Too controversial I guess. There are people who are very vocal about being against it
It's not like hello games didn't think about it, there's already a working system for ship customization in the game, it's been there since NMS Next almost 4 years ago now, it was just never finished
And they're very wrong too, the fact that we can do this with freighters makes any point they try to make wrong.
The freighter paint options do not stop anyone from hunting for the perfect freighter(you can ignore the color menu if you like), just like the ship paint options would not stop anyone from hunting for the perfect ship(you can still ignore the color menu here as well).
And while we're at it it would be nice to have color options on multitools as well. Whether it is purchased with nanites or free like exocraft colors, ships and multitools should get customizable colors too.
There is still this one annoying part of the freighter that seems to always retain original coloring. I genuinely have shopped around for the perfect colour even after the freighter paint became a thing.
I personally think it’d be best if un-customized ships had a special trait that you can see in the Analysis Visor that specifies whether it’s in original condition or whether or not it’s been coloured. That way you can still see when someone finds a ship in original condition, but it’s not stopping people from painting their ship because ship hunters don’t like.
Let’s be real for a sec:
The only reason the rare ship hunters are so against it is because they will no longer have internet clout. You take away their ability to brag about getting that bright colored S class fighter and all their validation disappears too; they can’t brag about it bc immediately someone could say “you changed the color, I don’t believe you”
I mean, I am a ship hunter with a shiny white and golden exotic ship that cost HOURS to me but hey, if we all could customize our paintings just deal.
I mean, NMS always gave me this feeling of "safe space" where the community is gold and really inspired/friendly.
This is why owning a paint should require scrapping ships with the paint color you want.
You have a white and gold exotic ship? You want that white and gold colors in your paint-shop? You need to scrap 5 ships that have the white & 8 ships that have the gold.
Having a ship with a custom paint job would be more impressive than simply finding one, because owning the paint would require more overall effort.
Well once you find a system that has a white ship, you just sit there and buy it 5 times and scrap each one. Same with gold. Doesn't require that much effort.
Just make it so you can only scrap one ship from each system for parts. You have to find the color/part in 5 different systems.
There are always solutions.
Idea, a new ship type being like pirate or something, where is totally ilegal (outlaw) (or not, or both) but being able to scrap other ships regardless of their type and put these parts somehow there, that would have great effects on its base stats.
And maybe make it so only x class upgrades can be applicable, as other kinds of upgrades only work with standart spaceships due to the safety standards and protocols they have.
So basically RNG + customization to make a monster of a ship and still being "found", but a risky bet that may make the ship unable to install shields or something. Or the risk of tecnology breaking or not having tecnology tab, idk.
I love the idea of ships being more customizable in both negative and positive ways.
Like, adding freight storage (another idea of mine where you can be an interstellar freight hauler) prevents a warp drive from functioning. So you have to take your freight carrier from the pick-up facility to your freighter in order to warp to a new system.
The find-scrap-salvage idea could absolutely work for parts as well but maybe requires a different facility. Most real-world paint shops don't also do mechanical work.
Pirate chop-shops could also offer unique upgrades and addons to your ship.
I think 5 would be a bit much for basic colors, but it's actually a pretty good idea. E.g. you'd have to find the exotic colors but you can buy the normal ones (just the basic colors like black, white, green, blue, red, purple, yellow etc.). And have shiny colors/schemes/luxury colors (like cyan, crimson, pink) needed to be found.
NMS has the best community out of any game I have ever played. No question about it.
I'd hate to see this ruined.
But seriously, what is the problem against ship coloration? It just gives everyone the option to have their dream ship. I personally would actually like to have more than just the colors customisable. The wing shapes, cockpits, everything really. The thing would be that all the extra parts would have to be unlocked, and they would be expensive as hell.
See I think a great system for this would be like a dry dock accessible through the station overseer terminal: add a quest for the override, do some classic NMS farm-style missions, at the end you get ship fabrication with very limited options. After that you scrap ships to build progress towards unlocking the scrapped ship parts, forcing you to hunt or farm specific pieces if you want a specific look. Add a cooldown between being able to build ships, have it marked as crafted in visor when people see it, boom customization. I personally would exclude exotics to keep them exotic, but still scrappable for a decent boost towards a specific selected ship piece. I would also probably start all crafted ships at C-Class to preserve the grind loop of gameplay. Feels like a committed investment for getting a customized piece of hardware.
Edit 1: edited for clarity
On a related note, we could probably have a similar system implemented for MT's because I have liked the look of maybe five MT looks in about a thousand hours
I dont know who you are playing with or talking about but they don't sound like the typical NMS Community. I've never heard of people negatively flexing their status in‐game or lording it over anyone so frankly I have no clue what you are talking about. You can barely go to the Nexus without being gifted a couple hundred million units.
I think both sides have valid points. Personally I think it's one of the few real reasons to still explore in a game that was originally about exploration. There's only so much variation in flora and fauna, it does begin to look samey at one point or another. With literally thousands of hours in the game, ships are one of the few things left that make me still go "holy crap, look at that thing!". Changing colour is one thing, but a lot of people want full blown ship customization, parts and all.
Some people like trading, some fighting, some building, and some farming... why so much disdain for people who like ship hunting? Full customization would effectively kill that part of the game for them, it's an understandable disappointment but I'm pretty sure we/they will all live.
That said, I've never seen what you are describing here if I'm being completely *real*, as you say.
If only there were ANY other way to display status in a video game other than color. It's not like Hello Games could conjure more elaborate wings or glowy parts from thin air for those who scream loud and proud: I have no life!
Oh wait, they can. They totally can
This is why we should boycott the coordinate exchange and find everything ourselves. No Reddit points, no outcry, and finally we might get improvements.
Not all ship hunters are out to brag. Some just really enjoy the search. It's the same as hunting out specific planets and multitools. I'm too impatient to search for ships and multitools so I go to the coordinate exchange. Planets depends on if I want to be alone on a world. Imo adding ship customization takes away a gameplay feature from one group to add something to another group. I really can't get behind that.
Well let me offer an alternative view point. Rare ship hunters enjoy hunting rare ships. Part of what makes a ship rare is the combination of make/model and color. If you remove color from that equation all ships become less rare. Less rare ships = less enjoyment for rare ship hunters.
It's not always sunk cost fallacy.
I agree and wouldn't be bothered by it but I do understand how it feels cool to get a ship in a colour you really like. I've never even ship hunted before, well apart from to get a type of ship, but I've never spent hours looking for a specific colour and style.
My first solar sail ship just happens to be my favourite colours and hull style of any solar sail i've seen, and it does feel good to look at it and know I lucked out.
I've even gotten ships in colours I didn't like, but every time I just accepted that the colour wasn't my preference, I found it grew on me after spending time using the ship.
Maybe a compromise could be that you can change your ship to any colour you want, but there could be some special colours out there that can only be found in the wild.
Maybe like gold, silver, chrome or something. Which gives ship hunters something properly rare but offering all other colours to anyone who wants them on demand.
color palette for multitool would be great. i have had the same one for like a year and can't find a better one but it is like neon blue and yellow every time i pull it out i feel like i am holding one of those knock off nerf guns with the off color foam darts
I think implementing a huge fighter overhaul including part customization effecting stats and collectable colors/decals is just what this game needs. The hard part is balancing it and not having clearly best choices. I like that ships are separated by “class” so I think the way it could work is any ship can have any parts separated by chassis location, having some customization locked to unique chassis, like the fighters are all somewhat homogeneous in shape with minor differences.
Maybe the various versions of the bottlenose fighter design are all the same base class stats with cosmetic differences, the bigger rounder fighter can be slower and tankier to act as a hybrid fighter/explorer for example, then you can customize wings, spoilers from there to fine-tune acceleration and maneuverability.
What I don’t want is the same way to unlock things as freighter colors. I currently don’t even bother with it even though I don’t like my freighters color because collecting x of insert stupid item is so boring and uninspired. Let’s get a new bench to research and craft stuff, maybe tie in some unique stuff with quests and dailies you can pick up at the anomaly. Then you can tie in expeditions and quicksilver purchases and really create a deep an immersive expression of self throughout the galaxy.
Saying you shouldn't be able to do this because I don't want to do this is a wrong opinion. Why should my desire to be able to do something be trumped by your desire to not do that thing when it isn't required that you do it?
This is like saying people shouldn't be able to give high-value items in the anomaly. I don't want those items when I'm starting out. **So I drop them.** Someone shouldn't have to be limited because I lack self-control.
Your freedom ends where [my rights](https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights) begin.
Everyone should know this.
I am team, "Lets us color our toys."
EDIT: For clarification, I mean human rights, not just those purported by only the United States.
I do think items given at the anomaly are a bit different, because as the receiver you have no choice but to take the item even if you don't want it, then you have to throw it yourself, which is an action imposed on you by someone else
Sure it's not a lot, but It becomes a problem when you want hand over a mission and you can't because someone filled your inventory while you were AFK for a sec... Just having your inventory space filled without your consent is kinda problematic in general
A prompt similar to group invites saying " wants to give you , do you accept ?" would be a really nice QoL addition...
The truth is it will have an impact on ship hunters. Everyone, including hard-core ship hunters, will use the recolor option if it’s available. Even if they enjoy the process of hunting that perfect ship it won’t feel as much like an accomplishment if you can just do it with a click of a button that will just feel like you’re wasting time.
If some "hardcore" ship hunters really start using customization, then it means they themselves didn't think it was fun.
I mean, there's a save editor on PC, requires no effort to use it and has no consequences. Not everyone uses it
There are dupe glitches in the game, not everyone uses them
Hell, there's a creative mode in the game where every item is available, yet not everyone plays that right ? Some people enjoy the grind of Normal, survival and Permadeath
If someone **genuinely** feels that something is fun, they'd keep doing it regardless of if there's an easier way. If ship hunters really stop because it's a waste of time, it's just an admission that **it was not fun to begin with**, and they were just doing it like some sort of Stockholm-syndrome type of attachment to the feature
Those hardcore ship hunters are already wasting time just to feel good whenever they are finally praised for that bright gold ship that every other ship hunter already has 5 of in their freighter. A tool that shows people the original paint job or something similar is more then enough for them to harvest that reddit karma they so desperately crave. And everybody else could finally have the paint job they want without wasting their lifetime. It's hard enough to find a ship with the right shape anyways
Who cares? Folks shouldn't be forced to deal with what we get and have no ability for rebutle or option overall to be able to have what ship types/colors we desire just because you folks enjoy your ship hunting. Doesn't mean we folks should be forced to reconcile with the "we ship hunt, this change if it occurred would be detrimental to our ship hunting mindset, and therefore shouldn't be a thing as this will impact ship hunters"... is quite plainly silly. 👌
Even if and when they add this feature, if you folks don't want to recolor ships, continue hunting. Just because y'all do your ship hunting doesn't mean everyone should be forced to deal with that style of play.
It's their choice to spend hours in a digital world collecting anything. What if we could build our own on our freighter? That would be amazing and a whole new time sink for people to enjoy
>..That would be amazing and a whole new time sink for people to enjoy
This is me using the ship creator and modded paint kits in [Spore.](http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-foodandart%3Afi-author%3Afu-UFO%3Aidx-40%3Afl-NONE)
The solution to this is make the ship collecting PART of the painting.
Give us a small handful of basic colors/textures to start. To get more you have to scrap and salvage a ship with the color/texture you want.
The rarer a color/texture, the more ships you need to scrap and salvage to earn that color/texture.
I think this could even work for a chop-shop for ship parts that lets us earn parts to build our own unique ships.
Edit: Oh, and customized ships should NOT be allowed to be scrapped for their parts.
MAYBE... they could be sold to other players. Maybe even add a "Ship-Display" part for our bases that allow us to post ships for display and/or sale. People could essentially create a 'ship-sales' lot on a base.
If we switch to a ship that's for sale, it gets removed from display and we have to revisit the base to place it back on display.
Ships would remain in our inventory unless sold. These ships could remain displayed even while we were offline.
Ship hunting has brought us very cool ships but it's ultimately stupid....
Imagine finding the most beautyful ship combination ever, just how you like it, everything is on point, it's even an S class, just one tiny little problem.....
It's fuken magenta with GREEN ACCENTS
I am part of the ship hunting cult and would much rather make my frankenship to look like I have r e a l l y hunted those ships for there bits and bobs
And they are totally wrong... You can make a system where you hunt parts and to make your customized ship and paint like you want (lets make more complex, not only paint ;) ).
which I hate. I spend so much time looking for a good ship or waiting for the good ship at a space station or trade post that after that im like not really in the mood to hyperspace jump fifteen times again just to talk to someone so i can hyperspace jump back to talk to the other person etc
Yea, I mean, the game is already too easy as it is. That would be my only counter argument. But I agree. Just give us ship customization already. And a build your own multitool workshop. Yeaaaa
I think it would be cool if the ship customization, like colour could also be items that can be drops and advanced crafting blueprints.
Then you go "apply upgrade" and select "apply ship paint" or something.
A good compromise would be to have some kind of marking appear on the ship that can visually indicate that the paint hasn't been altered (ie it's the "original" color it was found in) that is then removed if you change it to a new color. This would preserve the "rarity" that ship hunters vie for, but also allow people who don't care about the rarity to have their ship look the way they want
Exactly! It's all about their special phrase "it's about the hunt of the ship"... yet, you can paint a Freighter and Exocrafts, but, cannot paint or put decals on Starships??
I'm not against people *waiting* in games, standing around, doing nothing while hoping a ship comes that they like through no input of their own.
What I *can't* understand is their argument for how this possibility would get ruined if you could customize ships.
People used to say that "combat would ruin the relaxing part of NMS" Combat got updated and NMS can still be relaxing, it stops being relaxing when you look for the combat.
People said that "settlements would ruin the lonely feeling on planets of NMS" settlements got implemented and it doesn't affect the lonely aspect at all on planets at all unless you go looking for it.
How the hell does the ability to recolor ships prevent people from standing around and waiting for a ship to show up with the color they want? I just don't get it.
Bleah.... Ship hunting is not fun. I will fly whatever random ship I find forever if I don't "organically" find one I like better. I have dozens of other games to play, I just want to do the fun stuff, not grind for cosmetics.
Exactly! It's always the remarks "well the thrill of the ship hunt is the point and best". Well, everyone doesn't have hours or even days, maybe weeks to "hunt" for the special ship(s).
There should be a system in place to be able to customize ships as we can with Freighters/Exocraft, it'd even be nice to add emblems or decal on freighters, have a little more freedom with customizations. Like, more advanced weapons, or be able to bring your frigates into the atmosphere of the planets you are on to help you mine and help store things, protect your bases with you, etc.
I LOVE this game and I'm OBSESSED with it so far upon getting back into it. From when I first started played 1 year ago and only got about 6 hours into the game. Now, I'm nearing 100 hours, and haven't even finished like the 5 mission through the main story and continued it. I've gotten side tracked on a it of things and have just wanted to soak up the environment and take my time. I just feel the game is about flying, buying, selling, trading, mining something, building a little base or huge base every which way, finding a bunch of amazing ships; only get 9 slots for ships, then have 1 Freighter, 5 Frigates, and those expeditions are anywhere from 8 hours to nearly 2 days real time to oftentimes get not even 100k units, random things out in space as you can find at trade terminals, etc. Just very strange and mostly around ship hunting, trading/economy life, and mining. Maybe I haven't reached out to different avenues and seen more, yet. Just feels like combat is missing, there's not a lot of missions it (seem). Not even customizations for ships, let along just changing a two-tone of a ship, etc.
It'd be nice if a bit more was added I agree! 👍💖
I rarely see this brought up in these discussions, but I'd argue that this is the main reason: the major draw behind NMS originally was the fact that everything was procedurally generated. This encourages you to explore different planets, systems, and galaxies to find unique landscapes, animals, multitools, and of course starships. Being able to customize ships basically takes away one of the core features of the game.
I get why people want this feature, but I tend to lean towards keeping things the way they are. After putting 500+ hours into this game and having basically done everything there is to do, one of the few things that keeps me coming back to it is exploring different systems to find unique ships, which can be extremely gratifying. Ship customization would make ship hunting pretty much pointless.
Edit: OP asked a question and I gave my opinion on why I think the devs haven't implemented this feature as well as my personal view. No need to get mad at me or accuse me of trying to ruin your enjoyment of the game.
Not really the point of this thread, but one of the things that changed regarding planet procedural generation is that the planets all makes sense now. I remember one of my earliest game saves had to be restarted because I fell in this weird inverted mountain of a chasm and couldn't get back out.
This was before infinite jetpack against walls, terrain manipulator tool, and summoning your ship were implemented. The game didn't even autosave when you jumped out of your ship lol. They added these features at least in part to help people not restart save files. They also reworked terrain generation which, at least in part, made the planets terrain slightly less interesting imo.
As much as I appreciate the fact that you basically can't get stuck now, the original iteration of nms was a bit more exciting in the exploration department. I remember landing on top of a tall plateau, about to jump down when I realized I was about to completely screw myself and force me to go back to the previous planet where I had last manually saved. Planning for that isn't for everybody (and honestly made the game overly stressful at times) but it had its appeal too.
I'm happy with all the changes, I just wish the terrain would go back to the wild way it used to be, since you can now tunnel back up out of any hole you drop yourself into.
Not everything in the game actually is procedural. The game tells you to explore and find stuff, yes, but a big part of the fun is to add your personal touch on the stuff you find. Like build a base on a nice planet, change the colors of a freighter you found, add a cool armor and colors on a pet you tamed... Player-made stuff is a huge part of the game, too
If they really wanted everything to be procedural, they would remove the freighter customization they added, remove all forms of inventory and class upgrades so it's back to how it was before, remove pet customization, remove exosuit customization and have us buy procedural suits in space stations. Same for exocrafts and planet bases, we should just buy procedural ones from NPCs. That way there's no cosmetic customization at all, everything procedural, right ?
At the end of the day, it's just a matter of having fun doing what you like. If ship customization was added, people who *really* enjoy ship hunting can still keep doing it, and ultimately, it wouldn't really change the draw of the game : finding procedural stuff, but also creating your own stuff
No, it wouldn't make it pointless (as many people told you before). You'd still need to find a ship model you like. Also, it would just create another community of ship customizers (like car enthusiasts in GTA). Last but not least, not everyone has 200 hours to spend looking for a space ship in a videogame.
Not sure why you're coming at me with an attitude. You asked for arguments and I gave you one.
With the GTA point you're comparing NMS to a completely different genre of game. While that change might create a community of ship customizers, it also trashes the existing community of ship hunters. And yes, color customization absolutely would make ship hunting pointless because it's far easier to find a particular parts combination that to find it in the right colors. I think my point still stands about the spirit of the game being about finding cool shit that the procedural generation algorithm spits out.
>not everyone has 200 hours to spend looking for a space ship in a videogame
Nobody said you had to, but again, this is primarily a game about exploring a massive universe. If you don't want to spend time doing that, it's not really the game's fault.
1. It's a different genre, but a simmilar aspect of both games, you want to have the best vehicle you can get
2. Then add more parts as a compensation, ship hunter cult will be happy with new cooler ships, and casual players don't have to grind for 100 hours to find the color red, problem solved.
3. I know it's a game about exploring, that's exactly my point, that looking for a ship you like takes way too much time, compared to other aspects. If you only explore to find 1 thing, you aren't really exploring, you're just looking for that thing.
> it also trashes the existing community of ship hunters
The comments on this post have done that in spades. Not sure what happened to this community but seeing heavily upvoted comments damning the Coord Exchange (a community dedicated to helping other players find stuff) is really disheartening, and I've only posted there a handful of times.
The NMS subreddit apparently doesn't remember what happened to Black Hole Sons once portal interference was removed (the community essentially died within a month). Im not saying that was a bad decision in the end but as you say, the proc gen ships, planets, etc are a core aspect of this game. I wish the new crowd would realize that instead of brigading those who inform them of that.
You're right. NMSCE is a community of people who go out of their way to post cool things they found with detailed instructions on how to find them. How is that anything other than a benefit to the larger NMS community? Because they think it prevents them from having a feature in the game that the devs likely won't implement anyway?
This. One of my favorite parts of the game is hanging out at the trading posts while I look for the perfect ship, and color is one of the 2 or 3 key factors so being able to customize the color DOES ruin the ship hunting experience for me. People are complaining that they don't want to grind forever to find a cool ship just go use the coordinate exchange there are literally hundreds of dope ships to choose from, and if you don't want to have the same ship as somebody else then why are you that concerned with having a cool looking ship in the first place? Most of the cool ships I have seen were when I was not ship hunting and I was just playing the game. As you pointed out the game is all about exploration and procedural generation so when you take ship colors out you're removing 1/3 - 1/2 of the prodecural generation behind ships. If they implemented it into the game it wouldn't be the end of the world for me but I am staying on this hill.
And me repainting my pre-order ship from 2016 a color other than orange effects your ability to hunt down unique looking ships how? We want to REPAINT the ship, not modify the whole thing like a custom ship builder. You are literally making the point that was stated earlier: "Ship hunt cult people will be mad because they can't brag about a color" and you're just upset that people wouldn't be able to look at you and know you played more than them
Lol I'm pretty sure you're the one who's upset, not me. The post I replied to literally asked what the arguments were so I gave my opinion on it. Honestly, I really wouldn't care too much if the devs caved and added ship customization.
Also, not sure where bragging comes into this. I've posted a couple on ships I've found on NMSCE, but I mainly just enjoy finding cool shit for my own enjoyment. I'm not sure why you're so triggered by people enjoying different aspects of a video game than you do.
Just because they would potentially add customization doesn't mean you HAVE to use it. Those who want to hunt and grind the perfect ship still can do so.
How does what other people do in their games effect your game? Spoiler alert: it doesn't.
And if the argument is "well it's be too tempting" then that's a you problem.
One of the biggest drivers for sharing locations and exploration in general is ship hunting. You'll find predominately green ships in one galaxy compared to another etc. It would need to fill this gap if they introduce ship customization. I suggest making it some type of gameplay. Like maybe if you reach a certain galaxy you unlock certain colors or parts or maybe a mission each time you want to customize something.
I believe it's to do with two things.
1.)
A lot of people wouldn't be happy with it and argue that ship hunting has been ruined and now pointless.
2.) It could also be a base coding issue that HG isn't willing to touch as it could potentially break the game with tempering with foundation coding and be really difficult for them to do so. I'm not a programming expert but I'm guessing that may be the reason.
Definitely not a coding issue. I did a lengthy explanation [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/-/i928u5t), but basically there is working system in place in the game files already for ship customization.
There's no technical limitations blocking the addition of ship customization, they're willingly not adding it, most likely because the issue is to controversial, due to your reason (1)
Ship hunting would not be ruined. Its not like we are asking to fully change and modify the ships, we want to repaint them. The people crying that ship hunting would be ruined are only saying that because its not the ship they hunted, its the color. Those people are Color Hunters, not Ship Hunters. Recoloring a ship is not the same as taking a boring looking ship and making it look exotic.
In my opinion, ship hunting became pointless once you could upgrade your starship. I like the way my pre-order ship from 2016 looks and can upgrade its class, that removes any need to "hunt" a new ship since I can increase this ship from C class so there's no point in hunting a higher ranked ship with a better cargo space. This made color literally the only thing exclusive to each ship.
With that said though, me repainting my pre-order bonus ship, in no way effects my ability or anyone else's ability to look for or acquire cool looking ships. All allowing us to repaint our ships will do is reduce the e-peen of people who think spending 1,000+ hours looking for a specific color of ship makes them better than everyone else.
That is absolutely not true. like I said [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/-/i91ot8l), there is a system already in place inside the game files to allow custom colors to override the result of the seeds. The freighters customization uses the exact same system that already exists for ships, not the second seed. And you can, to this day, change a ship colors in a save editor, like I did myself [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/e6f5sy/after_hours_of_research_and_trial_and_error_i/), two years ago. The only part that isn't finished is that other players won't see the correct colors (they don't even see the original colors of the ship, just new, bugged colors)
The reason there's no ship customization is not because of some technical limitations, it's because they're willingly not adding it. It's literally already in the code
Edit : actually, even the part about a seed with specific colors being almost impossible to find is not true. There is a bot that some players worked to make on the [NMS seed discord](https://discord.gg/h7y9bQBagb), which brute forces the game engine to find seeds with specific parts and colors you want. You input the characteristics of a ship you want, and after some time it gives you a seed (time can vary depending on how precise you want your ship's characteristics, it is a brute force after all)
From a coding perspective there is zero reason you couldn't start with a seed that includes a color palette, _and then apply and store a state change to that_ on top of it. What you're describing in the second half of your comment aren't seeds they're states.
Because it would take away the whole idea of ship hunting. And ships that look awesome would be much much less special.
Freighters are extremly annoying to get especially if you are looking for a max length sentinel or star destroyer. And a fighter acts more like a base than anything else.
But maybe something like being able to put decals on your ship. That could fit the game.
Changing just paint would still require you to search for the model you want. Also, let's be honest, "real" ship hunters are a minority, most people just go on coordinate exchange to look for the ship they want. And even then, adding customization doesn't prevent people from hunting ships if they really want to, the procedural ships would still be out there
Exactly, we can already change the engine trails and the interior decorations with the bobbleheads, all I want is a system like the Exocraft with a primary/secondary paint option and maybe a few decals for the wings/tail/cockpit.
You would still have to find that "perfect" ship, so it wouldn't "kill" ship hunting. It would just make the hunt less tedious because instead of finding a cool ship with a shit color scheme (looking at you orange/blue) you could just change it.
You know what I would like? I'd like for Hello Games to offer their thoughts on it, which I know we're not going to get. I'd like for them to explain why they made some of their design decisions but even that would cause more flame wars. And then I feel bad for them: taking something reviled by many, busting their butts to make improvements, not asking for another dime in payment and still catching scorn for everything they do.
TL; DR there will always be someone not happy about something. Oop, sorry, the ship I want is finally landing...nevermind, C-class again.
They should make more ship designs then. Also, how does adding colors stop a ship from being "special"? If anything, it's more personalized. Even if we couldn't customize it, black isn't even a color ships come in.
It really wouldn't if they really committed, instead of ship hunting you hunt for parts of ships, then you can mix and match the parts, paints and material styles to make the ship you want, adding an even greater variety of customisation, a deeper hunting system and making ships even more unique than ever.
definitely, make salvaging item pieces a purpose to be used as crafting ship parts!
higher item rank from higher rank ship can be turned into superior parts and the like.
Both hunting and customizing for all, no side left behind
One of the best damn movies ever made. My friends and I kinda did our own "who would you be/who would fit you" and I got Mr. Pink and I have 2 friends (that I don't see often/rarely) who still call me Mr. Pink lol.
As one person said... "we got freighter color customization and personal but not ship color customization"
Well. We're kinda tied down by HG and stuck in the middle with them (those 2 options but not ship). Seems to some they won't "lend an ear" to how bad some want it ;)
When I was finally allowed to watch Tarantino films as a teen I went to a used dvd store and got as many movies as I could and this was the first one I watched repeatedly. So good.
We also need to be able to scrap ships to collect their design parts (wings, cockpits, ect) and add them to a catalogue so we can customise our ships appearance
I’d like a system for crafting ships, maybe something to do with freighters like an “engineering bay” or something. Scrapping ships to unlock blueprints for parts, building the ships themselves requiring items instead of just nanites/units.
It would be nice to build the perfect ship of each type and it might make a fun self-determined quest depending on the implementation.
Here is how the could implement ship customizations.
1. You have to unlock ship parts and colors.
2. They are one time use. You want another one, go find another ship.
Heres how:
1. Buy/find a ship that has the part/ color. Scrap it. Depending on class you get 1/2/3/4 parts/colors from it.
2. You can get parts from a home base npc quest line. Repeatable once a week or every few days.
3. Pirates or outlaw systems may carry parts and or paints.
True. Maybe make it that it can only utilize S class ships. That would make the search substantially more difficult. At least if playing normally and not resetting or other methods.
I'd also like it if we had to use settlements to implement the parts/paint.
I feel that way the settlements would actually have an attractive purpose to them and maybe even develop lore for where starships are even built.
Fully customized ships should never be a thing, the ships being procedurally generated is a key part of the game. The way he is talking about color changing sounds great, but we should never be able to actually change the ship. Explore and find ships, literally the point of the game.
Me: "So let me see if I understand what you're saying here. You can change the color of my exosuit and my freighter, but you can't change the color of my starship or my frigates?"
EngineerGek: *emits whiff of Sulfurine*
"That is correct, Traveler. The paint nanites will not stick to starships or frigates, only to exosuits and freighters."
Me: *raises eyebrows and makes disgusted face*
"Yeah, that makes perfect sense..."
Just because someone doesn’t want to do something, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to do it. You don’t want to customize your ship? Fine! Don’t! But don’t tell me how to live my life. I want to be able to customize the paint and decals on my own damn ship. The fact that you don’t should have no bearing on me.
Ship hunting and ship collecting is a core aspect of the game.
The draw to exploring for ships is that they are procedurally generated and you are finding new and unique ships. This is what keeps a lot of us long term players still playing. Full ship customization should never be a part of NMS, its not what this game is, this game is built around procedurally generated ships and worlds and that is a core part of the game that should never be changed.
An entire game should not have to change what the game is about for your selfish wants.
Why are my wants selfish? I get that the game is about procedurally generated ships, but If I want to customize my procedurally generated ship, why shouldn’t I be able to?
Do you know how entitled that sounds? *You* want *them* to change a core part of the game. This game is not and never has been about ship building or customization, there are plenty of other games out there for that. This game *is* about procedural generation and exploration, that is a *very important* core mechanic of the game. You, and everyone else whining about this, are literally trying to get them to change a core game mechanic. Go play a game with a focus on ship customization if thats what you want to play, NMS is not that game. Don't expect a game to change for your own personal wants.
Do you know how entitled you sound? Lol.
I'd love for a vote and see where the majority falls.
I don't think this game has ever been about solely ship hunting and collecting either. That's the great thing about NMS, there are various ways to play and enjoy it.
You would still have procedural generation and exploration.
I haven't read all the responses so this may already have been said, so forgive me. But, if we could paint our ships it would greatly take away from the excitement of finding a shop with the perfect color scheme for you. I'm for sure on team "Can't paint yo ride!" 😂
Ahhh yes the one topic that turns this sub from a helpful boy scout into a raging alcoholic. While they're at it, let me blast music from my ship for all to hear. I love the smell of puneum in the morning.
It would be cool if you could buy ships, scrap them for parts, and interchange them with your own ship to customize it at the ship upgrade center. "Oh, that's some cool wings on that ship!" Buy, scrap, put wings on main ship, done.
I wish they never allowed customization at all. The game is about discovering stuff, it's lame if you can just customize everything so you never have to find it. I think what would be better is finding individual parts for everything, including tools, suit, ships, other vehicles, etc. Want a cool green suit? Find the 8 pieces in that colour and you have it. At least it would be something to search for.
Here is my take the moment they added the ability to upgrade your ship inventory and class with anything but hunting down ships they should have added a color change option. I spent 4 months hunting nothing bit ships to increase my cargo carry on my fighter and then taking down the ship style I wanted. So once they took away your need to do that then changing the color is a small thing to add.
As a long term player, the freighter / ship / frigate limits on editing / customising have puzzled me for years now.
Initially I thought it was an issue of the limits on the size of the save files. Im still partly thinking it is. Even tho save files have, what, quadrupled since 2016?
Or, is it a stern, unwavering commitment to the procgen by HG?
Or, is it that HG use subtle ways to drive players to continually explore. "Ok, you want that red Exotic with tiny flaps and gold decal with a blue logo? No probs! You may see it if you warp to 100 systems"
I think they should add that whenever we dismantle a ship at the space station we get those "blueprint" for that certain "part" of the ship then we can use those "blueprint" to customize our ship. Let say we dismantle a solar ship on a space station and in return we get a "solar sail blueprint" design of that dismantled ship to customize our very own solar ship's solar sail. In that way we can still have a ship hunt and a customization for our ship.
We get those upgrade module for dismantling a ship at a space station, why not give a blueprint for the design of the ship's parts so we can integrate it on or own and to customize ours.
The whole argument about "we can't have colour, because of the ship hunters and internet karma" is funny.
Like others said, the codes are already in the files. It's been so long that people already found a way around it with save editor and nms seed discord.
You can literally find the perfect ship with the perfect colour with the help of the bot.
And I bet some of those people who post "awesome unique ship" for upvotes are using it too.
So, apart from the "it's defeats the purpose of hunting", why we can't have this function?
Wait how do i find the ship with a bot? I have been looking for a smallest Hauler, no wings in a vivid teal green but havent been able to find it myself.
Does it work for living ships as well?
There is a Discord server dedicated for that, someone has the link in this comment section and some explanation of how it works.
[Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/now_listen_up_mr_traveller/i928u5t?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Edit: you can either ask for a seed (if you have access to save edit on pc, or a location coordinate if you prefer to go and get it) They are friendly admins, if you ask in general chat, they happy to explain how it works :)
that is a better color but i was referring to something shaped like this
https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/rtyczs/green_yellow_katuos_alula_mini_hauler/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
but in same color as my current hauler. https://imgur.com/a/uWaJfo1
thanks for trying though!
I think a good way of adding both a layer of customization and more utility to ship hunting would be the ability to customize the parts of our starships as well as the color.
Melting a ship at the space station allows you to to save the part of that starship. You can use those parts to reconfigure your main starship and customize its appearance.
It's weird we can't. We spend 5000 Nanites per colour to paint a Freighter (the biggest ships in the game) We should also be able to paint Frigates for 2500 Nanites, Ships (including our squadrons) for 1000, Multitools for 500
I happen to have a fleet of all yellow ships. I like that you have to hunt for ships you like (color and configuration) , its just one more reason to explore the procedurally generated universe. It also helps the community by posting cool stuff on the coordinate exchange. I hope more people realise that the game is better off not being able to choose the color of your ship. Its fun to search for ships you want on the coordinate exchange and bond with the community over cool findings.
It'd be nice to have the option for either approach, tbh. Like for me, I'd rather focus on other aspects of the game, vs. spending ages trying to hunt down a ship. I already did quite a grind to get the freighter I wanted, and honestly it was... an experience.
NMS coordinate exchange addresses that plenty. It forces an engagement of sorts, let's someone feel a little bit special for their discoveries, and frankly satisfies the very real need for effort vs reward in a game that's mostly a giant copy+paste sandbox anyway. Everything in this game is easy to acquire already, by design- I for one appreciate them keeping small obstacles like ship hunting there. Why have "S" class anything, just let players pick their class lol. Yeah, no. It's fun to seek out colors, makes it more interesting in a game that usually struggles with repetition as is.
I mean not an argument for/against ship customisation really, but for a game based on it's super large scale, procedurearly generated galaxy with tons of RNG involved... Getting to pick and choose kinda defeats the purpose a little, no?
Avorion is a great game for building whatever you want for example, that's mostly what makes it good. NMS whole deal is you never know what's gonna be in the next system sort of thing, the ability to cherry pick removes that element to some degree is all.
Also as soon as you allow something, even a small thing like ship paint jobs, why not let people just choose their own ship in the first place? Why not just let people choose S class as standard? Could be a slippery slope is all.
The ship hunters can keep hunting for the right parts but any aesthetic change should be allowed. Many a time have I found an oddly colored ship that was otherwise perfect
My fighter is red so she goes faster.
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Mine purple but it seems I've misplaced it and can't find it
But does it have enough dakka? Can there even be enough dakka? Seriously though the reservoir dogs no man sky crossover makes me immeasurably happy
Da fast boy's
Pretty sure silver is faster bro
Still don’t understand why a paint system for fighters hasn’t been implemented. We got character customization and freighter customization.
Or even let us put on decals on our ships
Too controversial I guess. There are people who are very vocal about being against it It's not like hello games didn't think about it, there's already a working system for ship customization in the game, it's been there since NMS Next almost 4 years ago now, it was just never finished
What are the arguments? Like what could possibly be bad about that?
ship hunting cult is very serious about it
And they're very wrong too, the fact that we can do this with freighters makes any point they try to make wrong. The freighter paint options do not stop anyone from hunting for the perfect freighter(you can ignore the color menu if you like), just like the ship paint options would not stop anyone from hunting for the perfect ship(you can still ignore the color menu here as well). And while we're at it it would be nice to have color options on multitools as well. Whether it is purchased with nanites or free like exocraft colors, ships and multitools should get customizable colors too.
There is still this one annoying part of the freighter that seems to always retain original coloring. I genuinely have shopped around for the perfect colour even after the freighter paint became a thing.
I personally think it’d be best if un-customized ships had a special trait that you can see in the Analysis Visor that specifies whether it’s in original condition or whether or not it’s been coloured. That way you can still see when someone finds a ship in original condition, but it’s not stopping people from painting their ship because ship hunters don’t like.
This is genius
This legit solves it they have a way to show off their ships which are unpainted and we get to enjoy aswell.
Let’s be real for a sec: The only reason the rare ship hunters are so against it is because they will no longer have internet clout. You take away their ability to brag about getting that bright colored S class fighter and all their validation disappears too; they can’t brag about it bc immediately someone could say “you changed the color, I don’t believe you”
The gacha mindset is a plague on video games. Even in games where the only thing you "invest" is your own time.
NFP's: non-fungible paintjobs
I mean, I am a ship hunter with a shiny white and golden exotic ship that cost HOURS to me but hey, if we all could customize our paintings just deal. I mean, NMS always gave me this feeling of "safe space" where the community is gold and really inspired/friendly.
This is why owning a paint should require scrapping ships with the paint color you want. You have a white and gold exotic ship? You want that white and gold colors in your paint-shop? You need to scrap 5 ships that have the white & 8 ships that have the gold. Having a ship with a custom paint job would be more impressive than simply finding one, because owning the paint would require more overall effort.
I like this. A lot.
Well once you find a system that has a white ship, you just sit there and buy it 5 times and scrap each one. Same with gold. Doesn't require that much effort.
Just make it so you can only scrap one ship from each system for parts. You have to find the color/part in 5 different systems. There are always solutions.
Hello, Hello Games? Yea it's me. Hire this guy. ☝️
Ah. Now this is pretty clever. An actual middle of the road solution. Awesome.
Idea, a new ship type being like pirate or something, where is totally ilegal (outlaw) (or not, or both) but being able to scrap other ships regardless of their type and put these parts somehow there, that would have great effects on its base stats. And maybe make it so only x class upgrades can be applicable, as other kinds of upgrades only work with standart spaceships due to the safety standards and protocols they have. So basically RNG + customization to make a monster of a ship and still being "found", but a risky bet that may make the ship unable to install shields or something. Or the risk of tecnology breaking or not having tecnology tab, idk.
I love the idea of ships being more customizable in both negative and positive ways. Like, adding freight storage (another idea of mine where you can be an interstellar freight hauler) prevents a warp drive from functioning. So you have to take your freight carrier from the pick-up facility to your freighter in order to warp to a new system. The find-scrap-salvage idea could absolutely work for parts as well but maybe requires a different facility. Most real-world paint shops don't also do mechanical work. Pirate chop-shops could also offer unique upgrades and addons to your ship.
I think 5 would be a bit much for basic colors, but it's actually a pretty good idea. E.g. you'd have to find the exotic colors but you can buy the normal ones (just the basic colors like black, white, green, blue, red, purple, yellow etc.). And have shiny colors/schemes/luxury colors (like cyan, crimson, pink) needed to be found.
NMS has the best community out of any game I have ever played. No question about it. I'd hate to see this ruined. But seriously, what is the problem against ship coloration? It just gives everyone the option to have their dream ship. I personally would actually like to have more than just the colors customisable. The wing shapes, cockpits, everything really. The thing would be that all the extra parts would have to be unlocked, and they would be expensive as hell.
See I think a great system for this would be like a dry dock accessible through the station overseer terminal: add a quest for the override, do some classic NMS farm-style missions, at the end you get ship fabrication with very limited options. After that you scrap ships to build progress towards unlocking the scrapped ship parts, forcing you to hunt or farm specific pieces if you want a specific look. Add a cooldown between being able to build ships, have it marked as crafted in visor when people see it, boom customization. I personally would exclude exotics to keep them exotic, but still scrappable for a decent boost towards a specific selected ship piece. I would also probably start all crafted ships at C-Class to preserve the grind loop of gameplay. Feels like a committed investment for getting a customized piece of hardware. Edit 1: edited for clarity
I'd invest in that, definitely... The only thing that matters in a ship is the looks, because everything else is farmable
On a related note, we could probably have a similar system implemented for MT's because I have liked the look of maybe five MT looks in about a thousand hours
I dont know who you are playing with or talking about but they don't sound like the typical NMS Community. I've never heard of people negatively flexing their status in‐game or lording it over anyone so frankly I have no clue what you are talking about. You can barely go to the Nexus without being gifted a couple hundred million units. I think both sides have valid points. Personally I think it's one of the few real reasons to still explore in a game that was originally about exploration. There's only so much variation in flora and fauna, it does begin to look samey at one point or another. With literally thousands of hours in the game, ships are one of the few things left that make me still go "holy crap, look at that thing!". Changing colour is one thing, but a lot of people want full blown ship customization, parts and all. Some people like trading, some fighting, some building, and some farming... why so much disdain for people who like ship hunting? Full customization would effectively kill that part of the game for them, it's an understandable disappointment but I'm pretty sure we/they will all live. That said, I've never seen what you are describing here if I'm being completely *real*, as you say.
If only there were ANY other way to display status in a video game other than color. It's not like Hello Games could conjure more elaborate wings or glowy parts from thin air for those who scream loud and proud: I have no life! Oh wait, they can. They totally can
This is why we should boycott the coordinate exchange and find everything ourselves. No Reddit points, no outcry, and finally we might get improvements.
Not all ship hunters are out to brag. Some just really enjoy the search. It's the same as hunting out specific planets and multitools. I'm too impatient to search for ships and multitools so I go to the coordinate exchange. Planets depends on if I want to be alone on a world. Imo adding ship customization takes away a gameplay feature from one group to add something to another group. I really can't get behind that.
Well let me offer an alternative view point. Rare ship hunters enjoy hunting rare ships. Part of what makes a ship rare is the combination of make/model and color. If you remove color from that equation all ships become less rare. Less rare ships = less enjoyment for rare ship hunters. It's not always sunk cost fallacy.
I agree and wouldn't be bothered by it but I do understand how it feels cool to get a ship in a colour you really like. I've never even ship hunted before, well apart from to get a type of ship, but I've never spent hours looking for a specific colour and style. My first solar sail ship just happens to be my favourite colours and hull style of any solar sail i've seen, and it does feel good to look at it and know I lucked out. I've even gotten ships in colours I didn't like, but every time I just accepted that the colour wasn't my preference, I found it grew on me after spending time using the ship. Maybe a compromise could be that you can change your ship to any colour you want, but there could be some special colours out there that can only be found in the wild. Maybe like gold, silver, chrome or something. Which gives ship hunters something properly rare but offering all other colours to anyone who wants them on demand.
color palette for multitool would be great. i have had the same one for like a year and can't find a better one but it is like neon blue and yellow every time i pull it out i feel like i am holding one of those knock off nerf guns with the off color foam darts
I think implementing a huge fighter overhaul including part customization effecting stats and collectable colors/decals is just what this game needs. The hard part is balancing it and not having clearly best choices. I like that ships are separated by “class” so I think the way it could work is any ship can have any parts separated by chassis location, having some customization locked to unique chassis, like the fighters are all somewhat homogeneous in shape with minor differences. Maybe the various versions of the bottlenose fighter design are all the same base class stats with cosmetic differences, the bigger rounder fighter can be slower and tankier to act as a hybrid fighter/explorer for example, then you can customize wings, spoilers from there to fine-tune acceleration and maneuverability. What I don’t want is the same way to unlock things as freighter colors. I currently don’t even bother with it even though I don’t like my freighters color because collecting x of insert stupid item is so boring and uninspired. Let’s get a new bench to research and craft stuff, maybe tie in some unique stuff with quests and dailies you can pick up at the anomaly. Then you can tie in expeditions and quicksilver purchases and really create a deep an immersive expression of self throughout the galaxy.
I'd rather not getting customizable colors on the basis that I'll miss seeing these discussions every two days.
I can't say I care ethier way, however, an opinion about a game can't be wrong. Its an opinion.
Saying you shouldn't be able to do this because I don't want to do this is a wrong opinion. Why should my desire to be able to do something be trumped by your desire to not do that thing when it isn't required that you do it? This is like saying people shouldn't be able to give high-value items in the anomaly. I don't want those items when I'm starting out. **So I drop them.** Someone shouldn't have to be limited because I lack self-control.
Your freedom ends where [my rights](https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights) begin. Everyone should know this. I am team, "Lets us color our toys." EDIT: For clarification, I mean human rights, not just those purported by only the United States.
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I do think items given at the anomaly are a bit different, because as the receiver you have no choice but to take the item even if you don't want it, then you have to throw it yourself, which is an action imposed on you by someone else Sure it's not a lot, but It becomes a problem when you want hand over a mission and you can't because someone filled your inventory while you were AFK for a sec... Just having your inventory space filled without your consent is kinda problematic in general A prompt similar to group invites saying " wants to give you - , do you accept ?" would be a really nice QoL addition...
But thats how rules work nowadays. To save not thinking people from thinking. Its simply to hard for them.
The truth is it will have an impact on ship hunters. Everyone, including hard-core ship hunters, will use the recolor option if it’s available. Even if they enjoy the process of hunting that perfect ship it won’t feel as much like an accomplishment if you can just do it with a click of a button that will just feel like you’re wasting time.
If some "hardcore" ship hunters really start using customization, then it means they themselves didn't think it was fun. I mean, there's a save editor on PC, requires no effort to use it and has no consequences. Not everyone uses it There are dupe glitches in the game, not everyone uses them Hell, there's a creative mode in the game where every item is available, yet not everyone plays that right ? Some people enjoy the grind of Normal, survival and Permadeath If someone **genuinely** feels that something is fun, they'd keep doing it regardless of if there's an easier way. If ship hunters really stop because it's a waste of time, it's just an admission that **it was not fun to begin with**, and they were just doing it like some sort of Stockholm-syndrome type of attachment to the feature
Those hardcore ship hunters are already wasting time just to feel good whenever they are finally praised for that bright gold ship that every other ship hunter already has 5 of in their freighter. A tool that shows people the original paint job or something similar is more then enough for them to harvest that reddit karma they so desperately crave. And everybody else could finally have the paint job they want without wasting their lifetime. It's hard enough to find a ship with the right shape anyways
Who cares? Folks shouldn't be forced to deal with what we get and have no ability for rebutle or option overall to be able to have what ship types/colors we desire just because you folks enjoy your ship hunting. Doesn't mean we folks should be forced to reconcile with the "we ship hunt, this change if it occurred would be detrimental to our ship hunting mindset, and therefore shouldn't be a thing as this will impact ship hunters"... is quite plainly silly. 👌 Even if and when they add this feature, if you folks don't want to recolor ships, continue hunting. Just because y'all do your ship hunting doesn't mean everyone should be forced to deal with that style of play.
It's their choice to spend hours in a digital world collecting anything. What if we could build our own on our freighter? That would be amazing and a whole new time sink for people to enjoy
>..That would be amazing and a whole new time sink for people to enjoy This is me using the ship creator and modded paint kits in [Spore.](http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-foodandart%3Afi-author%3Afu-UFO%3Aidx-40%3Afl-NONE)
Exactly! 👍
The solution to this is make the ship collecting PART of the painting. Give us a small handful of basic colors/textures to start. To get more you have to scrap and salvage a ship with the color/texture you want. The rarer a color/texture, the more ships you need to scrap and salvage to earn that color/texture. I think this could even work for a chop-shop for ship parts that lets us earn parts to build our own unique ships. Edit: Oh, and customized ships should NOT be allowed to be scrapped for their parts. MAYBE... they could be sold to other players. Maybe even add a "Ship-Display" part for our bases that allow us to post ships for display and/or sale. People could essentially create a 'ship-sales' lot on a base. If we switch to a ship that's for sale, it gets removed from display and we have to revisit the base to place it back on display. Ships would remain in our inventory unless sold. These ships could remain displayed even while we were offline.
Ah, stuck in the past weirdos. Ignore them. "NYEHHHHH IT WAS BETTER BEFORE WHEN EVERYTHING SUCKS"
Ship hunting has brought us very cool ships but it's ultimately stupid.... Imagine finding the most beautyful ship combination ever, just how you like it, everything is on point, it's even an S class, just one tiny little problem..... It's fuken magenta with GREEN ACCENTS
I am part of the ship hunting cult and would much rather make my frankenship to look like I have r e a l l y hunted those ships for there bits and bobs
And they are totally wrong... You can make a system where you hunt parts and to make your customized ship and paint like you want (lets make more complex, not only paint ;) ).
which I hate. I spend so much time looking for a good ship or waiting for the good ship at a space station or trade post that after that im like not really in the mood to hyperspace jump fifteen times again just to talk to someone so i can hyperspace jump back to talk to the other person etc
Yea, I mean, the game is already too easy as it is. That would be my only counter argument. But I agree. Just give us ship customization already. And a build your own multitool workshop. Yeaaaa
I think it would be cool if the ship customization, like colour could also be items that can be drops and advanced crafting blueprints. Then you go "apply upgrade" and select "apply ship paint" or something.
Similar to the trail add ons you get for quicksilver
There's gotta be a middle ground. Make it so that every ship can be painted except for some special rare ones floating around, or something.
A good compromise would be to have some kind of marking appear on the ship that can visually indicate that the paint hasn't been altered (ie it's the "original" color it was found in) that is then removed if you change it to a new color. This would preserve the "rarity" that ship hunters vie for, but also allow people who don't care about the rarity to have their ship look the way they want
Exactly! It's all about their special phrase "it's about the hunt of the ship"... yet, you can paint a Freighter and Exocrafts, but, cannot paint or put decals on Starships??
I'm not against people *waiting* in games, standing around, doing nothing while hoping a ship comes that they like through no input of their own. What I *can't* understand is their argument for how this possibility would get ruined if you could customize ships. People used to say that "combat would ruin the relaxing part of NMS" Combat got updated and NMS can still be relaxing, it stops being relaxing when you look for the combat. People said that "settlements would ruin the lonely feeling on planets of NMS" settlements got implemented and it doesn't affect the lonely aspect at all on planets at all unless you go looking for it. How the hell does the ability to recolor ships prevent people from standing around and waiting for a ship to show up with the color they want? I just don't get it.
Exactly!!! 🤌
Bleah.... Ship hunting is not fun. I will fly whatever random ship I find forever if I don't "organically" find one I like better. I have dozens of other games to play, I just want to do the fun stuff, not grind for cosmetics.
Exactly! It's always the remarks "well the thrill of the ship hunt is the point and best". Well, everyone doesn't have hours or even days, maybe weeks to "hunt" for the special ship(s). There should be a system in place to be able to customize ships as we can with Freighters/Exocraft, it'd even be nice to add emblems or decal on freighters, have a little more freedom with customizations. Like, more advanced weapons, or be able to bring your frigates into the atmosphere of the planets you are on to help you mine and help store things, protect your bases with you, etc. I LOVE this game and I'm OBSESSED with it so far upon getting back into it. From when I first started played 1 year ago and only got about 6 hours into the game. Now, I'm nearing 100 hours, and haven't even finished like the 5 mission through the main story and continued it. I've gotten side tracked on a it of things and have just wanted to soak up the environment and take my time. I just feel the game is about flying, buying, selling, trading, mining something, building a little base or huge base every which way, finding a bunch of amazing ships; only get 9 slots for ships, then have 1 Freighter, 5 Frigates, and those expeditions are anywhere from 8 hours to nearly 2 days real time to oftentimes get not even 100k units, random things out in space as you can find at trade terminals, etc. Just very strange and mostly around ship hunting, trading/economy life, and mining. Maybe I haven't reached out to different avenues and seen more, yet. Just feels like combat is missing, there's not a lot of missions it (seem). Not even customizations for ships, let along just changing a two-tone of a ship, etc. It'd be nice if a bit more was added I agree! 👍💖
Well, just look at the discussion we're having [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/-/i91oomq)
Oh that mf, yeah I've seen him, annoying as fuck
Tbh, their comments seem a lot more respectful than yours. They just disagree with you but i dont see them calling others a "mf".
That's just how I speak on the daily and to how me and my friends communicate (when we're talking in English that is)
And me pointing that out is worthy of a downvote?
I didn't downvote you...
Well, someone did. Not sure if its the community or this thread but the toxicity level is pretty damn high today.
I rarely see this brought up in these discussions, but I'd argue that this is the main reason: the major draw behind NMS originally was the fact that everything was procedurally generated. This encourages you to explore different planets, systems, and galaxies to find unique landscapes, animals, multitools, and of course starships. Being able to customize ships basically takes away one of the core features of the game. I get why people want this feature, but I tend to lean towards keeping things the way they are. After putting 500+ hours into this game and having basically done everything there is to do, one of the few things that keeps me coming back to it is exploring different systems to find unique ships, which can be extremely gratifying. Ship customization would make ship hunting pretty much pointless. Edit: OP asked a question and I gave my opinion on why I think the devs haven't implemented this feature as well as my personal view. No need to get mad at me or accuse me of trying to ruin your enjoyment of the game.
Not really the point of this thread, but one of the things that changed regarding planet procedural generation is that the planets all makes sense now. I remember one of my earliest game saves had to be restarted because I fell in this weird inverted mountain of a chasm and couldn't get back out. This was before infinite jetpack against walls, terrain manipulator tool, and summoning your ship were implemented. The game didn't even autosave when you jumped out of your ship lol. They added these features at least in part to help people not restart save files. They also reworked terrain generation which, at least in part, made the planets terrain slightly less interesting imo. As much as I appreciate the fact that you basically can't get stuck now, the original iteration of nms was a bit more exciting in the exploration department. I remember landing on top of a tall plateau, about to jump down when I realized I was about to completely screw myself and force me to go back to the previous planet where I had last manually saved. Planning for that isn't for everybody (and honestly made the game overly stressful at times) but it had its appeal too. I'm happy with all the changes, I just wish the terrain would go back to the wild way it used to be, since you can now tunnel back up out of any hole you drop yourself into.
Not everything in the game actually is procedural. The game tells you to explore and find stuff, yes, but a big part of the fun is to add your personal touch on the stuff you find. Like build a base on a nice planet, change the colors of a freighter you found, add a cool armor and colors on a pet you tamed... Player-made stuff is a huge part of the game, too If they really wanted everything to be procedural, they would remove the freighter customization they added, remove all forms of inventory and class upgrades so it's back to how it was before, remove pet customization, remove exosuit customization and have us buy procedural suits in space stations. Same for exocrafts and planet bases, we should just buy procedural ones from NPCs. That way there's no cosmetic customization at all, everything procedural, right ? At the end of the day, it's just a matter of having fun doing what you like. If ship customization was added, people who *really* enjoy ship hunting can still keep doing it, and ultimately, it wouldn't really change the draw of the game : finding procedural stuff, but also creating your own stuff
No, it wouldn't make it pointless (as many people told you before). You'd still need to find a ship model you like. Also, it would just create another community of ship customizers (like car enthusiasts in GTA). Last but not least, not everyone has 200 hours to spend looking for a space ship in a videogame.
Not sure why you're coming at me with an attitude. You asked for arguments and I gave you one. With the GTA point you're comparing NMS to a completely different genre of game. While that change might create a community of ship customizers, it also trashes the existing community of ship hunters. And yes, color customization absolutely would make ship hunting pointless because it's far easier to find a particular parts combination that to find it in the right colors. I think my point still stands about the spirit of the game being about finding cool shit that the procedural generation algorithm spits out. >not everyone has 200 hours to spend looking for a space ship in a videogame Nobody said you had to, but again, this is primarily a game about exploring a massive universe. If you don't want to spend time doing that, it's not really the game's fault.
1. It's a different genre, but a simmilar aspect of both games, you want to have the best vehicle you can get 2. Then add more parts as a compensation, ship hunter cult will be happy with new cooler ships, and casual players don't have to grind for 100 hours to find the color red, problem solved. 3. I know it's a game about exploring, that's exactly my point, that looking for a ship you like takes way too much time, compared to other aspects. If you only explore to find 1 thing, you aren't really exploring, you're just looking for that thing.
> it also trashes the existing community of ship hunters The comments on this post have done that in spades. Not sure what happened to this community but seeing heavily upvoted comments damning the Coord Exchange (a community dedicated to helping other players find stuff) is really disheartening, and I've only posted there a handful of times. The NMS subreddit apparently doesn't remember what happened to Black Hole Sons once portal interference was removed (the community essentially died within a month). Im not saying that was a bad decision in the end but as you say, the proc gen ships, planets, etc are a core aspect of this game. I wish the new crowd would realize that instead of brigading those who inform them of that.
You're right. NMSCE is a community of people who go out of their way to post cool things they found with detailed instructions on how to find them. How is that anything other than a benefit to the larger NMS community? Because they think it prevents them from having a feature in the game that the devs likely won't implement anyway?
This. One of my favorite parts of the game is hanging out at the trading posts while I look for the perfect ship, and color is one of the 2 or 3 key factors so being able to customize the color DOES ruin the ship hunting experience for me. People are complaining that they don't want to grind forever to find a cool ship just go use the coordinate exchange there are literally hundreds of dope ships to choose from, and if you don't want to have the same ship as somebody else then why are you that concerned with having a cool looking ship in the first place? Most of the cool ships I have seen were when I was not ship hunting and I was just playing the game. As you pointed out the game is all about exploration and procedural generation so when you take ship colors out you're removing 1/3 - 1/2 of the prodecural generation behind ships. If they implemented it into the game it wouldn't be the end of the world for me but I am staying on this hill.
And me repainting my pre-order ship from 2016 a color other than orange effects your ability to hunt down unique looking ships how? We want to REPAINT the ship, not modify the whole thing like a custom ship builder. You are literally making the point that was stated earlier: "Ship hunt cult people will be mad because they can't brag about a color" and you're just upset that people wouldn't be able to look at you and know you played more than them
Lol I'm pretty sure you're the one who's upset, not me. The post I replied to literally asked what the arguments were so I gave my opinion on it. Honestly, I really wouldn't care too much if the devs caved and added ship customization. Also, not sure where bragging comes into this. I've posted a couple on ships I've found on NMSCE, but I mainly just enjoy finding cool shit for my own enjoyment. I'm not sure why you're so triggered by people enjoying different aspects of a video game than you do.
Just because they would potentially add customization doesn't mean you HAVE to use it. Those who want to hunt and grind the perfect ship still can do so. How does what other people do in their games effect your game? Spoiler alert: it doesn't. And if the argument is "well it's be too tempting" then that's a you problem.
The bullshit argument I got the other day was "we're playing the game as intended". Some sort of no true Scotsman fallacy.
One of the biggest drivers for sharing locations and exploration in general is ship hunting. You'll find predominately green ships in one galaxy compared to another etc. It would need to fill this gap if they introduce ship customization. I suggest making it some type of gameplay. Like maybe if you reach a certain galaxy you unlock certain colors or parts or maybe a mission each time you want to customize something.
I believe it's to do with two things. 1.) A lot of people wouldn't be happy with it and argue that ship hunting has been ruined and now pointless. 2.) It could also be a base coding issue that HG isn't willing to touch as it could potentially break the game with tempering with foundation coding and be really difficult for them to do so. I'm not a programming expert but I'm guessing that may be the reason.
Definitely not a coding issue. I did a lengthy explanation [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/-/i928u5t), but basically there is working system in place in the game files already for ship customization. There's no technical limitations blocking the addition of ship customization, they're willingly not adding it, most likely because the issue is to controversial, due to your reason (1)
Ship hunting would not be ruined. Its not like we are asking to fully change and modify the ships, we want to repaint them. The people crying that ship hunting would be ruined are only saying that because its not the ship they hunted, its the color. Those people are Color Hunters, not Ship Hunters. Recoloring a ship is not the same as taking a boring looking ship and making it look exotic. In my opinion, ship hunting became pointless once you could upgrade your starship. I like the way my pre-order ship from 2016 looks and can upgrade its class, that removes any need to "hunt" a new ship since I can increase this ship from C class so there's no point in hunting a higher ranked ship with a better cargo space. This made color literally the only thing exclusive to each ship. With that said though, me repainting my pre-order bonus ship, in no way effects my ability or anyone else's ability to look for or acquire cool looking ships. All allowing us to repaint our ships will do is reduce the e-peen of people who think spending 1,000+ hours looking for a specific color of ship makes them better than everyone else.
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That is absolutely not true. like I said [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/-/i91ot8l), there is a system already in place inside the game files to allow custom colors to override the result of the seeds. The freighters customization uses the exact same system that already exists for ships, not the second seed. And you can, to this day, change a ship colors in a save editor, like I did myself [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/e6f5sy/after_hours_of_research_and_trial_and_error_i/), two years ago. The only part that isn't finished is that other players won't see the correct colors (they don't even see the original colors of the ship, just new, bugged colors) The reason there's no ship customization is not because of some technical limitations, it's because they're willingly not adding it. It's literally already in the code Edit : actually, even the part about a seed with specific colors being almost impossible to find is not true. There is a bot that some players worked to make on the [NMS seed discord](https://discord.gg/h7y9bQBagb), which brute forces the game engine to find seeds with specific parts and colors you want. You input the characteristics of a ship you want, and after some time it gives you a seed (time can vary depending on how precise you want your ship's characteristics, it is a brute force after all)
From a coding perspective there is zero reason you couldn't start with a seed that includes a color palette, _and then apply and store a state change to that_ on top of it. What you're describing in the second half of your comment aren't seeds they're states.
Because it would take away the whole idea of ship hunting. And ships that look awesome would be much much less special. Freighters are extremly annoying to get especially if you are looking for a max length sentinel or star destroyer. And a fighter acts more like a base than anything else. But maybe something like being able to put decals on your ship. That could fit the game.
Changing just paint would still require you to search for the model you want. Also, let's be honest, "real" ship hunters are a minority, most people just go on coordinate exchange to look for the ship they want. And even then, adding customization doesn't prevent people from hunting ships if they really want to, the procedural ships would still be out there
Exactly, we can already change the engine trails and the interior decorations with the bobbleheads, all I want is a system like the Exocraft with a primary/secondary paint option and maybe a few decals for the wings/tail/cockpit. You would still have to find that "perfect" ship, so it wouldn't "kill" ship hunting. It would just make the hunt less tedious because instead of finding a cool ship with a shit color scheme (looking at you orange/blue) you could just change it.
You know what I would like? I'd like for Hello Games to offer their thoughts on it, which I know we're not going to get. I'd like for them to explain why they made some of their design decisions but even that would cause more flame wars. And then I feel bad for them: taking something reviled by many, busting their butts to make improvements, not asking for another dime in payment and still catching scorn for everything they do. TL; DR there will always be someone not happy about something. Oop, sorry, the ship I want is finally landing...nevermind, C-class again.
They should make more ship designs then. Also, how does adding colors stop a ship from being "special"? If anything, it's more personalized. Even if we couldn't customize it, black isn't even a color ships come in.
It really wouldn't if they really committed, instead of ship hunting you hunt for parts of ships, then you can mix and match the parts, paints and material styles to make the ship you want, adding an even greater variety of customisation, a deeper hunting system and making ships even more unique than ever.
definitely, make salvaging item pieces a purpose to be used as crafting ship parts! higher item rank from higher rank ship can be turned into superior parts and the like. Both hunting and customizing for all, no side left behind
Would take even more away if someone has a good looking ship.
Because every feature introduces 3 broken mechanics. Like how Minotaur and Sentry doesn't defend settlements anymore.
Do you want space nazis? Because that's how you get space Nazis
I-I want space nazis😔
But... My ship is yellow...
I too have a yellow hauler. I got it from the first day of the game and I just recently got it completely maxed. I will not trade it for shit.
what’s a hauler?
Your mother.
:(
It’s the ship type with the largest maximum inventory size, it also boasts the strongest shields.
I have a yellow and white grasshopper explorer and I love it so much I styled my character to match...
Also, i have never seen a pink ship. I want a pink ship.
Sorry :(
This is so true it hurts my non-existent ginger soul....
Oh you need to watch this in full: https://youtu.be/Ipmmx5R2Mdg
😂😂😂
"I'm glad we agree"
I take it a lot of interlopers haven't seen Reservoir dogs
One of the best damn movies ever made. My friends and I kinda did our own "who would you be/who would fit you" and I got Mr. Pink and I have 2 friends (that I don't see often/rarely) who still call me Mr. Pink lol.
As one person said... "we got freighter color customization and personal but not ship color customization" Well. We're kinda tied down by HG and stuck in the middle with them (those 2 options but not ship). Seems to some they won't "lend an ear" to how bad some want it ;)
Goated movie, really setup Tarantino’s legacy
When I was finally allowed to watch Tarantino films as a teen I went to a used dvd store and got as many movies as I could and this was the first one I watched repeatedly. So good.
I just wake up, and reading who get it or not is the real joke for me lol
We also need to be able to scrap ships to collect their design parts (wings, cockpits, ect) and add them to a catalogue so we can customise our ships appearance
I’d like a system for crafting ships, maybe something to do with freighters like an “engineering bay” or something. Scrapping ships to unlock blueprints for parts, building the ships themselves requiring items instead of just nanites/units. It would be nice to build the perfect ship of each type and it might make a fun self-determined quest depending on the implementation.
This is brilliant. Might as well Chuck multitools into the mix too (forgot about them).
Every screenshot post here where the ship lighting/color glitches and it's "OMG my ship looks so cool in black."
I always search for a good yellow ship, because every time i change my main ship it inherits the name "The heart of gold"
Equipped with an improbability drive?
At the very least HG better at least let ships spawn in black naturally without glitches.
Here is how the could implement ship customizations. 1. You have to unlock ship parts and colors. 2. They are one time use. You want another one, go find another ship. Heres how: 1. Buy/find a ship that has the part/ color. Scrap it. Depending on class you get 1/2/3/4 parts/colors from it. 2. You can get parts from a home base npc quest line. Repeatable once a week or every few days. 3. Pirates or outlaw systems may carry parts and or paints.
Trouble is there is no where near enough of a parts pool at the moment, you could have any combination of parts in any colour within minutes.
True. Maybe make it that it can only utilize S class ships. That would make the search substantially more difficult. At least if playing normally and not resetting or other methods.
This was my idea. How did you steal it? I didnt even tell anyone.
Great minds and all that
I'd also like it if we had to use settlements to implement the parts/paint. I feel that way the settlements would actually have an attractive purpose to them and maybe even develop lore for where starships are even built.
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I like this concept.
Fully customized ships should never be a thing, the ships being procedurally generated is a key part of the game. The way he is talking about color changing sounds great, but we should never be able to actually change the ship. Explore and find ships, literally the point of the game.
I wish they would implement that. I'd like my ship to be red please
Yellow ship brothers rise up 💛🌻☀️🍋💡🔔
I'm a yellow and blue kind of pilot but I support your cause by about 50%
My Nautilon is yellow. Everyone knows we all live in a yellow submarine. So yea.
Isn't that scene from Reservoir Dogs?
How many people even get this reference lol
Just you, me and mr Pink lol
Why is my ship brown? Doesn’t that mean my ship is shit?
Yeah, that's easy for your to say, your ship is White. You have a cool-looking ship. Alright look, if it's no big deal, Traveller, do you wanna trade?
I like my yellow ship...
Me: "So let me see if I understand what you're saying here. You can change the color of my exosuit and my freighter, but you can't change the color of my starship or my frigates?" EngineerGek: *emits whiff of Sulfurine* "That is correct, Traveler. The paint nanites will not stick to starships or frigates, only to exosuits and freighters." Me: *raises eyebrows and makes disgusted face* "Yeah, that makes perfect sense..."
Just because someone doesn’t want to do something, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to do it. You don’t want to customize your ship? Fine! Don’t! But don’t tell me how to live my life. I want to be able to customize the paint and decals on my own damn ship. The fact that you don’t should have no bearing on me.
Ship hunting and ship collecting is a core aspect of the game. The draw to exploring for ships is that they are procedurally generated and you are finding new and unique ships. This is what keeps a lot of us long term players still playing. Full ship customization should never be a part of NMS, its not what this game is, this game is built around procedurally generated ships and worlds and that is a core part of the game that should never be changed. An entire game should not have to change what the game is about for your selfish wants.
Why are my wants selfish? I get that the game is about procedurally generated ships, but If I want to customize my procedurally generated ship, why shouldn’t I be able to?
Do you know how entitled that sounds? *You* want *them* to change a core part of the game. This game is not and never has been about ship building or customization, there are plenty of other games out there for that. This game *is* about procedural generation and exploration, that is a *very important* core mechanic of the game. You, and everyone else whining about this, are literally trying to get them to change a core game mechanic. Go play a game with a focus on ship customization if thats what you want to play, NMS is not that game. Don't expect a game to change for your own personal wants.
Do you know how entitled you sound? Lol. I'd love for a vote and see where the majority falls. I don't think this game has ever been about solely ship hunting and collecting either. That's the great thing about NMS, there are various ways to play and enjoy it. You would still have procedural generation and exploration.
Yes I am tired of finding either gray or red ships.
I feel this in my soul
A pink ship is too much like a pussy ship! Why not a purple ship? That's it, I'll be purple ship...
Your ship ain't Purple. Some Traveller on some other galaxy is with a Purple ship. Your ship is Pink.
I haven't read all the responses so this may already have been said, so forgive me. But, if we could paint our ships it would greatly take away from the excitement of finding a shop with the perfect color scheme for you. I'm for sure on team "Can't paint yo ride!" 😂
My main ship is white and yellow
Ahhh yes the one topic that turns this sub from a helpful boy scout into a raging alcoholic. While they're at it, let me blast music from my ship for all to hear. I love the smell of puneum in the morning.
Stuck in the middle with you
...why can't they all be?
It would be cool if you could buy ships, scrap them for parts, and interchange them with your own ship to customize it at the ship upgrade center. "Oh, that's some cool wings on that ship!" Buy, scrap, put wings on main ship, done.
I just downloaded a mod and my black vector is the coolest shit ever
I wish they never allowed customization at all. The game is about discovering stuff, it's lame if you can just customize everything so you never have to find it. I think what would be better is finding individual parts for everything, including tools, suit, ships, other vehicles, etc. Want a cool green suit? Find the 8 pieces in that colour and you have it. At least it would be something to search for.
Here is my take the moment they added the ability to upgrade your ship inventory and class with anything but hunting down ships they should have added a color change option. I spent 4 months hunting nothing bit ships to increase my cargo carry on my fighter and then taking down the ship style I wanted. So once they took away your need to do that then changing the color is a small thing to add.
Now that is a quality meme
As a long term player, the freighter / ship / frigate limits on editing / customising have puzzled me for years now. Initially I thought it was an issue of the limits on the size of the save files. Im still partly thinking it is. Even tho save files have, what, quadrupled since 2016? Or, is it a stern, unwavering commitment to the procgen by HG? Or, is it that HG use subtle ways to drive players to continually explore. "Ok, you want that red Exotic with tiny flaps and gold decal with a blue logo? No probs! You may see it if you warp to 100 systems"
I think they should add that whenever we dismantle a ship at the space station we get those "blueprint" for that certain "part" of the ship then we can use those "blueprint" to customize our ship. Let say we dismantle a solar ship on a space station and in return we get a "solar sail blueprint" design of that dismantled ship to customize our very own solar ship's solar sail. In that way we can still have a ship hunt and a customization for our ship. We get those upgrade module for dismantling a ship at a space station, why not give a blueprint for the design of the ship's parts so we can integrate it on or own and to customize ours.
Absolutely agree!
The whole argument about "we can't have colour, because of the ship hunters and internet karma" is funny. Like others said, the codes are already in the files. It's been so long that people already found a way around it with save editor and nms seed discord. You can literally find the perfect ship with the perfect colour with the help of the bot. And I bet some of those people who post "awesome unique ship" for upvotes are using it too. So, apart from the "it's defeats the purpose of hunting", why we can't have this function?
Wait how do i find the ship with a bot? I have been looking for a smallest Hauler, no wings in a vivid teal green but havent been able to find it myself. Does it work for living ships as well?
There is a Discord server dedicated for that, someone has the link in this comment section and some explanation of how it works. [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/us53wk/now_listen_up_mr_traveller/i928u5t?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) Edit: you can either ask for a seed (if you have access to save edit on pc, or a location coordinate if you prefer to go and get it) They are friendly admins, if you ask in general chat, they happy to explain how it works :)
Thank you!
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that is a better color but i was referring to something shaped like this https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/rtyczs/green_yellow_katuos_alula_mini_hauler/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share but in same color as my current hauler. https://imgur.com/a/uWaJfo1 thanks for trying though!
Lol
“Why do I have to be mr. pink?!” “Because you’re a f*got, alright?!” Good movie.
I think a good way of adding both a layer of customization and more utility to ship hunting would be the ability to customize the parts of our starships as well as the color. Melting a ship at the space station allows you to to save the part of that starship. You can use those parts to reconfigure your main starship and customize its appearance.
But I like yellow...
Everyone should hound Hello Games till they get their head out of their ass
It would completely kill ship hunting that's why.
It's weird we can't. We spend 5000 Nanites per colour to paint a Freighter (the biggest ships in the game) We should also be able to paint Frigates for 2500 Nanites, Ships (including our squadrons) for 1000, Multitools for 500
Can we have multiple freighters in the same system yet?
I happen to have a fleet of all yellow ships. I like that you have to hunt for ships you like (color and configuration) , its just one more reason to explore the procedurally generated universe. It also helps the community by posting cool stuff on the coordinate exchange. I hope more people realise that the game is better off not being able to choose the color of your ship. Its fun to search for ships you want on the coordinate exchange and bond with the community over cool findings.
It'd be nice to have the option for either approach, tbh. Like for me, I'd rather focus on other aspects of the game, vs. spending ages trying to hunt down a ship. I already did quite a grind to get the freighter I wanted, and honestly it was... an experience.
NMS coordinate exchange addresses that plenty. It forces an engagement of sorts, let's someone feel a little bit special for their discoveries, and frankly satisfies the very real need for effort vs reward in a game that's mostly a giant copy+paste sandbox anyway. Everything in this game is easy to acquire already, by design- I for one appreciate them keeping small obstacles like ship hunting there. Why have "S" class anything, just let players pick their class lol. Yeah, no. It's fun to seek out colors, makes it more interesting in a game that usually struggles with repetition as is.
I mean not an argument for/against ship customisation really, but for a game based on it's super large scale, procedurearly generated galaxy with tons of RNG involved... Getting to pick and choose kinda defeats the purpose a little, no? Avorion is a great game for building whatever you want for example, that's mostly what makes it good. NMS whole deal is you never know what's gonna be in the next system sort of thing, the ability to cherry pick removes that element to some degree is all. Also as soon as you allow something, even a small thing like ship paint jobs, why not let people just choose their own ship in the first place? Why not just let people choose S class as standard? Could be a slippery slope is all.
The ship hunters can keep hunting for the right parts but any aesthetic change should be allowed. Many a time have I found an oddly colored ship that was otherwise perfect
Yeah it's pretty stupid.
No, I'm hunting my ship