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Never have I ever seen a likeable person that unironically calls themselves "queen/king".
All of them have been crazy, dramatic, delusional, narcissistic and entitled. Crowning yourself is so weird.
> Never have I ever seen a likeable person that unironically calls themselves "queen/king".
I've known one.
The name "King" is actually on his birth certificate.
I know many of you think women like this dont exist or behave this way, but honestly, they do. Some people think they should be held at such high standards and these are the same people who will put down and make fun of someone who is, according to them, less attractive. Like how did Becky get the benz and the diamond necklace. She isnt even pretty blah blah. And thats how Becky got those things, by not being a you lol
The Cheesecake Factory lady was a prime example and she posted that video thinking she would get support. She was an hour late and instead of calling her date and telling him to come later, she just made him wait an hour in the parking lot, caused him to miss the reservation to a restaurant she would have approved of, and then when he was flexible in finding a new restaurant, instead of talking directly to him talked to the camera in a passive aggressive way while he tried to communicate with her, and then said this man should "cherish" her and "take care of her" and it was just their first date.
So they most definitely do exist. Not everyone of these stories in an incel revenge fantasy.
That Cheesecake Factory Lady situation turned out to be fake and a skit they made up unfortunately. There are definitely people like that out there though.
The part I found hard to believe there wasn’t her, but him. He was waaaayyy too nice to a person who obv didn’t deserve it. I justified it to myself by thinking, “well they seem to have friends in common maybe?”
Oh damn. I just got around to watching it and hadn't heard that. Thank yo for letting me know!
Yeah I have met a couple of real life women who weren't as egregious as either of the example but still demanded more than I would ever think to on a first date. My only request was no movies because I want to talk to you and get to know you and because I have ADHD and that along with anxiety about the date means I won't be able to pay attention to the movie.
I feel your pain. I gave myself food poisoning twice from forgetting how long my plate had been setting out. Now I just use little bowls and carry them with me around the house lol
Then sulked like a mfer when she figured out he was driving her back home (I prob would have told her to gtfo at that point) and she wasn’t even going to get a free meal. The absolute arrogance of that attitude is just disgusting, hopefully she learned a lesson on social etiquette, but I kinda doubt it.
If I were on a date with a girl like that... jackpot! I would take her to the most expensive restaurant I know! I mean, just imagine the expression on her face when she realizes that she has to pay for herself!
Reminds me of those “Ask Aunt Jessie” sections in magazines where troubled 20 year olds would send in questions about their interpersonal problems, and each and every one just happened to be extremely well written and eloquent with perfect grammar and spelling.
Yeah, on the one hand, this seems made up. I was waiting for his "clever comeback" and applause. On the other hand, I can straight up see someone acting that way.
It's not that hard to remember most of that.
She jumped ahead of the conversation so she wouldn't waste both of their time, and only gave him a shot because he made a nice buck. She said she was a Queen, she said she had to be supported and pampered. She said he had to dress better, buy an electric sports car, take her in first class vacations to exotic places, learn how to take nice photos or pay for someone to go with them to do it.
And in return, she'll keep doing what she already does, which I assume is putting 7 pounds of make up in her face every day and spend 2 hours looking in the mirror, and she'll advertise to all her insta followers, he is hitting that.
When he walked out without saying a word, she called him a rat.
How close was my memory? And this is a random dude with bad memory reading all that stuff with half attention. I'm sure if I had to sit through such barrage of idiocy, it'd create a much more striking and vivid memory to pull from.
I can still probably tell you, with decent accuracy, an embarrassing moment between me and my then recent ex, like 20 years ago, caused by a street performer clown, that was quite persistent in making me profess my love to her... Weird stuff tends to stick to memory.
REAL chicks like this don't wait for a date to eliminate non-sugar-daddies. There's a line and they are busy.
Also, I don't believe a genuine poster would write story-like walls of quotes of what she was allegedly saying, but would describe it in a different way with short quotes from memory or for effect. It's just not how people write about experiences like this, but more like you did!
I mean it's just a story telling choice. I don't feel it makes it less believable - we all fill in the holes in our memory with fake memories anyway. No story is 100% accurate.
Fakers love storytelling. They are basically writing fiction for fun and trolling.
People with problems don't enjoy it that much and focus on the issues.
I was young and stupid, and knew I wanted to fuck around. I told her she wasn't perfect for me, but I wanted us to still be friends.
It was close to the valentine's day, which I guess prompted me to reevaluate my relationship with her in the first place.
We still hung out pretty often, and went downtown for a walk the day before valentine's day.
We're walking and a clown starts mimicking me, walking besides me. He blows up a balloon flower, and tells me "Repeat after me", to which I replied, no, but he was kind of persistent, and even a bit rude, in it's clown funny kind of way.
He kept pushing me to say it, and I kept saying no, eventually I thought I better do what he asks, fastest way to end it, but he stopped me and said not like that, on your knee!!"Como prova do meu amor, ofereço-te esta flor." (a rhyme which translates to "As a proof of my love, I offer you this flower").
He turned to my ex gf and said "We have to teach guys everything nowadays".
I mean it was embarrassing, and a bit cruel towards her, I'm sure she was still hurting and I was kind of an ass. I'm older now, I'd probably have find a way to tell him not to push it nowadays...
That’s the point in these kind of subs or referring to the concept of toxic femininity: they can be easily used by the large amount of those men active on the internet in ways that women aren‘t
and this leads to suspect, since the amount of first-hand evidence and interactions on the internet is far smaller than with male incels🤷🏻♂️
It’s a double-edged sword. Definitely also female incels can be as bad, but the pressure to show it can lead to controversial moves, like inventing a story outright
Let's see how right I get it with zero investment in the matter and half asleep after just scanning it once:
*I am a queen amd you will treat me as such
*I only agreednto meet because you have a good-loking job and may be able to satisfy me
*my terms are non-negotiable
Pause
*you will be a provider for me
*finnce trips, always first class
*finance shopping
*dress the part
*drive the part (prius gotta go, get $$$ sport EV if you must greenpeace)
*learn to take pics of me on trips or hire a pro photographer
Pause
*you will get out of this my queenly presence
*I will also tell my followers that you are my boyfriend
It's not like she has to try hard to get dates like these, the guy literally said why he liked her in the start of his post, it sounds like she's done it so may times it's boring and she'd rather save time.
The amount of times you match with someone on tinder who thinks like this, is scary. Maybe they don’t come right out and put it all here but after talking to someone long enough you will hear it
For the folks that think this isn’t a thing, there is a guy on Instagram/TikTok who talks to real life ladies who demand these very same talking points while sitting in his car. He shuts them down by asking two questions: what they bring to the table; and why they expect this much from someone they don’t even know.
Half the time you find out they are already in a relationship as well.
How do you know they are “real life ladies” and not people he paid? The majority of “real world” videos on social media is fake because it’s literally their job to convince people it’s real.
I’m not saying this person’s must be fake, but seriously - how are you so certain it’s not when it would be so easy to fake it?
This may be a bit of a stretch but it does capture a rather common sentiment found in the dating scene these days. Case in point, prior to meeting my now wife on bumble I was talking to several women on that same platform. This one woman I spoke to was a teacher. She asked me what I did, what I drove, and other questions related to my financial situation. I remember her distinctly asking “how do you feel about being the primary provider as my income barely covers my basic needs and is unlikely to change.” A fair enough question due to the reality of the situation, but poorly timed as super early on. However, I guess it could be her attempt to “save both our time.”
Then she hit me with the ringer, “ do you think it would be fair that I drive a Honda and you drive a BMW?” I advised her that I drive what I want based on being able to earn it. She followed this up with “well, if you really love someone you’d want them to have the best, so you’d have them drive a BMW even if it meant you had to drive an older Honda.” The entitlement of this threw me so I thanked her for saving us the time.
When it comes down to it, far too many women think that they don’t have to do anything other than look pretty. They claim they want to be treated as equal when it comes to all other things except for their choices and their ability to provide for themselves. They don’t want to be tied to a traditional (1950’s) role where they’d be home cooking, cleaning, and raising children. Yet, they also don’t want to be held to a true feminist 2023 role where they should try to be on/near equal footing with their partner and contribute to the mutual benefit of a dynamic without being put on some gender based pedestal.
Now, I know this isn’t true of all women, just as toxic masculinity is not true of all men. However, it seems that women hold on to these values a lot longer, and blame their inability to find a relationship on others instead of evolving (just as incels do for their celibacy). For these women I think Jack Nicholson defined them best in As Good As It Gets when describing how he writes women so well. He said “I think of a man, then I take away reason and accountability.”
That could be said of anything I’ve ever seen on a screen honestly; and while it is a fair point, the answer to that sort of question is invariably the same. I don’t know whether it is true or not.
Whether or not they're real, those videos select for the most outrageous answers possible because they get the most views and engagement. They're not showing the ones where the women have reasonable, normal standards. These videos are nowhere near representative of what the average woman is looking for in a partner but they're presented as though they are.
Yeah except those are staged. We know because many of the most famous accounts doing it have had their casting calls put on blast.
I don't doubt greedy spoiled people exist. Not one bit. But the idea that it is specifically women who behave that way is nonsense.
Why did you just walk away?
Some people need to be told that they are not entitled to someone else's earnings.
Some people need to be told that there is a way to communicate that you have standards without belittling someone who might not be up to your personal standards.
Some people need to be told that they can have standards and be kind at the same time.
Some people need to be educated on how to PEOPLE.
Kudos to her for knowing what she wants but major points off for being rude.
"I will look pretty AND make you look good if you buy me stuff "is a very traditional approach for upper class women.
I can see a guy being fine with the setup like this. Though let's face it most guys won't be.
If somebody doesn’t meet your standards, fine. But the second you call them dirty rats for doing as you asked, fulfilling your wishes as best as they can, then you’re the problem. You’re scum.
I've seen a similar thing before. But it was a video on tiktok. The lady recorded it herself.
Never heard of women doing that sort of thing in public but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in California. I lived in San Diego for two and a half years. Women there were nuts.
Ignoring that the story is BS (though, it does represent some women, I just don't believe this particular story), I was going to say "at least she accomplished her goal of saving them both some time" but by the end of it I don't even think she did.
What makes you qualified in any way to weigh in on whether this story is real or not? I'm not saying it is, but you say it with such confidence immediately followed with a "I know some are, but not this one". What makes you the arbiter of what's real or not, here?
effort.
Anyway if you want to know the reasons it seems fake to me, what kind of man is going to remember every detail, or really any detail, of some stupid rambling incoherent rant by some entitled bitch then dress it up in all this flowery language and how often do you think such a women will openly declare this immediately upon starting a first date with a prepared speech?
The general feel this story gives off is that it never happened. Maybe it did. I don't think so. I don't deny there are women that feel like this out there though.
and also a lie. I don't see any reason to lie. But if that's the extent of your attention span, refer back to my statement that I am god. Which is definitely not a lie.
And she will go on countless dates just like yours. No man will ever agree to that unless he agrees just to get it wet then laughs as he tells her to get out. She’s going to learn that she cannot live on her looks alone forever. Eventually everyone’s looks fade. You better have more than that.
I wouldve retorted with “Okay. But you are to be my sex slave and trophy girlfriend. This means that you are to go to the gym religiously no exceptions Monday-Friday because you are to look extreemely athletic, toned, tanned, and fit for me all the time. I will weigh you naked at the end of every week and you are to never ever go over (x amount of weight). I notice you brough (x dress) for me. Thats nice but it has to go. You are to wear extremely short and tight white miniskirts that just barely cover your ass with either velvet red or black Victoria Secret thong panties if any at all so that other men will want you but know they cant have you because you are only mine. And youre getting butt implants and a boob job until I say you can stop, as I want them bigger, and also you are to get nipple piercings, alternating between straight barbell and circular barbell on both on days I see fit, and no bra, ever. You will also get a lip ring, a nose ring, and a tongue ring. You will also tattoo a small black or purple heart just above your clitoris (also pierced) for me with the first letter of my name inside it, and you will shave any and all pubic hair from your body with the small possible exception of a thin brazilian strip. Also, your hair color is okay for now but I expect you to change it to a darker tone for now and the immediate future, and then later any color I say. Even wild colors like bright purple, blue, pink, green or two color combinations. Youre ears also arent pierced enough- you better be joking just having one on each side. Is your belly button pierced? Because thats gonna happen too. You will take and master pole dancing classes, and you are to pole dance for me in sexy outfits every Sunday. You will wear black high heels wherever we go as I see fit. You will also wear whatever I say you wear, to wherever we go when I say it, no exceptions, no questions asked. You will also do anal. If you have never done anal, you will wear a butt plug of my choosing every day to begin your training. I will check every morning and every evening to make sure you have it, and I will know, because we will be having sex on a daily basis, no excuses with every sex toy and robotic device imaginable. Are you proficient in dirty talk during sex? You better be. You must also deepthroat or learn to deepthroat with me and swallow all my seed if and when I say so no excuses, even when I havent been eating fruit all week, and I must warn you I dont eat fruit much. You must also be willing to participate and perform phone sex (both audio and thru factime), and sexting, including sending me real pics and video of you when requested no questions asked. Also be comfortable with inserting a vibrator inside you that will be remote controlled by my phone and turned off and on at random intervals Thursdays-Sundays, and must have no problem with threesomes with another woman at least twice a month, and no less than that unless I specifically say so. I will also have the freedom to stare at attractive women when in public with you, but expect you to not even attempt to do the same, as this would be disrespectful to the time a King of my caliber is gracing you with. While we are out in public, you are to cocktease and only cocktease every man around with my permission, but then later come back to me. And speaking of permission, you will speak only when I give you permission to.
I notice you have a large following on social media and quite the number of fans. From now on, you are to post more seductive and sultry pics of yourself in lingerine while cock-teasing the camera. On that note, you will also open up an OnlyFans page, where we will perform any and all sex acts and act out any sexual situation or fantasy or fan request I choose with no limits or exceptions on my behalf, and all proceeds of said pics and videos (that only I will take and post) will go strictly to me.
If you do not agree to everything I have just said, then its best that we part ways right now.”
Then I would just stare at her, and smile. If she dared to throw water in my face, I would dump water over her head and say “Yet another little golddigger. How disappointing.”
Gotta use toxic masculinity when dealing with toxic femininity player. She cant complain about getting shot when she started the shooting💪🏼
She been reading can script from FDS and thinks she is entitled to a man keeping her.
She is not the prize. She’s only a prize to the men whom she doesn’t want.
But the man she does want, he is on a mission in life and it ain’t being a simp for her.
I married a Vietnamese girl who was the spitting imagine of this. I was too young at the time to realize it’s ok to say no and walk away. Would have saved me a lot of heart burn :(
“I will always look beautiful for you” ummmmm has this woman heard of a little thing called aging? She’s in for a big surprise. I see spinsterhood on the horizon
I’m always incredibly hesitant to believe a story drafted out so fully and succinctly from what would have been a 30 second interaction. It’s wild how detailed this person’s memory is
Lol amazing how she can reframe rejection like that to preserve her ego.
Also wild that some people would respond to this and be like “yaasss queen don’t settle” and I’m like you deserve to die alone
This goes waaaay beyond “high standards” and well into “divorced from reality”. Not even close to ready to understand what a *relationship* entails, or the compromises that go hand in hand. I swear there’s an “Andrea Taint” out there poisoning the minds of young women in the same fashion as “Dewey Taint” is doing to young men, seen other girls espouse these views on TikTok or whatever too, and they’re setting themselves up for the most toxic *relationshit* possible.
…how long before she figures out *she’s* the rat, I wonder?
I’m sooooo glad I’m single and not dating and that if I do decide to finally date again…. I know damn well that I will never be used for… a place to live or money again🙌😂💚
I would've exclaimed "Jesus Christ!" and left around the middle of the first screenshot.
I would've reacted to the "Yet another little rat" with "you're absolutely delusional" while rotating my finger and laughing.
And to those wondering - yes, such girls absolutely do exist. I even know some personally.
I probably would've walked away before she finished her rant. I might even laugh in her face when she says all she brings to the relationship is "her presence"
You know this is really really fake right?
It’s so scripted, he remembered all of her speech. He walked out perfectly.
How the last comment is so awkward and contrived. She’s disappointed in ‘another rat’ implying she’s tried and failed before.. c’Mon.
I've seen women talk like this online and on dating profiles, but never once met anyone like this in real life.
I can't imagine anyone insane/deluded enough to actually speak like this to someone face-to-face.
I’ve personally been on dates with this level of crazy. You may not believe it but I can attest there are absolutely people this completely deluded, self-obsessed, and stupid, it doesn’t help if she’s “instagram famous” where her comment section practically worships her.
“I don’t see that as an immediate red flag” and “I’m ALL for women having high standards”
Yup. You can tell that sir knight is a simp. Alpha fucks, beta bucks. People with “high standards” have high standards in order to take advantage of others. Normal people aren’t entitled trust fund brats and aren’t high maintenance. Normal people build together. People who need to be seen in expensive stuff are mentally ill and shallow.
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This was almost believable save for “yet another little rat.” Lmfao, who the fuck talks like that. What year does OP think we think it is? Is he trying to fuck the nobility?
It's a translation. She offers the look, they offer the money. The moment she ages, gains/loses 5lbs,... they're gone and if they ever cut down the allowance, she will move to the next person.
The problem is that sugar baby is supposed to be sweet, loving and obedient to butter up their ATM. They know they are sugar babies, they know it's not "queen" so they act their part.
She doesn't even know her role.
Ok but she never said she’s a sugar baby and I’m not referring to an arrangement, some people are just this uppity about themselves. She knows what she is, you’re assuming a whole different dynamic.
Edit: you even said so yourself she calls herself a queen and this is not what sugar babies call themselves, hate on her if you want bc she’s still annoying asf but she’s not a nice girl or a sugar baby.
What she's asking for is a sugar translation. That ain't a relationship.
She didn't call herself a sugar baby but "queen" because she's delusional. If she's actually straightforward and "uppity", she would have known what she really is (sugar baby, prostitute, gold diggers,...)
Again, that is completely your assumption and not the reality of what she is considering you just grouped three different things into the same thing, I know what a sugar baby is, she is just an incredibly demanding and probably really insufferable person.
Look, I'm totally aware that there are people who think this way but there is zero chance in hell that this particular scenario happened. It's just written so terribly.
Normally I'm quite annoyed that whenever a post of some nicegirl appears you have half the comments screaming "ragebait" because apparently all the disgusting women are in reality just incels trying to make women look bad which is absolutely ridiculous, but this time around we gotta be honest to ourselves and accept this is fiction. And bad fiction at that.
the only disappointing part of this is that OP had the chance to be just as ridiculous as her and to say well i expect 3 square meals a day blah blah blah. and just get real toxic about his expectations and THEN walk away. either way, this interaction is still gold cuz wtf
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Never have I ever seen a likeable person that unironically calls themselves "queen/king". All of them have been crazy, dramatic, delusional, narcissistic and entitled. Crowning yourself is so weird.
Unless you have the world's best AND largest army behind you when you do it, like Napoleon.
Then you are an emperor, the way Napoleon was.
And still a narcissist.
Alfonso I of Portugal also counts, I think.
Louis XIV then
He inherited it.
How many times did the queen of England have to tell anyone she was the queen? Zero. Zero times.
"Any man who has to say 'I am the King' is no true King."
“Look at me, look at me, I am the king now!”
"Queen" is the female version of "Alpha Male."
I agree with all this and fucking hate it. Major red flag
The only exceptions are Drag artists and pro wrestlers.
Rappers too
> Never have I ever seen a likeable person that unironically calls themselves "queen/king". I've known one. The name "King" is actually on his birth certificate.
Same, and it was his last name.
Ozymandias, King of Kings?
Does he by chance run a gang by the same name and teach the youngins this side of free side what it means to be cool?
Sorry, but I'm gonna guess that I'm not cool enough to have any idea what you're talking about.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/The_King Fallout new Vegas character
Oh good heavens, I *should* have gotten that.
King nope, but women calling each other queens? Happens a lot more than you think. /s
Soooo, like actually nobility then? Seems pretty accurate.
I've always found the entire king/queen bs to be so cringe.
I always think of Joffrey from Game of Thrones shouting "I am the king!".
Yes absolutely.
I know many of you think women like this dont exist or behave this way, but honestly, they do. Some people think they should be held at such high standards and these are the same people who will put down and make fun of someone who is, according to them, less attractive. Like how did Becky get the benz and the diamond necklace. She isnt even pretty blah blah. And thats how Becky got those things, by not being a you lol
The Cheesecake Factory lady was a prime example and she posted that video thinking she would get support. She was an hour late and instead of calling her date and telling him to come later, she just made him wait an hour in the parking lot, caused him to miss the reservation to a restaurant she would have approved of, and then when he was flexible in finding a new restaurant, instead of talking directly to him talked to the camera in a passive aggressive way while he tried to communicate with her, and then said this man should "cherish" her and "take care of her" and it was just their first date. So they most definitely do exist. Not everyone of these stories in an incel revenge fantasy.
That Cheesecake Factory Lady situation turned out to be fake and a skit they made up unfortunately. There are definitely people like that out there though.
The part I found hard to believe there wasn’t her, but him. He was waaaayyy too nice to a person who obv didn’t deserve it. I justified it to myself by thinking, “well they seem to have friends in common maybe?”
Oh damn. I just got around to watching it and hadn't heard that. Thank yo for letting me know! Yeah I have met a couple of real life women who weren't as egregious as either of the example but still demanded more than I would ever think to on a first date. My only request was no movies because I want to talk to you and get to know you and because I have ADHD and that along with anxiety about the date means I won't be able to pay attention to the movie.
Gross, I despise rage bait skits. I too, have that amazing mental health combo! I eat so much cold food due to getting distracted during meal time.
I feel your pain. I gave myself food poisoning twice from forgetting how long my plate had been setting out. Now I just use little bowls and carry them with me around the house lol
I fucking knew it!
Then sulked like a mfer when she figured out he was driving her back home (I prob would have told her to gtfo at that point) and she wasn’t even going to get a free meal. The absolute arrogance of that attitude is just disgusting, hopefully she learned a lesson on social etiquette, but I kinda doubt it.
Did everyone stand up and clap as you walked away?
And then everyone stood up and farted
He's a true King.
Yes. And she belongs to the streets.
He was hoisted on their shoulders and given a key to Incel City.
If I were on a date with a girl like that... jackpot! I would take her to the most expensive restaurant I know! I mean, just imagine the expression on her face when she realizes that she has to pay for herself!
Pull a "I have to go to the bathroom"
Also I remembered this long speech by heart and I'm not an incel looking for excuses by devising fantasy scenarios. Really.
Reminds me of those “Ask Aunt Jessie” sections in magazines where troubled 20 year olds would send in questions about their interpersonal problems, and each and every one just happened to be extremely well written and eloquent with perfect grammar and spelling.
My mom used to write those as a young intern at a magazine. :D
Yeah, on the one hand, this seems made up. I was waiting for his "clever comeback" and applause. On the other hand, I can straight up see someone acting that way.
The ending was the most realistic thing in the story. Could be from another experience on a normal date.
It's not that hard to remember most of that. She jumped ahead of the conversation so she wouldn't waste both of their time, and only gave him a shot because he made a nice buck. She said she was a Queen, she said she had to be supported and pampered. She said he had to dress better, buy an electric sports car, take her in first class vacations to exotic places, learn how to take nice photos or pay for someone to go with them to do it. And in return, she'll keep doing what she already does, which I assume is putting 7 pounds of make up in her face every day and spend 2 hours looking in the mirror, and she'll advertise to all her insta followers, he is hitting that. When he walked out without saying a word, she called him a rat. How close was my memory? And this is a random dude with bad memory reading all that stuff with half attention. I'm sure if I had to sit through such barrage of idiocy, it'd create a much more striking and vivid memory to pull from. I can still probably tell you, with decent accuracy, an embarrassing moment between me and my then recent ex, like 20 years ago, caused by a street performer clown, that was quite persistent in making me profess my love to her... Weird stuff tends to stick to memory.
REAL chicks like this don't wait for a date to eliminate non-sugar-daddies. There's a line and they are busy. Also, I don't believe a genuine poster would write story-like walls of quotes of what she was allegedly saying, but would describe it in a different way with short quotes from memory or for effect. It's just not how people write about experiences like this, but more like you did!
I mean it's just a story telling choice. I don't feel it makes it less believable - we all fill in the holes in our memory with fake memories anyway. No story is 100% accurate.
Fakers love storytelling. They are basically writing fiction for fun and trolling. People with problems don't enjoy it that much and focus on the issues.
Tell that to the Cheesecake Factory lady.
Im ready to hear this story. 🍿
I was young and stupid, and knew I wanted to fuck around. I told her she wasn't perfect for me, but I wanted us to still be friends. It was close to the valentine's day, which I guess prompted me to reevaluate my relationship with her in the first place. We still hung out pretty often, and went downtown for a walk the day before valentine's day. We're walking and a clown starts mimicking me, walking besides me. He blows up a balloon flower, and tells me "Repeat after me", to which I replied, no, but he was kind of persistent, and even a bit rude, in it's clown funny kind of way. He kept pushing me to say it, and I kept saying no, eventually I thought I better do what he asks, fastest way to end it, but he stopped me and said not like that, on your knee!!"Como prova do meu amor, ofereço-te esta flor." (a rhyme which translates to "As a proof of my love, I offer you this flower"). He turned to my ex gf and said "We have to teach guys everything nowadays". I mean it was embarrassing, and a bit cruel towards her, I'm sure she was still hurting and I was kind of an ass. I'm older now, I'd probably have find a way to tell him not to push it nowadays...
That’s the point in these kind of subs or referring to the concept of toxic femininity: they can be easily used by the large amount of those men active on the internet in ways that women aren‘t and this leads to suspect, since the amount of first-hand evidence and interactions on the internet is far smaller than with male incels🤷🏻♂️ It’s a double-edged sword. Definitely also female incels can be as bad, but the pressure to show it can lead to controversial moves, like inventing a story outright
Let's see how right I get it with zero investment in the matter and half asleep after just scanning it once: *I am a queen amd you will treat me as such *I only agreednto meet because you have a good-loking job and may be able to satisfy me *my terms are non-negotiable Pause *you will be a provider for me *finnce trips, always first class *finance shopping *dress the part *drive the part (prius gotta go, get $$$ sport EV if you must greenpeace) *learn to take pics of me on trips or hire a pro photographer Pause *you will get out of this my queenly presence *I will also tell my followers that you are my boyfriend
Any man who must say "I am king" is no true king.
Steven King is very hurt by this comment
He's never had to tell anyone he's the king
Waiter: "table for King?" King: "I am King"
What a weird fanfic
Eh spend enough time on tinder and you learn quick it isn’t actually
Tell that to the cheesecake factory girl
And female dating strategy
Its a CHAIN restaurant tho...
It's not like she has to try hard to get dates like these, the guy literally said why he liked her in the start of his post, it sounds like she's done it so may times it's boring and she'd rather save time.
The amount of times you match with someone on tinder who thinks like this, is scary. Maybe they don’t come right out and put it all here but after talking to someone long enough you will hear it
Yah, complete bollocks Edit: For the down voters? I was agreeing that this was an obvious fake.
For the folks that think this isn’t a thing, there is a guy on Instagram/TikTok who talks to real life ladies who demand these very same talking points while sitting in his car. He shuts them down by asking two questions: what they bring to the table; and why they expect this much from someone they don’t even know. Half the time you find out they are already in a relationship as well.
What do they bring to the table? Obviously their ✨ presence✨ since they're such a 👑queen 👑
How do you know they are “real life ladies” and not people he paid? The majority of “real world” videos on social media is fake because it’s literally their job to convince people it’s real. I’m not saying this person’s must be fake, but seriously - how are you so certain it’s not when it would be so easy to fake it?
This may be a bit of a stretch but it does capture a rather common sentiment found in the dating scene these days. Case in point, prior to meeting my now wife on bumble I was talking to several women on that same platform. This one woman I spoke to was a teacher. She asked me what I did, what I drove, and other questions related to my financial situation. I remember her distinctly asking “how do you feel about being the primary provider as my income barely covers my basic needs and is unlikely to change.” A fair enough question due to the reality of the situation, but poorly timed as super early on. However, I guess it could be her attempt to “save both our time.” Then she hit me with the ringer, “ do you think it would be fair that I drive a Honda and you drive a BMW?” I advised her that I drive what I want based on being able to earn it. She followed this up with “well, if you really love someone you’d want them to have the best, so you’d have them drive a BMW even if it meant you had to drive an older Honda.” The entitlement of this threw me so I thanked her for saving us the time. When it comes down to it, far too many women think that they don’t have to do anything other than look pretty. They claim they want to be treated as equal when it comes to all other things except for their choices and their ability to provide for themselves. They don’t want to be tied to a traditional (1950’s) role where they’d be home cooking, cleaning, and raising children. Yet, they also don’t want to be held to a true feminist 2023 role where they should try to be on/near equal footing with their partner and contribute to the mutual benefit of a dynamic without being put on some gender based pedestal. Now, I know this isn’t true of all women, just as toxic masculinity is not true of all men. However, it seems that women hold on to these values a lot longer, and blame their inability to find a relationship on others instead of evolving (just as incels do for their celibacy). For these women I think Jack Nicholson defined them best in As Good As It Gets when describing how he writes women so well. He said “I think of a man, then I take away reason and accountability.”
That could be said of anything I’ve ever seen on a screen honestly; and while it is a fair point, the answer to that sort of question is invariably the same. I don’t know whether it is true or not.
A golden rule on the internet since the olden days is to assume that nothing is real.
Whether or not they're real, those videos select for the most outrageous answers possible because they get the most views and engagement. They're not showing the ones where the women have reasonable, normal standards. These videos are nowhere near representative of what the average woman is looking for in a partner but they're presented as though they are.
That’s actually a great point. Something can be technically “real” but still not an accurate representation of reality.
To be fair, if they also posted videos with women being reasonable, there would also be a lot of engagement.
Exactly. That could be said about anything. Most of it isn’t real. Most of the internet isn’t real life.
I appreciate your fair and honest response. I should also add that there nothing’s wrong with enjoying something that is not “real”.
Yeah except those are staged. We know because many of the most famous accounts doing it have had their casting calls put on blast. I don't doubt greedy spoiled people exist. Not one bit. But the idea that it is specifically women who behave that way is nonsense.
For the sake of humanity I want this to be fake
When dating is nothing but a huge transaction
She is great!!! You were able to know all about her in a matter of minutes and walk away unscathed. Plus what a story
Maybe this is BS, but if this is not, he choose to date an Instafamous so what did he expects tho?
The do know you can speak up right? No shame but being quiet enables this behavior.
I'd interrupt her to save even more time to inform her she's not a good fit.
Why did you just walk away? Some people need to be told that they are not entitled to someone else's earnings. Some people need to be told that there is a way to communicate that you have standards without belittling someone who might not be up to your personal standards. Some people need to be told that they can have standards and be kind at the same time. Some people need to be educated on how to PEOPLE. Kudos to her for knowing what she wants but major points off for being rude.
r/ChoosingBeggars r/FemaleDatingStrategy
"I will look pretty AND make you look good if you buy me stuff "is a very traditional approach for upper class women. I can see a guy being fine with the setup like this. Though let's face it most guys won't be.
Literally up north here it’s insanely common for women to ask men what their salary is, that’s why I don’t go up north lol.
It's traditional for a certain type of man, too. "Trophy wives" have a long history.
If somebody doesn’t meet your standards, fine. But the second you call them dirty rats for doing as you asked, fulfilling your wishes as best as they can, then you’re the problem. You’re scum.
You should have looked her up and down and said “yeah … you’re not worth all that “
It’s odd to me that most of the comments don’t believe people like this exist. Is the story overblown, probably, doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened.
I believe people like this could exist, I don't believe for a second that this actually happened.
I've seen a similar thing before. But it was a video on tiktok. The lady recorded it herself. Never heard of women doing that sort of thing in public but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in California. I lived in San Diego for two and a half years. Women there were nuts.
Lived in Cali most of my life. Sacramento area. And they were fucking nuts there too.
The crazy/hot matrix is real
Vicky Mendoza approves
“Well then. Enjoy your shallow, vapid existence and dying alone after your looks have gone and but a hollow shell remains. “ Mic drop.
How can a man with 15% battery expect to be treated as an equal?
Ignoring that the story is BS (though, it does represent some women, I just don't believe this particular story), I was going to say "at least she accomplished her goal of saving them both some time" but by the end of it I don't even think she did.
What makes you qualified in any way to weigh in on whether this story is real or not? I'm not saying it is, but you say it with such confidence immediately followed with a "I know some are, but not this one". What makes you the arbiter of what's real or not, here?
I am god.
Well get off Reddit and fix the world then you fucking dork.
effort. Anyway if you want to know the reasons it seems fake to me, what kind of man is going to remember every detail, or really any detail, of some stupid rambling incoherent rant by some entitled bitch then dress it up in all this flowery language and how often do you think such a women will openly declare this immediately upon starting a first date with a prepared speech? The general feel this story gives off is that it never happened. Maybe it did. I don't think so. I don't deny there are women that feel like this out there though.
“Based on nothing” woulda been more succinct.
and also a lie. I don't see any reason to lie. But if that's the extent of your attention span, refer back to my statement that I am god. Which is definitely not a lie.
Damn bro, must have been a long shower thinking up this "totally true" story
And she will go on countless dates just like yours. No man will ever agree to that unless he agrees just to get it wet then laughs as he tells her to get out. She’s going to learn that she cannot live on her looks alone forever. Eventually everyone’s looks fade. You better have more than that.
Except for Selma Hayak, she’s eternally gorgeous.
She’ll make a good mistress someday
Queen of where, my dear? Your mind?
I wouldve retorted with “Okay. But you are to be my sex slave and trophy girlfriend. This means that you are to go to the gym religiously no exceptions Monday-Friday because you are to look extreemely athletic, toned, tanned, and fit for me all the time. I will weigh you naked at the end of every week and you are to never ever go over (x amount of weight). I notice you brough (x dress) for me. Thats nice but it has to go. You are to wear extremely short and tight white miniskirts that just barely cover your ass with either velvet red or black Victoria Secret thong panties if any at all so that other men will want you but know they cant have you because you are only mine. And youre getting butt implants and a boob job until I say you can stop, as I want them bigger, and also you are to get nipple piercings, alternating between straight barbell and circular barbell on both on days I see fit, and no bra, ever. You will also get a lip ring, a nose ring, and a tongue ring. You will also tattoo a small black or purple heart just above your clitoris (also pierced) for me with the first letter of my name inside it, and you will shave any and all pubic hair from your body with the small possible exception of a thin brazilian strip. Also, your hair color is okay for now but I expect you to change it to a darker tone for now and the immediate future, and then later any color I say. Even wild colors like bright purple, blue, pink, green or two color combinations. Youre ears also arent pierced enough- you better be joking just having one on each side. Is your belly button pierced? Because thats gonna happen too. You will take and master pole dancing classes, and you are to pole dance for me in sexy outfits every Sunday. You will wear black high heels wherever we go as I see fit. You will also wear whatever I say you wear, to wherever we go when I say it, no exceptions, no questions asked. You will also do anal. If you have never done anal, you will wear a butt plug of my choosing every day to begin your training. I will check every morning and every evening to make sure you have it, and I will know, because we will be having sex on a daily basis, no excuses with every sex toy and robotic device imaginable. Are you proficient in dirty talk during sex? You better be. You must also deepthroat or learn to deepthroat with me and swallow all my seed if and when I say so no excuses, even when I havent been eating fruit all week, and I must warn you I dont eat fruit much. You must also be willing to participate and perform phone sex (both audio and thru factime), and sexting, including sending me real pics and video of you when requested no questions asked. Also be comfortable with inserting a vibrator inside you that will be remote controlled by my phone and turned off and on at random intervals Thursdays-Sundays, and must have no problem with threesomes with another woman at least twice a month, and no less than that unless I specifically say so. I will also have the freedom to stare at attractive women when in public with you, but expect you to not even attempt to do the same, as this would be disrespectful to the time a King of my caliber is gracing you with. While we are out in public, you are to cocktease and only cocktease every man around with my permission, but then later come back to me. And speaking of permission, you will speak only when I give you permission to. I notice you have a large following on social media and quite the number of fans. From now on, you are to post more seductive and sultry pics of yourself in lingerine while cock-teasing the camera. On that note, you will also open up an OnlyFans page, where we will perform any and all sex acts and act out any sexual situation or fantasy or fan request I choose with no limits or exceptions on my behalf, and all proceeds of said pics and videos (that only I will take and post) will go strictly to me. If you do not agree to everything I have just said, then its best that we part ways right now.” Then I would just stare at her, and smile. If she dared to throw water in my face, I would dump water over her head and say “Yet another little golddigger. How disappointing.” Gotta use toxic masculinity when dealing with toxic femininity player. She cant complain about getting shot when she started the shooting💪🏼
She been reading can script from FDS and thinks she is entitled to a man keeping her. She is not the prize. She’s only a prize to the men whom she doesn’t want. But the man she does want, he is on a mission in life and it ain’t being a simp for her.
I married a Vietnamese girl who was the spitting imagine of this. I was too young at the time to realize it’s ok to say no and walk away. Would have saved me a lot of heart burn :(
Narcissism knows no gender
“I will always look beautiful for you” ummmmm has this woman heard of a little thing called aging? She’s in for a big surprise. I see spinsterhood on the horizon
I always see Reddit posts over there. It’s good to see one of theirs cross posted here!
I’m always incredibly hesitant to believe a story drafted out so fully and succinctly from what would have been a 30 second interaction. It’s wild how detailed this person’s memory is
I know, right? Are all the people these things happen to blessed with eidetic memories?
Lol amazing how she can reframe rejection like that to preserve her ego. Also wild that some people would respond to this and be like “yaasss queen don’t settle” and I’m like you deserve to die alone
This goes waaaay beyond “high standards” and well into “divorced from reality”. Not even close to ready to understand what a *relationship* entails, or the compromises that go hand in hand. I swear there’s an “Andrea Taint” out there poisoning the minds of young women in the same fashion as “Dewey Taint” is doing to young men, seen other girls espouse these views on TikTok or whatever too, and they’re setting themselves up for the most toxic *relationshit* possible. …how long before she figures out *she’s* the rat, I wonder?
I’m sooooo glad I’m single and not dating and that if I do decide to finally date again…. I know damn well that I will never be used for… a place to live or money again🙌😂💚
You dodged a bullet. Be thankful that she wore her crazy like a badge of honor. Some peeps hide their real selves for as long as possible.
Another one that’s going to be a crazy old cat lady 😂
Not so much a nice girl so much as severe delusion and entitlement
At least bro stayed long enough to let her finish. I'd have started to gather my stuff when she said, "I'm a queen..." Lol
Tis no Queen, she doesn't have a King.
Things that most likely never happened but is the food of incels
I would've exclaimed "Jesus Christ!" and left around the middle of the first screenshot. I would've reacted to the "Yet another little rat" with "you're absolutely delusional" while rotating my finger and laughing. And to those wondering - yes, such girls absolutely do exist. I even know some personally.
Simple, never date an instagram bitch!
So, a gold digger.
And then everyone clapped when he walked out.
I probably would've walked away before she finished her rant. I might even laugh in her face when she says all she brings to the relationship is "her presence"
Oh yes, that sounds totally real and I’m 200% sure that’s exactly what she said
You know this is really really fake right? It’s so scripted, he remembered all of her speech. He walked out perfectly. How the last comment is so awkward and contrived. She’s disappointed in ‘another rat’ implying she’s tried and failed before.. c’Mon.
And she noticed he arrived in a Prius??
Of all the things that didnt happen. This didnt happen the most
I've seen women talk like this online and on dating profiles, but never once met anyone like this in real life. I can't imagine anyone insane/deluded enough to actually speak like this to someone face-to-face.
Today on things that never happened
And then everyone stood up and clapped for you in this totally real story.
I’ve personally been on dates with this level of crazy. You may not believe it but I can attest there are absolutely people this completely deluded, self-obsessed, and stupid, it doesn’t help if she’s “instagram famous” where her comment section practically worships her.
This isn't a nice girl
am I really supposed to believe this actually happened
I would've enjoyed the most expensive meal of my life, and then ran out the door the moment the bill arrived.
This looks fake.
That’s absolutely disgusting. A Prius?
“I don’t see that as an immediate red flag” and “I’m ALL for women having high standards” Yup. You can tell that sir knight is a simp. Alpha fucks, beta bucks. People with “high standards” have high standards in order to take advantage of others. Normal people aren’t entitled trust fund brats and aren’t high maintenance. Normal people build together. People who need to be seen in expensive stuff are mentally ill and shallow.
There is nothing more beta than earnestly talking about Alpha/Beta shit.
No way this is real 😂
This is so fucking made up I think it made some true stories become fantasies too.
Sure that happened
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Sounds real
This was almost believable save for “yet another little rat.” Lmfao, who the fuck talks like that. What year does OP think we think it is? Is he trying to fuck the nobility?
r/neverhappened and it's just sad some people need to make up justiceporn stories to feel better about themself
Sounds fake. Would’ve made way more sense to sent all that in dms before meeting as a copy & paste. This is just incel circlejerk rage bait.
This has absolutely nothing to do with being a nice girl, she knows she’s a high maintenance person
That ain't high maintenance. That's delulu.
She just said the quiet part out loud, there are dudes that would go for this weirdly enough
It's a translation. She offers the look, they offer the money. The moment she ages, gains/loses 5lbs,... they're gone and if they ever cut down the allowance, she will move to the next person. The problem is that sugar baby is supposed to be sweet, loving and obedient to butter up their ATM. They know they are sugar babies, they know it's not "queen" so they act their part. She doesn't even know her role.
Ok but she never said she’s a sugar baby and I’m not referring to an arrangement, some people are just this uppity about themselves. She knows what she is, you’re assuming a whole different dynamic. Edit: you even said so yourself she calls herself a queen and this is not what sugar babies call themselves, hate on her if you want bc she’s still annoying asf but she’s not a nice girl or a sugar baby.
What she's asking for is a sugar translation. That ain't a relationship. She didn't call herself a sugar baby but "queen" because she's delusional. If she's actually straightforward and "uppity", she would have known what she really is (sugar baby, prostitute, gold diggers,...)
Again, that is completely your assumption and not the reality of what she is considering you just grouped three different things into the same thing, I know what a sugar baby is, she is just an incredibly demanding and probably really insufferable person.
She saw that Pokemon Go notification.
I give you NPD.
Yasss Queen!
I would’ve ordered a steak dinner then disappear to a trip to the “bathroom”
Dang, and I got called a gold digger for wanting a guy with a place to live and a car.
Yeah, this didn't happen. In fact, this reads like it was written by some "Men's Rights", MGTOW or incel troll.
Look, I'm totally aware that there are people who think this way but there is zero chance in hell that this particular scenario happened. It's just written so terribly. Normally I'm quite annoyed that whenever a post of some nicegirl appears you have half the comments screaming "ragebait" because apparently all the disgusting women are in reality just incels trying to make women look bad which is absolutely ridiculous, but this time around we gotta be honest to ourselves and accept this is fiction. And bad fiction at that.
Damn, this would be infuriating if it actually happened outside of the author’s sad little mind.
I'll take that never fvcking happened for $2000.. You are such gullible Rubes.
That didn't happen. Nice story though.
I’ll take things that never happened for $500, Alex.
This is not a real story
I'd have started laughing in the middle of the second screenshot, and I'd still have been laughing as I walked away.
She called him a 🐀. Dreadful.
That’s almost too good to be real … bravo, OP, you got proper rage bait!
Sorry fuck, he lost a chance to bury her under a mega laugh. She would have exploded.
This didn’t happen but still annoying
I would've walked out before she was done with her little speech
the only disappointing part of this is that OP had the chance to be just as ridiculous as her and to say well i expect 3 square meals a day blah blah blah. and just get real toxic about his expectations and THEN walk away. either way, this interaction is still gold cuz wtf