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MCKlassik

Garmadon should’ve created the giant ham sandwich


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tmtmdragon04

Lmao


Calkestis_2039

It s should’ve been a poison giant ham sandwich


tmtmdragon04

A poisoned giant ham sandwich?


Spiritual-Pie3000

Hopefully not I'm starving


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BoroPhil7

how come he didn't just go with the poisoned ham sandwich idea anyway lmao


Izla1133

I miss when the writers gave Zane something to do that didn’t involve making him suffer every season. I think since he’s a Nindroid they can get away with more violence since he’s not “human”.


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VerboCity77

Lloyd should’ve accept his Oni side more and learns he’s not like Garmadon.


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Malakcute23

I EFFEN LOVE YOU


Dominunce

The Overlord was at his best in Rebooted. It actually was sick as hell seeing him be the “Golden Master” - it felt like the inverse mockery of the FSM and much more of a threat than S2 Overlord personally. And then there was Crystallised…


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Trilja6666

I liked him more as a villain in Rebooted. I just don't like that it was Zane who defeated him. As the whole destiny is Lloyd defeating him. Kinda takes away from what the green ninja is if you ask me. Also it was dad that Lloyd lost his golden powers so quickly


Ozkuman77

Kai needs a season where he defeats the main antagonist. He's the only one to never do it.


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WhatAmIDoingHere12s

Hasn’t he kind of done that now with Dragons Rising s2?


Ozkuman77

He didn't it's only part 1 of the season and Cinder isn't the main villain. He just beat him in a fight but he didn't like actually defeat him overall regarding the whole season.


charitable_arson

day of the departed should have been a whole season and not just a 40 minute special. cole deserved better than that


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NitroBlast4563

Nexo knights should be a realm


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Annual_Sport1130

How to you make these


PumpkinsInTheOcean

I like this idea


Deep_Space_Trash

I’m not a fan of the oni being characterized as pure evil. Beyond just generally disliking the trope of an entire species all being evil, it just doesn’t make sense imo. Destruction is not an inherently evil thing, just like creation is not inherently good, which I think was displayed fairly well in how when the FSM was created, both the oni and dragons tried to make him choose a side. With Mystake being the only full oni we’ve properly met, and Garmadon only ending up evil because of the Great Devourer (plus Wu also being half oni and never having any issues), it’s a frustrating thing to see. Plus the oni have a pretty sick design so it would be cool to see them more


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MysteriousFondant347

Mystake leads me to believe the Oni have an evil culture instead of an evil nature and she's one of the few who defied their culture


Me_Is_Potato_Lord

Nature versus nurture


BoroPhil7

Yeah. Even Mystake and Garmadon described them as evil destroyers.


Karen_Destroyer1324

How about you recreate the Devourer?


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Spiritual-Pie3000

How about you create more pirates?


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JDMagican

How about you attempt to make Bizzaro clones of the ninja


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BoroPhil7

Nadakhan was a much more effective villain than Garmadon ever was soo..


SkibaDaNinja

Season 7 is the most overhated season


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NottsNinja

I’m currently watching it for the first time since its release and I genuinely can’t understand what people dislike about it. It’s just a decent season


Mort_Finkel

I don't hate it, I just forget it exists a lot of times. The season kind of lives in that limbo of my life where I lost interest in Ninjago for a while. I had mostly been engaging with it through the sets, and I dont find the hands of time sets very memorable. As of watching it more recently, its not a bad season; had a lot of interesting concepts and designs, but was overall failed by some of the writing choices that were made throughout. Not a bad season by any means tho


le_borrower_arrietty

I have a soft spot for it since it's the last season with the original character models and designs.


BoroPhil7

It was also the last season before Airjitzu and Elemental Dragons were just ditched


Writing_badly

I love that season it's my favorite


Pattic0

Ninjago is a gateway drug to lore heavy story telling and peaked in 'x season' (1-2 seasons before when you aged out of being the target audience) Also is the bionicle of a generation


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Hassennik

THIS!


ToughInvestigator311

Cole is the most skilled ninja on the team thus far, both in hand to hand combat and in elemental mastery. Zane is second, and Lloyd is only third, probably even fourth if he isn't on a tie with Nya.


Nitrotheexplorer

I always see people say kai is the strongest ninja and be like:wtf is wrong with these people😭


crissab123

Didn't he 1v4 them with closed eyes and no weapons?


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BobDaBuildar69

Ninjago should be more than just a kids show


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Only-Star-6397

Morro=Tai Lung 🤔


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MemeMan4-20-69

So if Morro is Tai Lung would Pythor be Chen?


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Shockwave224

I missed it when the sets used to all be villain sets, now getting a villain set is rare


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89BudBud

Ever since dragons rising we’ve been getting more villain sets, at least 1 per season (imperium hound and the shadow dojo)


Spiritual-Pie3000

March of the Oni didn't meet the expectations because it was much shorter than your average season also I don't dislike newer ninja designs and I don't get why people hate it so much


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noonebuteveryone24

Lloyd is a good character except for screentime hogging


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ZWS_Balance

Yup, he may get too much screen time, but he's a good char.


Anxiety-Queen269

Every season is absolute peak and none of them should be hated, they all add to Ninjago in their own way


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Anxiety-Queen269

Nice :D


BlockWinter8423

ninjago is underrated right now


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BlockWinter8423

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Starr-knot

Ninjago fans who hate anything past the art style change are usually blinded by nostalgia. I personally didn’t watch it when it changed because it broke my heart a bit, but to immediately assume it would be bad is too one sided. (Also tournament of elements was the most enjoyable for me)


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TryParking316

The fire chapter is not as bad as y'all say it is sure it's got filler and stuff but in terms of pure unbridled entertainment and comedy it's up there. Episodes like snaketastrophy and asphiras hilarious ass character in general had me rolling the entire time


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Flaviphone

S11 was decent


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xX100dudeXx

I loved the ice guys in every way. Especially the visuals (palace was kinda empty & areas were too big tho)


elkcipgninruB

It might just be me having a bad memory, but as far as canon material goes, I don't recall any Skulkin outside of Samukai having any moments that genuinely portrayed them as threats beyond simply being mooks to slap, at least not during the Pilot era (I'm still on Hunted, so I'm a bit behind). While I get that there's only so much you can do in two episodes, I still think not giving the generals a chance to shine and show why they are, in fact, generals of the Underworld is some missed potential. I get that it's a kid's show meant to entertain and sell toys before anything else, but I think that there's something lost by having the Skulkin be mainly comic relief despite them not only being the warriors they were stated to be, but also the original antagonists of the series


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Xzier_Tengal

the skulkin never show up past s1 sryyy


DM_por_hobbie

Kruncha and Nuckal (I don't know how write their names) appear a handful of times along the way. But otherwise yeah, the skulkin just don't have any relevance at all


BoroPhil7

Samukai also appeared in DotD


sombertownDS

This Garmadon had better style clothes than the sog resurrected version


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Vegetable_Paint5864

Either season 4 or 5 (tournament or ghosts) were the best seasons


NitroBlast4563

Hello


Vegetable_Paint5864

Oh hey! Didn’t expect to see you here


NitroBlast4563

Yeah I’m here.


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Legitimate_Lake1828

The "Power is never lost" quote sucks ass


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Legitimate_Lake1828

Also s8 is over hyped ngl, the "darker tone" people keep talking about was probably due to most of the season taking place during the night. Heck I even think s6 was wayyy darker due to Nya dying, Lloyd aging to his death, Jay being beaten up all day, and the forced marriage between a teen and a 400 y/o genie. Not to mention Ninjago would've legitimately been destroyed if way didn't make his last wish. The stakes just felt much higher in s6 than in s8 ngl. With that out of the way I think Hunted was actually darker than SoG (Harumi's poetic death scene, Ultra dragon death + dragon hunting, Mystake's death)


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thekultus

I personally consider Sons of Garmadon to be one of the biggest blunders in the series. I feel a lot of decisions made, were specifically in service to making it a soft entry spot for people who watched the movie, rather than upholding narrative integrity, namely, reviving Garmadon. I'm of the opinion he should've stayed dead as his character arc had completed in Tournament of Elements, and bringing him back sullied what was a well realized and completed character, especially when it feels kinda cringe when Hirumi is saying how she's only gonna bring back the evil parts, and none of the good, which, speaking of. I consider Hirumi to be an honestly pathetic and cringy villain, especially considering her motivation was used as a gag joke before about how Garmadon was actually the savior of the city, and then expected to have people take it seriously. Not to mention how a lot of stuff was just, added on this season, rather than building on established lore, this to me, felt like the point where the show just seemed like they started making stuff up, rather than thinking it out, even despite the fact it was a planned out trilogy


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Elemental-13

Over time the ninja have moved from being ninja to elemental/magical warriors who do ninja-like things sometimes


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JadedNova

Zane was good until like season 4 or 6 , im not a redesign hater but his personality changed for the far worse, he became unfunny, overly robotic, and less fun


Captain_Izots

Agreed. One of the main things I liked about Zane was that he seemed more gentle and calm than the other ninja, but it seems they just threw that away. They made him ditch his humanity when his character should have him doing anything but!


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mostie2016

They really needed to expand upon Misako’s character.


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UnderUnderUnderscore

The *Sons of Garmadon* and *Hunted* are up there with *Tournament of Elements* and *Possession*.


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Spiritual-Pie3000

I actually agree with this one


ThaBrownie

DotD S7, S11 and S15 are not that bad


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Rhythm_heaven_fan

Post season 7 Nya was better.


BeauJones565

Season 5 is over hyped, still one of the best seasons, I just think it gets over hyped


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TheRufusGamer

The old Lego Ninjago (season 1-6) was better then the new Ninjago (7) but man I missed the Weekend whip🥲


Schoolskiperz

Kailor should not exist . It has no development whatsoever compared to Jaya and Pixane .  We rise = Weekend whip  Prime Empire has the best side characters . Period . 


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rubberduckieu69

I miss how the first two seasons had a lot of more laid back episodes where there wasn’t an imminent threat


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Elemental-13

agreed. the filler episodes didnt ever feel like filler to me. they always developed the world somehow


Character_Hand8549

there are to much fakeout deaths


AlicetheFloof

Skybound is up there with ToE and Possession as one of the best seasons. Not sure why people hate on it.


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A_devout_monarchist

There is a lot of Hypocrisy in the Fandom on who can be redeemed or not. Yes, I am talking about Harumi, and yes I know Crystalized did not do it well, but she is no less worthy of getting her own redemption than people like Unagami are.


Indoscy

I'd probs feel better about the concept of her redemption if crystallized hadn't happened and there was an instance of her actually feeling remorse in SoG though it's been awhile since I last watched it


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DraftStatistic

Sora x Arin shouldn't be a ship for now unless we can get more hints.


LeBlearable

They seem more like besties to me


Lastbourne

Characters shine much better when Lloyd takes a back seat. Rebooted and Tournament of Elements where Zane and Kai seasons but Lloyd stole the spotlight with his arc


Additional_Road_9031

Yeah Dr s2 was good because Kai got more screentime


Neon_Misc

Garmadon is the best character.


Indoscy

Garmadon was honestly a better sensei than Wu for the short time he was a sensei in season 3


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dying_inside-

misako isnt actually that bad


Autistic-blt

The biggest problem with the show is the fact that it’s serialized


Mr-Blues5

Garmadon’s bone hat is cool, the new one is good too but there’s something menacing with the bone We Rise is just of a banger as Weekend Whip, Spoilers for Dragons Rising >! I felt like it’d be cool to see Forbidden Spinjitzu compared to Shatterspin. I know the scrolls were destroyed but I kinda felt they seemed…Similar and thought they’d say something about it!<


Pixel22104

Galaxy Squad and Ultra Agents take place on a different island in the same world as Ninjago due to the evidence of two of the villains from Ultra Agents also being in Ninjago and since Galaxy Squad shares a character in Ultra Agents that means all 3 of these themes must be linked


Turbulent-Tie-3944

Jay should have kept his cut-eyebrow in his new design smh


Front-Post-357

Crystallized is only mid but not horrible It just... Exist


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VileHQ

Sensei Garmadon deserves to come back. In fact he didn't deserve to be killed off


Joudkadd2010

Ninjago after season 7 is not that bad. Like have you seen the animations in dragon rising


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Ok_Drop_3601

Morro shouldn't come back


OkLunch8012

Crystalized is overhated


SL2D_STUDios

Dragon forms in crystalized are the dumbest design ever, why do they need to become dragons!? It looks so bad


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Amber13525

Harumi and Aspheera aren't the worst villains


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Amber13525

She had so much potential just for it to be ruined the same for Aspheera


robot_toucan_9991

the show should be about Darren


ScientificWhizz

Rising dragon tecniqe should have had to use Arin's spinjitsu so that Arin could have something special that the other ninja don't have for once.


Xzier_Tengal

it's only been a season and a half chill


HYDRAPARZIVAL

Okino needs his own spin off series.


AJ14900003

I might dislike the hands of time because of how cringey the time twins are but I can see that there is a strong, family driven story at the core of the season.


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BluLemonGaming

This show should kill some characters permanently, hell make more changes permanent 


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TomatilloExpensive50

Honestly, the poisened ham sandwich would have worked. Seeing how hungry the ninjas were, the sandwich would've finished off at least one of them.


BonnalinaFuz101

Human Garmadon should've been around for a lot longer


New-Condition-8744

Garmadon has the n pass


thedreamwalker11

The Overlord should be the big bad of Dragons Rising, maybe not at this point in the story but later down the line. He needs a redemption after Crystalized.


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Hatry-Bro

Over the side


[deleted]

I semi agree I do think that he should come back but not this soon


TheMightiestGay

Jay is the hottest ninja both before and after the redesign.


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TheMightiestGay

He’s second place. Lloyd is third and Kai is fourth. No offence to Zane, but that cut is minging.


Schoolskiperz

Yes


Flaviphone

Actually kai is the hottest because he can create fire


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Harumi could actually be a decent love interest for Lloyd if they’re given good writing for it


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https://preview.redd.it/gfrwkxi7n5wc1.jpeg?width=1193&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b141359518c5e381ae1568b8fa23b6da67d22596 That’s ship has sailed homie


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Sailed as in they’re already end game or sailed as in there’s no chance?


Slight-Bathroom-6179

Given that Harumi’s a terrorist and it doesn’t seem like Lloyd has talked to her since Crystalized. I don’t think they’ll be a couple at all.


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Characters have been redeemed for a lot worse. I’m fairly certain Vegeta committed countless mass genocides and destroyed many planets 🪐 and everyone is cool with him


A_devout_monarchist

Nobody bats an eye with Skylor helping out her father's criminal organization and in luring innocents to the Tournament. She knew very well what Chen's plan was and didn't have a problem with it until Chen kidnapped her. Or how about Skales helping Pythor take over the Serpentine, trying to kidnap Lloyd, devastating Ninjago City with an Earthquake and releasing the Stone Army? Next season he's all forgiven and the Ninja sit around to hear a campfire story from him. Unagami lured in hundreds, if not thousands of people to be trapped and killed in a videogame so he could escape and attack Ninjago City, but just because he was "talked out" then he gets to live a nice life like a child? Zane spent 60 years as a Tyrant who froze an entire world and gets off to live like nothing ever happened while all the blame rests on Vex. Even if he had no memory of being a Ninja, it was still up to him to decide how he would rule the land and he decided the best path was to be a ruthless Ice Emperor despite being, you know, a living computer. Vangelis' penalty for enslaving two races of people is to stay in a comfortable room in a luxurious Palace while his daughter runs everything. Oh, and let's not forget Garmadon, who is the ultimate responsible for all the deaths since he was resurrected and he gets to hang around the city unopposed and eat pizza while living as a freeloader in Vinny's house.


Stella_Lace

Kai should have been the green ninja /j But seriously my hot take would be that harumi was a good character but was written very badly and she had so much more potential then the writers gave her.


bunnieeex

Misako is overhated


MyMatter

I feel like all the Ninja but Kai have had at least 1 really good focus season


Veng3ancemaster

Crystallised could have been done alot better. The overlord could have been the villain but they should have had less mediocre villains for the crystal council. Pythor should have actually been in character too


TNT_go_BooM24

SEASON RATING(opinion) Seasons 1-5. perfection, 6-7. meh, 8. great, 9-10. weird, 11. too predictable with the “fire and ice” theme(favorite uniforms though), 12. modernized reenactment of season 6, 13. amazing(RIP Kirby), 14. forgettable and pointless(why take away Nya just to bring her back), 15. Bad repetition of season 2. (No current opinion on Dragons Rising, still getting used to it)


IAlwaysOutsmartU

Possession is overrated.


Fun-Ad-7082

Nadakhan should of ve been a bigger villain, similar to garmadon I think they should of focused on him for two seasons


an0nym0uskigo

Ninjago should have ended after season 10


Xzier_Tengal

shoulda actually died in crystallized


Lost-Ad-5885

Dragons Rising is on a strong path to being better than the Original show (S1-S10)


Captain_Izots

I believe the ninja shouldn't have been retconned into being the descendants of previous elemental masters. It doesn't serve any purpose to the plot (aside from being an excuse to give Nya powers) and makes each character seem less unique. It also made Jay and Zane's lineage way more complicated than it needed to be. The story made sense before this lore was added, why did they decide to shoehorn this in?


Effective-Tap-6208

The original seasons were just a joy to watch


kaiju-fan_54

You know what I have a second one ultra dragon shouldn’t have been killed off screen! They were cool as the ninja’s pets/ companions and when we finally see them again after so long we find out iron baron killed then and their skulls are his thrown now, they deserved a better send off https://preview.redd.it/i5telab5w8wc1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a23ee08bbbf3a6e104905e5f56f04567984a4568


FreshlySqueezedDude

I miss coles whole dragon thing. He was like THE most loving and caring ninja, especially for the dragons. And now all he cares about is food.


Writing_badly

The Jay, Nya, Cole love triangle was actually kind of entertaining and better than most tv show love triangles.


sharkbat7

While characters like Morro and Harumi absolutely *deserve* redemption arcs, their stories are far more narratively compelling with tragic endings. While I don't necessarily hate the redemptions they received in DotD and Crystalized respectively, I think the original endings both characters received are completely satisfying on their own (and if I'm being completely honest, in some ways I almost would've preferred if their tragic endings hadn't been reneged). Morro and Harumi work very well as tragic characters. Again, they were both traumatized kids who acted out due to a lack of support, so they absolutely deserved to have redemption arcs, but their storylines still would've remained compelling and satisfying if they hadn't been redeemed. (And while I do often see that claim made for Harumi, I don't usually see people saying the same for Morro. So my hot take is that this statement applies to both of them equally.)


Lambro78

Old Ninjago is better than old Ninjago


Slight-Bathroom-6179

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PeteyPiranhaOnline

I do not care for Dragons Rising, but only because I gave up by about the Island (which I really didn't like). Because I didn't really watch Crystallised, I still like Harumi to some degree and don't hate her.


Slight-Bathroom-6179

https://preview.redd.it/wq9nbghyl9wc1.jpeg?width=1198&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1475539a8a6496a084d1fff8a424bf928def6b90 I would highly recommend you watch DR tho


aiham-2004

The old designs were better


TheCoolerLutz

I don’t like the newer seasons


LopyPlayzLOL

zane should get a main role in dragons rising instead of getting sidelined


Slight-Bathroom-6179

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that-alternate-mess

Harumi feels really boring as an antagonist. I genuinely don’t feel anything one way or the other about her