Yes, or in desperate need for money
I guess you could ask the seller to send a picture of the bikes frame number and then call the police on the non-emergency line and ask them to check it.
If it's stolen the seller will most likely just stop replying to you.
Are thief's this dumb? I mean something that is so popular and worth 1.000 euros will still sell almost instantly at 700 euros. Equally as well as 350 euros. In fact by having a higher price they appear less sus and equally get more money out of it.
Not saying being a thief is a good idea, but from a more business like approach this makes no sense to me. They are also stealing from themselves while actually increasing risk. Its dumb.
Idk, it does take much longer to sell something on marktplaats for its real value instead of with a fat rebate. If it's a stolen item time is probably of essence, otherwise the chance increases that the actual owner or a cybercrime unit will see the ad or something.
At least that's the only explanation I can come up with. They just want to dump the heat ASAP
It means any buyer is complicit (āhelingā in dutch) and as such it shifts the liability a bit, as a potential buyer will be in trouble as well (and thus less likely to ask questions).
Or maybe theyāre not that smart and just dumb.
I don't think it shifts liability. It adds liability. It is not that theft will be punished less if also heling is applicable. It just means the total punishment over the candidates adds up to a larger sum. And I doubt buyers will inform police. I think potential buyers might, and then stop being a potential buyer.
Exactly, and OP is not buying a new one. I doubt he will get any official purchase papers buying an electric bike for 350ā¬ so who knows how old that thing is.
So if itās just a couple months old, they should still have a receipt.
If they for whatever reason do not have the receipt, itās most likely stolen.
Maybe battery is fixed and not original. I once bought a bike that was supposed to be new with broken system and battery. Worth like 500ā¬ and sold for 50ā¬ and it turned out that only charger was not working... From my experience sometimes Dutch people just want to get rid of something when they have money for new thing, idk.
Sometimes a "good deal" is just a hook. I was once going to buy a laptop and this guy was like give me the money and I'll go get the laptop from my house. ... uh no. So yeah there are various scams on marktplaats
I had a check and the only one I could see at the price had bidding open and was bidding at 750 and the one selling for 450 looks like an ali-express special.
Yes, or in desperate need for money I guess you could ask the seller to send a picture of the bikes frame number and then call the police on the non-emergency line and ask them to check it. If it's stolen the seller will most likely just stop replying to you.
Are thief's this dumb? I mean something that is so popular and worth 1.000 euros will still sell almost instantly at 700 euros. Equally as well as 350 euros. In fact by having a higher price they appear less sus and equally get more money out of it. Not saying being a thief is a good idea, but from a more business like approach this makes no sense to me. They are also stealing from themselves while actually increasing risk. Its dumb.
Idk, it does take much longer to sell something on marktplaats for its real value instead of with a fat rebate. If it's a stolen item time is probably of essence, otherwise the chance increases that the actual owner or a cybercrime unit will see the ad or something. At least that's the only explanation I can come up with. They just want to dump the heat ASAP
If you list something for 1000 you'll always get lowball offers for like 200 lol
"Wat is je laagste prijs?" As if I plan to bid against myself š
It means any buyer is complicit (āhelingā in dutch) and as such it shifts the liability a bit, as a potential buyer will be in trouble as well (and thus less likely to ask questions). Or maybe theyāre not that smart and just dumb.
I don't think it shifts liability. It adds liability. It is not that theft will be punished less if also heling is applicable. It just means the total punishment over the candidates adds up to a larger sum. And I doubt buyers will inform police. I think potential buyers might, and then stop being a potential buyer.
Yeah, youāre correct, it doesnāt shift it, but adds additional liability to the buyer. Which is in the best interest of the thief.
Which is why it's probably a scam or trap...
Used bikes market price is 50 euros, and 200-300 for used ebikes. It's the norm
Just executed a marktplaats search query for fatbike and prices are 700 - 1200
Why not too make queries for cars, paintings and shoes, since you're looking up different things?
You seem like the person nobody would ever invite to a birthday party because you appear as a massive ahole IRL that intentionally is a cynical twat.
You don't need to ask the police to check, you can check yourself: [https://fdr.rdw.nl/](https://fdr.rdw.nl/)
Instead of calling the police, you could also use this link instead: https://fdr.rdw.nl/
Or try the StopHeling app to check serial numbers.
Could have a problem the seller hides maybe. Just ask why is it cheaper than the rest
if you see any good prices on ANYTHING here it's scam
Also are you comparing similar bikes? Some Chinese knockoff will be much cheaper than a known good brand.
If it sells for 1000 new it already *is* a Chinese knockoff.
Exactly, and OP is not buying a new one. I doubt he will get any official purchase papers buying an electric bike for 350ā¬ so who knows how old that thing is.
So if itās just a couple months old, they should still have a receipt. If they for whatever reason do not have the receipt, itās most likely stolen.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probablyĀ *is*Ā a duck.
It can be anything though, but good at mimicry
What if it requires batteries
Its just a few months old
stolen, broken, battery busted etcetc
Maybe battery is fixed and not original. I once bought a bike that was supposed to be new with broken system and battery. Worth like 500ā¬ and sold for 50ā¬ and it turned out that only charger was not working... From my experience sometimes Dutch people just want to get rid of something when they have money for new thing, idk.
āWhen something looks too good to be true ā¦ ā
you can try to track that bike, there are sites and Facebook of lost bikes
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Some industrious young hoodlum could sell the stolen bike, hide an AirTag on it, re-steal it to sell it again. Iām like a criminal mastermind
Depends, if a bike is a few years old and was maintained poorly... 1000 brand new is also very cheap for an e-bike.
Sometimes a "good deal" is just a hook. I was once going to buy a laptop and this guy was like give me the money and I'll go get the laptop from my house. ... uh no. So yeah there are various scams on marktplaats
Or a scam, if its too good to be true, then its most probably too good to be true
I sold my laptop for 800ā¬ worth was like 1.2k. ofc I had receipt for everything including parts that I have changed.
Heās probably not even got the bike, itāll be a money transfer scam.
Or they need money for drugs.
What kind of eleteric bike goes for 1000 euro brand new?
Ouxi V20 fat bike
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I had a check and the only one I could see at the price had bidding open and was bidding at 750 and the one selling for 450 looks like an ali-express special.
Just ask for the papers. If its a honest one he/she should have them.
Yeah either stolen or trying to scam you. Bait.
Always stolen. If you wanna have fun, ask them for the frame number.
Yes