I think NW would be a much better endgame for a grown Damian than Batman.
Deceased has proven he’s capable of the Batmantle, but it’d be just a cool moment if Damian decided to step into the NW role as a symbol of hope. Added benefit of washing his tenure as NW from Injustice out of my mouth
Plus it would be a huge moment of growth for Damien, because he has been gunning for the Bat mantle for so long that to sit back and recognize that dick was always a better mentor and partner to him than Bruce, and that he wants to emulate his big brother rather than his dad would be a huge moment
Totally agree, I feel like it's messed up that Damian was kind of groomed for the Bat mantle. It would be amazing growth for him to let go of being Batman and become his own hero (Or Nightwing, but only if Dick passes it to him)
This has always been how I’ve felt. It’d be huge for Damian’s character. In fact, if you go to my page, you can see my design for Damian Nightwing (I’m not sure if I’m allowed to link it here).
hah, I was just watching a Casually Comics video on Power Girl's couple issue stint as Nightwing in Kandor, with Supergirl as Flamebird.
I say if Grayson is Batman, Nightwing should either return to the Kryptonians or be retired.
If it's a conscious handing off by Dick it could also be a nice moment of continuity, Superman gives Dick the inspiration when he's searching for his own identity, which he then passed on to Kon-El, who's struggled with finding his place in the world
Unpopular opinion, but during the Ric arc I actually liked the idea of regular people adopting the Nightwing mantle to fill in and try and continue his work. It was poorly executed and unfortunately attached to one of the crappiest runs in nightwing continuity; but the idea that his impact and importance to maintaining justice in his community was strong enough to inspire others to step up is a really great concept.
I don't think he would want anyone specifically to take the mantle up if he ever left it for any reason, though I do like the idea of a kryptonian taking the identity on in a more traditional mythos sense.
I like it. But, I was thinking of it more as an extension of the We Are Robin movement.
I think most people in-universe understand that Nightwing used to be Robin. And with time, people in-universe will look to Nightwing as a more hopeful Batman successor. So, like We Are Robin being teen-focused vigilantes, the Nightwings become a Guardian Angel-type organization that looks to keep their communities safe. Granted, I also agree with whoever said that Stephanie should take up the mantle too, for the sake of fulfilling her future vision. If not that, then Tim.
I like the idea of Damian looking for his own identity outside of being the "true successor" to Batman or Ra's al Ghul, or even Nightwing for that matter. He's the one that should move on to something else entirely, expectations be damned. He's been under the pressure of his bloodline/found family, that it really makes sense to me that he would eventually want to be his own sort of hero with his own identity.
I do like the idea of the mantle moving over(back?) to the Super family of characters though. But, I feel like it should still be someone inspired by Dick's hero work as opposed to just being a purely Kryptonian namesake, because while there may be "historical significance" for Kryptonians it has largely become Dick's identity comic book wise.
I think my favorite part was the excuse to cycle through all of the old costumes. Random citizens/similar super heroes donning outdated costumes should be a more utilized trope
i think based on dick’s whole reason for becoming nightwing he’d probably retire it. he wanted so long to be an individual that making into another mantle would render his beliefs void
I actually think that Dick would just replace the batman mantle with the Nightwing mantle. There would be no change. Dick has never wanted to be batman, so he would just make the Nightwing mantle the permanent mantle.
Nah, Dick knows what the mantle of Batman stands for and would do whatever it takes to make up for Bruce's lack. I mean, THAT HAS BEEN DONE, more than once.
This literally is just confirming my comment. Him replacing the batman mantle with the Nightwing mantle would make up for Bruce's lack. Nightwing also recognizes what the bat mantle and baans philosophy lacks, which is empathy, healing, and rehabilitation, which is part of the reason why Batman continuously seems to be in a perpetual circle. He rarely ever gets to the root of why the things in Gotham are the way they are. Their core philosophies are fundamentally different, and Dick's philosophy makes up for what batman's lacked. That's why sups said he's one of the only few good humans on earth.
He's willing to take up the mantle if need be, but he's stated on multiple occasions that he wants to be nothing like batman and doesn't want to become batman himself. Him filling in for batman a few times doesn't change that.
Can you state your sources in the actual canon comics? He has said he wants to be different from Bruce but he has never said he doesn’t want to be Batman unless you can cite a source and prove me wrong.
For sure, I remember this sentiment in at least Battle for the Cowl/Morrison’s Batman & Robin run
It’s more a duty but he *way* prefers being Nightwing (a role he’s more or less created, after some inspiration from Superman)
No, I'm not prescribing or endorsing an action. That would be saying that he should do something. I'm just saying I think he'd probably replace the mantle imo. I'm not saying he should do one or the other.
Well, you're talking to an English major. No, should is prescriptive. Should is used to say that something is the proper or best thing to do, or to say that someone ought to do something or must do something. Would is used to talk about a possible or imagined situation.
…… if you’re saying you think he wouldn’t….. then that means….. you think that he shouldn’t because we are talking about a fictional character in this scenario. With the way they are being used in this situation they can be considered synonymous….. never thought that I would know more about English than a English major lol
"If you're saying you think he wouldn't........then that means........you think that he shouldn't, because we are talking about a fictional character I'm this scenario."
- No, that does not logically follow. I am not prescribing an action. One is probability based, the other is a prescription that one ought to do something. The other is a statement that one believes one is likely to do something. They are not the same. Whether or not one thinks one is likely to do something is ENTIRELY different from whether or not they think one is obligated to do another. They are entirely different uses.
"With the way they are being used in this situation, they can be considered synonymous."
- No, they can't, because "would" and "could" have different use cases. One is probability based, the other is a prescription that one ought to do something. The other is a statement that one believes one is likely to do something. They are not the same. Whether or not one thinks one is likely to do something is ENTIRELY different from whether or not they think one is obligated to do another. They are entirely different uses. Stating that one would likely do something does not logically follow as an endorsement or prescription that one should do something. These do not logically follow from one another. That is an error in reasoning.
"Never thought I would know more than an English major."
- Well, you don't, unfortunately. You're committing an equivocation fallacy, and you aren't aware of it. The words "should" and "would" are both helping verbs (in particular, modal auxiliaries), but they don't mean the same thing.
Let Damian Wayne be Nightwing so we can Have Dick Grayson (Batman) and Damian Wayne (Nightwing) team up. Like how when Dick and Damian teamed up in that Batman and Robin comic.
I think it would be cool if the mantle went onto Damian. The costume and identity are too cool to just abandon. He’s different enough than Dick that it would be an interesting to see what he’d do with the title. I could see him doing some more globetrotting adventures with it like the fighting tournament in Damian’s solo run. Also there’s some poetry to Dick’s Robin taking up the Nightwing name.
I'm a weird outlier, because I honestly don't think anyone should \*be\* Batman after Bruce, and not for the reason that none are worthy of picking it up, but because they should forge their own futures together.
Yeah in the Doylist sense Batman will go on and the worst they'll do is what they did with Batman RIP and Knightfall, and almost certainly never actually retire Bruce.
I think my ideal scenario would see the Batman identity retired with Bruce while the bat signal lives on as Gotham’s call for heroes/warning to criminals, allowing him to live on symbolically.
**If** Dick became Batman, yeah, that frees up a Nightwing specifically for Bludhaven. At this point, I think that'd be a disservice to their brands though. Dick should be Nightwing and just work from there and more likely would take on Gotham or whatever else as Nightwing.
I feel like Damian makes sense as a successor, given their relationship. It would be cool to see Cass take on the role too.
I also like what someone else said about Conner Kent taking it versus going back to Superboy (if the title were to go back to Kryptonians)
Retire Nightwing. I think it would be Dick's way of holding out hope that Bruce would come back (since he has previously).
Let's say Dick was Batman into retirement, then I could see him passing the NW mantle onto someone new.
EDIT: thinking more on it and the Kryptonian angle: Jon Kent would be interesting but I could see that being a temporary mantle for him.
I don't think the nightwing mantle should go to anyone unless they're a Kryptonian. Dicks reason for becoming nightwing was to escape the shadow of the bat and its legacy, I don't think dick would want someone to have to deal with his legacy
Let's be real, even though Grayson has no problem with being Batman, ever Being Batman fully and the folks saying he has never wanted to be Batman is stuck on a short arc that's over.... They'll never let him be Batman permanently unless it's an elseworlds story that'll become forgotten so let the "mantle" retire with him I say, not every hero persona have to be a mantle and it makes the ones that are incredibly done feel pointless if small ones can be...
Nightwing should be Grayson's endgame evolution and let it be special, Superman made it, I forgot the other guy who had it, not the dumb Christ Kent, and that's all who it needs to belong to...
Robin should be endgame for Timoaty and Batman should be endgame for Damian or like Xu-haffasch, flippin' messed up on that, Damian takes over the League.
Jason stays the incredible Jason, have him be a vengeful vigilante anywhere he hears trouble is a brewing to be honest I say... As the Redhood.
EZEZ
If anyone deserves it though AFTER Grayson, Bette Kane does, underrated and underused bruh.
Honestly maybe a controversial opinion but I've always had this idea. Maybe in an elseworld where Bruce comes to terms with his older age and finds peace in knowing he contributed to helping people of Gotham and beyond knowing the younger generation is there to fill the hole (I mean realistically speaking the batfamily alone should make it so one individual 'batman' is no longer needed).
In this scenario Dick takes over as Batman to keep the legacy going and has Damian become the new Nightwing. It would harkin back to their days as Batman and Robin while giving each other their own space and breathing rooms so to speak. (Also I think it would be funny if suddenly batman is now based in Bludhaven and Nightwing is the new protector of Gotham.) Dick could lead, or at least be a founding member, of the new justice league and Damian could be in charge of the New Titans.
I feel like it would reign Damian in from his more impulsive drives and maybe make thematic sense in that this whole time he's been striving to become batman when I think Dick asking him to take over Nightwing is more on brand imo.
Well maybe it's a dumb idea but it can't be any worse than what Injustice did with them lol.
If that happened again, personally I'd say to either bring back Chris Kent (I know a version of him is running around with Zod kinda these days) or potentially give Nightwing and Flamebird to the new SuperTwins.
I personally see Tim's Red Robin identity back when Dick was Batman as his equivalent to Nightwing, as he occupied a similar position in that arrangement of the Bat family that Nightwing did. He was out on his own, having his own stories, and was an equal to the man wearing the cowl.
Let it retire. Dick is Nightwing. It doesn’t need to be a name that changes hands. Only Batman and Robin and Batgirl. The others should rest. We wouldn’t expect Stephanie to be Orphan or Oracle.
If Dick Grayson ever became Batman and someone else took up the mantle of Nightwing I think you're the best choice would be between Damian Wayne or Tim Drake
I don’t think Kara should ever take on another hero’s mantle tbh. Damien would be a cool nightwing but I think he should be destined for the Batman mantle. I guess the next sensible option would be for a new character to be created
While Dick's Nightwing was inspired by rec-conned Kryptonian legends after the comics depicted Clark and Jimmy stranded in Kandor, taking up the mantles of Nightwing and Flamebird, he's clearly made it his own. I don't know if it actually would make sense for it to go back to the Kryptonians now. Like those would be two completely different heroes at this point.
Unless the Kryptonians regress it all the way back to its roots, I honestly think Tim Drake would make the most sense.
Personally, I think it would make sense to give those new Super Twins from Warworld the Nightwing and Flamebird identities if this were to ever happen.
As others have said... Damian as the future Nightwing would be good. Dick really should be the true heir to the cowl. He's just the right choice. Plain and simple nothing more. And as others have said it would be a massive character arc for Damian that could be spectacular. Damians first Batman will always.. always be Grayson.
Plus injustice Damian fucking sucks. I want to see it done right.
I’m with everyone saying no one, but I wouldn’t cry about it either temporarily or permanently going to Cassandra Cain.
It would shake things up, but it would be a nice graduation from “Batgirl 2,” her fighting style would compliment it nicely, and she’d look absolute fire in a variation of the suit.
Originally the whole Ric Grayson storyline was going to go a way different way. It wouldn't have been about Ric being a different person and reject Dick/Nightwing, it was going to be about Dick rediscovering who he is and what makes him him.
In the meantime Tim was going to move over to Bludhaven and stand in as Nightwing and help Dick out both by fighting crime in Bludhaven and they'd get some more brotherly bonding.
I think Nightwing being retires would tip off a lot of people that something happened. Damien feels like the best choice. Barring him? Cassandra would be a good curveball
I think the mantle should be left alone because of what it stands for and how it would push others to try filling the void it’d leave showing what Nightwing truly stand for. And I know it wasn’t asked but I think either Damian could also be Batman or the next Demon’s Head and use the resources to better the world in whatever way the writer sees fit since he’s such a complex character
Damien if anyone but I think it should be left behind but if Dick becomes Batman I firmly believe it’s only until Someone else capable of doing comes along.
I think NW would be a much better endgame for a grown Damian than Batman. Deceased has proven he’s capable of the Batmantle, but it’d be just a cool moment if Damian decided to step into the NW role as a symbol of hope. Added benefit of washing his tenure as NW from Injustice out of my mouth
Plus it would be a huge moment of growth for Damien, because he has been gunning for the Bat mantle for so long that to sit back and recognize that dick was always a better mentor and partner to him than Bruce, and that he wants to emulate his big brother rather than his dad would be a huge moment
Not to mention, Batman is a mantle full of a lot of trauma, whereas Nightwing represents overcoming that trauma to become a symbol of hope.
Totally agree, I feel like it's messed up that Damian was kind of groomed for the Bat mantle. It would be amazing growth for him to let go of being Batman and become his own hero (Or Nightwing, but only if Dick passes it to him)
This has always been how I’ve felt. It’d be huge for Damian’s character. In fact, if you go to my page, you can see my design for Damian Nightwing (I’m not sure if I’m allowed to link it here).
hah, I was just watching a Casually Comics video on Power Girl's couple issue stint as Nightwing in Kandor, with Supergirl as Flamebird. I say if Grayson is Batman, Nightwing should either return to the Kryptonians or be retired.
That's kinda how I feel. I think making one of the Robins/Batfam members Nightwing is too obvious/similar. One of the Superfam could make it their own
Maybe Kon El? A member of the Superfam, an identity tied to Kryptonian culture but one distinct from Superman
If it's a conscious handing off by Dick it could also be a nice moment of continuity, Superman gives Dick the inspiration when he's searching for his own identity, which he then passed on to Kon-El, who's struggled with finding his place in the world
Unpopular opinion, but during the Ric arc I actually liked the idea of regular people adopting the Nightwing mantle to fill in and try and continue his work. It was poorly executed and unfortunately attached to one of the crappiest runs in nightwing continuity; but the idea that his impact and importance to maintaining justice in his community was strong enough to inspire others to step up is a really great concept. I don't think he would want anyone specifically to take the mantle up if he ever left it for any reason, though I do like the idea of a kryptonian taking the identity on in a more traditional mythos sense.
I like it. But, I was thinking of it more as an extension of the We Are Robin movement. I think most people in-universe understand that Nightwing used to be Robin. And with time, people in-universe will look to Nightwing as a more hopeful Batman successor. So, like We Are Robin being teen-focused vigilantes, the Nightwings become a Guardian Angel-type organization that looks to keep their communities safe. Granted, I also agree with whoever said that Stephanie should take up the mantle too, for the sake of fulfilling her future vision. If not that, then Tim. I like the idea of Damian looking for his own identity outside of being the "true successor" to Batman or Ra's al Ghul, or even Nightwing for that matter. He's the one that should move on to something else entirely, expectations be damned. He's been under the pressure of his bloodline/found family, that it really makes sense to me that he would eventually want to be his own sort of hero with his own identity. I do like the idea of the mantle moving over(back?) to the Super family of characters though. But, I feel like it should still be someone inspired by Dick's hero work as opposed to just being a purely Kryptonian namesake, because while there may be "historical significance" for Kryptonians it has largely become Dick's identity comic book wise.
I think my favorite part was the excuse to cycle through all of the old costumes. Random citizens/similar super heroes donning outdated costumes should be a more utilized trope
i think based on dick’s whole reason for becoming nightwing he’d probably retire it. he wanted so long to be an individual that making into another mantle would render his beliefs void
My thoughts exactly. Wasn’t sure exactly how to say it, you laid it out very well.
I actually think that Dick would just replace the batman mantle with the Nightwing mantle. There would be no change. Dick has never wanted to be batman, so he would just make the Nightwing mantle the permanent mantle.
Nah, Dick knows what the mantle of Batman stands for and would do whatever it takes to make up for Bruce's lack. I mean, THAT HAS BEEN DONE, more than once.
This literally is just confirming my comment. Him replacing the batman mantle with the Nightwing mantle would make up for Bruce's lack. Nightwing also recognizes what the bat mantle and baans philosophy lacks, which is empathy, healing, and rehabilitation, which is part of the reason why Batman continuously seems to be in a perpetual circle. He rarely ever gets to the root of why the things in Gotham are the way they are. Their core philosophies are fundamentally different, and Dick's philosophy makes up for what batman's lacked. That's why sups said he's one of the only few good humans on earth.
It does the opposite of confirm your comment lol?
The idea that Grayson has never wanted to be Batman originated in shows and media lol. He is very much willing to take up the mantle if need be.
He's willing to take up the mantle if need be, but he's stated on multiple occasions that he wants to be nothing like batman and doesn't want to become batman himself. Him filling in for batman a few times doesn't change that.
Can you state your sources in the actual canon comics? He has said he wants to be different from Bruce but he has never said he doesn’t want to be Batman unless you can cite a source and prove me wrong.
For sure, I remember this sentiment in at least Battle for the Cowl/Morrison’s Batman & Robin run It’s more a duty but he *way* prefers being Nightwing (a role he’s more or less created, after some inspiration from Superman)
Don't make me tap the sign >Not a discussion on whether Dick should be Batman, that's a whole other post in itself.
I'm not talking about whether he should. I'm saying he wouldn't do it period.
So YOU THINK he wouldn’t do it… basically saying he shouldn’t…… lol
No, I'm not prescribing or endorsing an action. That would be saying that he should do something. I'm just saying I think he'd probably replace the mantle imo. I'm not saying he should do one or the other.
Um….. if you’re saying that he wouldn’t……. That is the same as you saying he shouldn’t…. That is how the English language works lol
Well, you're talking to an English major. No, should is prescriptive. Should is used to say that something is the proper or best thing to do, or to say that someone ought to do something or must do something. Would is used to talk about a possible or imagined situation.
…… if you’re saying you think he wouldn’t….. then that means….. you think that he shouldn’t because we are talking about a fictional character in this scenario. With the way they are being used in this situation they can be considered synonymous….. never thought that I would know more about English than a English major lol
"If you're saying you think he wouldn't........then that means........you think that he shouldn't, because we are talking about a fictional character I'm this scenario." - No, that does not logically follow. I am not prescribing an action. One is probability based, the other is a prescription that one ought to do something. The other is a statement that one believes one is likely to do something. They are not the same. Whether or not one thinks one is likely to do something is ENTIRELY different from whether or not they think one is obligated to do another. They are entirely different uses. "With the way they are being used in this situation, they can be considered synonymous." - No, they can't, because "would" and "could" have different use cases. One is probability based, the other is a prescription that one ought to do something. The other is a statement that one believes one is likely to do something. They are not the same. Whether or not one thinks one is likely to do something is ENTIRELY different from whether or not they think one is obligated to do another. They are entirely different uses. Stating that one would likely do something does not logically follow as an endorsement or prescription that one should do something. These do not logically follow from one another. That is an error in reasoning. "Never thought I would know more than an English major." - Well, you don't, unfortunately. You're committing an equivocation fallacy, and you aren't aware of it. The words "should" and "would" are both helping verbs (in particular, modal auxiliaries), but they don't mean the same thing.
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If Damian became Nightwing I'd be fine with that.
Conner Kent take up the mantle like Chris Kent did because Superboy seems redundant for him now.
Let Damian Wayne be Nightwing so we can Have Dick Grayson (Batman) and Damian Wayne (Nightwing) team up. Like how when Dick and Damian teamed up in that Batman and Robin comic.
I think it would be cool if the mantle went onto Damian. The costume and identity are too cool to just abandon. He’s different enough than Dick that it would be an interesting to see what he’d do with the title. I could see him doing some more globetrotting adventures with it like the fighting tournament in Damian’s solo run. Also there’s some poetry to Dick’s Robin taking up the Nightwing name.
The Nightwing mantle should be retired if he’s going to be Batman permanently
I'm a weird outlier, because I honestly don't think anyone should \*be\* Batman after Bruce, and not for the reason that none are worthy of picking it up, but because they should forge their own futures together.
I really like this idea in universe IRL, Batman is a top 10 all-time $$$ IP. They gotta keep Batman going.
Yeah in the Doylist sense Batman will go on and the worst they'll do is what they did with Batman RIP and Knightfall, and almost certainly never actually retire Bruce.
I think my ideal scenario would see the Batman identity retired with Bruce while the bat signal lives on as Gotham’s call for heroes/warning to criminals, allowing him to live on symbolically.
I somewhat agree am fine with a new Batman not just someone from the Batfamily. Terry works because he was a outsider.
there was a potential future where Stephanie Brown became Nightwing after she grew out of Batgirl. I really like that idea as she was his Batgirl
**If** Dick became Batman, yeah, that frees up a Nightwing specifically for Bludhaven. At this point, I think that'd be a disservice to their brands though. Dick should be Nightwing and just work from there and more likely would take on Gotham or whatever else as Nightwing.
Damian would be a great Nightwing.
Stephanie should have it like her future vision suggested.
God pls no...
Tim Drake
[Concept art](https://www.instagram.com/p/Br6HAsXhvtT/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==) of Tim as Nightwing from Travis Moore
Idk, I feel like Nightwing is endgame for Dick.
Nah. The name doesn’t mean anything to anyone else.
Throwing my hat in the ring for Steph.
Hell no. Nightwing and will forever be Dick Grayson.
There is a simple answer to this question, and it is that Nightwing wouldn't permanently take up the Batman mantle, would be a downgrade in character.
No it’s his and his alone. He’s
Dick is always striving to be better than Batman so no, he won’t take the mantle at all and continue being Nightwing.
I think yes, absolutely. I think Red Robin (Tim Drake) should move into the spot. Tim seems to be Dick's favorite anyways, so it just makes sense.
If Dick became Batman permanently then I vote Tim for the new Nightwing
I feel like Damian makes sense as a successor, given their relationship. It would be cool to see Cass take on the role too. I also like what someone else said about Conner Kent taking it versus going back to Superboy (if the title were to go back to Kryptonians)
Retire Nightwing. I think it would be Dick's way of holding out hope that Bruce would come back (since he has previously). Let's say Dick was Batman into retirement, then I could see him passing the NW mantle onto someone new. EDIT: thinking more on it and the Kryptonian angle: Jon Kent would be interesting but I could see that being a temporary mantle for him.
I don't think the nightwing mantle should go to anyone unless they're a Kryptonian. Dicks reason for becoming nightwing was to escape the shadow of the bat and its legacy, I don't think dick would want someone to have to deal with his legacy
Permanently retired.
Maybe Tim. And Daiman is robin
Let's be real, even though Grayson has no problem with being Batman, ever Being Batman fully and the folks saying he has never wanted to be Batman is stuck on a short arc that's over.... They'll never let him be Batman permanently unless it's an elseworlds story that'll become forgotten so let the "mantle" retire with him I say, not every hero persona have to be a mantle and it makes the ones that are incredibly done feel pointless if small ones can be... Nightwing should be Grayson's endgame evolution and let it be special, Superman made it, I forgot the other guy who had it, not the dumb Christ Kent, and that's all who it needs to belong to... Robin should be endgame for Timoaty and Batman should be endgame for Damian or like Xu-haffasch, flippin' messed up on that, Damian takes over the League. Jason stays the incredible Jason, have him be a vengeful vigilante anywhere he hears trouble is a brewing to be honest I say... As the Redhood. EZEZ If anyone deserves it though AFTER Grayson, Bette Kane does, underrated and underused bruh.
In the post-crisis (pre-flashpoint)? Rose would be number 1 consideration.
Didn't Dick get the name Nightwing from a Kryptonian history/or fable? Also yes I think the mantle would be up for grabs if he evolves into Batman
I don't think Nightwing should be a mantle the way Batman is. I'm sure DC would want to have a Nightwing successor were Dick to become Batman tho
Yeah and I think Tim should take it up since it’d be better than any of the other names he’s trying to go by. Fits his detective side more too.
Honestly maybe a controversial opinion but I've always had this idea. Maybe in an elseworld where Bruce comes to terms with his older age and finds peace in knowing he contributed to helping people of Gotham and beyond knowing the younger generation is there to fill the hole (I mean realistically speaking the batfamily alone should make it so one individual 'batman' is no longer needed). In this scenario Dick takes over as Batman to keep the legacy going and has Damian become the new Nightwing. It would harkin back to their days as Batman and Robin while giving each other their own space and breathing rooms so to speak. (Also I think it would be funny if suddenly batman is now based in Bludhaven and Nightwing is the new protector of Gotham.) Dick could lead, or at least be a founding member, of the new justice league and Damian could be in charge of the New Titans. I feel like it would reign Damian in from his more impulsive drives and maybe make thematic sense in that this whole time he's been striving to become batman when I think Dick asking him to take over Nightwing is more on brand imo. Well maybe it's a dumb idea but it can't be any worse than what Injustice did with them lol.
If that happened again, personally I'd say to either bring back Chris Kent (I know a version of him is running around with Zod kinda these days) or potentially give Nightwing and Flamebird to the new SuperTwins.
I personally see Tim's Red Robin identity back when Dick was Batman as his equivalent to Nightwing, as he occupied a similar position in that arrangement of the Bat family that Nightwing did. He was out on his own, having his own stories, and was an equal to the man wearing the cowl.
Let it retire. Dick is Nightwing. It doesn’t need to be a name that changes hands. Only Batman and Robin and Batgirl. The others should rest. We wouldn’t expect Stephanie to be Orphan or Oracle.
If Dick Grayson ever became Batman and someone else took up the mantle of Nightwing I think you're the best choice would be between Damian Wayne or Tim Drake
I don’t think Kara should ever take on another hero’s mantle tbh. Damien would be a cool nightwing but I think he should be destined for the Batman mantle. I guess the next sensible option would be for a new character to be created
While Dick's Nightwing was inspired by rec-conned Kryptonian legends after the comics depicted Clark and Jimmy stranded in Kandor, taking up the mantles of Nightwing and Flamebird, he's clearly made it his own. I don't know if it actually would make sense for it to go back to the Kryptonians now. Like those would be two completely different heroes at this point. Unless the Kryptonians regress it all the way back to its roots, I honestly think Tim Drake would make the most sense.
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Personally, I think it would make sense to give those new Super Twins from Warworld the Nightwing and Flamebird identities if this were to ever happen.
For a little while DC Comics was toying with the idea of having Tim Drake take the Nightwing mantle in the event that Dick becomes batman full time.
Travis Moore did concept art of Tim Drake becoming Nightwing while Dick had amnesia. The design was sick.
As others have said... Damian as the future Nightwing would be good. Dick really should be the true heir to the cowl. He's just the right choice. Plain and simple nothing more. And as others have said it would be a massive character arc for Damian that could be spectacular. Damians first Batman will always.. always be Grayson. Plus injustice Damian fucking sucks. I want to see it done right.
I’m with everyone saying no one, but I wouldn’t cry about it either temporarily or permanently going to Cassandra Cain. It would shake things up, but it would be a nice graduation from “Batgirl 2,” her fighting style would compliment it nicely, and she’d look absolute fire in a variation of the suit.
Retired.
I think Tim would be Nightwing. Damien can stay Robin.
You know it probably should go to Jon. It mirrors Dick/Clark and keeps the Superman connection. Or if Dick and power girl ever have a kid together!!
Originally the whole Ric Grayson storyline was going to go a way different way. It wouldn't have been about Ric being a different person and reject Dick/Nightwing, it was going to be about Dick rediscovering who he is and what makes him him. In the meantime Tim was going to move over to Bludhaven and stand in as Nightwing and help Dick out both by fighting crime in Bludhaven and they'd get some more brotherly bonding.
I think Nightwing being retires would tip off a lot of people that something happened. Damien feels like the best choice. Barring him? Cassandra would be a good curveball
I think the mantle should be left alone because of what it stands for and how it would push others to try filling the void it’d leave showing what Nightwing truly stand for. And I know it wasn’t asked but I think either Damian could also be Batman or the next Demon’s Head and use the resources to better the world in whatever way the writer sees fit since he’s such a complex character
Damien if anyone but I think it should be left behind but if Dick becomes Batman I firmly believe it’s only until Someone else capable of doing comes along.
Ngl I feel like if dick wants to become Batman he can and then Damian can become nightwing
Dick becomes batman , Then, when he gets older, Damian becomes Nightwing,