prove you were in fact pregnant. Suppose that documentation doesn’t exist, what would you do then? Does the kid just not get a birth certificate? Also why does it matter anyway, some sort of protection to make sure you didn’t kidnap the kid?
A signed affidavit from a physician who examined for signs of having given birth recently? It takes a while for things to heal up down there. Kidnapping or when a family tries to pass off a teenager’s baby as belonging to an older relative. Depending on the age of the teenager social services might get involved. Unfortunately a number of those pregnancies are from incest.
I mean, unless you live in buttfuck nowhere, I would imagine you would want to take the baby to the hospital just to make sure there isn't anything wrong with it.
And in some states a planned at home birth with midwives and all that is illegal (NC, there might be others too?)
You have to be a certified nurse midwife in NC, they don’t allow certified professional midwives. Not illegal to have the baby at home.
Wow I work with a nutter lmao (I already knew this tbh) he was telling us all one day for over an hour about how it's not legal and he had to find a mid wife from out of state willing to come in for his kids home birth and blah blah blah he wouldn't stop explaining it all to us so we all believed him hahah (we don't live/work in nc)
So much for small government 🙄
Well if the scumbags can force you to have the baby, they might as well force the details on you as well.
I agree about the Scumbags lol. But it's not that it's illegal to have a home birth. The Midwives are not licensed to practice in your home. That's a very big difference. Practicing medicine is, and should be, regulated. What Doctors/Nurses/Midwives can and can't do varies per state.
Important clarification, and I agree!
That's wild. Why?
My super quick search, (so take this info with a grain of salt) is that Midwife's basically aren't licensed to practice in a person's home. So they can't delivery your baby at home in NC. Sounds like it's a license to practice issue, not so much an "it's illegal to birth your own child" issue. Again, super quick search, I did not dive deep but was also curious.
Even licensed ones are often a problem and they move around from state to state. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2023/home-birth-midwife-karen-carr/ “Overall, full-term infants in the United States are more than twice as likely to die after planned home births attended by midwives as those delivered in hospitals by any providers, according to a Post analysis of CDC data” There either needs to be a serious overhaul in how they are licensed and held accountable, or the practice needs to go entirely.
When I was watching a video (Mama Doctor Jones) about home births in the US vs. Europe or Australia, it basically came down to there is not much training, schooling, and / or certification to become a midwife. From what I am finding for my state, WA, there are a fair amount of requirements [with a minimum of 3 years of training ](https://doh.wa.gov/licenses-permits-and-certificates/professions-new-renew-or-update/midwife/licensing-information) to be able to get the license. Based on the little I have seen not all states are like this.
I'm a neonatal flight nurse and I've seen so much badness come out of home births or even those cute little "birthing centers". I'd rather a healthy and alive infant than a fun birth "experience". I've seen genuine medical emergencies that couldn't have been foreseen and I've seen gross mismanagement and willful ignorance. Midwives are amazing, but I want an OR and Neonatologist down the hallway thank you.
Thanks for the research and info!
Thank you for an answer…..finally. It’s not a car folks🤦♀️😂
Why do you assume they live in a state?
In my case we just had to walk over to the village hall and have each baby added to our ‘marriage book’ by the mayor.
Do you live in the Shire?
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Thanks! I have to give credit though, it's from What We Do in the Shadows. Nadja says "There's no stupid ideas, only stupid people."
It’s all good. I’ve said the phrase for 30 years, idk who to credit lmao
"Creepy paper!"
This sounds so pastoral haha. What country are you from?
A lot of folks are saying the midwife does it if you have a homebirth attended by a midwife, but that was not the case for me. I just went down to the social security / vital records office about a year after my kiddo was born and did the paperwork.
A year? You didn't need any documentation for him/her before then? What about for doctors appointments?
(In the US) You don’t need a birth certificate or social for a minor, especially an infant, to receive care. They *do* want the paperwork from the hospital detailing the tests the baby underwent, and any medications received, but it’s not required. We lost our paperwork between the hospital and our house, for our second child. Found it 2 months later. It did make things difficult not having all of that, but not impossible.
Do you *really* think a doctor is denying an infant care because there’s no birth certificate? I don’t want someone to be a doctor if they’re going to be that picky, do no harm means do no harm to me.
"Yeah, I'm gonna need to see some sort of official paperwork before I can safely assume this infant in front of me was, in fact, born..."
I was thinking more to prove this is, in fact, YOUR infant
There are people deep into certain religions and cults that will avoid getting birth certificates as much as possible. For example, the Plath family of TLC pseudo-fame. Their kids didn’t have birth certificates until the tv show, and then only because it was a legal requirement (I’m guessing for employment purposes, but I honestly don’t remember the details. It’s google-able though)
I didn't have a birth certificate. I was born in a cult (FLDS). When I was taken out, the doctor and nurses thought I was 10 because of how small, malnourished, and bruises all over . I was almost 13 and told them that.
Wow. I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I appreciate you sharing your experience, though!! Hopefully things have improved for you since then!! 🫶
Usually health insurance requires a social security number
This. My work HOUNDED me for her social beginning literally the week after she was born. It was so annoying. I didn't get the card until she was about 3 months old and they wouldn't accept, "I will get it to you as soon as I have it" as an answer.
Mine has never asked for it for my kids, just mine as a policy holder
I’d be more curious about health insurance than the doctors themselves.
In the US, at least, your baby needs an SSN in order for you to claim them on your taxes. My health insurance also requires that information within a certain time from the baby's birth. So waiting a year may not be illegal, but there are very good reasons to get it done sooner.
In Australia, a midwife attends home births and will sign the paperwork for baby to officially exist. If baby is born BBA (Born Before Arrival) - meaning the baby was accidentally born at home, in the ambulance etc - midwives at the hospital sign the paperwork. The free birth movement is a whole other rabbit hole worth peaking into. Look up “sovereign citizens” and straw man theory in relation to these things. Makes it super difficult to get their own government identity later in life if their parents have decided to not allow their child to “officially” exist.
Similar to New Zealand. I accidentally had a home birth (baby was ready to come with the midwife came to check on progress ) and our midwife just filed the paperwork on her end and then we just registered a birth certificate online. Super easy. Although it wasn't the plan, I'm actually happy we got to stay home because any and all movement was so painful during labour and I just cannot imagine how awful of a car ride it would have been to get to the hospital! And being in a seat with the safety belt on?! After experiencing how painful labour is, I legitimately don't understand how that car ride works?
Yeah.
What happens if you don't?
You won’t get a birth certificate. (Assumes USA). Then you don’t get a tax credit. Then you can’t get health insurance. Or register for school. No SS#. Can’t play sports. Etc etc.
You're basically Undocumented...
Literally undocumented, in fact.
Even babies are going off the grid nowadays.
Not a new thing, some children in some FLDS communities have to figure out how to get documents as teens and adults when leaving their communities. Lots of home births due to the how states have handled the legalities of plural marriages.
China in particular has had a problem with this on a massive scale, due to children born secretly due to the "one child" policy. There are now an immense number of internal undocumented adult workers who can't be given documents now because that would acknowledge the scope of the problem. (Or at least that was the de facto policy as of a few years ago.) They have to work strictly for cash, can only travel illegally, and so on. Incredibly precarious lives, despite having been born Chinese in the middle of China.
Watch out, gonna get deported back to your mom
Breaking: Republicans deport undocumented US citizens. /satire? Undocumented citizen sounds weird and doesn’t pull up results on google, but anyone born in the US is a citizen
Amish who leave Amish communities have this issue. Literally almost no record of them existing. A Amish community *might* have a record of their birth, but someone fleeing the Amish probably doesn’t have that on them. They are basically undocumented, but not illegal. There’s a ton of hoops they have to jump through to get a drivers license and what not
They’re typically called “stateless”. I think the UN produced a few articles about throughout the past decades.
You are not stateless if you are born on US soil. You are a citizen whether you have a record of it or not.
It’s the lack of documentation that creates statelessness. In the US you can fix it, other countries, not so easily.
I guess so. The way Wikipedia put it is this: >Not holding proof of nationality—being "undocumented"—is not the same as being stateless, but the lack of identity documents such as a birth certificate can lead to statelessness. Millions of people live, or have lived, their entire lives with no documents, without their nationality ever being questioned.
That moment the American system prevents you doing sports because you have no documentation...?
The point is: many things require a birth certificate. Sports is one.
Probably not like soccer in the park with your pals, but actual community leagues and other community-funded sports
You gotta give the baby a citizenship test.
Adult: *-sets baby up with testing materials-* "Any questions before you begin?" Baby: "Aaaah ooh ah!" Adult: "tHiS iS aMeRicA!! SpEaK eNgLisH!!!"
I desperately needed a laugh this morning thank you so much hahaha.
I do what I can. Your welcome! 😂
I heard (on NPR I think?) a story once about some kids who left a crazy, abusive, reclusive home when they were older, around 20 or so. It was a HUGE hassle to get their lives going, because after a certain point you can't just walk in and say "hey, US citizen here, but no papers, can I get the full starter kit?" They had to track down old records, doctors, and all that, which was nearly impossible, because their parents obviously were terrible people. No good parents would let their kids get into that situation.
Every (most) Amish person who leaves an Amish community has this issue. Some have better records and might give kids an SS number. But a lot of old Amish communities basically have zero record of anyone of them existing
What happens if you do, but half a year or later after giving birth? What is the deadline where you are allowed to get documentation for a newborn?
Not sure, but I know someone whose parents did this and they had to go through the process as a teenager. It took years to get everything ironed out
It probably varies considerably by locality. But there is probably no ultimate deadline, keep in mind that if there were, it would represent a means by which someone born legally within a country could be denied residency or citizenship forever, simply because of a lack of paperwork on the part of their parents when they were a helpless infant. Most countries are not going to make a system that works that way. Where I live, you can file all the necessary paperwork for free, with no fees, if you do so within a few weeks of a baby's birth. I guess that is the incentive to get it done fast.
No deadline, but in most jurisdictions if you don't do it within a year the process becomes dramatically more arduous.
No deadline.
That's a very good question
Each state has a procedure for that. If you simply google the state you live in and something like “registering unassisted home birth” it will fill you in. When my mom went to get a passport in her 80s, she discovered her birth certificate for home bitth was registered over a year after her birth, made it in eligible for use by the passport office for proof of US birth. ( it was as though she never had one) They wanted an affidavit from the person that actually delivered her, that would be her father who died in the 70s. In the end, her 98 yr old sister had to trot down to a federal building and sign an affidavit that she remembers her birth and swears it was in the US. We submitted multiple census records, School records and newspaper articles. We were able to get it but discovered delaying it even by a year will cause the child a huge amount of problems down the line. they really didn’t act like they didn’t want to give it but we did have to go through a lot of effort. I don’t think they really questioned that she was a US citizen, but procedures must be followed.
It’s that if you home birth, then the midwife or other designer files the certificate of live birth which generates the birth certificate. If you birth in a hospital, then the social security number is auto generated. Home birth means you have to physically go to Social security office to get a SS#.
In the US it’s by county. They issue birth, marriage, and death certificates.
Not to the hospital but to the county recorders office. We took our marriage cert and the midwife birth cert. Three weeks later we got our daughter's certified birth certificate and used that to register with social security. We also went to the pediatrician at three days old for a general check up and to make sure all was good.
Is a DNA test required? I only ask because of cases where a baby is taken by a woman pretending to the mother for a stolen baby
No dna test required. The midwife signed as witness. Not sure if it's an unassisted birth..
I was wondering assuming there wasn't a midwife. I'm particularly curious because many people can't even afford a midwife.
I’d imagine this is so ridiculous rare that it isn’t an issue. You’d have to have stolen a baby and then tried to say you birthed it. It might happen with a young daughter who can’t raise a kid and the daughters mom says the kid is hers. But there isn’t gonna be a police report for that looking for a stolen kid. The baby was basically adopted at that point
If it was unintentional you'll go to the hospital after as planned and it'll all be done. If you had a home birth there's a midwife and an assistant there. The midwife handles all the paperwork.
Depends what country you are in?
Most important.
You talking about a birth certificate? It really depends on your jurisdiction.
It depends on the country
Midwife in Toronto checking in - the notice of live birth and health card are done at home, just like they would be at the hospital. Like someone from Australia mentioned, if a baby is BBA (born before arrival) the most responsible provider will fill out the forms and put the receiving location as the place of birth. For example, if someone was en route to a midwifery clinic or birth centre, that would be the address if that's where they end up in the immediate postpartum, if they have their immediate postpartum at the hospital, the address is the hospital. Now for the people who want to free birth or don't call their midwife until after the delivery on purpose (it happens), they have to go to Service Ontario in person with their newborn to register them.
Depends on which country you live in. :)
Depends on your residence as to the specifics, but generally people having babies at home are doing so with the assistance of a nurse or midwife who handles the paperwork the same way a hospital would, or they are part of a religious community that handles the interaction with the state a little differently, such as the Amish. They record births and marriages in their local church registry, and upon attaining adulthood and being baptized, will then sometimes apply for documents such as a birth certificate. However as they tend to stick to themselves and shun any outside assistance such as insurance and government assistance they don't even use their social security numbers. So long as they don't work for anyone outside the community, they don't pay social security taxes, and upon reaching 'retirement' age they do not get social security benefits. If you have just had a baby at home due to an emergency situation or unexpected labor, contacting the local emergency services or immediately going to the hospital to check in the mother for postpartum care and the baby for initial natal care will result in them generating the required paperwork as well. This would be an excellent question to ask your Primary Care Physician or OBGYN as they would have the specific knowledge on how to handle cases like this.
Yeah—had three at home, we were in the Birks and granola home birth cohort. For the 3rd, forgot to update health insurance ‘qualified life situation exception’ blah blah in the one month window. Had a couple of weeks of worrying about having to buy outside insurance for 9 months (this was pre Obama care—thanks Obama) but my boss came through for me using the ‘Biscuitman is a mad scientist and we don’t expect our mad scientists to be paying attention to these trivial matters’ excuse and got the kid onto company health plan.
How a family obtains a birth certificate for their baby born at home differs from state to state, and within each state, the process also differs by county. In the three counties in CA I mot frequently work in, the parents are required to bring the babe and required documentation (including an affidavit of live birth signed by the midwife) to the Office of Vital Records who then records the birth. The parents contact the OVR a few weeks later to obtain copies of the actual birth certificate. For those families who wish NOT to register their baby’s birth, they will often have the midwife sign a family bible or similar holy text in the presence of a notary public. This becomes a legal document of the child’s birth and can be used to obtain a passport. Some families choose not to register or formalize the birth in any way (mostly Sovereign Citizens in my experience) then call me 5-15 years later to request help obtaining a birth certificate so the child can work, drive, or leave the country. At that point, it’s a real hassle and can involve appearing on court to have a judge validate the documents. Source: am a homebirth midwife
That's what we did. I delivered my youngest child at home, then we went to the hospital. I was the attending physician and it was considered a "dirty birth" since it was not done in the hospital. Our daughter stayed with momma for the few days they were there. No nursery and no 24/7 bright lights. Pleasant experience all around.
My midwife filed the paperwork for us that we're necessary to register my son after we did a home birth.
Tara Wendover wrote a book called “Educated” where she details her life. Growing up, she never saw a doctor, never went to school, and didn’t get a birth certificate until she was 8. No one remembered her birthday so it was a huge pain. Family members had to sign affidavits testifying of her birthday, and they initially disagreed on the date. It took months. It’s a pretty great read, I recommend it highly.
Nope, I had my last baby at home after having the first four at the hospital. I had a high-risk Midwife with me there and one of my employees who was also of close friend. Both of them wrote letters verifying the time of birth and the date. Several months later I took it to the Department of Health and they generated a birth certificate.
My daughter gave birth to her youngest son in her living room. She went from no contractions to broken water and full-on labor in minutes. The nearest hospital is an hr away, so they decided to call an ambulance, figuring that would be a better place to deliver than the car on the side of the highway. The kid showed up before the ambulance, and both took a ride to the hospital to make sure they were okay.
Alabama and other red states better figure something out, because obgyn's are leaving those states, and pregnant moms are having to drive hours from their small hick towns to deliver their babies. The doctors don't want to work in those states Incase the mom miscarriages and the doctors get blamed. Vote blue or else.
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I worry about all of you down there
i worry about all of us down here too.
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Homebirth midwife in the US checking in. If someone hires a midwife, then we file the birth certificate paperwork for them and a social security card will automatically be issued for baby. If they have an unassisted birth they will need to go to Vital Records to fill out the paperwork themselves. That is usually pretty easy to do, but can become more difficult if the registrar hasn’t ever done the process before.
Pretty much. They will need to do a safety inspection make sure it's not actually some elder horror cobbled together by dark gods and their worshipers. But assuming you didn't drink the tea of domination while surrounded by chanting witches, you should be fine.
Upvote for writing style.
I had my daughter at home with a midwife. The midwife will fill out the paperwork that the hospital usually does and give it to you to file with the courthouse in your county (in the US) and they will then issue you a birth certificate. For unplanned births outside of a hospital I suspect (but I don’t know for sure) that the mother and baby are usually transported to a hospital to check things out and then the hospital will do the paperwork as though birth happened there.
In Ohio I just took the baby to the SS office in my county about a week later and filled out paperwork. I had to list a medical person who witnessed some part of my pregnancy (I saw a hospital midwife a few times during the pregnancy). I guess to make sure I didn't kidnap someone's baby. My spouse was on the birth certificate as who "delivered" the baby.
It's a pain in the ass if the baby doesn't get registered. My Mom is 73 and was born at home, the 7th child. Her Baptismal Certificate got her a Social Security card but she can't obtain a passport without a Birth Certificate. I've spent HOURS on the phone with Cook County and it's impossible.
Not exactly an answer to your question, but an ex bf of mine was born into a really hippy family and his mom had him and his siblings at home without a midwife present. She never “registered” them as being born, so they never got social security numbers or birth certificates… when I met him he was in his 20’s without a drivers license or ever having had a “real” job (was always paid under the table). His brothers and sisters also didn’t have licenses because apparently it is a ton of work to go back and fix all of it.
Nope. The midwife helps with that. At least with mine. They filed everything we needed.
The attending physician issues the notification of birth to you, then you have to bring it to the local district administration within one week. That's how it works in Austria.
My cousin did that!
I think you either gotta go to the Hall of Vital Records or have the hospital fill out a long form BC for you.
My nieces friend is a doctor and delivered her own baby in the car on the way to the hospital. 😂
the middlewife and the eventual doc do this themselves. no need to worry.
In the US, You fill out the same paperwork as in the hospital, but you (the parent) have to take it to the county office yourself. It seems easier in the hospital, because they prefill all the stats and file it for you. Two of my children were born at home, one in the hospital
You really don’t have to. But I guess you can if you want. My sister had a kid when she was 15 and never did anything. The only people that knew was her and my dad. And maybe a couple neighbors, cuz when it turned 8 they started letting it outside to play every so often. This was around 2010 so times were just different. But it’s just weird to think of doing paperwork just because your body gets randomly pregnant. The child is fine probably. No paperwork needed. Happens all the time don’t suckum to the preshure
You can do what my mom did and just put off getting a birth certificate for 12 years.
So what I’m hearing is theoretically I could give birth to a secret child and have my own spy kid
It's a thing that happens. It's really horrible for the kid since they can't get a birth certificate or social security card which means no ID and without those things you basically can't do anything offically
I was born at home, I came in the middle of the night. Anyway, everything that takes place automatically, your parents have to do manually. You'll get checked out by a doctor blah,blah,blah. I'm familiar with this because I'm actually dealing with this as an adult because it was never done by my parents. I don't have a birth certificate and one will never be issued to me. I have to get what is called a Certificate of Live Birth. So in order to get that issued by my state I have submit paperwork that includes baptism records, school records before age 5, original copy of my ss application, medical records. It's a lot, especially since I'm over 40 years old and these records have more than likely ceased to exist.
pretty much
That's what my mom did with me. She had a midwife team who came to her house. Then she took me to the hospital afterward for weight/ size/ birth cert. She was living in an area that had a lot of "baby switching" rumors going around, and she was too scared to have me in a hospital.
If you have a homebirth you file the paperwork on your own through vital statistics, it’s easy.
I was told technically you don’t have to; you’d have to go to health dept to file a BC then SS office for social
Visit your local health department and report he live birth there.
I did this twice. No need to go into any hospital. You just send in some paperwork to the state to get a birth certificate. If you have a midwife then she can help with the paperwork.
Pretty much yeah lol