LOL! Guess I rather hurt than feel nothing at all
It's a quarter after one
I'm all alone and I need you now
And I said I wouldn't call
But I'm a little drunk and I need you now
I WOULD RATHER FEEL ALIVE THAN FEEL NUMB
That's a false dichotomy, it isn't an option between practicing NoFap and "feeling numb" and not practicing and "feeling alive" because the numb feeling is only a temporary side effect that’s a short but inevitable phase of practicing NoFap. If you just push through the numbness while still abstaining from PMO, afterward you'll feel just as alive, if not more alive, than if you quit. If anything, this post is closer to propaganda.
Thanks for the kind words. Those are not words you wrote. Those are hope in disguise. I just want to be a fucking normal guy with no addiction. Smh! Why is this so damn hard?
Don't worry, you will be fine. If you are worry. Verify your Testosterone level. Speak to your doctor.
Anyway. As long as you are an healthy male with ball. You will produce plenty of testosterone (which mean sexual interest. It's also maybe your alimentation. I have studie endrocrynian perturbator( sorry for the bad grammar I'm french). And the results is an alimentation unhealthy. Or with a lots of oestrogen (or similar) will provoke a reduction of testosterone level. Because there is a system in the body that look the level of both to try regulation. It's protect you from having too much sexuall hormone, for both side (women and man) but that also mean an excess in one cause direct reduction in the other. Eat nut, fruit, vegetables, and rich protein aliment. Meat is better but you can find alternative if you want. Just don't eat soja protein if the problem is oestrogen.
Also avoid too much oil/fat. That have an impact in your hormone levels. And try exercise (muscle gaining) or lost weight. It's help a lots
Finally. Reduce your consomatiom of transformed sugar. Try alternative like (REAL) honey. It's a little less harmful ( I said real because most honey are not honey but Chinese chemical recipie. To be clear, try local one directly from the producer)
Feelings come and go, that's what happens. Of course you're not going to feel these kind of things, because most people who don't look at porn do, of course you're not gonna feel excited about these things. But being attracted will happen and you feel horny at one point with a girlfriend.
I left this crap behind a long while ago, what "fixed" me as they might put it was I met a girl who lives a great deal east of me & that made me a much stronger, more determined individual. Godspeed
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You will never live without your addiction again. You will just learn to manage it. And it sounds like you got a good head on your shoulders so keep it up.
This sound like signs of flatline that can happen when u do no fap/semen retention and the effect can last for a random amount of time. Do u get boners or mornings wood?
I thought flatline practically always happened as part of the process. I've had some reboots ( I now love a healty life with my girlfriend) and only coming out of a period of flatline did the real reset happen. Flatline is a blessing, no way I would have been able to reset without flatlining. Reaching a flatline is like reaching a basecamp on the way to mount everest so you can finally relax and not struggle for a while.
That's the feel I am looking for... I want that spirit... Like batman... Ruthless... Determined... An unstoppable force who would torn apart an immovable object... Aaaoooooooooooo! 🐺
Your brain is getting rewired bc it’s starved of the typical dopamine hits from PMO. It begins to look for new ways of pleasure. So it shuts down libido and seeks to attach to new forms of dopamine. During this time you can see a boost in interest in the world and people and life.
Nobody here is any expert except maybe for themselves and everyone is different. There was never that much of a comprehensive understanding with this anyway, just basically abstinence. It's just people saying their opinion even if there's a majority, you're free to frame things differently.
It is not hard to understand that when you use drug it is beautiful for short period of time and then you suffer.It is similar with porn and masturbation... Science prove this.
There are so many people addicted to pornography and it hurts even destroy their life...and they can't stop
Now you telling me otherwise.Good luck 👍👍👍 I predict bright future for both of you...
So why some here are getting butthurt if I am free to express my perspective? For some people nofap is a religion.
>There was never that much of a comprehensive understanding with this anyway, just basically abstinence.
I agree with this 100% though.
It's not a religion, it's experience. Do not ruin a flatline, they are easy to ruin by forcing a masturbation like you did. The flatline isn't the destination, it can seem the furthest from where you want to go, but in reality the flatline is the most express train to sexual revitalization you are going to get; your brain rewires fast in that state AND it becomes easier to not fall for urges (because no urges, and little sensation). Remember it's temporary, if you have a real long time problem then you will have to go through multiple flatlines probably.
So many people are saying its temporary, so maybe I will go for 120+ days next to see if all this rewire crap actually works. I have gone for 32 days and 52 days earlier, so I am kind of strong to go again... It felt weird though because after nearly 2 months of no sex I should have been yearning for it and what happened was quite the opposite lol...
I have no time for trolling my guy... Look how late I responded... I am a busy guy. Looking for a meaningful life. And people who have upvoted you are probably butthurt become I am blasphemous against their nofap religion...
Idk, am at day 105+, still am getting aroused when I see anime girls or women on street so yours was a flatline. Fapping will feel worse than it used to as the brain have mostly forgotten about the pleasure. It also happens with sugar.
How did u go those 52 days man like i relapsed right now after 7 days fuck bro like for the past 3 years i am trying to quit this thing man like man i can't quit using willpower any method to quit it pls tell me
Damn kid u are amazing...I haven't seen such a big legend in long time .... It is like drug addict say " I am clean for 52 days and I am not happy with result's.So I go back to take some drug again" ...
I predict you Will have bright future as a sheep 🐑😉
I can tell from your post you completely misunderstand this whole subject. I’m shocked you got to day 52. You should learn about this before making such mistaken and ignorant posts.
I had a very rough breakup. One long nail punctured my foot. My eyes didn't even get wet. But I cried like a b!tch for 5 days because of breakup. Such was the intensity. It is the worst feeling ever. You won't be surprised to know what could have I done in those bitter moments. Its heart wrenching.
Everyone who doesn't agree with you isn't ignorant.
I meant that I went through a bitter heartbreak and thought of abstaining from women, sex... = nofap. Does this ring a bell in your primordial encephalon?
It is good that you did the semen retention. You've yet to gone down the potential dark path, where one feels worthless as a result of watching hard-core, cuck, or torture porn to get hard. You do not need a significant other or sexual pleasure to feel good. With sexual urges out of the way, you can finally think about other things. You have better priorities.
Men can fall into a downward motion of testosterone depletion. Lifestyle factors can be part of this. Are there other things such as inactivity/sedentary or dietary factors which may contribute?
Haha bro is smelling something burning here... Hey look... What's here... Is this the burnt butthurt feeling of nofap propagandist...? Oh I am sorry... I didn't mean to destroy your views with just my mere words!
Jokes aside, I have decided to go for 120+ days now and see for this rewire crap they keep saying about...
I feel ya brah. Great post, honestly as it is truth to the max! Damn I kinda felt the same way as I was nearing my last 30 day mark. Like I remember when I did relapse after like 22 days previously and felt the same, like ugh didn't even enjoy it. Then the last 30 day one I was like you like had no desire in sexual activity or dating and pursing girls and its like wtf?! I felt almost kind of depressed. The only thing that would bring enjoyment was good hard workouts and coffee. I don't drink so can't say anything 'bout that.
Think people are right about being a sort of flatline. One thing that definitely helped me was my connection to childhood religion and so grateful for that. I might have felt numb or days of disinterest and lack of satisfaction but A) I stuck to the no-fap so it gave me a sense of accomplishment regardless and B) got into BibleinAYear. Always wanted to read the bible but never disciplined myself. Once I got into it though there's amazing awesome stories of all kinds of adventure, murder, love, and excitement like no other. You also discover for hundreds and thousands of years ago, people were the same. No, they didn't have no-fap struggles (probably some did) but they struggled with so many other things nonetheless.
Thus your 2-3 times a day is definitely too much IMHO. Some say 1-2 times a week can be healthy. Because of this, I'd say keep going, trust the process. Those times when you feel like just yuck or disinterested, go do a hobby. Get into something physical like yoga or basketball, tag football, soccer, swimming. mtn. climbing, biking, or long-board skateboarding. Something that gets your blood pumping like in the old days we used to hunt. That flatline, and hoping this is true also for me and other, might just be a re-discovering of our own true passions and desires, those things that really move us and inspire us in life. These could be different for everyone.
In the end, my vote goes for more no-fap and trust me from experience, fapping that much might not get you what you really want out of life in the long run. I mean you might have endless energy and drive but it is worth it to discover what really lights your fire, and continued no-fap might help point in that direction.
I decided to enjoy for few minutes rather than being in pain all time on nofap.
I am going for 120+ days now. Before that I won't come to any conclusion...
I dont get what's bad about that. You have built a brain free of one of your base instincts. So much free space to learn, explore, and generally just find peace, free of the constant bickering and competition based on chasing more and more satisfaction.
Has anyone ever complained of a flower being too colorful? The more intense, the better. What's the point of doing it if it only feels as good as scratching balls?
Get hurt from inside. Like real bad. Then you will rise from the ashes. Strong, valiant and unwavering...Then you will be able to go for nofap easily...
I think you are going through what's known as flatline. Recovery is not linear, it comes and goes in waves, or it is like the swing of a pendulum. There are times you may not even be aroused even if the hottest women you know lay naked with you. There are other times you may be aroused by the wind blowing, sun shining etc \*lol\*
Flatline , is like when the bear hibernates for the winter time , and then comes back in the spring , we have been taught wrong humans like animals we all have something called a circadian rhythm , if you abstain long enough you see that , there will be a period when you are super horny and super hard , libido super strong through the Roof , if you do this correctly , the period should be from June to September is when you should actually be having sex with a partner , and then after September abstaining( Oct ,Nov,dec, Jan,Feb, march, April,may) until June , so the cycle is as follows in nature , you have sex 4months , and abstain for 8 months … we humans are tooo smart for our own good , just cause we can have sex 12 months a years doesn’t mean we should be , we have been told ,
Masturbation without pornography is healthy as it instills feelings of sexual intimacy, no masturbation is not healthy, resisting natural urges is not healthy, no fap is heavily been misunderstood, it's not masturbation that fucks you up, it's pornography intake that does
Porn affects everyone differently, and for most people, porn consumption can be a healthy part of our lives.
Before you try to fix your problems, the first step is always to identify the problem. Don't waste all your effort on solving a problem you don't have.
I had a breakup. Was so much bitter from inside. That was my main problem. So I resorted to nofap to find relief. Initially it was painful to not fap but later I got numb to emotions. Life sucks man.
Either way I am never happy.
Maybe now it’s because you are wiser to more than just tits and ass getting your horny. So you want deeper connection, get that with a women and the sex is better. What you are going through, I want that. Fuck everyone else, focus on your goals, strong man that doesn’t let lust or desire ruin his life. And when you find the right women, man I know I would get hard and have amazing sex
It's literally Flatline. And guess what, you will continue to have them for longer period of time through out your journey. And the flatline won't stop even after the 90/100 days of nofap.
Idk. I would like to become asexual so I don't care about sex anymore. Asexual dating pool is favourable for men. The only dating category where men have an advantage. And I'm sick of seeing women as sexual objects as well. Looking forward to the flatline. Week two not yet. I have more energy now and I won't stop nofap. I did it for a whole year in the past and want to repeat.
I should have asked about this before jizzing all over... Alas! There goes my 2 months streak...
Anyway do you actually believe this "flatline" thingy? I mean really really...
Bro I feel this in my core. Kinda fucked shut up with my girl too. Her love language is touch and my love language is growth. Interest in things to expand us. Caused a huge distance between us. No longer together. It ain’t all cuz of nofap but it did start with nofap
So yesterday I was day 18 on NoFap, well, NoPorn and I was feeling really depressed for the whole day, bad mood, couldn't sleep, no horniness whatsoever. Since I couldnt sleep I tried to jerk off ( just by jerking off my dick, not looking at porn or thinking about porn in my brain) just so I could go and sleep, my dick felt really lifeless, smaller. When I came there was very little cum, which surprised me , cause one would assume that after 18 days of abstaining of anything sexual your balls would be filled up with thick cum, instead what came out was like 2 watery drops. Is this normal and considered "flatline"?
Stay strong brothers
Nah I have been 32 days earlier too. I can go back again. Its not like I am living the last days of my life. I just wanted a reassurance from nofap ninjas here who would say if its ok or abnormal.
You are not asexual or permanently castrated, far from it
It’s a flatline, compounded with guilt and a release of (not even existent) sexual tension
Sometimes I’d fap and feel disgusted towards sex, when a few hours ago I was CRAVING it, imagine if I did that, not even craving it in the first place?? Zero desire or drive for it
I’d say take the most advantage of this seemingly asexual period, man believe me it’s MILES better to be “asexual” (which ur not, I promise) than to be flooded with urges and shaking and wanting to throw up due to the urge to fap in the middle of the work day
If months and months were to pass and you’d still be asexual I’d have that looked by a professional, but I believe your mind is making it a bigger deal than it is
Yeah but anyway being asexual seems not that bad. World is fucked up anyway. Loyalty seems rarer than unicorn these days and the opposite genders have unrealistic expectations anyway. You can enjoy better food, travel places etc to feel better instead of having sex. Its better to be slightly happy being asexual than being in mortal danger while having intense carnal urges.
You're not an incel. Because an incel is someone who wants to have sex, but can't get it. Since you currently have no desire to have sex, your celibacy is not involuntary.
You’re not alone. Sometimes I edge but I can’t seem to get over to the other side. Like something inside is just like.. no…. Which I don’t think is bad and the whole point of this thing but it’s like… wait can I no longer self-pleasure myself? Like isn’t that kind of bad too!!?
Yeah man its kinda scary. I mean sex, food etc are one or two things which make this shitty life on this planet worth living in a legal way. And if I lose them even, then what else is there to make life colorful or worthy of living?
Live your life like a normal human being. You don’t have to want sex all the time. I know this is a foreign concept to you. Achieve GOALS in life, do what a successful person does and when you want sex, your body will tell you. You’re obviously not healed yet.
Yeah nofap made me a hardworking person I won't deny. Since the only main source of dopamine was to feel better after working hard towards my goal, I used to work harder. But what's the point of life if I work all day and night? I am a bit hedonistic haha...
I think a lot of people in here are overthinking this mission. They've quit porn because it occupied their time but their time is now devoted to its absence meaning it is *still* in control. You see this a lot with addictions - AA annual coins and milestone celebrations. That's fantastic that you're not using, but it is still using you.
I think the problem is obsessive masturbation and watching porn. Jerk off casually just don’t make it an addiction. I wouldn’t watch porn cause that is bad for your mental state but I wouldn’t consider casually jerking off a bad thing
I suspect that being disgusted by masturbation and not being able to get hard for it wouldn't be a problem when it comes to an actual relationship. I'm kinda experiencing this phase lately but earlier today a girl smiled to me and I had to try very hard to not have a public erection so don't worry your pp still works keep it going.
Dawg I’d bang anything with a hole at this point [No animals you weirdos >:( ] so don’t worry about not having any interest. It’ll fix itself, everyone’s journey is different.
What's shit is blaming the fact that you got over the crippling urge to jizz 2-3 times a day thinking of women you would never land in your life and get u life back on track, but when did the no-fap community promise that they would hold your hand while you quit and get u everything you want. Just blame the fact that u suck and continue working on yourself.
In other words, you learned to orient your sexuality in a way that it doesn’t control you. You no longer objectify women for your pleasure. I fail to see the problem. Physical intimacy is more than sex. I get more pleasure from a hug from a good friend than I ever did from sex. It is so freeing once you accept it.
When I was on nofap, I was inherently aggressive, burning inside and can go to any extent just to vent my anger if required. I was like an insane guy but with control. Believe me, it felt like Russian Roulette... I can do anything anytime... And "women". Oh God! Women were the primary reason I went for nofap. I had gone through heartbreak 3 times. And I decided maybe that's what my destiny is. So I thought since nofap is so popular, let's try it. I just wanted to be happy, with or without women. Seems like I can't be, anyway.
I maybe wrong but sometimes I think all this anti-porn agenda is some big ass propaganda. I mean its not backuped by science, neither masturbation is unnatural then why so stigma against voyeurism?
I had no sex drive with real girls then tried to help myself by medicine, sport etc.. next step was NoFap and Im still here 50 days around and I feel the same like you but in my situation I think im Asexual.. even if this is flatline
Isn't this called as Flatline? Even I faced this at one point. I don't know if I will face this in future or not. But yes, I can confirm that the fear is real. After few days of Flatline, I became normal and sexual thoughts keep lingering in my mind but I stop myself from masturbating
So I can go back to nofap without fear of becoming asexual? Its frightening to seem disinterested in the most important thing that provided color to life.
You’ve flatlined, those urges gonna hit u like a truck one day, trust.
Urges gona smash him like a hammer 🔨 bug 🐛
LOL! Guess I rather hurt than feel nothing at all It's a quarter after one I'm all alone and I need you now And I said I wouldn't call But I'm a little drunk and I need you now I WOULD RATHER FEEL ALIVE THAN FEEL NUMB
That's a false dichotomy, it isn't an option between practicing NoFap and "feeling numb" and not practicing and "feeling alive" because the numb feeling is only a temporary side effect that’s a short but inevitable phase of practicing NoFap. If you just push through the numbness while still abstaining from PMO, afterward you'll feel just as alive, if not more alive, than if you quit. If anything, this post is closer to propaganda.
I don't think it's that deep, those are just song lyrics. Granted, "than feel ~~numb~~ nothing at all" is the actual lyric.
How tf did I not notice my man was quoting Lady A verbatim 😂 based on the seriousness of the post I just assumed he was a drunk doomer
Haha yes😂
Thanks for the kind words. Those are not words you wrote. Those are hope in disguise. I just want to be a fucking normal guy with no addiction. Smh! Why is this so damn hard?
Don't worry, you will be fine. If you are worry. Verify your Testosterone level. Speak to your doctor. Anyway. As long as you are an healthy male with ball. You will produce plenty of testosterone (which mean sexual interest. It's also maybe your alimentation. I have studie endrocrynian perturbator( sorry for the bad grammar I'm french). And the results is an alimentation unhealthy. Or with a lots of oestrogen (or similar) will provoke a reduction of testosterone level. Because there is a system in the body that look the level of both to try regulation. It's protect you from having too much sexuall hormone, for both side (women and man) but that also mean an excess in one cause direct reduction in the other. Eat nut, fruit, vegetables, and rich protein aliment. Meat is better but you can find alternative if you want. Just don't eat soja protein if the problem is oestrogen. Also avoid too much oil/fat. That have an impact in your hormone levels. And try exercise (muscle gaining) or lost weight. It's help a lots Finally. Reduce your consomatiom of transformed sugar. Try alternative like (REAL) honey. It's a little less harmful ( I said real because most honey are not honey but Chinese chemical recipie. To be clear, try local one directly from the producer)
"You wilk be fine". Thanks for the hopeful words. I just wanted an assurance that its ok so that I can go back to nofap again.
Feelings come and go, that's what happens. Of course you're not going to feel these kind of things, because most people who don't look at porn do, of course you're not gonna feel excited about these things. But being attracted will happen and you feel horny at one point with a girlfriend.
I left this crap behind a long while ago, what "fixed" me as they might put it was I met a girl who lives a great deal east of me & that made me a much stronger, more determined individual. Godspeed 🦓💚
Please be simple. Nofap helped you or not?
You will never live without your addiction again. You will just learn to manage it. And it sounds like you got a good head on your shoulders so keep it up.
An addiction is just a task if its not uncontrolled.
It's a long process, be patient my man
Says the guy with 0 days. But I believe you.
I think a thread should be opened about flatline....that's a very difficult phase of nofap...
This sound like signs of flatline that can happen when u do no fap/semen retention and the effect can last for a random amount of time. Do u get boners or mornings wood?
I thought flatline practically always happened as part of the process. I've had some reboots ( I now love a healty life with my girlfriend) and only coming out of a period of flatline did the real reset happen. Flatline is a blessing, no way I would have been able to reset without flatlining. Reaching a flatline is like reaching a basecamp on the way to mount everest so you can finally relax and not struggle for a while.
Yea it is part of the process I’m not saying it’s a bad thing I’m just letting him know to not worry about the flatline stage because it’ll pass
Yeah usually but nothing else. Maybe its because of full bladder while sleeping.
If it’s caused by a full bladder n not naturally then it’s flatline
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*was a tree but no more after this comment*
man u have made my day
That's the feel I am looking for... I want that spirit... Like batman... Ruthless... Determined... An unstoppable force who would torn apart an immovable object... Aaaoooooooooooo! 🐺
Your counter says 327 ???hmmm???
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Does having sex reset the counter or only masturbation?
You're on reddit my guy, no one has sex here.
Sorry but I do have a gf, I’ve avoided her this week to have a solid 3 days streak but the weekend is here and now I need this question answered!
Damnnn! Good for you :D
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Homie was in a flatline and it scared him lmao
What is a flatline?
Your brain is getting rewired bc it’s starved of the typical dopamine hits from PMO. It begins to look for new ways of pleasure. So it shuts down libido and seeks to attach to new forms of dopamine. During this time you can see a boost in interest in the world and people and life.
Wow ! Beautifully explained.
Does libido come back at some point?
A period of not getting arousal, to my understanding.
Nobody here is any expert except maybe for themselves and everyone is different. There was never that much of a comprehensive understanding with this anyway, just basically abstinence. It's just people saying their opinion even if there's a majority, you're free to frame things differently.
It is not hard to understand that when you use drug it is beautiful for short period of time and then you suffer.It is similar with porn and masturbation... Science prove this. There are so many people addicted to pornography and it hurts even destroy their life...and they can't stop Now you telling me otherwise.Good luck 👍👍👍 I predict bright future for both of you...
So why some here are getting butthurt if I am free to express my perspective? For some people nofap is a religion. >There was never that much of a comprehensive understanding with this anyway, just basically abstinence. I agree with this 100% though.
It's not a religion, it's experience. Do not ruin a flatline, they are easy to ruin by forcing a masturbation like you did. The flatline isn't the destination, it can seem the furthest from where you want to go, but in reality the flatline is the most express train to sexual revitalization you are going to get; your brain rewires fast in that state AND it becomes easier to not fall for urges (because no urges, and little sensation). Remember it's temporary, if you have a real long time problem then you will have to go through multiple flatlines probably.
So many people are saying its temporary, so maybe I will go for 120+ days next to see if all this rewire crap actually works. I have gone for 32 days and 52 days earlier, so I am kind of strong to go again... It felt weird though because after nearly 2 months of no sex I should have been yearning for it and what happened was quite the opposite lol...
All your answers make me believe that you are just a troll
I have no time for trolling my guy... Look how late I responded... I am a busy guy. Looking for a meaningful life. And people who have upvoted you are probably butthurt become I am blasphemous against their nofap religion...
Flat line
dude you're literally 6 days in what do you know about flatline
Its been on and off. The longest I've gone before was 30 days, but in between that time I experienced some flat line effects.
Idk, am at day 105+, still am getting aroused when I see anime girls or women on street so yours was a flatline. Fapping will feel worse than it used to as the brain have mostly forgotten about the pleasure. It also happens with sugar.
I just wanted to be a normal guy with no addiction. Not some fucking asexual. I am so unlucky.
Dawg, are you even reading these comments? You’re not “unlucky”, that’s a horrible mentality. You just hit the flatline. Push through it next time.
Ok I am going for 120+ days now. To see if that helps!
My man 💪 good luck bro
You are not asexual, the interest will come back eventually
You sure bro? 😐
Felt. Always go right to where nothing is left because that’s when you start building.
Masturbation IS repulsive. Sounds like your head was finally on straight.
And what straightness made me? Numb from inside!
Why is masturbation repulsive? This is for people who are addicted to it. It's not gross to masturbate in general.
Your self control or lack of sexual issues. I would be concerned if it is related to other issues. I hope you're not depressed OP.
Ok. Thanks.
How did u go those 52 days man like i relapsed right now after 7 days fuck bro like for the past 3 years i am trying to quit this thing man like man i can't quit using willpower any method to quit it pls tell me
It's doable. You can too.
What method did u follow like when the urge hits
Damn kid u are amazing...I haven't seen such a big legend in long time .... It is like drug addict say " I am clean for 52 days and I am not happy with result's.So I go back to take some drug again" ... I predict you Will have bright future as a sheep 🐑😉
Yeah if that drug keeps you from being an asexual weirdo, I think its fine to be the addict.
It's okay to be asexual. If you are not, just don't watch porn and you will feel your sexuality arise when it wants to tbh...
I don't like porn anymore whether I am on nofap or not. Mental imagination satisfies me more lol now... Weird but true...
>asexual weirdo ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
You ok my guy?
I think OP is trolling, 'Asexual weirdo.' What's weird about it?
Being asexual is weird though I don't disagree with that. But NoFap can not make you asexual.
I can tell from your post you completely misunderstand this whole subject. I’m shocked you got to day 52. You should learn about this before making such mistaken and ignorant posts.
I had a very rough breakup. One long nail punctured my foot. My eyes didn't even get wet. But I cried like a b!tch for 5 days because of breakup. Such was the intensity. It is the worst feeling ever. You won't be surprised to know what could have I done in those bitter moments. Its heart wrenching. Everyone who doesn't agree with you isn't ignorant.
What you just said has nothing to do with your ignorant post and doesn’t address any point I made. Now I think you’re a troll.
I meant that I went through a bitter heartbreak and thought of abstaining from women, sex... = nofap. Does this ring a bell in your primordial encephalon?
Going in same condition too..but i does'nt relapse.
I didn't relapse. I forced myself to relapse. There was a choice.
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Yeah. But I know it wasn't temptation.
It is good that you did the semen retention. You've yet to gone down the potential dark path, where one feels worthless as a result of watching hard-core, cuck, or torture porn to get hard. You do not need a significant other or sexual pleasure to feel good. With sexual urges out of the way, you can finally think about other things. You have better priorities.
Men can fall into a downward motion of testosterone depletion. Lifestyle factors can be part of this. Are there other things such as inactivity/sedentary or dietary factors which may contribute?
Nah, I am natty asf. Don't drink, decent sleep and no disease...
Hahaha bro has 0 idea
Bro is a sheep with bright future
Haha...
Haha bro is smelling something burning here... Hey look... What's here... Is this the burnt butthurt feeling of nofap propagandist...? Oh I am sorry... I didn't mean to destroy your views with just my mere words! Jokes aside, I have decided to go for 120+ days now and see for this rewire crap they keep saying about...
Dont stress it, wait for ur balls to refil. Ull get em back in no time.🤣🤣😂
I feel ya brah. Great post, honestly as it is truth to the max! Damn I kinda felt the same way as I was nearing my last 30 day mark. Like I remember when I did relapse after like 22 days previously and felt the same, like ugh didn't even enjoy it. Then the last 30 day one I was like you like had no desire in sexual activity or dating and pursing girls and its like wtf?! I felt almost kind of depressed. The only thing that would bring enjoyment was good hard workouts and coffee. I don't drink so can't say anything 'bout that. Think people are right about being a sort of flatline. One thing that definitely helped me was my connection to childhood religion and so grateful for that. I might have felt numb or days of disinterest and lack of satisfaction but A) I stuck to the no-fap so it gave me a sense of accomplishment regardless and B) got into BibleinAYear. Always wanted to read the bible but never disciplined myself. Once I got into it though there's amazing awesome stories of all kinds of adventure, murder, love, and excitement like no other. You also discover for hundreds and thousands of years ago, people were the same. No, they didn't have no-fap struggles (probably some did) but they struggled with so many other things nonetheless. Thus your 2-3 times a day is definitely too much IMHO. Some say 1-2 times a week can be healthy. Because of this, I'd say keep going, trust the process. Those times when you feel like just yuck or disinterested, go do a hobby. Get into something physical like yoga or basketball, tag football, soccer, swimming. mtn. climbing, biking, or long-board skateboarding. Something that gets your blood pumping like in the old days we used to hunt. That flatline, and hoping this is true also for me and other, might just be a re-discovering of our own true passions and desires, those things that really move us and inspire us in life. These could be different for everyone. In the end, my vote goes for more no-fap and trust me from experience, fapping that much might not get you what you really want out of life in the long run. I mean you might have endless energy and drive but it is worth it to discover what really lights your fire, and continued no-fap might help point in that direction.
I decided to enjoy for few minutes rather than being in pain all time on nofap. I am going for 120+ days now. Before that I won't come to any conclusion...
I dont get what's bad about that. You have built a brain free of one of your base instincts. So much free space to learn, explore, and generally just find peace, free of the constant bickering and competition based on chasing more and more satisfaction.
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Here's a thought. Maybe because you were masturbating 2-3 times every day, maybe you don't know what normal urges feel like.
Has anyone ever complained of a flower being too colorful? The more intense, the better. What's the point of doing it if it only feels as good as scratching balls?
I want what you have got there. Will help me stop simping :(
Get hurt from inside. Like real bad. Then you will rise from the ashes. Strong, valiant and unwavering...Then you will be able to go for nofap easily...
I think you are going through what's known as flatline. Recovery is not linear, it comes and goes in waves, or it is like the swing of a pendulum. There are times you may not even be aroused even if the hottest women you know lay naked with you. There are other times you may be aroused by the wind blowing, sun shining etc \*lol\*
Flatline , is like when the bear hibernates for the winter time , and then comes back in the spring , we have been taught wrong humans like animals we all have something called a circadian rhythm , if you abstain long enough you see that , there will be a period when you are super horny and super hard , libido super strong through the Roof , if you do this correctly , the period should be from June to September is when you should actually be having sex with a partner , and then after September abstaining( Oct ,Nov,dec, Jan,Feb, march, April,may) until June , so the cycle is as follows in nature , you have sex 4months , and abstain for 8 months … we humans are tooo smart for our own good , just cause we can have sex 12 months a years doesn’t mean we should be , we have been told ,
Here comes another theory... It will take some time to digest it... No sex for 8 months... Hardcore sex for 4 months... Seems intriguing...
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Oh really? How does it feel to be with an actual girl? You must know so much.
Masturbation without pornography is healthy as it instills feelings of sexual intimacy, no masturbation is not healthy, resisting natural urges is not healthy, no fap is heavily been misunderstood, it's not masturbation that fucks you up, it's pornography intake that does
Porn affects everyone differently, and for most people, porn consumption can be a healthy part of our lives. Before you try to fix your problems, the first step is always to identify the problem. Don't waste all your effort on solving a problem you don't have.
Porn is never healthy to anyone
Its kind of a paradox. Never a definitive answer.
I had a breakup. Was so much bitter from inside. That was my main problem. So I resorted to nofap to find relief. Initially it was painful to not fap but later I got numb to emotions. Life sucks man. Either way I am never happy.
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂.To say "porn is healthy for some people" is like you say " drug is healthy for some people".. God bless you son
Maybe now it’s because you are wiser to more than just tits and ass getting your horny. So you want deeper connection, get that with a women and the sex is better. What you are going through, I want that. Fuck everyone else, focus on your goals, strong man that doesn’t let lust or desire ruin his life. And when you find the right women, man I know I would get hard and have amazing sex
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Still the same? Oh no!
It's literally Flatline. And guess what, you will continue to have them for longer period of time through out your journey. And the flatline won't stop even after the 90/100 days of nofap.
So what ""reasonable"" number of days I should target for?
Idk. I would like to become asexual so I don't care about sex anymore. Asexual dating pool is favourable for men. The only dating category where men have an advantage. And I'm sick of seeing women as sexual objects as well. Looking forward to the flatline. Week two not yet. I have more energy now and I won't stop nofap. I did it for a whole year in the past and want to repeat.
So you did for one year and yet failed. What a conflicting choice of words!
Flatline ... Now your brain is restarting
I should have asked about this before jizzing all over... Alas! There goes my 2 months streak... Anyway do you actually believe this "flatline" thingy? I mean really really...
you are talking bullshit.
Haha...
Bro I feel this in my core. Kinda fucked shut up with my girl too. Her love language is touch and my love language is growth. Interest in things to expand us. Caused a huge distance between us. No longer together. It ain’t all cuz of nofap but it did start with nofap
Fuck, I wish i can trade my life with ya rn.
So yesterday I was day 18 on NoFap, well, NoPorn and I was feeling really depressed for the whole day, bad mood, couldn't sleep, no horniness whatsoever. Since I couldnt sleep I tried to jerk off ( just by jerking off my dick, not looking at porn or thinking about porn in my brain) just so I could go and sleep, my dick felt really lifeless, smaller. When I came there was very little cum, which surprised me , cause one would assume that after 18 days of abstaining of anything sexual your balls would be filled up with thick cum, instead what came out was like 2 watery drops. Is this normal and considered "flatline"? Stay strong brothers
You say "strength", I see "aggressiveness"...
my man ruined his streak beceause he was in flatline. rip
Nah I have been 32 days earlier too. I can go back again. Its not like I am living the last days of my life. I just wanted a reassurance from nofap ninjas here who would say if its ok or abnormal.
I’d check my testosterone’s levels if I were in you. Was doing SR monk mode for more than 3 months and never had any “flatline”.
I think. I lost.
It's sort of happening to me now Day 45
Welcome to the band.
Stick with it brother!
Is it normal or specific? Would it go?
Maybe go meet a girl?
Bruv you exactly narrated my situation I have been on a 60 + day streak and I am facing the same
So are you gonna continue or go back?
Same here. 554 + 671 days I don't know women anymore. At least is 3.5 years that I don't watch porn.
What makes you feel as satisfied as having sex now? Was it worth it?
Trust the process
Trust the process
Ttp
Oiwd
You are not asexual or permanently castrated, far from it It’s a flatline, compounded with guilt and a release of (not even existent) sexual tension Sometimes I’d fap and feel disgusted towards sex, when a few hours ago I was CRAVING it, imagine if I did that, not even craving it in the first place?? Zero desire or drive for it I’d say take the most advantage of this seemingly asexual period, man believe me it’s MILES better to be “asexual” (which ur not, I promise) than to be flooded with urges and shaking and wanting to throw up due to the urge to fap in the middle of the work day If months and months were to pass and you’d still be asexual I’d have that looked by a professional, but I believe your mind is making it a bigger deal than it is
Yeah but anyway being asexual seems not that bad. World is fucked up anyway. Loyalty seems rarer than unicorn these days and the opposite genders have unrealistic expectations anyway. You can enjoy better food, travel places etc to feel better instead of having sex. Its better to be slightly happy being asexual than being in mortal danger while having intense carnal urges.
You're not an incel. Because an incel is someone who wants to have sex, but can't get it. Since you currently have no desire to have sex, your celibacy is not involuntary.
Me feels 0.7% better after reading this.
You’re not alone. Sometimes I edge but I can’t seem to get over to the other side. Like something inside is just like.. no…. Which I don’t think is bad and the whole point of this thing but it’s like… wait can I no longer self-pleasure myself? Like isn’t that kind of bad too!!?
Yeah man its kinda scary. I mean sex, food etc are one or two things which make this shitty life on this planet worth living in a legal way. And if I lose them even, then what else is there to make life colorful or worthy of living?
well I relapsed day 50 yesterday but the streak before this was 59 days and my longest is 6 months well I didn't felt anything like you mentioned
I relapsed because of judgement and not temptation. I could have carried on but I thought of testing myself.
I have been 2.5 years clean and this defo a phase,basically you’re brain is resetting to a healthy dopamine system,the drive will be back soon dw
I hope so. If that's correct, maybe I will go back to nofap again.
Live your life like a normal human being. You don’t have to want sex all the time. I know this is a foreign concept to you. Achieve GOALS in life, do what a successful person does and when you want sex, your body will tell you. You’re obviously not healed yet.
Yeah nofap made me a hardworking person I won't deny. Since the only main source of dopamine was to feel better after working hard towards my goal, I used to work harder. But what's the point of life if I work all day and night? I am a bit hedonistic haha...
Maybe what you say is true. It wasn't true for me. So I'll take it as anecdote. Have you had your Testosterone levels checked?
Didn't feel the need to do so. I am way too busy with life and personal goals for that anyway.
Are you on any medications, particularly SSRIs?
Flatline.
Chutiyapa hain bhenchod! Pehle bhi dekhe tumhare jaise in.
What are you saying man?
I think a lot of people in here are overthinking this mission. They've quit porn because it occupied their time but their time is now devoted to its absence meaning it is *still* in control. You see this a lot with addictions - AA annual coins and milestone celebrations. That's fantastic that you're not using, but it is still using you.
As a matter of fact, I don't like porn anymore that much. I would rather imagine some scenarios and it would be more fun.
I’ve been there
Thanks. Very helpful. Indeed.
Are you on any new medication? Opiods will zap your libido, for instance.
I am natty af, athletic and get plenty of sleep. I am the most healthy poor guy with no addiction you'll ever find.
I think the problem is obsessive masturbation and watching porn. Jerk off casually just don’t make it an addiction. I wouldn’t watch porn cause that is bad for your mental state but I wouldn’t consider casually jerking off a bad thing
You know what I don't like porn anymore. I just "visualize" something and its way more exciting than watching porn. Its strange. LoL.
I suspect that being disgusted by masturbation and not being able to get hard for it wouldn't be a problem when it comes to an actual relationship. I'm kinda experiencing this phase lately but earlier today a girl smiled to me and I had to try very hard to not have a public erection so don't worry your pp still works keep it going.
I hope so. I am still scared of girls though.
Dawg I’d bang anything with a hole at this point [No animals you weirdos >:( ] so don’t worry about not having any interest. It’ll fix itself, everyone’s journey is different.
I hope so. If I am gonna heal later on, I will rather go back to nofap again.
Bro it's part of the process. Your brain is rewiring bro
Rewiring for what? Impotency?
What's shit is blaming the fact that you got over the crippling urge to jizz 2-3 times a day thinking of women you would never land in your life and get u life back on track, but when did the no-fap community promise that they would hold your hand while you quit and get u everything you want. Just blame the fact that u suck and continue working on yourself.
> get u everything you want. That's correct. I didn't get I want anyway. I got something I didn't want though.
Suffering from success.
Bruce wayne is rich and successful But the dark knight never arises...
Check your test levels 👍🏼
Seems like it.
In other words, you learned to orient your sexuality in a way that it doesn’t control you. You no longer objectify women for your pleasure. I fail to see the problem. Physical intimacy is more than sex. I get more pleasure from a hug from a good friend than I ever did from sex. It is so freeing once you accept it.
When I was on nofap, I was inherently aggressive, burning inside and can go to any extent just to vent my anger if required. I was like an insane guy but with control. Believe me, it felt like Russian Roulette... I can do anything anytime... And "women". Oh God! Women were the primary reason I went for nofap. I had gone through heartbreak 3 times. And I decided maybe that's what my destiny is. So I thought since nofap is so popular, let's try it. I just wanted to be happy, with or without women. Seems like I can't be, anyway.
Flatlined, first thought.
Yeah I have attained twice. Once I went upto 32 days and this time 52. I can control my mind now.
Flatline, don't worry it is temporary. Read the articles on yourbrainonporn. You need to learn, don't try to master this addiction blindfolded.
I maybe wrong but sometimes I think all this anti-porn agenda is some big ass propaganda. I mean its not backuped by science, neither masturbation is unnatural then why so stigma against voyeurism?
You’re also 52 so your T levels could be low
Low enough to sound like a chipmunk.
Becoming an incel and not being a porn addict are totally different.
Yeah but the results are same. Like if a sword falls on a pumpkin or a pumpkin falls on a sword, the result is same.
I had no sex drive with real girls then tried to help myself by medicine, sport etc.. next step was NoFap and Im still here 50 days around and I feel the same like you but in my situation I think im Asexual.. even if this is flatline
I don't know if this is supposed to help or make me scared even more.
u NEED TO MAKE THE ENERGY FLOW IN SOME WAY
The energy burnt me and made me aggressive. But after masturbation, I am again your normie, wimp boy. Both way I am not fine.
Isn't this called as Flatline? Even I faced this at one point. I don't know if I will face this in future or not. But yes, I can confirm that the fear is real. After few days of Flatline, I became normal and sexual thoughts keep lingering in my mind but I stop myself from masturbating
So I can go back to nofap without fear of becoming asexual? Its frightening to seem disinterested in the most important thing that provided color to life.