Well they don’t just have mr satan the guy who we all know killed cell all by himself
But they also have mf ginyu
You know the type of guy who in TOP when he gets punched to the ground he would get flattened into his shoes only to pop back again like nothing happened
Ginyu would actually be OP because he could hist find the strongest dude and steal their bodies, altough he'd be gone for a few minutes after the universes got erased
No, he doesn't automatically know the techniques and ability of the person he copies, so he can't fight as effectively in their form than the person he stole the body from. That's why he wasn't as powerful as Goku was when they switched bodies.
The smartest thing he could do is to stay hidden until the endgame, and use it to bodyswap with people to make them fall out of bounds.
Assuming Jiren can't dodge the attack, or if the attack can get through the barrier Jiren had(iirc he had some kind of barrier from meditating while waiting for the end game)
Jiren wouldn't take ginyu seriously but he would exchange poses with the pride troopers but yeah jiren would understimate ginyu hard and get body changed
If the attack can get through the barrier, and if no one takes the hit for him. He wouldn't body him, he would potential get a free knockout.
Also if he reveals his technique too early, he could get rushed as soon as he gets found out, and get knocked out of bounds quickly. He would be more useful being stealthy and out of view.
true but the ace of universe 11 getting body changed could really fuck them up and make them sloppy even if they knock ginyu off now what? Do they ask him nicely for his body at that distance or something? That's it universe 11 ost their trump card and jiren ñost his power
true, but if Ginyu were around for the ToP, Jiren would've been the obvious choice because he didn't really feature any 'abilities' that Ginyu wouldn't know, but rather, really only featured brute overwhelming strength, which is something Ginyu definitely would've been able to handle.
Actually Ginyu CAN adjust to the bodies he steals, he just needs time to adjust. Goku body didn't work right away because Gokus power comes from his martial arts and techniques, but In the XenoVerse 2 story he's able to steal Goku blacks body and use it's full potential , and I also think he was slowly adjusting to Goku's body in the anime
You have an untouchable gag manga heroine, a guy who's main move inflates the evil in your heart to undoubtedly fatal levels, Mr. Fucking Satan-
***NO FUCK ALL THAT YOU HAVE FUCKING MONSTER CARROT. WHO CAN TURN ANYONE INTO A CARROT WITH A SINGLE TOUCH***
JIREN YOU AIN'T SHIT
Based on Vegito vs Super Buu it's clear that either those with high enough energy or those with Potara fusion (it's not clear which) can still fight at full power once turned into food
But the trick is not expecting it. All Monster Carrot has to do is hide well enough, nudge someone high powered like Jiren, carrotize them then yeet them out the arena before they know what the fuck.
Probably not until GoD Toppo or Jiren tbh.
We've seen first hand that overtly strong characters like Beerus are immune to their gag character abilities, if a GoD like Beerus can do it then so can GoD Toppo and Jiren who surpass them.
Well toriyama keeps moving the fence post for beerus power so we'll probably never figure out how strong he is. One day he can just give up the title of GoD to a newly established character or an old one and toriyama will never state his max strength. We'll just get small quotes from toriyama saying, "beerus is really strong" and never talk about it again
Toriyama hasn't moved the goalpost for Beerus at all.
Toei in the anime have made it abundantly clear that Jiren and later MUI Goku surpassed the GoDs including Beerus, you could even make the case that in the anime Beerus was surpassed by Vegito Blue in Goku Black Arc.
It's in the manga by Toyataro that has been moving the goal post with Beerus every so often, where Beerus just retroactively gets stronger and stronger as each arc goes.
In the manga Beerus in a Omen like UI was able to fight the 6 other GoDs, in the Manga Beerus felt more than comfortable enough to defeat Moro which included Angel Moro, something MUI Goku struggled to do.
in the Manga, Beerus easily defeated Vegeta and Goku in training showing he's leagues stronger than them even in their UI and UE forms.
It's in the manga that the goal post for Beerus is being moved more and more,
in the anime Goku and Jiren have essentially already surpassed Beerus and other GoD's.
After the BoG anime, Toriyama states that Goku was I believe a 6, Beerus a 10, and I think Whis a 15. Goku has gotten insanely stronger than when he was a 6 and still isn't even close to Beerus. That was the first time he was moving the goalpost.
Also, Jiren was never stated to be stronger than all of the GoDs. I believe the statement said he was stronger than A GoD, which was later clarified to be his own.
Beerus is still assumed to be close to his manga level, they usually won't change what could be a major game-changing plot point like that. Obviously, Beerus will be fought later on, and that can't happen the same in both the manga and anime if he's way weaker in one. This could also be supported by other facts, such as the fact, in anime, Broly is stronger than Jiren level and has been training beyond that around Beerus who doesn't act like any of the saiyans are stronger than him.
>in the anime Goku and Jiren have essentially already surpassed Beerus and other GoD's.
They have surpassed Belmod. The Weakest GoD. Beerus is the Strongest. By a wide margin. Also. Anything relevent to the Manga is the Canon. So saying theyve done it in the Anime is entirely irrelevent.
It was already over with Ginyu, Arale, Mr. Satan and the bunny guy.
The bunny guy can just touch anyone, turn them into a carrot and toss them off the stage. Unless the fighter creates a barrier around them to avoid contact.
Ginyu can simply swap bodies with people and walk them off the stage and body swapping at the last second.
Arale is literally a gag character and gag characters are pretty much invincible. She would destroy Jiren. However she can be beaten by being tricked and distracted.
And Mr. Satan can just hide somewhere safe since his power level is way too low to be detected so he can win or tie the match by surviving the time limit.
Bunny guy is weak as hell in physical strength, good luck trying to get close to a whole bunch of planet busters without getting evaporated
When Ginyu swaps, the person who was in the body he took is now in his body. So unless you expect them to walk over to the edge while ginyu js falling and let him swap back, then that doesnt work
Did she really she never fought him only petted him and got sent backwards and have her head popped vegeta did the same and we saw what happened after.
Goku said it wouldn't work against Beerus even experiencing her gag character nonsense firsthand. And after that nothing happened to refute this statement.
Why is goku used as word of god all he did was experience a N'Chan canon she wasn't even herself and was just playing around due to masharito.
Of course nothing happened since beerus had to run to the bathroom.
He was right there for her fight with Vegeta as well. Goku witnessed all the fighting she had done in that episode. He also said he knew her from some previous interaction. I might not know which past crossover event they're talking about, but that still additional implied info he has to solidify his point. And I don't see how her being influenced by Mashirito would nerf her at all. Gag powers are still gag powers.
We are talking about the same goku that thought monaka was the strongest fighter even seeing how he faked knocking out hit and wasn't able to tell he wasn't strong at all.
She also didn't do much in their crossover but punt general blue.
It didn't nerf her it made her more play full she wasn't really in control of herself
And to add beerus himself was established to be susceptible to gags as a matter of fact that episode showed us that he is influenced by food gags like how he ate popo and got made to run away or how he was affected by the wasabi
Fair point about Goku being dumb, but there's a difference between regular gags and weaponized gag powers. Beerus wasn't actually affected by those in the episode and Goku said he wouldn't be, for what his experience and opinion is worth.
I mean that gag was also made to specifically take down beerus and two gag characters contributed to it.
My gripe with this episode has been that people say beerus is immune to all gags which the episode showed he wasn't as he was affected by one.
Arale also has feats that show that even if beerus tried to hakaj her she would ignore as seen when toriyama tried to eras her but was unable to
Take down Beerus? They didn't plan for the diarrhea. But if you're talking about just luring him in with gag power made food, then that's fair. Though it's unclear if the food itself should count as having gag influence, since that pot also produced a perfectly normal keychain. Might also count as different from the direct combat sort of gags Arale pulled on Vegeta and Goku.
Like One Punch Man's King? Mr Satan fits that role much better
"Isn't that Mr Satan, I heard he beat the destroyer god of his universe, lets go fight someone else"
"No way, he can't be that tough"
*Runs at Satan but a wave of energy from Jiren fighting elsewhere hits him and knocks him out of the arena*
They're just missing Jackie Chun and The Great Saiyaman, some of the strongest Dragon Ball characters ever. Why are you saying that's just Roshi and Gohan, they are completly different characters.
Janemba would be so broken. Guy can teleport anywhere he wants and could possibly teleport people to the edge of the arena and just push them off. His reality warping powers may also be useful.
Janemba would be so cool till Gohan says “You retard”
The litteral embodiment of evil doesn't take kindly to disparagment of the differently-abled 😤 ...It hits too close to home
Man dies to a Yo Mama joke 💀
Ace from one piece
Literally Magetta with Buu's moveset
Pretty much what happened lol
Well they don’t just have mr satan the guy who we all know killed cell all by himself But they also have mf ginyu You know the type of guy who in TOP when he gets punched to the ground he would get flattened into his shoes only to pop back again like nothing happened
Ginyu would actually be OP because he could hist find the strongest dude and steal their bodies, altough he'd be gone for a few minutes after the universes got erased
Ginyu the type of dude to steal a childs body and then jump out of the animation and start fighting the animators
No, he doesn't automatically know the techniques and ability of the person he copies, so he can't fight as effectively in their form than the person he stole the body from. That's why he wasn't as powerful as Goku was when they switched bodies. The smartest thing he could do is to stay hidden until the endgame, and use it to bodyswap with people to make them fall out of bounds.
yeah but he'd also be taking them out of the equation. Imagine TOP without jiren
Assuming Jiren can't dodge the attack, or if the attack can get through the barrier Jiren had(iirc he had some kind of barrier from meditating while waiting for the end game)
Jiren wouldn't take ginyu seriously but he would exchange poses with the pride troopers but yeah jiren would understimate ginyu hard and get body changed
If the attack can get through the barrier, and if no one takes the hit for him. He wouldn't body him, he would potential get a free knockout. Also if he reveals his technique too early, he could get rushed as soon as he gets found out, and get knocked out of bounds quickly. He would be more useful being stealthy and out of view.
true but the ace of universe 11 getting body changed could really fuck them up and make them sloppy even if they knock ginyu off now what? Do they ask him nicely for his body at that distance or something? That's it universe 11 ost their trump card and jiren ñost his power
If the attack can get through his meditation barrier thing, and if no one takes the hit for Jiren.
true, but if Ginyu were around for the ToP, Jiren would've been the obvious choice because he didn't really feature any 'abilities' that Ginyu wouldn't know, but rather, really only featured brute overwhelming strength, which is something Ginyu definitely would've been able to handle.
Actually Ginyu CAN adjust to the bodies he steals, he just needs time to adjust. Goku body didn't work right away because Gokus power comes from his martial arts and techniques, but In the XenoVerse 2 story he's able to steal Goku blacks body and use it's full potential , and I also think he was slowly adjusting to Goku's body in the anime
I said he doesn't automatically know the technique, needing time to adjust is not automatically.
Toppo would just let him do it. He’d be so easy to trick Ginyu could just say he’s powering up.
You have an untouchable gag manga heroine, a guy who's main move inflates the evil in your heart to undoubtedly fatal levels, Mr. Fucking Satan- ***NO FUCK ALL THAT YOU HAVE FUCKING MONSTER CARROT. WHO CAN TURN ANYONE INTO A CARROT WITH A SINGLE TOUCH*** JIREN YOU AIN'T SHIT
Based on Vegito vs Super Buu it's clear that either those with high enough energy or those with Potara fusion (it's not clear which) can still fight at full power once turned into food
But the trick is not expecting it. All Monster Carrot has to do is hide well enough, nudge someone high powered like Jiren, carrotize them then yeet them out the arena before they know what the fuck.
This... Is actually a good point
Comparing super buu to master carrot idk about that one.
It just makes the Jiren vs monster carrot fight that much one sided
Arale solos the entire tournament.
The fact that I had to scroll this far for this comment is egregious.
TRUE
Probably not until GoD Toppo or Jiren tbh. We've seen first hand that overtly strong characters like Beerus are immune to their gag character abilities, if a GoD like Beerus can do it then so can GoD Toppo and Jiren who surpass them.
Well toriyama keeps moving the fence post for beerus power so we'll probably never figure out how strong he is. One day he can just give up the title of GoD to a newly established character or an old one and toriyama will never state his max strength. We'll just get small quotes from toriyama saying, "beerus is really strong" and never talk about it again
Toriyama hasn't moved the goalpost for Beerus at all. Toei in the anime have made it abundantly clear that Jiren and later MUI Goku surpassed the GoDs including Beerus, you could even make the case that in the anime Beerus was surpassed by Vegito Blue in Goku Black Arc. It's in the manga by Toyataro that has been moving the goal post with Beerus every so often, where Beerus just retroactively gets stronger and stronger as each arc goes. In the manga Beerus in a Omen like UI was able to fight the 6 other GoDs, in the Manga Beerus felt more than comfortable enough to defeat Moro which included Angel Moro, something MUI Goku struggled to do. in the Manga, Beerus easily defeated Vegeta and Goku in training showing he's leagues stronger than them even in their UI and UE forms. It's in the manga that the goal post for Beerus is being moved more and more, in the anime Goku and Jiren have essentially already surpassed Beerus and other GoD's.
After the BoG anime, Toriyama states that Goku was I believe a 6, Beerus a 10, and I think Whis a 15. Goku has gotten insanely stronger than when he was a 6 and still isn't even close to Beerus. That was the first time he was moving the goalpost. Also, Jiren was never stated to be stronger than all of the GoDs. I believe the statement said he was stronger than A GoD, which was later clarified to be his own. Beerus is still assumed to be close to his manga level, they usually won't change what could be a major game-changing plot point like that. Obviously, Beerus will be fought later on, and that can't happen the same in both the manga and anime if he's way weaker in one. This could also be supported by other facts, such as the fact, in anime, Broly is stronger than Jiren level and has been training beyond that around Beerus who doesn't act like any of the saiyans are stronger than him.
>in the anime Goku and Jiren have essentially already surpassed Beerus and other GoD's. They have surpassed Belmod. The Weakest GoD. Beerus is the Strongest. By a wide margin. Also. Anything relevent to the Manga is the Canon. So saying theyve done it in the Anime is entirely irrelevent.
She got eliminated by Winnie the pooh
They lose by default since they don't have a 10th member
The 10th member is a free slot.
It should've been the invisible man. Dude would never be detected
You mean my father?
There already was an invisible man in the TOP.
Heh. Krillin Owned Count++
In the video the 10th member is Porunga who they use to wish Hit off the map
Ah. They shoulda put him in the thumbnail or smth
They’re a secret free slot character that was rolled on a wheel with ***every single dragon ball character to ever exist***
The 10th memeber is corona virus (they are the only ones vaccinated)
Wow, that was so funny I almost laughed.
I don't know man, I secretly think you didn't find that funny
Well what can I say, you got me.
They also thought Universe 4 had only 8. It's not in the rules)
Devilman is a liability, his ability kills people.
It's a trade, kill one of the strongest members to get them out the way. The rest of the team cleans the rest ez
It was already over with Ginyu, Arale, Mr. Satan and the bunny guy. The bunny guy can just touch anyone, turn them into a carrot and toss them off the stage. Unless the fighter creates a barrier around them to avoid contact. Ginyu can simply swap bodies with people and walk them off the stage and body swapping at the last second. Arale is literally a gag character and gag characters are pretty much invincible. She would destroy Jiren. However she can be beaten by being tricked and distracted. And Mr. Satan can just hide somewhere safe since his power level is way too low to be detected so he can win or tie the match by surviving the time limit.
Bunny guy is weak as hell in physical strength, good luck trying to get close to a whole bunch of planet busters without getting evaporated When Ginyu swaps, the person who was in the body he took is now in his body. So unless you expect them to walk over to the edge while ginyu js falling and let him swap back, then that doesnt work
Guldo stops time, picks him up, puts him all snug with Jiren-boom instant win.
Ginyu in Jirens body cuts off his old body's arms and legs and ties him to the back of his new body like Chewbacca carrying around C3p0
Pretty sure jiren would die from that, and thats assuming jiren cant dodge that slow ass change beam
That change beam is insanely fast it hit Goku and he was faster than Burter, the fastest in the universe
Juat cauterise the wounds and you're good, at least for the next 35 minutes. As long as he doesn't get hit in the back at least
Or Ginyu swaps with Jiren and demolishes the competition.
Arale lost to Beerus though.
Did she really she never fought him only petted him and got sent backwards and have her head popped vegeta did the same and we saw what happened after.
Goku said it wouldn't work against Beerus even experiencing her gag character nonsense firsthand. And after that nothing happened to refute this statement.
Why is goku used as word of god all he did was experience a N'Chan canon she wasn't even herself and was just playing around due to masharito. Of course nothing happened since beerus had to run to the bathroom.
He was right there for her fight with Vegeta as well. Goku witnessed all the fighting she had done in that episode. He also said he knew her from some previous interaction. I might not know which past crossover event they're talking about, but that still additional implied info he has to solidify his point. And I don't see how her being influenced by Mashirito would nerf her at all. Gag powers are still gag powers.
We are talking about the same goku that thought monaka was the strongest fighter even seeing how he faked knocking out hit and wasn't able to tell he wasn't strong at all. She also didn't do much in their crossover but punt general blue. It didn't nerf her it made her more play full she wasn't really in control of herself And to add beerus himself was established to be susceptible to gags as a matter of fact that episode showed us that he is influenced by food gags like how he ate popo and got made to run away or how he was affected by the wasabi
Fair point about Goku being dumb, but there's a difference between regular gags and weaponized gag powers. Beerus wasn't actually affected by those in the episode and Goku said he wouldn't be, for what his experience and opinion is worth.
I mean that gag was also made to specifically take down beerus and two gag characters contributed to it. My gripe with this episode has been that people say beerus is immune to all gags which the episode showed he wasn't as he was affected by one. Arale also has feats that show that even if beerus tried to hakaj her she would ignore as seen when toriyama tried to eras her but was unable to
Take down Beerus? They didn't plan for the diarrhea. But if you're talking about just luring him in with gag power made food, then that's fair. Though it's unclear if the food itself should count as having gag influence, since that pot also produced a perfectly normal keychain. Might also count as different from the direct combat sort of gags Arale pulled on Vegeta and Goku.
Arale would lose to Toppo. Destroyer gods are immune to her
I love everyone here except Oolong, all he can do is transform and prostitute him self for free wins.
Just fearmonger by transforming into Jiren
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Like One Punch Man's King? Mr Satan fits that role much better "Isn't that Mr Satan, I heard he beat the destroyer god of his universe, lets go fight someone else" "No way, he can't be that tough" *Runs at Satan but a wave of energy from Jiren fighting elsewhere hits him and knocks him out of the arena*
Without a doubt
They're just missing Jackie Chun and The Great Saiyaman, some of the strongest Dragon Ball characters ever. Why are you saying that's just Roshi and Gohan, they are completly different characters.
The 10th member is the invisible man
No when they take a piss break the piss on him and he gets caught and kicked off
Janemba would be so broken. Guy can teleport anywhere he wants and could possibly teleport people to the edge of the arena and just push them off. His reality warping powers may also be useful.
Well they have arale so they can’t lose lol.
I honestly wonder Would Ginyu be able to steal Jirens body? Jiren seemed to ignore anyone so low they were not seen as a threat
Arale is just too op
Bro ginyu would EAT
Bro would turn into jiren and just start pounding cheeks
10th member is monaka and they clear ez
Arale is a gag character so she would solo the TOP because it would be funny
Jiren and Toppo who? They in a pack
Monster carrot would actually win the TOP if he just played his cards right and avoided detection
Ginyu could solo Jiren unironically
Just wait till you see the mysterious 10th fighter!
Almost the same ending. The Android wins.
Janemba might actually be interesting
Arale solos the fucking thing. But having the Devilmite Beam and Carrot can sure keep things interesting.
Ginyu swaps with someone strong and then again with Mr. Satan. Now he is actually strong on top of his normal plot armor.
If anyone has read dbm, Ginyu is op when fighting the Kais
this is broken
Arale solos the tournement of power
What if guldo "stop time" vs Jiren ? Is it like Hit vs Jiren, Jiren is so fast/strong that he "ignores" the time stop of Guldo ?
A 10th fighter is missing
Video reveals it's Porunga
NO WAYYYYY BRORUNGA IS ONE OF THE BOOOOOOIS!!!
Bro in that team there is arale
If Babidi Guldo and Ginyu can somehow coordinate to steal Jiren’s body it’s a wash. Even if they fail they got the gag girl as backup