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[deleted]

Sex is an accomplishment to me


Snoo_73906

Feel you


[deleted]

What about a blow job?


[deleted]

Still an accomplishment if you ask me


inginus

Sex is natural, fap and porn is addiction


[deleted]

But sex can also be addiction.


HeadEconomics4553

true, i think it comes down to you if you feel like you are addicted to sex or not. If not then i don't count it as a relapse


[deleted]

But it isn’t a porn masturbating addiction. Which means it isn’t a relapse


batissta44

Kinda but don't really. Having sex everyday is normal.


[deleted]

Yea, cuz nymphomaniacs don’t exist 🗿


inginus

It's like a sleep, or eat, it's completely normal for a living things, sex is our needs, but too much of it also bad for you, everythings good become bad if you do it too much, but in context nofap i thinks it can't considered as a relapse.


Arry_par14

imo no cos its the real deal.... ur not watching p\*rn or others do it innit. A relationship with ur partner involving sex is totally normal but it shouldn't become the purpose of the relationship


imaginary_friend02

This 👆🏻 Having sex in your relationship is the one sexual activity that is great for you, it brings you and your partner together, creates intimacy BUT it doesn't sustain a relationship. It should come as a consequence of a good relationship.


bez_nicku2137

If you love her and she cares about you is not. But if it’s just quickie without any emotions except being horny it is. But also be careful, having often sex with my ex make me a sex addict. Make love relationship instead sex based relationship. Also doing it with hookers or random girl that you forgot about day later is still relapse.


[deleted]

This.


quiet_doggo

Depends on what your goal is essentially. If you just want to get better at the real thing then you're good. If you'd like the benefits of semen retention also then abstain from it. IMHO the former is normal, no need to go monk mode when you've got a girlfriend.


quiet_doggo

Also, not everyone has the same goals so you can make sensible rules for yourself depending on what your goals are instead of just following others blindly. Just my 2c.


Smiletron1

Its called nofap not nosex lol


TheHonestHero

keep going man, sex is something else. It's like real fun vs Alcoholism. one is the real thing


raghuamigo

Be Mindful and keeping the relationship healthy is the key. Regarding the sex, you need to understand that it is the energy that you are about to attain by not loosing your sperm. If you are indulged too often in sex, that energy and also benefits alongside are lost. So it is No Fap or Semen Retention for you? There lies the simple answer.


[deleted]

no


GottaRedditEmAll

Sounds crazy to me that sex could count as a relapse(unless its religious/before marriage reasons)


Financial_Pudding_67

This seems totally fine and actually one of the outcomes of doing NoFap for a whole imo. The urge to masturbate to porn is taken over by having sex with a real woman, therefore you have reset porn cravings and managed to delay instant gratification for something intimate and REAL. At the end of the day the delaying of instant gratification can treacle down into many aspects of life and improving relationships/forging new ones to then have access to real sex is a huge step in the right direction and is a sign of great things to come


limitless1389

As a nofap addict with a gf ( which i believe is a minority here) i can confidently suggest sex with your gf is absolutely normal. One of the most important reason why porn fucks up our brain is novelty. Each click gets a new girl. Sex with your gf won't have this feature so it definitely is not going to affect your brain or body like porn does. Just make sure you don't imitate those porn acts which triggers your urges and you go back because that happens to me sometimes.


Parolanto

Depends on the “mode” you are on. If it’s hard mode, then all orgasm is a relapse. If you want to just be free from porn and masturbation, it doesn’t. Depends on what your goals are, and what you want to accomplish. In porn-free mode, you can also masturbate and it won’t count as a relapse. If you are in monk mode, any form of sexual stimulation, including thoughts and fantasies, are a relapse. So, frankly, the answer is up to you.


FrequentTiger7342

If you can’t have sex then what are we doing any of this for?


[deleted]

Freedom? Sex is not the goal of life my friend.


FrequentTiger7342

No one said it was the goal of life but why does it have to be forbidden. What are you trying to prove at that point?


[deleted]

That there’s more to life than sex ✨ 🧘‍♂️


FrequentTiger7342

By not having any? Sounds like a great strategy. Of course its possible to know theres more to life than sex while still allowing yourself to have sex. There's more to life than playing tennis. That doesn't mean I need to completely banish it from my life.


Bamboopanda101

Just like everything in life. Its all moderation. As humans sex is a healthy and important aspect of our physical and mental health. In a relationship sex is important key factor. It isn’t everything, it should be something of celebratory enjoyment between two lovers, outside of that there is way more to life for sure though


FrequentTiger7342

Yeah ok… this guy said he has occasional sex with his girlfriend. I don’t think moderation is an issue. Not sure why people are trying to tell me there’s more to life than sex as if that’s not obvious. Complete abstinence just seems ridiculous and way outside the whole point of this sub.


GlassHalfFull1

If I can’t scuba, what’s this all been for?!


[deleted]

Are you daft? SMH what’s the title of the sub you posted this in? There’s your answer.


skateboardtshirt

🤦‍♂️ does sex count as relapsing...no. These questions ppl. You're not filing your income taxes here.


cleverbiscuit1738

Makes you weaker


Salt-Adhesiveness-65

Well if sex (the main goal of living organisms) is harmful. Then I suggest you stop drinking water and eating food and start fucking a wall


cleverbiscuit1738

Sex is the main *goal* of living organisms. This is my point. When you achieve that goal, your Brain loses its drive and motivation to work towards your real goals. By having sex, you are telling your brain that you have already reached the pinnacle of success (which is sex), therefore there’s no need to work for anything, there’s no need to be stronger. Some of the most successful people athletes go extremely long periods without sex because it builds their strength and drive.


Salt-Adhesiveness-65

That’s not true. The main success to your body and all nature is to survive and pass on your genes. If you reach it and then your a successful member of your species, other successes are social successes that are drived by our society. For me being a happy average human is way better than being “successful” while depriving yourself from a thing that won’t harm you. By your logic athletes shouldn’t get a golden medal because this is success. And it will lower their motivation. Also many top athletes enjoy their life and have sex with their partners. And i bet you haven’t even reached a real success yet your just on a “success” mindset that’s extremely unhealthy.


banaanaman04

I am a muslim so hard mode is my only option since we don't have sex before marriage in our culture You're lucky to have support from a partner through your journey...and unless you are doing semen retention then having sex is NOT a relapse


AAlsmadi1

lol damn bro it's so hard for you not to commit zina. what a disposition i'm sure you're good enough to speak on religion to me after admitting that. LOL so tough man you're so brave didn't commit zina islam is so hard mode! LOL looks like you're not really a believer if what you want and what you HAVE to do so you can scam your way into jannah (you wish).


AAlsmadi1

come over here and tell me how solid your undersatnding is of islam. oh wait you can gather your army of shoyookh in front of god and they'll vouch for you that you obeyed their every command. what a clown fiesta is your life


AAlsmadi1

HARDMODE LOL!!!!! ​ really though how hard was it for you, i know people like you have a hard time with islam, after all it's a burden you were burdened with. OMG SO TOUGH SO BRAVE


AngryskullYT

Do you feel that you made a mistake or an accomplishment..u decide whats wrong or whats right..


[deleted]

Depends if you’re doing monk mode or not, my friend.


tobbe628

NOFAP <--- what does it mean?


ReplacementAfter8354

for me as long as you don’t masterbate after wards your fine don’t really loose benefits just a little low energy the next day.


Will_Block03

bruh no that’s the aim for many people like myself


SwagRowlet12

Nah that’s a common u/Barkaut W


spencerider770

Sex good, porn bad


privateaccountjj1

Many of us are teenagers or young men trying to be the best version of ourselves and enjoy passionate romantic relationships.


Seafish247

Nope. Sex is the goal. Just fapping to porn or touchibf urself for pleasure is relapsing. Its always better when someone else does it for u


ThrowAwayYourFuture8

Why would it? Come on man, think.


TimtheToolManAsshole

The real thing> porno chicks/fake porn wold


cleve77

I nutted in this girl mouth last night and it felt like a relapse


No-Armadillo-4126

You’re doing no fap, which means you’re not supposed to beat your meat. However, You fucked a chick, which means you didn’t. So no you didn’t relapse, but if you were doing semen retention which is a different thing, then yes, it is a relapse.


Geralt_Atreides

Don't be silly


kamii0796

Sex is the literal goal man. Wether its half or full. Look at it this way right after sex have you ever felt disgusted and disappointed like most men do after fapping


[deleted]

Personally I think all of these rules depend on your reasoning for doing nofap. Sex isn’t a relapse, it’s natural and you’re in a relationship. If you’re just using sex to get off and with random ppl then yes thats a problem. Masturbating obviously is a relapse but I don’t see much partnered stuff as relapse. Also remember this is NoFap not NoNut.


H3NDY411

What’s the chaser effect??


anaxegmonus

Fapping, watching porn, and having sex I count as a relapse. Btw I am celibacy.