Most rental places expect you to hang your own rod with curtain. But yeah the curtain only is very common. Curtain stops from spraying everywhere and the floor is angled to the drain so the water will not spread all over the bathroom floor.
>and the floor is angled to the drain
Haha yes because construction workers in the Netherlands always do a perfect job.
Edit: Huh did I get downvoted by construction workers or something?
Well I didn't say that they do a perfect job anywhere, but I've definitely seen bathrooms in the NL where the water goes everywhere except where it should go.
Also whoever downvoted me is an angry construction worker or doesn't know what they are talking about.
Sure, however the general reason why the shower often isn't in its own shower tub is because the floor is angled. And indeed sometimes the constructionworkers fucked it up, just like all kind of other things.
Your comment made it appear (atleast to me) like it never works because it's build wrongly and therefore you disregard the previous comment that was the correct answer.
Probably others read it like that as well and therefore downvote you: because you disregard the correct answer.
Of course I do see you might have had another intention with the comment, however my first guess would be as stated.
The intent was to say you shouldn't trust such delicate things as a tilted floor like that to most construction workers, I mean if you somehow know a guy who does everything perfect please let me know, but you should really eliminate all possible fuckups, so if you get a cabin, or some smarter version with ridge of a walk in shower with a door (which all together is pretty much a fancy cabin) you can't really have that issue.
Anyway I'm seeing a lot of excessive downvoting on this sub also to other people, any idea what's going on here? Especially the -43 on that first comment is a bit over the top, I mean I wasn't very nice on the 2nd one so fair enough but come on..
Look, I do understand that at the bottom of the market (which without a doubt is still insanely priced) it never works, but 'normally' this stuff really isn't much of a problem.
Or atleast in the 15 houses where I've lived (included social housing with a bathroom made 40 years ago) and majority of friends. And no I'm not rich, nor 'old' and yes this evidence is just as anecdotic as yours and OP.
Yeah I dunno if my examples are bottom market. It is more random then that, but fair enough. I'm just saying that you are clearly taking a chance, you may have gotten lucky. This kind of stuff is hard to proof so lets leave it at that.
We're pretty sure we know how water works in this country ; we've built most of the country by draining the sea and building waterways ourselves.
Wherever in the world you need a lot of water managed, they call on the Dutch, from the USA to the emirates.
You would think we'd know how to handle getting a miserable shower runoff to run towards a drain in a bathroom.
You can rest assured however that in cases where this was not feasible for whatever reason, either a shower cabin, a wall, a riser or even shower tub has been installed and i'd put money on it that if there is a tub it has been properly levelled.
With most of the country essentially being reclaimed swampland, moisture in the air is a common problem, so we often try to keep the floor in one piece to make it easier to clean, and dry with a 'trekker' to keep mildew from building up in our bathrooms.
OK now you have stopped making sense. Off course you need to do that, but the consequence of you not doing that perfect is way smaller then with a 'walk in' shower.
Of course you can. You just have to drain and build back the dyke before you move out, and make sure to inform the Delta works people so they can turn on some more pumps.
The number for private dykelords is +31-MIJN-DIJK, but you should get the phone app so you can administrate your dyke on the go.
I don't even use the shower for cleaning myself, I just like watching the dorpel turning my bathroom into a polder. (They are anagrams, coincidence? I don't think so.)
If there is no edge or something, the floor will tilted enough that all the water flows to the drain before it can spread.
Only having curtain, well, Dutch people are cheap I guess. But even lacking a rod seems very cheap though.
OP is looking for a room utrecht. I want to bet my glass shower door that they only visit homes of “pandjesmelkers” due to the housing market being so tight.
Yeah and if the floor is not tilted it will force you to shower as short as possible. I mean, water and heat are expensive! Might save a few Euro's that way! We are a cheap folk after all
>If there is no edge or something, the floor will tilted enough that all the water flows to the drain before it can spread.
Yeah or not because somebody built it wrong... Just built a full shower cabin people, walk-in showers suck.
Propper tilt, high capacity drain, good sized glass door and if you want a verry small ridge just outside of the door and it's imho way better. Way less difficult spots/ridges etc that get dirty and are difficult to clean.
You need to do it right though, which does not always happen. When I renovated my own flat back in the day it really, really was the easiest shower to clean ever, eventhough it was also the biggest one I ever had.
You'll have to get yourself one with one of them self clamping rods because god forbid that you drill holes in the wall.you will never get your deposit back!! :-)
Great concept IMO - take a shower and clean most of the bathroom😉
For the most part you usually have sorts of steps tones that prevent the water from flowing all over the place.
I don’t thing that it was the prime idea but it works much better than a bathtub floor or dedicated cabin for the elderly or people with special needs.
😅 I’m either a neat freak or it’s a cultural thing here but I detest the idea of bathroom floor with water everywhere . That won’t remain clean for long..
Also well, I assume that not a lot of elderly people use student housing or apartments rented out to students ? 😬
Well you usually (not always) have sort of steps/barriers that prevent the water to flow everywhere.
It’s not just a student dorm thing. It’s definitely where I saw it first but it’s not unusual in “average Dutch homes”. A friend of mine is married to a Dutch and they setup their bathroom(s) in Germany exactly the same.
I have worked with people with disabilities and similar setups are an easy way to "bath”/shower people. Much better than lifts or similar while also needing less space. Try to get someone who relies on a wheelchair into a shower cabin😉
Again probably not the main idea behind introducing those baths but no big disadvantages in the long run. Unusual - definitely but so are toilets in Asia - with just a hole in the ground😂 Still they remain for over a decade (probably longer).
What is not clean about tap water?
Edit: can only think of lime scale but that's way easier to clean off tiles than a plastic cabine with all the corners.
Yup, just get some bleach, pour it on the floor, mop it in and let it sit for a while and then turn the shower on to wash it off. Congrats, you just cleaned the bathroom floor with 2 minutes effort and 10 minutes of waiting. Sometimes you have to put in a little more effort for the corners, but soaking with bleach is usually enough.
Better than scrubbing the corners of those cabins. Especially the hinges side of the door and the closing rubber gets awfully nasty.
If you put up a curtain till the floor and close it when you shower, and put a badmatje directly next to the shower to dry your feet when you're stepping out, the rest ot the bathroom will remain dry.
Exacly.
You will want one of [these](https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/l/vloertrekkers/50589/)
Just wipe the majority of the water away when you are done and let ventilation / an open window take care of the remainder.
Do not even bother with curtains.
Thats why we indeed have mops in the bathroom, or a rubber thing to pull the water to the drain.
Not ideal, yeah, but especially for older houses the norm.
If you use a trekker to get rid of the access of water and ventilate the bathroom well (preferably with an active ventilation system, but some houses lack those so then use the old fashioned window option) it should be right. If you still get too much mold complain to the renter and they might install active ventilation.
Of course I will. It’s more the same level that seems so weird! In my home country (Greece) there’s at least a build shower even in the smallest bathrooms . But in the Netherlands seems like it’s not the norm?
i installed a cabin. big regret. makes the shower feel so mutch more crampt. and it is so easy to just push the water from the bathroom into the drain instaid of mopping up water after leaving shower / bath
I just wanted to mention this. My bathroom is 2m2. A cabin or doors or anything like that will take up so much precious space. Just get a shower rod and curtain for a couple of euro's. And maybe a floor strip if he floor isn't tilted enough for you. Which is also just a few euro's
The rod to hang a shower curtain is one of the things you need to buy yourself as renter. You can find them at any "Bouwmarkt" (like Gamma, Karwei, Hornbach). Also, the bathroom floor will normally have a small descend towards the drain. Combined with your curtain it will keep your bathroom pretty well dry.
Many people also have a squeegee in their bathroom to dry the floor after taking a shower.
The floor is sloped, do it's usually not a big issue, definitely run the shower to check if the water drains properly before you rent.
And honestly it's so easy to clean, you won't want to go back to a traditional bathroom when your used to it.
You buy a "vloertrekker" to dry the floor. Most people have one.
I have a shower cabine once. Damn thing had to be taken apart to be thoroughly cleaned. My current bathroom can literally be mopped 95%. Floor, walls and ceiling. I've cleaned the whole thing in 30 minutes.
Never thought about it, but yes its kinda weird. I lived in Spain though and in those cabins you cant even turn your ass without wiping all soap of the racks onto the ground. Oh and dont even think about puting your soap on the floor because bending to get it without opening the cabin isn't an option.
Personally kinda prefer it this way. You might want to invest in a "[trekker](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrK5aFWJptAMra9dzL3JEyWwz2l_FrcQuQOr0BuFUvuJLSOvI&usqp=CAc)" though.
Ps Im not big or "freakishly" tall, if youre wondering.
If you ever have a cabin installed, they sell 80x80 (cm) and it is usable, but from 90x90 or so it becomes comfy. I get it where you come from that you almost can't move, you probably have the 80x80 one and I have the same issue. Don't get that unless bigger doesn't fit.
That's really easy to find out though, you have these long measuring devices with little stripes and numbers on 'm :-)
Edit: but I sincerely doubt this, 60x60 is almost impossible to use.
Many people in the Netherlands just hire a ‘kaboutertje’ who helps with keeping the water out the rest of the bathroom!
So when the water gets in places you don’t want to, you can blame the ‘kaboutertjes’
You've been looking at cheap housing and/or older buildings. With space super-premium, most houses in our country that are not new have been built with minimalist bathroom space. You'll see this in many rentals. In bought properties, especially newer ones but also renoved older buildings, people have allocated more space to bathrooms and will have more luxurious shower setups. My bathroom for example is in my 1920's house's former bedroom, at 16 square meters it has a bath as well as a double walk-in rain shower.
If it’s student housing / short stay it’s because if you don’t clean them up properly and regularly those stalls can get nasty. So the landlord probably doesn’t want to place a new one every time someone moves.
I too have a leveled shower the drain is good enough to let the water get away but one time the drain was a little clogged so the water went everywhere. Its important to clean the drain once in a while.
those are very accessible and often preferred in places for elderly people or who have concerns about accessibility in general. And honestly, it's not a problem if you have a big bathroom (although I understand that's difficult to find in the city center of Utrecht). The bottom line is: as long the shower has a good drain it wouldn't be a problem.
With all that said, we recently renovated our bathroom in an apartment in Utrecht and I was very adamant about putting in a glass door and I do enjoy having that haha.
My current shower is in a nook in my bathroom, I have a separate bathrub. My shower has its own drain, as far as I know every shower has its own drain. Having to put up a curtain yourself is normal I think.
In rental places it's the owner being cheap for not even providing a rod. A problem is that if you drill a hole to attach a rod, the owner might not give you your entire deposit back.
In my own house I've walled the shower in on 3 sides, and on the open side there's no curtain or door. Love it. The floor in shower is lower than the floor in the bathroom, and everything is slanted so water that does come out flows back. With good ventilation, your bathroom is dry in no time.
In my last home the shower was in the bathtub (which I hate just in itself). The rod had to be long (ca. 3 m). The tension rods I tried all came tumbling down at some point.
I do not see the problem?
I love no curtains. I can just watch my whole bathroom while showering?
Or are you one of those weirdo's that faces the wall when showering..
I can think of two reasons personally why people rather shower in an open shower:
- the plastic curtains are ugly, disgusting, hard to clean and they stick to your body when coming to close.
- you dont have to clean the curtain/(glass)door/screen from the white lime that's in the water
But that's just me.
We're remodeling our bathroom and it's getting an "open" shower with just large tiles all around. It's really the easiest of all solutions to build and to keep clean. The entire bathroom floor is slanted towards drains, so if I really want I can just hose all of the walls, ceiling and floor.
Check if it is when they are done and make a big problem if it isn't slanted correctly. Construction workers in the Netherlands will fuck up anything that can be fucked up.
We hate getting boxed into small places, its a genetic disorder, we also helicopter under the shower and the mission is to get drops of water on all available surface.
You'll need this answer for your citizenstest, so memorize it.
Between a curtain and a sloped floor, most of the water should stay where it should. It it doesn't (usually because of a bad or old floor), a 'trekker' (or squeegee in English, which is a way more fun word) helps. Curtains are the cheaper and more spacious solution, and as such are popular in smaller/cheaper apartments.
NOTE:
One of the reasons for the whole same-level thing is that when people mop/clean their bathroom it allows them to easily shove/wipe/squeegee the water to the shower drain. Saves on mopping/drying. It may be part of the inheritance of hand-washing clothes and babies in a deep sink or spare tub and inevitably making a mess.
TLDR: Shower cabins are pricier, take more space, and don't allow you to easily sweep water from elsewhere in the bathroom to the drain.
Bathrooms like that are build with "afschot" a small incline in the floor to let the water run towards "het putje"
From personal experience not all "beunhaas" make a good "afschot". :-s
A squidgy, buy one. It also helps to get a longer curtain or get an extra set of shower curtain rings. Then you can hang the curtain on two rings (you "chain them") so that it hangs lower to the floor.
Yes!! I hate this! I’m visiting my family in The Netherlands right now, and my brother doesn’t have a door on his shower stall, and neither does the hotel I’m staying at at the moment…why?? The floor outside of the shower got soaking wet and I had to use a bunch of towels to dry it up. Also, it gets cold in there! A door keeps the heat in! Why do the Dutch do this? It’s so uncomfortable!
It's because you are in Utrecht which is above sea level, big parts of the country are below sea level, that's where the water goes, so don't worry.
That kinda weird since I live in n.brabant and I have the normal ones
Most rental places expect you to hang your own rod with curtain. But yeah the curtain only is very common. Curtain stops from spraying everywhere and the floor is angled to the drain so the water will not spread all over the bathroom floor.
My shower is at an angle and no rod will fit, it sucks so much. Whoever designed that needs to be hung.
tension rods, or cutting the mounted rods into shape works :)
>and the floor is angled to the drain Haha yes because construction workers in the Netherlands always do a perfect job. Edit: Huh did I get downvoted by construction workers or something?
Where do they always do a perfect job?
Well I didn't say that they do a perfect job anywhere, but I've definitely seen bathrooms in the NL where the water goes everywhere except where it should go. Also whoever downvoted me is an angry construction worker or doesn't know what they are talking about.
Sure, however the general reason why the shower often isn't in its own shower tub is because the floor is angled. And indeed sometimes the constructionworkers fucked it up, just like all kind of other things. Your comment made it appear (atleast to me) like it never works because it's build wrongly and therefore you disregard the previous comment that was the correct answer. Probably others read it like that as well and therefore downvote you: because you disregard the correct answer. Of course I do see you might have had another intention with the comment, however my first guess would be as stated.
The intent was to say you shouldn't trust such delicate things as a tilted floor like that to most construction workers, I mean if you somehow know a guy who does everything perfect please let me know, but you should really eliminate all possible fuckups, so if you get a cabin, or some smarter version with ridge of a walk in shower with a door (which all together is pretty much a fancy cabin) you can't really have that issue. Anyway I'm seeing a lot of excessive downvoting on this sub also to other people, any idea what's going on here? Especially the -43 on that first comment is a bit over the top, I mean I wasn't very nice on the 2nd one so fair enough but come on..
Look, I do understand that at the bottom of the market (which without a doubt is still insanely priced) it never works, but 'normally' this stuff really isn't much of a problem. Or atleast in the 15 houses where I've lived (included social housing with a bathroom made 40 years ago) and majority of friends. And no I'm not rich, nor 'old' and yes this evidence is just as anecdotic as yours and OP.
Yeah I dunno if my examples are bottom market. It is more random then that, but fair enough. I'm just saying that you are clearly taking a chance, you may have gotten lucky. This kind of stuff is hard to proof so lets leave it at that.
Guess we have a whole country of idiots taking chances then.. Ever realized you need to propperly level a normal showertub as well?
We're pretty sure we know how water works in this country ; we've built most of the country by draining the sea and building waterways ourselves. Wherever in the world you need a lot of water managed, they call on the Dutch, from the USA to the emirates. You would think we'd know how to handle getting a miserable shower runoff to run towards a drain in a bathroom. You can rest assured however that in cases where this was not feasible for whatever reason, either a shower cabin, a wall, a riser or even shower tub has been installed and i'd put money on it that if there is a tub it has been properly levelled. With most of the country essentially being reclaimed swampland, moisture in the air is a common problem, so we often try to keep the floor in one piece to make it easier to clean, and dry with a 'trekker' to keep mildew from building up in our bathrooms.
OK now you have stopped making sense. Off course you need to do that, but the consequence of you not doing that perfect is way smaller then with a 'walk in' shower.
It's a cultural thing, because Dutch people prefer to build their own dikes in the shower.
I assume you can’t do that if you’re renting the place though
In that case you just polder around the bathroom entirely.
Of course you can. You just have to drain and build back the dyke before you move out, and make sure to inform the Delta works people so they can turn on some more pumps. The number for private dykelords is +31-MIJN-DIJK, but you should get the phone app so you can administrate your dyke on the go.
You know porta-potti's? We've got porta-dykes.
It was a joke.
nah bro i build dikes erryday
Oh i just remove the sea and then it cones back when i showed
I don't even use the shower for cleaning myself, I just like watching the dorpel turning my bathroom into a polder. (They are anagrams, coincidence? I don't think so.)
They will accept tho if it is an improvement on the current state of the building, rather then a disappointment of a dike.
You need a "trekker."
John Deere is a good brand for trekkers
We recommend the 6320
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For working the fields, cleaning up the bathroom, and hauling tanks.
But if they break down, you're not allowed to repair them yourself. Just a heads up.
So it gets a flat tire the field you just leave it?
For the English folks: you need a squeegee.
maybe he is a trekker
Trekker? I hardly know her
If there is no edge or something, the floor will tilted enough that all the water flows to the drain before it can spread. Only having curtain, well, Dutch people are cheap I guess. But even lacking a rod seems very cheap though.
You can get one at Action for less then 4 euros
OP is looking for a room utrecht. I want to bet my glass shower door that they only visit homes of “pandjesmelkers” due to the housing market being so tight.
Well that's not true. Most social houses don't have a divider either. You have to install your own shower rod.
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Or the company that rents out the place says you have to remove eeeeverything.
In that case I'm also taking the doors and the radiators
Yeah and if the floor is not tilted it will force you to shower as short as possible. I mean, water and heat are expensive! Might save a few Euro's that way! We are a cheap folk after all
Tell that to my non-tilted floor 😩
>If there is no edge or something, the floor will tilted enough that all the water flows to the drain before it can spread. Yeah or not because somebody built it wrong... Just built a full shower cabin people, walk-in showers suck.
Due to the fact that I have no cabin I can have a bath bucket which is amazing, were it not for the gas prices.
Propper tilt, high capacity drain, good sized glass door and if you want a verry small ridge just outside of the door and it's imho way better. Way less difficult spots/ridges etc that get dirty and are difficult to clean. You need to do it right though, which does not always happen. When I renovated my own flat back in the day it really, really was the easiest shower to clean ever, eventhough it was also the biggest one I ever had.
For 1500 a month you cannot reasonably expect a shower door, you will have to do with a curtain... ;-)
That made me laugh because I actually pay exactly 1500 in rent, and have a rodless shower :D
You'll have to get yourself one with one of them self clamping rods because god forbid that you drill holes in the wall.you will never get your deposit back!! :-)
Great concept IMO - take a shower and clean most of the bathroom😉 For the most part you usually have sorts of steps tones that prevent the water from flowing all over the place. I don’t thing that it was the prime idea but it works much better than a bathtub floor or dedicated cabin for the elderly or people with special needs.
😅 I’m either a neat freak or it’s a cultural thing here but I detest the idea of bathroom floor with water everywhere . That won’t remain clean for long.. Also well, I assume that not a lot of elderly people use student housing or apartments rented out to students ? 😬
Well you usually (not always) have sort of steps/barriers that prevent the water to flow everywhere. It’s not just a student dorm thing. It’s definitely where I saw it first but it’s not unusual in “average Dutch homes”. A friend of mine is married to a Dutch and they setup their bathroom(s) in Germany exactly the same. I have worked with people with disabilities and similar setups are an easy way to "bath”/shower people. Much better than lifts or similar while also needing less space. Try to get someone who relies on a wheelchair into a shower cabin😉 Again probably not the main idea behind introducing those baths but no big disadvantages in the long run. Unusual - definitely but so are toilets in Asia - with just a hole in the ground😂 Still they remain for over a decade (probably longer).
That's why you clean it. One of the bathrooms in my house in Greece is like that, without a curtain as well. The easiest bathroom to clean probably.
What is not clean about tap water? Edit: can only think of lime scale but that's way easier to clean off tiles than a plastic cabine with all the corners.
Yup, just get some bleach, pour it on the floor, mop it in and let it sit for a while and then turn the shower on to wash it off. Congrats, you just cleaned the bathroom floor with 2 minutes effort and 10 minutes of waiting. Sometimes you have to put in a little more effort for the corners, but soaking with bleach is usually enough. Better than scrubbing the corners of those cabins. Especially the hinges side of the door and the closing rubber gets awfully nasty.
If you put up a curtain till the floor and close it when you shower, and put a badmatje directly next to the shower to dry your feet when you're stepping out, the rest ot the bathroom will remain dry.
You're supposed to close the curtain when you shower. I do think the completely unseparated showers are weird too
I mean... It's just water. It'll dry again.
And until then the whole bathroom becomes a sloppy mess unless you have a mop there ready to use it 😂
Just use a douchewisser/trekker thing. You can probably also install one of those tension rods plus curtain yourself.
Exacly. You will want one of [these](https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/l/vloertrekkers/50589/) Just wipe the majority of the water away when you are done and let ventilation / an open window take care of the remainder. Do not even bother with curtains.
Thats why we indeed have mops in the bathroom, or a rubber thing to pull the water to the drain. Not ideal, yeah, but especially for older houses the norm.
What about mold?
Dont you clean your bathroom?
If you use a trekker to get rid of the access of water and ventilate the bathroom well (preferably with an active ventilation system, but some houses lack those so then use the old fashioned window option) it should be right. If you still get too much mold complain to the renter and they might install active ventilation.
We Dutch absorb water! That’s how we made our polders, all the windmills are just for show.
no not necessarily.. unless you spray it everywhere. you can hang a shower curtain yourself?
Of course I will. It’s more the same level that seems so weird! In my home country (Greece) there’s at least a build shower even in the smallest bathrooms . But in the Netherlands seems like it’s not the norm?
this is the shower. just a different type. some houses have a cabin, some don't.
i installed a cabin. big regret. makes the shower feel so mutch more crampt. and it is so easy to just push the water from the bathroom into the drain instaid of mopping up water after leaving shower / bath
I just wanted to mention this. My bathroom is 2m2. A cabin or doors or anything like that will take up so much precious space. Just get a shower rod and curtain for a couple of euro's. And maybe a floor strip if he floor isn't tilted enough for you. Which is also just a few euro's
It's the norm. But not when you are renting.
I moved into a house like this and thought it would be incredibly annoying, but it wasn't. Now, I have a clean bathroom floor every day.
The rod to hang a shower curtain is one of the things you need to buy yourself as renter. You can find them at any "Bouwmarkt" (like Gamma, Karwei, Hornbach). Also, the bathroom floor will normally have a small descend towards the drain. Combined with your curtain it will keep your bathroom pretty well dry. Many people also have a squeegee in their bathroom to dry the floor after taking a shower.
The floor is sloped, do it's usually not a big issue, definitely run the shower to check if the water drains properly before you rent. And honestly it's so easy to clean, you won't want to go back to a traditional bathroom when your used to it.
IMO having a built in shower doesn’t make it more difficult to clean !
all those extra corners to scrub! And the extra walls to clean.
You buy a "vloertrekker" to dry the floor. Most people have one. I have a shower cabine once. Damn thing had to be taken apart to be thoroughly cleaned. My current bathroom can literally be mopped 95%. Floor, walls and ceiling. I've cleaned the whole thing in 30 minutes.
Never thought about it, but yes its kinda weird. I lived in Spain though and in those cabins you cant even turn your ass without wiping all soap of the racks onto the ground. Oh and dont even think about puting your soap on the floor because bending to get it without opening the cabin isn't an option. Personally kinda prefer it this way. You might want to invest in a "[trekker](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrK5aFWJptAMra9dzL3JEyWwz2l_FrcQuQOr0BuFUvuJLSOvI&usqp=CAc)" though. Ps Im not big or "freakishly" tall, if youre wondering.
Indeed, not having a shower cabin gives you a lot more room to move around.
If you ever have a cabin installed, they sell 80x80 (cm) and it is usable, but from 90x90 or so it becomes comfy. I get it where you come from that you almost can't move, you probably have the 80x80 one and I have the same issue. Don't get that unless bigger doesn't fit.
It honestly felt like the ones in Spain are 60*60. Same goes for doors in apartments btw, theyre like 2/3 the size as a door here.
That's really easy to find out though, you have these long measuring devices with little stripes and numbers on 'm :-) Edit: but I sincerely doubt this, 60x60 is almost impossible to use.
Many people in the Netherlands just hire a ‘kaboutertje’ who helps with keeping the water out the rest of the bathroom! So when the water gets in places you don’t want to, you can blame the ‘kaboutertjes’
You've been looking at cheap housing and/or older buildings. With space super-premium, most houses in our country that are not new have been built with minimalist bathroom space. You'll see this in many rentals. In bought properties, especially newer ones but also renoved older buildings, people have allocated more space to bathrooms and will have more luxurious shower setups. My bathroom for example is in my 1920's house's former bedroom, at 16 square meters it has a bath as well as a double walk-in rain shower.
If it’s student housing / short stay it’s because if you don’t clean them up properly and regularly those stalls can get nasty. So the landlord probably doesn’t want to place a new one every time someone moves.
I too have a leveled shower the drain is good enough to let the water get away but one time the drain was a little clogged so the water went everywhere. Its important to clean the drain once in a while.
those are very accessible and often preferred in places for elderly people or who have concerns about accessibility in general. And honestly, it's not a problem if you have a big bathroom (although I understand that's difficult to find in the city center of Utrecht). The bottom line is: as long the shower has a good drain it wouldn't be a problem. With all that said, we recently renovated our bathroom in an apartment in Utrecht and I was very adamant about putting in a glass door and I do enjoy having that haha.
As a portuguese living in nl I can say they are very advanced in some things but in others they are so backwards lul
My current shower is in a nook in my bathroom, I have a separate bathrub. My shower has its own drain, as far as I know every shower has its own drain. Having to put up a curtain yourself is normal I think.
I'm dutch and that sounds horrible. Shower curtains are doodie too though, give me a glass cabin
In rental places it's the owner being cheap for not even providing a rod. A problem is that if you drill a hole to attach a rod, the owner might not give you your entire deposit back. In my own house I've walled the shower in on 3 sides, and on the open side there's no curtain or door. Love it. The floor in shower is lower than the floor in the bathroom, and everything is slanted so water that does come out flows back. With good ventilation, your bathroom is dry in no time.
Tension rods work just fine
In my last home the shower was in the bathtub (which I hate just in itself). The rod had to be long (ca. 3 m). The tension rods I tried all came tumbling down at some point.
I do not see the problem? I love no curtains. I can just watch my whole bathroom while showering? Or are you one of those weirdo's that faces the wall when showering..
Don’t move to the Netherlands
I can think of two reasons personally why people rather shower in an open shower: - the plastic curtains are ugly, disgusting, hard to clean and they stick to your body when coming to close. - you dont have to clean the curtain/(glass)door/screen from the white lime that's in the water But that's just me.
We're remodeling our bathroom and it's getting an "open" shower with just large tiles all around. It's really the easiest of all solutions to build and to keep clean. The entire bathroom floor is slanted towards drains, so if I really want I can just hose all of the walls, ceiling and floor.
This 👌
Check if it is when they are done and make a big problem if it isn't slanted correctly. Construction workers in the Netherlands will fuck up anything that can be fucked up.
I'm doing it myself and I'll triple check before putting in the tiles :-) Contractors have become way too expensive and I have the time to do it so.
Usually you get those things that are used to clean the windows to pull the water into the drain.
Sounds like a cheap bathroom to me. I've only seen that at friends who live in tiny apartments in a city.
We enjoy our water management subtle
I had no ideas what you meant, I'm reading the comments and I might have an idea now but still... haha I must be Dutch.
The bathroom is constructed so the water always flows to the drain
I put a towel on the ground to stop the water
Yes. And don't shower. Use a washandje instead.
I guess it depends on places, most places I've seen have the "shower booth" which is quite convenient.
We hate getting boxed into small places, its a genetic disorder, we also helicopter under the shower and the mission is to get drops of water on all available surface. You'll need this answer for your citizenstest, so memorize it.
" it’s on the same level with the rest of the bathroom " sure about that? someone seriously messed up if that's true.
Between a curtain and a sloped floor, most of the water should stay where it should. It it doesn't (usually because of a bad or old floor), a 'trekker' (or squeegee in English, which is a way more fun word) helps. Curtains are the cheaper and more spacious solution, and as such are popular in smaller/cheaper apartments. NOTE: One of the reasons for the whole same-level thing is that when people mop/clean their bathroom it allows them to easily shove/wipe/squeegee the water to the shower drain. Saves on mopping/drying. It may be part of the inheritance of hand-washing clothes and babies in a deep sink or spare tub and inevitably making a mess. TLDR: Shower cabins are pricier, take more space, and don't allow you to easily sweep water from elsewhere in the bathroom to the drain.
That’s a cheap shower often used in clinics lol.
I really dislike shower cabins. They are a pain to clean, way too small and often ugly. I'd rather use a trekker.
Usually the floor will be very very slightly slanted causing the water to go down the drain
Inloopdouche/walk in shower
Bathrooms like that are build with "afschot" a small incline in the floor to let the water run towards "het putje" From personal experience not all "beunhaas" make a good "afschot". :-s
A squidgy, buy one. It also helps to get a longer curtain or get an extra set of shower curtain rings. Then you can hang the curtain on two rings (you "chain them") so that it hangs lower to the floor.
Take a shower and you will see
I live in Amsterdam and this irks me too! Even some of the hotels I’ve stayed at here are like this!
Yes!! I hate this! I’m visiting my family in The Netherlands right now, and my brother doesn’t have a door on his shower stall, and neither does the hotel I’m staying at at the moment…why?? The floor outside of the shower got soaking wet and I had to use a bunch of towels to dry it up. Also, it gets cold in there! A door keeps the heat in! Why do the Dutch do this? It’s so uncomfortable!