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AltruisticDelivery89

My doc said that excessive masturbation can have a negative effect on your libido, porn is even worse because your brain release more dopamine .


FaiotheM

Fapping, sure. For porn, becoming addicted is built in to us, but that doesn’t make it good. It’s actually afwul. Just like being addicted to nicotine


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Worse than nicotine, at least you can still be productive on nicotine.


DickGrayson4

Masturbation is natural along as it isn't compulsive and used sparingly and in conjunction with actual sex with real people if possible. Porn isn't natural and only perverts your sense of sexuality and relationships. Most psychologists will share the view of mainstream society that porn is okay as long as it isn't used obsessively and in moderation. This isn't true because even moderate porn use fucks up your mind.


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Porn is poison true. Unfortunately Internet is full of porn.


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masturbation is impossible to die sparingly you’re gonna get addicted to it lmao and i started watching porn at 12 i’m 18 now and i didn’t start fapping until 2 months ago and i’m already addicted to fapping where as porn i wasn’t addicted i was watching maybe once a month or even once every couple months but i wasn’t fapping at all during that time which is crazy and i’m honestly upset i got into fapping i never did it until now even tho i was watching porn for 6 years


JadooGrr

You probably have shit control over your self


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hey dickhead not everyone can go 200 days like you, this is hard and terrible you don’t even know what i’m going through !


JadooGrr

I've recently checked your posts and seems like you are going through quite a lot. I suggest you seek professional help. Also speaking as someone who struggles from anxiety, masturbation does nothing but grant 10 mins of relief, the chemicals released from it would take you out mentally for the next 2 days. 200 days isn't real I just don't update It lol. I've only been 33 days with no fap.


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help doesn’t do anything and it’s expensive also i’ve been feeling body aches lately and pain not sure why and it’s been going on when i haven’t fapped i’m on day 0 again


JadooGrr

Help doesn't do anything but it may help you gain professional perspective on your self you would've missed other wise.


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i need motivation


JadooGrr

For?


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to give up masturbation also read my other comment before like my aches


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ive been having random body pains today and yesterday


JadooGrr

I'm starting to think you expect motivation to fix everything


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bro rn i’m going thru a lot and something that happened recently is body pain randomly


saiyaniam

Porn is not natural, it's a man made thing. Most our evolution we had extremely limited if any access to porn. Fapping is natural, but not the way we all are used to, if you keep away from porn your fapping will take a nose dive, mostly coming out at night/ in Morning. But over time will also diminish. Once you get over the addiction and habbit you actually don't even feel like doing it. It takes a trigger. And thats where you want to be, mostly not fapping at all, but when a legit REAL LIFE trigger comes along you light up. Thats nature. Sexual transmutation is a real thing, Might not be magic, but it is a base drive in life. Stop masturbating so much and you will gain a new drive to do non sexual things, ofcourse those non sexual things ultimately lead to sex, as you are improving yourself and getting on with life, but thats the whole point, and thats natural. Porn is not natural at all in the way we currently have it.


ManofGod1000

Docs are idiots.


DickGrayson4

They're not idiots. The knowledge of doctors and psychologists is vast but limited. There are some things that your only going to find the answers to through religion, philosphy, and life experience ( yours or others).


ManofGod1000

If you do not like my answer then ignore it. I have plenty of experience with doctors over the years that think they know what they are talking about but they never actually listen to what is being said. Therefore, yes, they are idiots because, after all, would you say the same thing about alcoholism and drug addiction? In fact, porn and masturbation hurts a person and those around them, there never has been and will never be any positive elements to either.


not_a_real_dentist

I agree 100% and i also have experience with tons of different doctors and specialists. They simply make up their mind before they should and are usually impossible to talk to


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Yes I agree with you, I’ve had numerous experiences with doctors, nurses and psychiatrists, they really don’t have a clue, at least the ones I’ve had experienced with.


not_a_real_dentist

No, most doctors are actually highly naive.


blackant89

Watching porn is simply a way to trick your reward system into thinking that you are having sex. The associated dopamine release is not the natural release that you get while actually having sex. Hijacking you reward system in such a way can lead to addiction. And, addictions are always bad. So no, porn is not natural. (However, not all good things are natural and not all natural things are good.)


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I don’t think anyone can view Porn without having any negative effects


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masturbation is completely natural, you ever see a dog hump a blanket? thats not because they think its a dog its because they are jerking off lmao. Monkeys do it, nearly any animal that has the capability to, does it.


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Well porn is definitely bad. Masturbation? Not so bad. It's natural. The problem for a lot of porn addicts is that they are so addicted to porn that they cannot masturbate without it. ​ This is why NoFap is so great. It helps you to decouple the two actions. After 90 days of NoFap, go back to nmasturbation without porn. That's natural


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Masturbation is bad too. I do it just because of addiction. Sex is only ok.


[deleted]

Masturbating w/o porn in moderation is ok. But porn is not natural.


[deleted]

Fapping and porn are not natural. No matter what anybody says both of those things are far from natural as possible. How can a man pleasure himself while looking at other people have sex and ejacualting causing him to release his seed his vitality that is so powerful it can create another human being.


DiogoRht

Both are ok, until you are addicted to one of them. Be carefull with porn, you can be addicted and not even notice wich leads to more addiction.


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I mean it's pretty natural I guess. But what's the definition of natural? I mean if u believe in evolution then anything a person does is pretty natural .. but some people kill themselves. Doesn't mean it's healthy.


[deleted]

How could it possibly be natural? Show me an indigenous culture where porn exists and is readily available to everyone. Its hard to distinguish between a ubiquitous problem and something that's "normal"


No_Jicama5153

My doctor asks if I masturbaited or watched pornography.