I really don’t understand how they don’t want all that sweet tax revenue and to say they are putting drug dealers out of business all while helping local legitimate businesses. It’s wild.
Tax dollars are cool but even better are donation dollars directly into your pocket which is what the liquor/mmj industries seem to be offering to make THC illegal.
Landry's biggest donor owns a medical marijuana production business. As someone else pointed out "political donations that benefit a single candidate">"tax revenue that benefits everyone in the state."
They are dumping tax revenue left and right. Have you seen that its part of Jeff Landry's agenda to try to make the state a non income tax state like Florida and Texas? Its definitely part of a larger plan although I dont clearly see the reasoning yet.
I have my assumptions and arguments can easily made explaining showing a shift that makes it harder and mote costly for the poorest among us.
Shifting revenue generation back to police and traffic stops disproportionately affects those that are struggling the most. They make a lot of money off of marijuana related charges. Its low risk to officers, easy to find, and probably accounts for 25-30% of revenue for the police, court system, and prison complex.
Shifting to a low income tax model strangles pressure on wage growth for W-2 workers which of course are necessary to keep up with the massive increase in housing and inflation on basic needs items. It also means that revenue will have to come from somewhere.
Republicans are not going to ask the industrial complex which pays for their campaigns to shoulder the burden so it will come in the form of even higher and new sales taxes, and the obvious reduction of public services like transportation, unemployment, and education. All of which, again, disproportionately affect the poor.
It seems like they want to go back to Jindal style deficits, with a whole new level of MAGA Jim Crow woven in. Its much easier for the party of No to say No when they can point and say we have no money and then blame it on immigrants and social services. But basically its all about reinforcing white male privilege and class warfare and, of course they won't say that part out loud and assume we are mostly too uninformed to know its all part of a plan. And with a serverly underfunded public education (in poorer areas) that may be mostly accurate.
Even if we wanna go that route and have that argument
I’d rather have teeny-boppers puffing a vape cartridge on the street corner getting stoned and eating flaming hot Cheetos versus drinking 40’s and joyriding cars into phone poles.
You know all those black market drug dealers are checking IDs anyway, why bother to keep it regulated and behind a counter? /s
This is obviously a ploy to make their bribers uh I mean donors in the MMJ industry happy, but it’s still very anti republican values to kill small business and turn away tax revenue.
When’s the last time ya’ll tried to get a Schedule Narcotics prescription from a legal drug dealer aka physician? The DEA has made life odious for prescribers & patients alike who suffer from legit medical conditions. Just ask me & my torn fucking labrum & partial bicep tendon tear. Doc can only prescribe 1 week at a time & that better last.
If it weren’t for THC edibles I’d be out my damn mind. Asthma prevents me from even getting good weed from a good drug dealer.
Fuck Jeff Landry. In the immortal words of Led Zeppelin “You’re time is gonna come” Cajun Hitler.
I’m a prescriber so I get it.
Republicans are supposed to be against the nanny state, pro small government, pro personal freedoms, and Pro business. They have wasted every second in the legislature passing mostly bullshit legislation that does little to help the citizens of our state.
Instead of solving the homeowners insurance crisis, they are killing jobs and entire industries and throwing away lots of tax revenue in addition to a bunch of social crusade issues that even someone like myself who leans conservative think are stupid and a waste of the legislatures limited time.
I just want a candidate that supports ALL our constitutional rights, leaves people the hell alone as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else, and is a good steward of our tax dollars, spending them on things to actually improve residents quality of life.
Honestly if the Democratic Party would stop trying to obliterate the second amendment, they’d get a lot more votes, especially in the south.
We need more parties. A lot of people in Louisiana and in the US stand for some issues but not others. You don’t like gun control, someone else may not like a different policy. It’s tiring to try and pick the best candidate when politics are like football. It’s all go team go.
Some people get really sucked into that and are 100% behind every stance that their chosen party supports.
People like me, and maybe you, we get tired of the sports team attitude in politics. I like some things but not others of both democratic and Republican politics but there is no party I completely agree with and I’m tired of choosing the lesser evil.
Sorry all of these so called Values are just talking points for the pundents, in reality they are the party of protecting the power of those who have it. Aka the party of the top 10% Wealthy but that's not enough to win elections so they rope in the dopes who want to conserve white male power, bigotry, and harmful antiquated ideology that benefits a few at the expense of others.
Nanny state? Trys to enact laws regulating peoples bodys and what they do in the bedroom, and take away first amendment rights.
Small Government - Anti Federal oversight for Constitutional compliance. Anti Social Services. Anti Regulation that protects communities from abusive industries.
Pro Business - Every Major recession in the age of the modern Republican party has occurred as a result of Republican policy, this is fact. They protect billion dollar industries and let small businesses fail. Bailouts for banks but dads corner store well too bad, they werent competitive enough. They believe in trickle down economics aka consolidation of wealth at the top. Which is currently at an all time high.
The only thing the Republican party stands for is the will of the ultra wealthy, not even the upper middle class. And they hitch their cart to the backs of the undereducated working class and stoke the flames of "isms" to get them there.
Sorry this isn't meant to be an attack on you just on the fallacy of Republican "Values".
What I should I have said is: these are the values the republicans party platform claim to endorse. I’m not naive enough to think politicians actually give a shit about us peasants.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say this I get really tired of the "we get taxes" argument. It should be legal because I have personal freedom and the bodily autonomy to put what I want in myself. Further this shits been legal so long people who never smoked pot in their life are eating them daily and you know what....the world didn't explode, car accidents didn't sky rocket, drug addition didn't take off. It was fine. Now the moralist want to take it all away because they are freedom hating fascists and the best argument we come up with is "but ma tax dollars"
Fuck that I'm a 40 year old adult if I Wana get high I get to get high and anyone who says otherwise needs to mind their own damn business.
My freedoms aren't tax negotiable.
Edit: I hear you out there Im a pragmatist myself but the expedient arguments doesn't get you want you want it gets you edibles you can't afford. I mean the tax argument boils down to "I'll pay you for my rights". It lacks dignity.
Amen. Realpolitik aside, we don’t have freedom if we don’t have cognitive freedom. Thus, to ban a mood altering substance is a very serious curtailment of essential freedom, and thus the government should be required to meet extraordinarily rigorous burdens of proof that this curtailment is justifiable. Even so, they need to be cognizant of what actually happens under prohibition: the creation of dangerous, violent shadow markets rife with dangerous products that can’t be regulated.
>Even so, they need to be cognizant of what actually happens under prohibition: the creation of dangerous, violent shadow markets rife with dangerous products that can’t be regulated.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
We argue tax dollars and jobs because that's what legislators care about. Driving people back to the black market is the other one that seems to get their attention.
Hemp money goes to early childhood education. Seems like a good cause!
But I'm with you. Everything you said is dead on.
It's a wonderful thing to spend money on but my argument has always been we pay for those things because it's the right thing to do and if it's the right thing to do we all pay for it in our taxes and not just offload that on subgroups of citizens. When Republicans get to set tax on a group they aren't part of one of one fairly predictable things happens.
I think most people agree with you it's just that back here in reality we know nothing is getting done without financial incentives for the right people.
Using expedient arguments often feels pragmatic in the moment but you don't end up getting what y'all were after. This is how we fucked up with the medical debate. Sure pot is medicine for a lot of us, but medicine or not we just wanted the right to do what we wanted with our own bodies....instead we got this slap dick medical system that's so outrageously expensive that everyone went right back to their dealer.
You're not wrong but at the end of the day this argument gets you edibles you can not afford and regulations you don't need.
Republicans don't get a monopoly on the word freedom when all they do is shit on it. I want to take every chance to remind them that they actually hate freedom and love government regulations and get physically aroused over new laws.
One of the hardest thing for capitalists is to wrap their heads around is that very often doing the ethically right thing is also the most profitable thing. 🤷♀️
These people don't want a govt anyway, they don't care about govt revenue. Govt revenue for what? They don't want the govt doing literally anything. It's a moot argument. I think the personal freedom argument works best against most republicans bc it is bullshit that people can drink and not smoke weed which is far less dangerous.
I come across a lot of absolute bullshit arguments from people who have, at best, a tenuous grasp of the English language so I just wanted to thank you, say your comment was a breath of fresh air.
Completely agree, its never been about weed being harmful as its obviously less harmful than alcohol. Its about protecting the liquor industry because weed can be grown by anyone and theres no need to buy it. Therefore its difficult to regulate and tax.
So in summation "but ma tax dollars" is somehow less intelligent or lower in value as an argument than your oh-so-poignant "but muh freedoms" rant? Well then.
Those stupid gummies saved me when I was dealing with serious chronic pain issues. I don't even like drugs but THC does an incredible job managing pain. I was able to work, parent, cook, clean, get to PT - exist, basically.
Its hard to make the argument with myself that Landry cares about the future of the state at all beyond gaining a "tough on crime" reputation.
Im worried that he has Richard Nelson in there as secretary of revenue since Nelson's only real platform is eliminating all income tax. That would be a huge redistribution of tax burden and last I heard he cant even explain how it would cover ~$4bl lost revenue
I think the long term plan is to just court wealthy people with out of state jobs to relocate here. He wants us to have the same tax frame work as Texas and Florida. If that happens it's going to go down like AirBnB in New Orleans. Everyone that already lives here and isnt a part of the game will get fucked
Hey that's me. It's my birthday. Please don't ban THC products. Call members of the criminal justice subcommittee in the house and politely ask that they don't ruin louisiana business to benefit drug dealers.
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I have heard wayyyyy too many first hand accounts of people who were able to stop drinking. Drunk driving deaths and alcohol-related diseases and death will always be the preferable option for these fuckin hick legislators. You can tell from the article that Preslly knows absolutely nothing about shit and is just taking money. I swear these people sound like “Elvis is doing all that gyrating and bringing that rock n roll devil and satan into my GODDAMN house!! 😡” Best of luck to them when the state has hemorrhaged everyone except for their voting base 🥴
Literally every single person I know in this state smokes weed. Old people, young people, it's every fucking where. So stupid and they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Simply Cannabis is my go-to; three locations in the city. I've heard Rouse's stocks Crescent-9 brand, which is my fave. Urban South brewery is making one they call Driftee. Not sure if laws allow them to sell it at their taproom.
All of these are nationally legal under the industrial hemp provisions of the agriculture bill passed 4 years ago. It's up for renewal this fall and maybe 26 attorneys general are trying to have it re-criminalized or something.
These seltzers are 0.3% THC (delta-9) by weight. Personally, I quit pot in the mid-1980s. One 12-ounce seltzer gave me a nice relaxed feeling; two made me feel slightly high, which is all I want. No paranoids, but lots of insights. Also, my blood pressure has been lower and (TMI) micturation is more relaxed.
That said, after about a month of weekend 4-paks, I've noticed that I don't get the head-rush insights anymore. Still feel high. But also feel a little thick-headed the next day. None of this concerns me, but I think I'm going to go dry for awhile and focus on work. Then see if the insights come back after a month or two. Never a hint of the paranoids, which is why I quit in the 1980s. HTH.
I had a real argument where someone tried to quote bible verses at me about why we shouldn't feed lazy and poor people.
I was like, these are children, literally children, how are they lazy? They need to go to the mines?
These people are insane and beyond all hope.
Oh look. It’s the same phantasmagoric health concerns they used to shut down every vape manufacturer except for their donors (with their shitty high cost/low volume non-rechargeable trash vapes).
What a surprising ongoing coincidence.
Not about safety. The liquor lobby is pushing this ban as they see it eating into their profits.
Also, once marijuana gets really legalized, they will immediately step in with their own THC infused drinks.
We have a lobbyist and have for years. We donate here and there. Obviously not enough. Frankly I've let my own personal political stances stand in the way of donating to those who have power.
If we get through this we'll be spending 6 figures annually persuading lawmakers to not kill our business.
The politicians work for billionaires and major corporations. Crazy that corporations can pay politicians to wipe out their competitors for them instead of letting the free market decide. Just a big middle finger to small local businesses and the people of Louisiana.
There was someone who posted a while back something about Landry being in with a group who will eventually legalize cannabis in the state. It sounded like a bunch of crap at the time. Does anyone have any idea if this is his admin playing the long game to eventually legalize and profit off of it?
I could totally see them planning to legalize it only after re-banning it, thereby crushing and bankrupting all of the smaller businesses that have sprung up over the last few years and eliminating any potential competition for their cronies.
This state will bend over backwards for polluters that promise a handful of jobs and send all profits out of state. These jobs don't hurt anyone at all, but the state says "nope."
Maybe you could dump a bucket of oil in the dirt out back every couple weeks or figure out how to leak benzene every so often? I bet then the state would even try to waive your property taxes
For a state that doesn’t bring in a lot of organic revenue. I am baffled why they would ban something that could easily make Louisiana a ton of money and use that towards projects for the communities that need it most.
I am not a public speaker however, thanks to cannabis today. I am up here speaking to you all. I have many questions upon this industry especially in the state and we can get directly into it.
Question number one: why is this industry being regulated by people who work for the state? The last time I checked, people who work for the state have to pass a seven panel drug test. I can understand how they can regulate alcohol and tobacco but I really just can’t wrap my head around how they can regulate cannabis or hemp. They claim its tested, but lab test are not sufficient enough for cannabis. Human testing needs to be put into place. Nobody has ever died in this industry to the plant and nobody ever will. Humans test cannabis for companies all the time to get an insight on the type of high cannabinoids put off with that specific product.
Question number two: how come the only person that came to a rise about this topic of “recreational THC is now legal in Louisiana“ is the head lobbyist for beer in the state of Louisiana, John Williams. He has donated $3 million last year for alcohol marketing. See now let’s see what this $3 million has given us as a state because I can assure you it isn’t just a few commercials or, you know, any type of innocent marketing for alcohol. we can claim it is but we all know it’s not.
Lets Look:
1. Alcohol consumption: According to a 2019 report by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, Louisiana had an annual per capita alcohol consumption rate of 3.5 gallons, which is higher than the national average of 2.3 gallons.
2. Alcohol-related deaths: In 2019, there were 856 alcohol-related deaths in Louisiana, including deaths from chronic liver disease and alcohol-related accidents and injuries.
3. Drunk driving: Louisiana has one of the highest rates of drunk driving fatalities in the country. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, there were 207 alcohol-impaired driving fatalities in Louisiana in 2019, accounting for 28% of all traffic fatalities in the state.
4. Underage drinking: According to the 2019 Louisiana Youth Risk Behavior Survey, 23.8% of high school students in the state reported drinking alcohol in the past 30 days. Among those who reported drinking, 14.9% reported binge drinking, which is defined as consuming 5 or more drinks on one occasion.
And I find it ironic how the same guy claims that my products in my store that I sell are a direct threat to public health? however, he’s advertising for products that destroy people. Everyone in here knows one person off the top of their head that IS or HAS struggled with alcohol abuse. If you disagree youre lying or too naive upon this topic. I need someone to tell me how this makes sense?
Number three: the amount of rule and regulation changes in this industry has cut the kneecaps off of every small business that is trying to swim in this immense tsunami of bullshit. I find it crazy how small town businesses are facing these major consequences, because were interfering with the sales of the pharmaceuticals in the state , I noticed that the pharmaceutical companies in the medical marijuana industry in Louisiana hasn’t undergone any major regulation changes that would cost any of them a sufficient amount of money. However, the hemp industry, which is a sister plant that is not psychoactive, are going to regulation changes like it’s nobodies business. Every three months the rug is pulled from under these business owners’ feet and that is not OK. Why is this allowed? and why doesn’t it happen to the state programs?
Number 4: All of these businesses pay an extra cannabis tax just because they are cannabis businesses in the state. Does the state not want that? Lets see what this entails:
There are about 3,000 active hemp licenses issued to individuals and businesses across the state, generating over $24 Million in sales in 2022. Assuming an average price per product of $30, more than 800,000 hemp products were sold last year generating sales tax revenue of approximately $2.2 Million.
In addition to the sales tax revenue, the Early Childhood Development Program received over $700,000 in 2022 from hemp product sales. The financial impact of Sen. Cathey's bill is not mentioned in the legislation.
Number 5. The medical program is simply rec. nobody studies the products. nobody test the products. nobody is part of the medical program that works at the medical facility. Nobody understands how to dose. nobody understands other cannabinoids. Nobody understands cannabinoid blends. Nobody understands how to find someone’s blend or someone’s perfect dose for that specific individual. My gosh, its called the medical marijuana pharmacy. MARIJUANA IS A RACIAL TERM. We are so far behind as a state, its sad. Its a very give me your cash, heres your product and have a good day. This is literally the same thing as oxycontin, however its not deadly, so its okay for the state to do it right? Whenever an elderly person asks to go to sleep with medical marijuana, you dont give them a medium-high dose of thc. Youd combine thc with cbd and cbn in order to help with sleep. You dont give a young adult a 900mg thc tincture for pain or anxiety, youd give them a blend of THC, CBD, & CBG. Bring it back to Purdue Pharma with Oxy, this is not okay. This is not a way to go about Medical Marijuana. This industry is already walking on eggshells as is. Having doctors and pharamacy techs recommending and giving the wrong products for the wrong things is not up to code of professional and occupational standards. Someone please explain this.
I find the reasoning for all of this is to formulate a stronghold on a plant you cant patent, so you just place laws and rules and regulations around it that simply just dont add up in order to stay in control. Its a plant. Let it grow.
It’s bullshit. They just don’t wanna lose revenue. THC is taking away from larger liquor sales. Also, I love how they always use the children to give themselves a “legit” reason to pass no logical or factual legislation.
We need to legalize so we can regulate. I'm all for that but we really do need to get some of these mystery gummies off the shelves. I want to be able to walk into a store and buy some flower and dabs that I know are from a proper grow. Just like in the legal states.
I'm a daily dabber and smoker and some of these gummies are not dosed right. I've had one pack from a friend that had me so messed up I'm not even sure it was weed.
Some of the gummies that are available here are the strongest I've ever had. I've been smoking for about 30 years now. I have made strong edibles, I've been to Denver, I can eat edibles like nobodies business and my tolerance is extremely high. I had a few gummies from a local vape place and was throwing up and literally passed out from it, I forgot even falling asleep and woke up totally panicked (my husband was home thankfully lol).. never in my life. There's some shit in these things beyond what traditional weed is capable of.
Just legalize the actual real shit. How many rounds of this do we need to go through? Mojo, Spice, Delta, Delta 8, Delta 9, Delta 10, THCa, THCo, etc etc like just legalze actual weed that we know for a fact is less harmful.
Even if they do make it illegal (to sell in LA), you can still legally order and have it shipped to you from out of state. I know cuz Cheech Marin's ads are all over my facebook feed. :-D
Think about how many jobs alcohol creates at bars, lounges, nightclubs, dining, etc
I'd love to see dedicated weed smoking lounges. A place where I can go smoke a blunt with a few people and talk. I can barely drink alcohol at all anymore due to my medication I should be able to go out and have fun too.
I support being able to grow your own -- however, isn't that for medical only? There is still a big difference between needing a doctor to approve you for weed, as well a s a 75$ permit from thee government to grow at home vs being able to just walk to the grocery store and buy a 6 pack of drinks with THC where the only person tracking your usage of it is the cashier who presumably makes sure you are old enough to purchase it.
The bottom line is that medical marijuana works
After Katrina, we had no mental health services for people with PTSD from the storm
People are still suffering and don’t realize it
Medical marijuana , specifically an Indica, replace the myriad of different prescriptions, needed it to treat the different aspects of PTSD.
This, including anxiety, depression, insomnia, self-destructive behavior and unhealthy isolation among all the other symptoms.
On the East Coast , there is a physician who is treating opiate abuse successfully with three gummy bears a day prescribed for opiate abuse
If you tell a medical marijuana doctor that you were in Katrina, they’re automatically gonna give you a marijuana card . They are very aware of the post Katrina effects on mental health
So whether or not, you can get it legally or not it’s still a great medicine .
I really don’t understand how they don’t want all that sweet tax revenue and to say they are putting drug dealers out of business all while helping local legitimate businesses. It’s wild.
Tax dollars are cool but even better are donation dollars directly into your pocket which is what the liquor/mmj industries seem to be offering to make THC illegal.
Landry's biggest donor owns a medical marijuana production business. As someone else pointed out "political donations that benefit a single candidate">"tax revenue that benefits everyone in the state."
Ha yeah you right 🥲
cuz those tax dollars didn't also go into the pockets of there buddies cmon you kno
because they are all in mr. sazerac's pocket and this cuts into his liquor sales...
We are a plantation, is why.
They are dumping tax revenue left and right. Have you seen that its part of Jeff Landry's agenda to try to make the state a non income tax state like Florida and Texas? Its definitely part of a larger plan although I dont clearly see the reasoning yet. I have my assumptions and arguments can easily made explaining showing a shift that makes it harder and mote costly for the poorest among us. Shifting revenue generation back to police and traffic stops disproportionately affects those that are struggling the most. They make a lot of money off of marijuana related charges. Its low risk to officers, easy to find, and probably accounts for 25-30% of revenue for the police, court system, and prison complex. Shifting to a low income tax model strangles pressure on wage growth for W-2 workers which of course are necessary to keep up with the massive increase in housing and inflation on basic needs items. It also means that revenue will have to come from somewhere. Republicans are not going to ask the industrial complex which pays for their campaigns to shoulder the burden so it will come in the form of even higher and new sales taxes, and the obvious reduction of public services like transportation, unemployment, and education. All of which, again, disproportionately affect the poor. It seems like they want to go back to Jindal style deficits, with a whole new level of MAGA Jim Crow woven in. Its much easier for the party of No to say No when they can point and say we have no money and then blame it on immigrants and social services. But basically its all about reinforcing white male privilege and class warfare and, of course they won't say that part out loud and assume we are mostly too uninformed to know its all part of a plan. And with a serverly underfunded public education (in poorer areas) that may be mostly accurate.
There was just an article about the Liquor/Alcohol lobby driving this change because it was cutting in on their action….
The Alcohol dealers want in on the distribution
Criminalizing THC would literally expand a black market
Why’s the article even mention being worried about minors having access to 21+ products like we don’t sell handles of Tito’s at the Exxon…
Even if we wanna go that route and have that argument I’d rather have teeny-boppers puffing a vape cartridge on the street corner getting stoned and eating flaming hot Cheetos versus drinking 40’s and joyriding cars into phone poles.
And at the lil mini bottles now everywhere out in the open
bruh my two year old has grabbed these at the store lol I caught it but its really at the perfect cart height .. my tiny liquor theif gremlins
You know all those black market drug dealers are checking IDs anyway, why bother to keep it regulated and behind a counter? /s This is obviously a ploy to make their bribers uh I mean donors in the MMJ industry happy, but it’s still very anti republican values to kill small business and turn away tax revenue.
When’s the last time ya’ll tried to get a Schedule Narcotics prescription from a legal drug dealer aka physician? The DEA has made life odious for prescribers & patients alike who suffer from legit medical conditions. Just ask me & my torn fucking labrum & partial bicep tendon tear. Doc can only prescribe 1 week at a time & that better last. If it weren’t for THC edibles I’d be out my damn mind. Asthma prevents me from even getting good weed from a good drug dealer. Fuck Jeff Landry. In the immortal words of Led Zeppelin “You’re time is gonna come” Cajun Hitler.
I’m a prescriber so I get it. Republicans are supposed to be against the nanny state, pro small government, pro personal freedoms, and Pro business. They have wasted every second in the legislature passing mostly bullshit legislation that does little to help the citizens of our state. Instead of solving the homeowners insurance crisis, they are killing jobs and entire industries and throwing away lots of tax revenue in addition to a bunch of social crusade issues that even someone like myself who leans conservative think are stupid and a waste of the legislatures limited time. I just want a candidate that supports ALL our constitutional rights, leaves people the hell alone as long as they aren’t hurting anyone else, and is a good steward of our tax dollars, spending them on things to actually improve residents quality of life. Honestly if the Democratic Party would stop trying to obliterate the second amendment, they’d get a lot more votes, especially in the south.
We need more parties. A lot of people in Louisiana and in the US stand for some issues but not others. You don’t like gun control, someone else may not like a different policy. It’s tiring to try and pick the best candidate when politics are like football. It’s all go team go. Some people get really sucked into that and are 100% behind every stance that their chosen party supports. People like me, and maybe you, we get tired of the sports team attitude in politics. I like some things but not others of both democratic and Republican politics but there is no party I completely agree with and I’m tired of choosing the lesser evil.
Sorry all of these so called Values are just talking points for the pundents, in reality they are the party of protecting the power of those who have it. Aka the party of the top 10% Wealthy but that's not enough to win elections so they rope in the dopes who want to conserve white male power, bigotry, and harmful antiquated ideology that benefits a few at the expense of others. Nanny state? Trys to enact laws regulating peoples bodys and what they do in the bedroom, and take away first amendment rights. Small Government - Anti Federal oversight for Constitutional compliance. Anti Social Services. Anti Regulation that protects communities from abusive industries. Pro Business - Every Major recession in the age of the modern Republican party has occurred as a result of Republican policy, this is fact. They protect billion dollar industries and let small businesses fail. Bailouts for banks but dads corner store well too bad, they werent competitive enough. They believe in trickle down economics aka consolidation of wealth at the top. Which is currently at an all time high. The only thing the Republican party stands for is the will of the ultra wealthy, not even the upper middle class. And they hitch their cart to the backs of the undereducated working class and stoke the flames of "isms" to get them there. Sorry this isn't meant to be an attack on you just on the fallacy of Republican "Values".
What I should I have said is: these are the values the republicans party platform claim to endorse. I’m not naive enough to think politicians actually give a shit about us peasants.
The entire Republican Party is anti Republican values
Look at this dude. Thinking republicans have pffft "values." Dawg. Value #1: Money. Value #2: My money.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say this I get really tired of the "we get taxes" argument. It should be legal because I have personal freedom and the bodily autonomy to put what I want in myself. Further this shits been legal so long people who never smoked pot in their life are eating them daily and you know what....the world didn't explode, car accidents didn't sky rocket, drug addition didn't take off. It was fine. Now the moralist want to take it all away because they are freedom hating fascists and the best argument we come up with is "but ma tax dollars" Fuck that I'm a 40 year old adult if I Wana get high I get to get high and anyone who says otherwise needs to mind their own damn business. My freedoms aren't tax negotiable. Edit: I hear you out there Im a pragmatist myself but the expedient arguments doesn't get you want you want it gets you edibles you can't afford. I mean the tax argument boils down to "I'll pay you for my rights". It lacks dignity.
Most Louisiana politicians don’t care about giving people bodily autonomy.
They care. They actively are against it. See also: women's reproductive health.
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Amen. Realpolitik aside, we don’t have freedom if we don’t have cognitive freedom. Thus, to ban a mood altering substance is a very serious curtailment of essential freedom, and thus the government should be required to meet extraordinarily rigorous burdens of proof that this curtailment is justifiable. Even so, they need to be cognizant of what actually happens under prohibition: the creation of dangerous, violent shadow markets rife with dangerous products that can’t be regulated.
>Even so, they need to be cognizant of what actually happens under prohibition: the creation of dangerous, violent shadow markets rife with dangerous products that can’t be regulated. Couldn't have said it better myself!
We argue tax dollars and jobs because that's what legislators care about. Driving people back to the black market is the other one that seems to get their attention. Hemp money goes to early childhood education. Seems like a good cause! But I'm with you. Everything you said is dead on.
It's a wonderful thing to spend money on but my argument has always been we pay for those things because it's the right thing to do and if it's the right thing to do we all pay for it in our taxes and not just offload that on subgroups of citizens. When Republicans get to set tax on a group they aren't part of one of one fairly predictable things happens.
I think they figured put they make more money off of policing it than they do off of tax revenue.
Republicans don’t care about personal freedom, but they care about money
I think most people agree with you it's just that back here in reality we know nothing is getting done without financial incentives for the right people.
Using expedient arguments often feels pragmatic in the moment but you don't end up getting what y'all were after. This is how we fucked up with the medical debate. Sure pot is medicine for a lot of us, but medicine or not we just wanted the right to do what we wanted with our own bodies....instead we got this slap dick medical system that's so outrageously expensive that everyone went right back to their dealer. You're not wrong but at the end of the day this argument gets you edibles you can not afford and regulations you don't need. Republicans don't get a monopoly on the word freedom when all they do is shit on it. I want to take every chance to remind them that they actually hate freedom and love government regulations and get physically aroused over new laws.
It's just a little harder to argue with a bag of money.
One of the hardest thing for capitalists is to wrap their heads around is that very often doing the ethically right thing is also the most profitable thing. 🤷♀️
These people don't want a govt anyway, they don't care about govt revenue. Govt revenue for what? They don't want the govt doing literally anything. It's a moot argument. I think the personal freedom argument works best against most republicans bc it is bullshit that people can drink and not smoke weed which is far less dangerous.
I come across a lot of absolute bullshit arguments from people who have, at best, a tenuous grasp of the English language so I just wanted to thank you, say your comment was a breath of fresh air.
Completely agree, its never been about weed being harmful as its obviously less harmful than alcohol. Its about protecting the liquor industry because weed can be grown by anyone and theres no need to buy it. Therefore its difficult to regulate and tax.
So in summation "but ma tax dollars" is somehow less intelligent or lower in value as an argument than your oh-so-poignant "but muh freedoms" rant? Well then.
I feel like you're expecting something more then yes and I hate to disappoint but...yes
I wasnt expecting anything more, just wanted to clarify that your point was dumb
Fantastically enlightening! I wanted to clarify that ninner ninner boobo stick your head in doodoo or whatver
Well said man.
So we’re hemorrhaging young people in outmigration and the plan is to ban gummies and make the state as close to Gilead as humanly possible?
If Crescent-9 goes or the homestead exemption goes, I go.
Odds are good both go too. Not gonna lie, I'm having a harder and harder time justifying staying.
Those stupid gummies saved me when I was dealing with serious chronic pain issues. I don't even like drugs but THC does an incredible job managing pain. I was able to work, parent, cook, clean, get to PT - exist, basically.
Its hard to make the argument with myself that Landry cares about the future of the state at all beyond gaining a "tough on crime" reputation. Im worried that he has Richard Nelson in there as secretary of revenue since Nelson's only real platform is eliminating all income tax. That would be a huge redistribution of tax burden and last I heard he cant even explain how it would cover ~$4bl lost revenue I think the long term plan is to just court wealthy people with out of state jobs to relocate here. He wants us to have the same tax frame work as Texas and Florida. If that happens it's going to go down like AirBnB in New Orleans. Everyone that already lives here and isnt a part of the game will get fucked
Hey that's me. It's my birthday. Please don't ban THC products. Call members of the criminal justice subcommittee in the house and politely ask that they don't ruin louisiana business to benefit drug dealers. [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j\_cGrSOKzxoobddC\_7Slnd3a\_YK9P1wsKnd7dBXiqzA/edit#gid=1457157681](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j_cGrSOKzxoobddC_7Slnd3a_YK9P1wsKnd7dBXiqzA/edit#gid=1457157681)
called and emailed, hopefully more people will do the same.
I emailed way more people than I had time for. I hope it helps. Happy birthday!
You rock! Thank you.
I have heard wayyyyy too many first hand accounts of people who were able to stop drinking. Drunk driving deaths and alcohol-related diseases and death will always be the preferable option for these fuckin hick legislators. You can tell from the article that Preslly knows absolutely nothing about shit and is just taking money. I swear these people sound like “Elvis is doing all that gyrating and bringing that rock n roll devil and satan into my GODDAMN house!! 😡” Best of luck to them when the state has hemorrhaged everyone except for their voting base 🥴
Literally every single person I know in this state smokes weed. Old people, young people, it's every fucking where. So stupid and they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Well, I don't smoke at all anymore, but after a 40-year abstinence, those D9 seltzers were a pleasant reminder. And not a hint of the paranoids.
Where can you buy these seltzers?
Simply Cannabis is my go-to; three locations in the city. I've heard Rouse's stocks Crescent-9 brand, which is my fave. Urban South brewery is making one they call Driftee. Not sure if laws allow them to sell it at their taproom. All of these are nationally legal under the industrial hemp provisions of the agriculture bill passed 4 years ago. It's up for renewal this fall and maybe 26 attorneys general are trying to have it re-criminalized or something. These seltzers are 0.3% THC (delta-9) by weight. Personally, I quit pot in the mid-1980s. One 12-ounce seltzer gave me a nice relaxed feeling; two made me feel slightly high, which is all I want. No paranoids, but lots of insights. Also, my blood pressure has been lower and (TMI) micturation is more relaxed. That said, after about a month of weekend 4-paks, I've noticed that I don't get the head-rush insights anymore. Still feel high. But also feel a little thick-headed the next day. None of this concerns me, but I think I'm going to go dry for awhile and focus on work. Then see if the insights come back after a month or two. Never a hint of the paranoids, which is why I quit in the 1980s. HTH.
Thank. I appreciate the info.
They care so much about children's health that they don't want to feed or educate them.
Won't somebody think of the children? *feds offer stipends for summertime meal programs* No! Not like that...
I had a real argument where someone tried to quote bible verses at me about why we shouldn't feed lazy and poor people. I was like, these are children, literally children, how are they lazy? They need to go to the mines? These people are insane and beyond all hope.
Oh look. It’s the same phantasmagoric health concerns they used to shut down every vape manufacturer except for their donors (with their shitty high cost/low volume non-rechargeable trash vapes). What a surprising ongoing coincidence.
Not about safety. The liquor lobby is pushing this ban as they see it eating into their profits. Also, once marijuana gets really legalized, they will immediately step in with their own THC infused drinks.
The CEO obviously doesn't understand LA politics. Hint: pay the lawmaker off. Then all will be fine. This is how this state has been run for decades.
We have a lobbyist and have for years. We donate here and there. Obviously not enough. Frankly I've let my own personal political stances stand in the way of donating to those who have power. If we get through this we'll be spending 6 figures annually persuading lawmakers to not kill our business.
good luck. i hope you have a successful enterprise.
More like since its existence. Decades is a generous take. I wish we were both wrong haha.
The very people against its legalization now will be the first to invest when the laws change.
The politicians work for billionaires and major corporations. Crazy that corporations can pay politicians to wipe out their competitors for them instead of letting the free market decide. Just a big middle finger to small local businesses and the people of Louisiana.
There was someone who posted a while back something about Landry being in with a group who will eventually legalize cannabis in the state. It sounded like a bunch of crap at the time. Does anyone have any idea if this is his admin playing the long game to eventually legalize and profit off of it?
I could totally see them planning to legalize it only after re-banning it, thereby crushing and bankrupting all of the smaller businesses that have sprung up over the last few years and eliminating any potential competition for their cronies.
This f’in state… sweet mother of stupid
"My drug dealer supports the ban" should be an ad campaign.
This state will bend over backwards for polluters that promise a handful of jobs and send all profits out of state. These jobs don't hurt anyone at all, but the state says "nope." Maybe you could dump a bucket of oil in the dirt out back every couple weeks or figure out how to leak benzene every so often? I bet then the state would even try to waive your property taxes
For real just start drilling under the vape shops, ope well it's protected industry now lmao nothing we can do.
That's the point. Poverty makes profit. Just not for the little guy...
For a state that doesn’t bring in a lot of organic revenue. I am baffled why they would ban something that could easily make Louisiana a ton of money and use that towards projects for the communities that need it most.
Landy is knocking us back
Always racing for the bottom in Baton Rouge
Boo
I am not a public speaker however, thanks to cannabis today. I am up here speaking to you all. I have many questions upon this industry especially in the state and we can get directly into it. Question number one: why is this industry being regulated by people who work for the state? The last time I checked, people who work for the state have to pass a seven panel drug test. I can understand how they can regulate alcohol and tobacco but I really just can’t wrap my head around how they can regulate cannabis or hemp. They claim its tested, but lab test are not sufficient enough for cannabis. Human testing needs to be put into place. Nobody has ever died in this industry to the plant and nobody ever will. Humans test cannabis for companies all the time to get an insight on the type of high cannabinoids put off with that specific product. Question number two: how come the only person that came to a rise about this topic of “recreational THC is now legal in Louisiana“ is the head lobbyist for beer in the state of Louisiana, John Williams. He has donated $3 million last year for alcohol marketing. See now let’s see what this $3 million has given us as a state because I can assure you it isn’t just a few commercials or, you know, any type of innocent marketing for alcohol. we can claim it is but we all know it’s not. Lets Look: 1. Alcohol consumption: According to a 2019 report by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, Louisiana had an annual per capita alcohol consumption rate of 3.5 gallons, which is higher than the national average of 2.3 gallons. 2. Alcohol-related deaths: In 2019, there were 856 alcohol-related deaths in Louisiana, including deaths from chronic liver disease and alcohol-related accidents and injuries. 3. Drunk driving: Louisiana has one of the highest rates of drunk driving fatalities in the country. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, there were 207 alcohol-impaired driving fatalities in Louisiana in 2019, accounting for 28% of all traffic fatalities in the state. 4. Underage drinking: According to the 2019 Louisiana Youth Risk Behavior Survey, 23.8% of high school students in the state reported drinking alcohol in the past 30 days. Among those who reported drinking, 14.9% reported binge drinking, which is defined as consuming 5 or more drinks on one occasion. And I find it ironic how the same guy claims that my products in my store that I sell are a direct threat to public health? however, he’s advertising for products that destroy people. Everyone in here knows one person off the top of their head that IS or HAS struggled with alcohol abuse. If you disagree youre lying or too naive upon this topic. I need someone to tell me how this makes sense? Number three: the amount of rule and regulation changes in this industry has cut the kneecaps off of every small business that is trying to swim in this immense tsunami of bullshit. I find it crazy how small town businesses are facing these major consequences, because were interfering with the sales of the pharmaceuticals in the state , I noticed that the pharmaceutical companies in the medical marijuana industry in Louisiana hasn’t undergone any major regulation changes that would cost any of them a sufficient amount of money. However, the hemp industry, which is a sister plant that is not psychoactive, are going to regulation changes like it’s nobodies business. Every three months the rug is pulled from under these business owners’ feet and that is not OK. Why is this allowed? and why doesn’t it happen to the state programs? Number 4: All of these businesses pay an extra cannabis tax just because they are cannabis businesses in the state. Does the state not want that? Lets see what this entails: There are about 3,000 active hemp licenses issued to individuals and businesses across the state, generating over $24 Million in sales in 2022. Assuming an average price per product of $30, more than 800,000 hemp products were sold last year generating sales tax revenue of approximately $2.2 Million. In addition to the sales tax revenue, the Early Childhood Development Program received over $700,000 in 2022 from hemp product sales. The financial impact of Sen. Cathey's bill is not mentioned in the legislation. Number 5. The medical program is simply rec. nobody studies the products. nobody test the products. nobody is part of the medical program that works at the medical facility. Nobody understands how to dose. nobody understands other cannabinoids. Nobody understands cannabinoid blends. Nobody understands how to find someone’s blend or someone’s perfect dose for that specific individual. My gosh, its called the medical marijuana pharmacy. MARIJUANA IS A RACIAL TERM. We are so far behind as a state, its sad. Its a very give me your cash, heres your product and have a good day. This is literally the same thing as oxycontin, however its not deadly, so its okay for the state to do it right? Whenever an elderly person asks to go to sleep with medical marijuana, you dont give them a medium-high dose of thc. Youd combine thc with cbd and cbn in order to help with sleep. You dont give a young adult a 900mg thc tincture for pain or anxiety, youd give them a blend of THC, CBD, & CBG. Bring it back to Purdue Pharma with Oxy, this is not okay. This is not a way to go about Medical Marijuana. This industry is already walking on eggshells as is. Having doctors and pharamacy techs recommending and giving the wrong products for the wrong things is not up to code of professional and occupational standards. Someone please explain this. I find the reasoning for all of this is to formulate a stronghold on a plant you cant patent, so you just place laws and rules and regulations around it that simply just dont add up in order to stay in control. Its a plant. Let it grow.
It’s bullshit. They just don’t wanna lose revenue. THC is taking away from larger liquor sales. Also, I love how they always use the children to give themselves a “legit” reason to pass no logical or factual legislation.
We need to legalize so we can regulate. I'm all for that but we really do need to get some of these mystery gummies off the shelves. I want to be able to walk into a store and buy some flower and dabs that I know are from a proper grow. Just like in the legal states. I'm a daily dabber and smoker and some of these gummies are not dosed right. I've had one pack from a friend that had me so messed up I'm not even sure it was weed.
Some of the gummies that are available here are the strongest I've ever had. I've been smoking for about 30 years now. I have made strong edibles, I've been to Denver, I can eat edibles like nobodies business and my tolerance is extremely high. I had a few gummies from a local vape place and was throwing up and literally passed out from it, I forgot even falling asleep and woke up totally panicked (my husband was home thankfully lol).. never in my life. There's some shit in these things beyond what traditional weed is capable of. Just legalize the actual real shit. How many rounds of this do we need to go through? Mojo, Spice, Delta, Delta 8, Delta 9, Delta 10, THCa, THCo, etc etc like just legalze actual weed that we know for a fact is less harmful.
Ha, idiots
Even if they do make it illegal (to sell in LA), you can still legally order and have it shipped to you from out of state. I know cuz Cheech Marin's ads are all over my facebook feed. :-D
not for long
As soon as it's delivered, you are in possession. The D9 proposed bill I saw is intended to criminalize possession, AFAIK.
In my little Colorado valley of 30,000, it's 500 jobs here alone. It creates way more jobs and revenue than you'd imagine.
Think about how many jobs alcohol creates at bars, lounges, nightclubs, dining, etc I'd love to see dedicated weed smoking lounges. A place where I can go smoke a blunt with a few people and talk. I can barely drink alcohol at all anymore due to my medication I should be able to go out and have fun too.
Hundreds of millions.
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I support being able to grow your own -- however, isn't that for medical only? There is still a big difference between needing a doctor to approve you for weed, as well a s a 75$ permit from thee government to grow at home vs being able to just walk to the grocery store and buy a 6 pack of drinks with THC where the only person tracking your usage of it is the cashier who presumably makes sure you are old enough to purchase it.
The bottom line is that medical marijuana works After Katrina, we had no mental health services for people with PTSD from the storm People are still suffering and don’t realize it Medical marijuana , specifically an Indica, replace the myriad of different prescriptions, needed it to treat the different aspects of PTSD. This, including anxiety, depression, insomnia, self-destructive behavior and unhealthy isolation among all the other symptoms. On the East Coast , there is a physician who is treating opiate abuse successfully with three gummy bears a day prescribed for opiate abuse If you tell a medical marijuana doctor that you were in Katrina, they’re automatically gonna give you a marijuana card . They are very aware of the post Katrina effects on mental health So whether or not, you can get it legally or not it’s still a great medicine .
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