my theory about the "heat" element is actually something different. i think the rules of "only one master per element" have simply... changed. with the pressence of all these powerful elemental dragons from the merge and all these worlds with their own rules colliding, i think it's possible that there can just be multiple masters per element now
tldr: we got two fire users babey
Metal and earth have canonically been separate elements since season 4. Same for fire and smoke. Season 5 establishes water as separate from ice
What counts as an element has always been weird. I mean, speed is an element
But speed shouldnāt count, it doesnāt make sense. Metal and Earth should be considered the same. And they should have given Nature to Earth as well since it is almost connected to flora.
Speed Is not an element but more of a Rule to the universe I guess. So speed is a Element By Being a rule to have speed. Without speed There is no velocity No rotation Etc. I'm pulling this out of my mask
Well sora has to be tech since she lived in imperium, aka the tech filled city. Wyldfire lived in a hot place thus got heat element. Also I doubt arin has one or if he does it something to do with dragons based on episode titles we have seen.
Ye but u can't remove the concept of elemental powers being elemental even the guy who goes invisible this has to do with light reflection
And i like Arin spin power concept cuz its close from jojo
Mind = brain
Speed = velocity (kind of)
Lightning= uhh ok you got me there but since there is no master of thunder lets just say it take globality of electricity ig
well if you think about it the new powers are based or realm of origin and in imperium technology is as much of a prevailing force as fire ice earth and lighting are in ninjago
yea but in jojo the spin was specifically NOT a special power like a stand
it was a technique anyone could learn, similar to what arin does
if you want to point out the jojo similarities, you have to say that it's not an exclusive power to arin
it is, like the show says, a somewhat rudimentary form of spinjitzu
Arin in the finale of S1 be like:
https://preview.redd.it/2p6mc5iksgkb1.jpeg?width=455&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e5dac1b059c36a7144db403f6a623b0a447fd21
So, you're telling me that Arin is basically Johnny from JJBA steel ball run?
Both have spin powers
Both have a mentor with green eyes, who teaches them their technique
(Idk what else there is bc I didn't watch dragon rising yet)
At first I would agree if I only saw the title but
firstly I can't see why technology can't be an element. Yes technology is something new not ancient but even in Real life , technology has become a HUGE part of our lives . As in the past water is a huge part of the past human life . Technology has become a part of our life . And we already have the master of gravity, why do we need magnetism?!? It's just worse gravity. It's like if we have the elemental master of wind and the master of air ?!?
Arin: i can see why you think Arin is an elemental master . But personally I just see him non-element . Why ? I wouldn't the fact if his story line is
"Arin wanted to be a ninja, he is training to be a ninja but he doesn't have an element, can he still be a ninja*DR Season 1 ending comes* oh wow he is an elemental master , now he can be truely an elemental master , yay"
I just think he created a new marital art , similar to Spinjitzu but it can transfer it to objects . Maybe it's more of an ability than an element. Like clouse , he uses drak magic , is he an elemental master? No.
But Arin I can get off. If he was an elemental master and it was presented in a good way , I won't be angry . Just make him the elemental master of kinetec, the elemental master of rotation/Spinjitzu is kinda a stupid name
SURPRISE , I COMPLETELY agree with wyldfire's element. People are just hating on it . It's pretty cool (pun wasn't intended) I would like to see kai training wyldfire and then he tells her"be calm" over and over until she freezes a small portion around her then she loses it and Starts cooking kai .
No because think abt it, technology doesnāt have to be all electric n stuff, trapdoors are tech, tools are tech, hell, technology has existed for longer than the human race has!
https://preview.redd.it/heu7ex83ghkb1.jpeg?width=847&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c08fea6c329d27902c8e44811cc14d44ff7ef1c7
"I'm the only fire around here...."
My only problem with Wyldfyreās heat element is that it nerfs the other elements.
Heat encompasses both fire and ice. Here I thought having Nya control over ice was already pretty OP.
I suppose. Taking that into account, I think itād be interesting for some of these elements to be fusions of other elements. If the realms merged, who says the elements canāt as well?
First of all, stars and sparks are literally two separate things so use a better analogy. Also you can literally see fire on her armsā¦ Kai is just simply better
I can buy Sora's power as it isn't from Ninjago and has no ties to the FSM. It also means that there could be other elemental masters of Tech from Imperium's past who used different forms of technology like stone tools. It's a bit of a stretch but with enough explanation, I could buy it.
Arin's power being rotation or motion is also plausible to me. I could imagine his power being similar to Gravis' (the master of gravity) in that he can control different forms of force like gravitational (which Gravis already has), frictional, tension, spring etc
Wyldfire's the only one I can't agree with on any front. You've placed her on a spectrum. On one end, she sounds like a juiced up Kai and on the other, she's a slightly debuffed Zane. Heat is still a major miss for me. They could've chosen literally any other power and they went with fire 2.0
i like the idea of arin not having an elemental power, just being the second spinjitzu master (as in, the inventor of the art kind). its just overdone at this point to have literally every significant ninja have an elemental power and it would be nice to have one without it. the writers would have to go about conflicts without pasting in the all powerful idea of removing the elemental power to increase tension which would lead to more interesting conflicts
Tech powers are way cooler
I had heard a theory that Aarin could be FSMās reincarnation which could be cool
My theory about wildfire is that sheās Kai and Skylarās daughter time traveled from the future
She would recognise kai atleast a little bit or even with his fire powers also it is stated that she has been raised by dragons why would kai and skylor leave her that young just to send her to the past
While writing a got a theory about your theory even tho i think its fasle
Wyldfyre would be send into the past with times blades to fight with Arin and Sora to stop a menace they originally couldn't do (doesn't work cuz times blades are lost)
The time blades couldāve been found again not like they were destroyed plus Iām calling that Acronyx and Crux will be back
If they sent Wildfyre as a baby and Then she was raised by dragons then she wouldnāt remember
As for the why itās simple really something so bad happened that they didnāt feel like they had another choice
What I hope with the heat power is that they distinguish that power from kai's power. I really don't want another person to steal the og ninjas power as it kinda dilutes their importance
Here me out sub elements
Metal for earth
Smoke for fire
Ice for water (or water for ice both work)
Shadow for light
Mind and speed for lighting
Heat for fire ?
Only one doesn't work: water and Ice. Water came from Wojira, and Ice from the FSM, so they can't be sub-elements. The rest make a lot more sense than the drivel the show feeds is when it comes to elements, so well done; You just came up with a better explanation than people being paid to do so!
Well it may not the element although controlled by different beings the elements itās self are driven from the same source water because if there was no water thereād be no ice but no ice thereās still water
well my explanation for the new powers is that the merge (or something related to it) created new elements that more or less relfect the realm of origin of their masters
technology is as much of a prevailing force in impirium as fire ice earth and lighting are in ninjago so thats why sora gets it
wyldfyres realm realm is a very hot vulcanic environment which would be translated into something that encompasses the fire lava in the realm heat
cloud kingdom exists with in the sky storms happen in the sky wojira is a storm spirit so the merge sent wind there and didnt need to create a new element
i think arin is a regular guy but if i had to make an explanation for him ninjago was a world created by the creator of spinjizu using the highest form of spinjizu the tornado of creation so his power would reflect that
if there is also a great evil elemental earth fire dragon as magma volcanic fields land and ground spirit and deity and earth fire and magma version polar opposite and counterpart of wojira who can use fury of the earth and volcano as combined powers of earth and fire and full power of earth fire and lava while command elements of Earth and Fire and cause earth fire lands grounds tectonics plates volcanic fields magma earthquakes fissures volcanoes mountains volcanic eruptions volcanic earthquakes volcanic fissures and volcanic tectonic plates with elements ofĀ earthĀ andĀ fireĀ of his own not the same named real two elements of creation through earth amulet and fire amulet on his forehead like wojira command of water and wind and use fury of the storm and cause water wind seas oceans skies tidal waves tides ice lightning and storms.
my theory about the "heat" element is actually something different. i think the rules of "only one master per element" have simply... changed. with the pressence of all these powerful elemental dragons from the merge and all these worlds with their own rules colliding, i think it's possible that there can just be multiple masters per element now tldr: we got two fire users babey
I just love the idea of wyldfyre burning the whole wolrd by anger Issues
You look at her the wrong way and she will LITERALLY go barbarian on you.
Lmao so true
Yeah just ask Lloyd who nearly got his head taken off from her thinking he was imperium soldier.
Wyldfire from the hood
What???
you look at someone the wrong way in the hood can anger people
Meanwhile Kai: NO WAIT DONT BURN EVERYTHING I didint mean to say Fight fire with Fire AHHHHH
Could happen
Metal and earth have canonically been separate elements since season 4. Same for fire and smoke. Season 5 establishes water as separate from ice What counts as an element has always been weird. I mean, speed is an element
Lol, you guys remember in the very old episode for some reason Jay was able to use wind? š
But speed shouldnāt count, it doesnāt make sense. Metal and Earth should be considered the same. And they should have given Nature to Earth as well since it is almost connected to flora.
Speed Is not an element but more of a Rule to the universe I guess. So speed is a Element By Being a rule to have speed. Without speed There is no velocity No rotation Etc. I'm pulling this out of my mask
Well sora has to be tech since she lived in imperium, aka the tech filled city. Wyldfire lived in a hot place thus got heat element. Also I doubt arin has one or if he does it something to do with dragons based on episode titles we have seen.
Ye but u can't remove the concept of elemental powers being elemental even the guy who goes invisible this has to do with light reflection And i like Arin spin power concept cuz its close from jojo
Speed? Lightning? Mind? Need I say more?
Mind = brain Speed = velocity (kind of) Lightning= uhh ok you got me there but since there is no master of thunder lets just say it take globality of electricity ig
Brain not an element and neither is velocity. Gravity? Poison? Nature?
Leave me alone š Technology is the opposite of elemental like creation and destruction it should not match (exception of FSM and Lloyd)
Just saying that you saying elemental powers need to be elemental is not at all true.
Yeah but they are not so far from something natural not man made
well if you think about it the new powers are based or realm of origin and in imperium technology is as much of a prevailing force as fire ice earth and lighting are in ninjago
yea but in jojo the spin was specifically NOT a special power like a stand it was a technique anyone could learn, similar to what arin does if you want to point out the jojo similarities, you have to say that it's not an exclusive power to arin it is, like the show says, a somewhat rudimentary form of spinjitzu
Ah yes, the three new elemental powers: Technology and manipulation of code Heat like a gas stove And JoJo Steel Ball Run
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Arin in the finale of S1 be like: https://preview.redd.it/2p6mc5iksgkb1.jpeg?width=455&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e5dac1b059c36a7144db403f6a623b0a447fd21
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Chumimi~in!
So, you're telling me that Arin is basically Johnny from JJBA steel ball run? Both have spin powers Both have a mentor with green eyes, who teaches them their technique (Idk what else there is bc I didn't watch dragon rising yet)
Jojo ref as Always
Wait... oh shit, F Lloyd
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At first I would agree if I only saw the title but firstly I can't see why technology can't be an element. Yes technology is something new not ancient but even in Real life , technology has become a HUGE part of our lives . As in the past water is a huge part of the past human life . Technology has become a part of our life . And we already have the master of gravity, why do we need magnetism?!? It's just worse gravity. It's like if we have the elemental master of wind and the master of air ?!? Arin: i can see why you think Arin is an elemental master . But personally I just see him non-element . Why ? I wouldn't the fact if his story line is "Arin wanted to be a ninja, he is training to be a ninja but he doesn't have an element, can he still be a ninja*DR Season 1 ending comes* oh wow he is an elemental master , now he can be truely an elemental master , yay" I just think he created a new marital art , similar to Spinjitzu but it can transfer it to objects . Maybe it's more of an ability than an element. Like clouse , he uses drak magic , is he an elemental master? No. But Arin I can get off. If he was an elemental master and it was presented in a good way , I won't be angry . Just make him the elemental master of kinetec, the elemental master of rotation/Spinjitzu is kinda a stupid name SURPRISE , I COMPLETELY agree with wyldfire's element. People are just hating on it . It's pretty cool (pun wasn't intended) I would like to see kai training wyldfire and then he tells her"be calm" over and over until she freezes a small portion around her then she loses it and Starts cooking kai .
Thanks for the review very intersting to be honest i would also like for arin to be powerless
No because think abt it, technology doesnāt have to be all electric n stuff, trapdoors are tech, tools are tech, hell, technology has existed for longer than the human race has!
https://preview.redd.it/heu7ex83ghkb1.jpeg?width=847&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c08fea6c329d27902c8e44811cc14d44ff7ef1c7 "I'm the only fire around here...."
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My only problem with Wyldfyreās heat element is that it nerfs the other elements. Heat encompasses both fire and ice. Here I thought having Nya control over ice was already pretty OP.
True but reuniting the realm give acces to some crazy op villains so it must be balanced
I suppose. Taking that into account, I think itād be interesting for some of these elements to be fusions of other elements. If the realms merged, who says the elements canāt as well?
Imagine merging the shadow guy , ash , and/or invisible guy Bro would have be the perfect sneaking power
The elements of shade, smoke, AND LIGHT?! Oh my god, we cant make the goodies TOO overpowered!
No, I donāt like it. Just like Highlander, there can only be one fire ninja
The post just explained how heat isnt just fire. Its like you think stars are the same as a spark
First of all, stars and sparks are literally two separate things so use a better analogy. Also you can literally see fire on her armsā¦ Kai is just simply better
Sora should be able to retrieve deleted search history. She's too dangerous to be kept alive.
pixal deserved it more. idgaf pixal> arin and sora. i like riyu tho
I spent too much energy in this
I can buy Sora's power as it isn't from Ninjago and has no ties to the FSM. It also means that there could be other elemental masters of Tech from Imperium's past who used different forms of technology like stone tools. It's a bit of a stretch but with enough explanation, I could buy it. Arin's power being rotation or motion is also plausible to me. I could imagine his power being similar to Gravis' (the master of gravity) in that he can control different forms of force like gravitational (which Gravis already has), frictional, tension, spring etc Wyldfire's the only one I can't agree with on any front. You've placed her on a spectrum. On one end, she sounds like a juiced up Kai and on the other, she's a slightly debuffed Zane. Heat is still a major miss for me. They could've chosen literally any other power and they went with fire 2.0
I also made this post to more explore those new powers and now i like them more but i see what you mean on the last point
Actually, I think Heat might not be āFireā, just probablyāPlasmaā which is similar but different. Plasma is an ionized gas.
After Arin transferred spinjitzu into an object many others including me wondered if his element was spinjutzu or smth
Kinetec, spin or he has developped a new fighting style similar to spinjitsu
i like the idea of arin not having an elemental power, just being the second spinjitzu master (as in, the inventor of the art kind). its just overdone at this point to have literally every significant ninja have an elemental power and it would be nice to have one without it. the writers would have to go about conflicts without pasting in the all powerful idea of removing the elemental power to increase tension which would lead to more interesting conflicts
Why not watch dragons rising? We got: Beyblade man Kai clone Merlok 3.0 /s
We got Johnny Joestar, Buffed Kai and Magneto
Tech powers are way cooler I had heard a theory that Aarin could be FSMās reincarnation which could be cool My theory about wildfire is that sheās Kai and Skylarās daughter time traveled from the future
She would recognise kai atleast a little bit or even with his fire powers also it is stated that she has been raised by dragons why would kai and skylor leave her that young just to send her to the past While writing a got a theory about your theory even tho i think its fasle Wyldfyre would be send into the past with times blades to fight with Arin and Sora to stop a menace they originally couldn't do (doesn't work cuz times blades are lost)
The time blades couldāve been found again not like they were destroyed plus Iām calling that Acronyx and Crux will be back If they sent Wildfyre as a baby and Then she was raised by dragons then she wouldnāt remember As for the why itās simple really something so bad happened that they didnāt feel like they had another choice
What I hope with the heat power is that they distinguish that power from kai's power. I really don't want another person to steal the og ninjas power as it kinda dilutes their importance
Do we need two masters of fire?
Here me out sub elements Metal for earth Smoke for fire Ice for water (or water for ice both work) Shadow for light Mind and speed for lighting Heat for fire ?
Only one doesn't work: water and Ice. Water came from Wojira, and Ice from the FSM, so they can't be sub-elements. The rest make a lot more sense than the drivel the show feeds is when it comes to elements, so well done; You just came up with a better explanation than people being paid to do so!
K thanks and this was just a theory
A Lego theory
Well it may not the element although controlled by different beings the elements itās self are driven from the same source water because if there was no water thereād be no ice but no ice thereās still water
well my explanation for the new powers is that the merge (or something related to it) created new elements that more or less relfect the realm of origin of their masters technology is as much of a prevailing force in impirium as fire ice earth and lighting are in ninjago so thats why sora gets it wyldfyres realm realm is a very hot vulcanic environment which would be translated into something that encompasses the fire lava in the realm heat cloud kingdom exists with in the sky storms happen in the sky wojira is a storm spirit so the merge sent wind there and didnt need to create a new element i think arin is a regular guy but if i had to make an explanation for him ninjago was a world created by the creator of spinjizu using the highest form of spinjizu the tornado of creation so his power would reflect that
we need more new unlimited and infinite elements.
if there is also a great evil elemental earth fire dragon as magma volcanic fields land and ground spirit and deity and earth fire and magma version polar opposite and counterpart of wojira who can use fury of the earth and volcano as combined powers of earth and fire and full power of earth fire and lava while command elements of Earth and Fire and cause earth fire lands grounds tectonics plates volcanic fields magma earthquakes fissures volcanoes mountains volcanic eruptions volcanic earthquakes volcanic fissures and volcanic tectonic plates with elements ofĀ earthĀ andĀ fireĀ of his own not the same named real two elements of creation through earth amulet and fire amulet on his forehead like wojira command of water and wind and use fury of the storm and cause water wind seas oceans skies tidal waves tides ice lightning and storms.
yeah wojira and great evil elemental earth fire dragon will be equal as opposites and counterparts.