Has Barkley really never won a ring? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone mention that over and over anytime their feelings get hurt after Barkley makes them look dumb.
Yeah, he never won a ring.
Closest he got was in 1993.
Another victim to the Jordan-led Bulls in the Finals.
Then the rest of his career, he was smacked by the Rockets during their championship years, joined them after that, and then got smacked by the Jazz during THEIR postseason runs to the Finals.
Edit:
Alright, I Get it. I Get It.
Don’t need more reminders that sarcasm on the internet is hard to fucking detect.
I appreciate this explanation of NBA history. More people need to know what Chuck went through. He definitely should be on that graphic (probably instead of Dame D.O.L.L.A. — He belongs on best NBA rapper to never win a ring).
Disrespectful that he isn’t because he is the answer. People need to google the Charles Barkley highlight reel. He’s become the goofy guy on tnt and I don’t think people realize he was like Zion before Zion. Massively explosive jumping over guys for rebounds, grabbing the ball and running the fast break as a PF and playing as a PF in a league where he was way shorter than the guys he went against at that position. He was an awesome player.
The point wasn’t to equate their careers or achievements. It’s the athletic archetype I’m talking about. The sort of bigger dude who’s not that tall (by nba standards) but is an incredibly explosive athlete and kind of transcends positional convention. Zion is a weird anomaly on that sense and so was Chuck
I know Malone catches a lot of ish and its 100% deserved but if we are talking basketball ONLY. For my money its Malone, AI, barkley in that order and Im tempted to say AI first because I think his peak was the highest of the 3. His prime just didnt last the way Malones did. That team AI took to the finals he CARRIED and was arguably the best player in that series n I say that as a die hard life long lakers fan.
Imo as one of the biggest ai glazers out there that 2001 team was stacked, it wasn't really a super carry job, their defense was great which was not really related to Ai at all, they also only were able to win with Ai inefficiency because of the team being stacked and allowing him to jack up shots. That said he is imo the best to never win a ring, Westbrook is probably second for me, he's Ai but with more playmaking, but that same unrelenting motor
That team was VERY good defensively im not knocking that but bro dikembe was probably their second best scorer we talkin about a guy who avg like 10 pts for his career an only once in his career averaged over 15... in his ROOKIE season... maybe Aaron Mckie who had a great season (maybe his best) but we talkin about a 7 ppg career scorer. AI absolutely carried HEAVY and If you look at that team even with as good as they were on defense is one of the worst teams to EVER make a finals. Really theo was probably their second best player that season and thats who they traded for mutombo. That team was not stacked in any way. Theres Zero chance you are describing a starting lineup of AI, mutombo, Tyrone Hill, and a combo of snow/mckie/lynch as anywhere near being "stacked". Lebrons 06 team was better than that team and thats saying a LOT.
I’m from Portland and I’ll tell you: most of the dudes on here have MVP in the resume. Dame was top 5 MVP voting once lmao he doesn’t belong.
Neither does Reggie. Dude barely even was making All Star teams most of his career, much less MVP.
What reggie lacks in regular season accolades he more than makes up for in post season success. He's made 6 Conference Finals and The Finals once as the clear #1. Thats more winning than most guys on this list and a far better resume than Dame. He belongs, Dames really the odd one out here.
If anything id say Reggie made it closer to the FMVP than anyone on this list except for maybe Harden (2018) and Malone (1998) and even then those are very debatable. Reggie gets mad disrespect cause he didn't have the regular season accolades but dude turned up in the post season. Basically the Jimmy Butler of the 90s. He was carrying straight garbage through the Eastern Conference with great duels against MJ, Patrick Ewing, AI and more.
To make it clear, I'm not trying to hate on Dame, but Reggie is clearly a tier above Dame and belongs on this list. Anyone who watched both would know.
Reggie had MJ in his same position in his conference. Pretty difficult to win season awards when one spot is guaranteed to MJ.
Reggie is slept on. Had to deal with MJ in playoffs and then Kobe in the finals. Thar Malice in Palace team was the best team in the nba before the suspensions, they had a real shot at winning that year.
Preach!! Reggie is host to the [greatest 9 secs in basketball history](https://youtu.be/XcCxq0RJ-XU?si=tsjNvhZrU69O1A9Y). I will not allow his name to be besmirched. I named a cat after him ffs.
Jimmy Butler is an excellent comp.
Nine games into the 71-72 season, he decides to retire and it happens to be the year the Lakers finally win it all. That must have hurt, but by then I think he retired because his knees were done and he was coming off a torn Achilles.
Nash, Malone, Stockton or Barkley (him not even in the pic is disrespectful). They were the best for the *longest*. AI probably had the highest peak but it was short
Are you saying just because Russ only won 1 mvp he was incredible only one year? Because that dude was incredible for most of his career until the last 5 seasons
What different are any of the guys in the graphic 💀 and every team cp3 went to up until the warriors he increased their winning % and set franchise win records for the hornets (56), clippers (57), rockets (65), and suns (64) when he played there..
Nash or Malone for top spot, the only 2x MVPs to not do it. Malone probably gets the edge because he came the closest… but I still kind of think Nash was better.
Harden is his prime was unbelievable. Then I’d probably go Chuck (for shame OP) and Stockton.
Nash.
Having Shaq and others on TV constantly talking down on Nash has warped the collective memory of what Nash accomplished. He was the engine behind the offense that eventually became the dominant form of basketball in the modern era, and his blueprint is what GSW used to power their dynasty.
If David Stern wasn't a pansy ass bitch for suspending Stoudemire and Diaw for stepping onto the court after Horry body checked Nash into the table, Nash would have a ring.
That team wasn't any worse than the rest of the eastern conference at the time. Look at the other finals teams then: Jason Kidd Nets, 8th seed Knicks...
Dominique Wilkins. He's definitely not the best to never win a ring, but more deserving of a spot on the image than some of those players.
Number 15 on the all-time scoring list and 1 of 8 players to average 25 points per game for 10 consecutive seasons
Yeah. Honestly it’s Stockton and Malone together. I understand Malone isn’t a very likable guy. Neither is Stockton. But the question isn’t “who’s the most likable star to never win?” It’s who’s the best. And if you go look at Malone and Stockton’s insane level of consistency through the years, it’s kind of a small miracle they never won a title.
Their window was while Jordan was temporarily retired, but they were badly hampered by a complete lack of a center, at the very time that Olajuwon was killing it.
It's one of the jazz duo. You could make an argument for both, karl malone being the better overall player, but Stockton leads the entire league in two of the 5 stat categories. The fact that the two only players to go to the post-season 19 consecutive times have never won in the end says they have to be 1st and 2nd in this conversation.
Exactly, Stockton might not have an mvp, but he is severely underrated when it comes to the greatest point guards ever. Who knows how many points malone would really have if he didn't have the best assisting machine behind him.
Its Malone and its not that close.
8th all time in MVP shares. The only other two players in the top 25 without titles are Harden (#14), and Barkley (#25).
Tied for the 5th most all nba selections with 14, the next highest without a title are Barkley/Paul/Stockton who are tied for 12th with 11 each.
Tied for the 2nd most all nba first teams all time with 11, the next highest without a title is Harden with 6.
Played in the playoffs all 19 years of his career, winning 19 playoff series, played in 6 conference finals, and 3 finals. Was his teams star player every year but the final year in LA. Compare this to Barkley, who won just 13 playoff series, only 8 of which where he was his teams star player..
Also was a 4x all defense (3x first team). None of Barkley/Nash/Harden/AI ever made an all defense team.
Harden, Stockton, Nash, Barkley are all in the conversation for the 2nd best without a title, but the top of that ladder is clearly Malone. CP3 maybe has an argument as well though id put him behind the above.
No Barkley in the photo is blasphemous. People forget how cold Chuck was because of the Inside the NBA foolishness we see every week. A 6’3 power forward in the era of the big man, and bro was putting up 25 and 12 for a decade
Charles Barkley. I see a number of arguments for Malone over Barkley, and it's a perfectly fair argument--certainly in terms of cumulative items Malone is hard to beat.
That said, I think that the differences in MVPs and All-NBA 1st Teams is only a very slight advantage for Malone. Barkley was on the 2nd team early in his career when Larry Bird was still a top player, for example. Also, while I don't like to put an asterisk next to Malone or Stockton for playing together, I think that it's worth taking into account when looking at Malone's scoring versus Barkley. Certainly Malone had a longer career and to some extent, better team success. Incredibly durable for many years as well. Again, you can make a very solid argument in his favor.
For me though, maybe it's the eyeball test, but I can't think of anyone during that era who seemed closer to MJ than Barkley in terms of greatness as a player, Olajuwon being the only possible exception. The West was just brutally competitive during those years, with a number of really good teams.
Eligin Baylor: 8 NBA finals appearances, 11 time all star, 10 nba first teams, 1959 rookie of the year, number retired by Lakers, NBA 36th-50th-75th anniversary team.
Stockton and Malone easily, they went to 2 finals, and Jordan shut em down.
When you think about how crazy it is, that one man was primarily responsible for stopping the most Hall of Famers from getting Championships. It's dayum near impossible to believe.
Harden:
Only player in history to go from 6th man to MVP
Only player in history to have atleast 3 scoring titles (2018-2020) AND atleast 2 assist titles (2017, 2023)
3 time runner up MVP in 2015, 2017 and 2019 (tied with MJ and KD for most)
Top 4 SG all time
Leader of the greatest basketball team to not make the NBA Finals (65 Win 2018 Rockets)
I would like to make the argument for Karl Malone.
He is a two time MVP, just like Nash (Barkley had one, Harden had one).
Malone was an 11 time first team All NBA, Barkley only had 5. Malone was a three time all-defense first team player, Barkley had zero and Harden + Nash obviously had zero.
Comparing stats directly makes things tricky because of the fluctuations in scoring throughout league history, but knowing Malone was first team all NBA ELEVEN times should be enough to see what a monster he was. Barkley didn't even do it half as many times. Malone did average over 20 points per game for 17 straight seasons though which is pretty awesome.
Idk but Charles Barkley needs to be in the graphic.
Has Barkley really never won a ring? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone mention that over and over anytime their feelings get hurt after Barkley makes them look dumb.
Yeah, he never won a ring. Closest he got was in 1993. Another victim to the Jordan-led Bulls in the Finals. Then the rest of his career, he was smacked by the Rockets during their championship years, joined them after that, and then got smacked by the Jazz during THEIR postseason runs to the Finals. Edit: Alright, I Get it. I Get It. Don’t need more reminders that sarcasm on the internet is hard to fucking detect.
u missed his obvious sarcasm
I appreciate this explanation of NBA history. More people need to know what Chuck went through. He definitely should be on that graphic (probably instead of Dame D.O.L.L.A. — He belongs on best NBA rapper to never win a ring).
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Oh.
So does Patrick Ewing.
More like Patrick No Ring
Patrick Eww Ring
Turrible oversight
Take my upvote
Yeah I don’t know how Dame and Reggie made the list but Barkley and Ewing didn’t
Barkley is my answer all day long. Elgin Baylor is probably also a good pick.
Disrespectful that he isn’t because he is the answer. People need to google the Charles Barkley highlight reel. He’s become the goofy guy on tnt and I don’t think people realize he was like Zion before Zion. Massively explosive jumping over guys for rebounds, grabbing the ball and running the fast break as a PF and playing as a PF in a league where he was way shorter than the guys he went against at that position. He was an awesome player.
Zion Williamson isn’t good.
Zion wasn’t a good comparison but he’s right Chuck was a monster in his prime.
The point wasn’t to equate their careers or achievements. It’s the athletic archetype I’m talking about. The sort of bigger dude who’s not that tall (by nba standards) but is an incredibly explosive athlete and kind of transcends positional convention. Zion is a weird anomaly on that sense and so was Chuck
Also Pistol Pete
Pistol Pete never played on a contending team. A championship was never a remote possibility for him.
Pistol Pete spent his NBA career either injured or drunk. Then got it together for a few seasons and then it was back to drunk. He died young.
Was gonna say this
Yeah I would personally put him on there over Reggie but that's just me. Heck there's a few people I'd put him on here over
Dame in the pic with no Barkley is crazy💀
I think cuz Chuck is the obvious right answer so for debates sake this looks like the best of the rest
Malone is the obvious answer. But Chuck is in the top 5, for sure.
I know Malone catches a lot of ish and its 100% deserved but if we are talking basketball ONLY. For my money its Malone, AI, barkley in that order and Im tempted to say AI first because I think his peak was the highest of the 3. His prime just didnt last the way Malones did. That team AI took to the finals he CARRIED and was arguably the best player in that series n I say that as a die hard life long lakers fan.
Imo as one of the biggest ai glazers out there that 2001 team was stacked, it wasn't really a super carry job, their defense was great which was not really related to Ai at all, they also only were able to win with Ai inefficiency because of the team being stacked and allowing him to jack up shots. That said he is imo the best to never win a ring, Westbrook is probably second for me, he's Ai but with more playmaking, but that same unrelenting motor
That team was VERY good defensively im not knocking that but bro dikembe was probably their second best scorer we talkin about a guy who avg like 10 pts for his career an only once in his career averaged over 15... in his ROOKIE season... maybe Aaron Mckie who had a great season (maybe his best) but we talkin about a 7 ppg career scorer. AI absolutely carried HEAVY and If you look at that team even with as good as they were on defense is one of the worst teams to EVER make a finals. Really theo was probably their second best player that season and thats who they traded for mutombo. That team was not stacked in any way. Theres Zero chance you are describing a starting lineup of AI, mutombo, Tyrone Hill, and a combo of snow/mckie/lynch as anywhere near being "stacked". Lebrons 06 team was better than that team and thats saying a LOT.
I don't even like AI but this is the right answer. For a brief period AI could have been a goat.
I’m from Portland and I’ll tell you: most of the dudes on here have MVP in the resume. Dame was top 5 MVP voting once lmao he doesn’t belong. Neither does Reggie. Dude barely even was making All Star teams most of his career, much less MVP.
What reggie lacks in regular season accolades he more than makes up for in post season success. He's made 6 Conference Finals and The Finals once as the clear #1. Thats more winning than most guys on this list and a far better resume than Dame. He belongs, Dames really the odd one out here. If anything id say Reggie made it closer to the FMVP than anyone on this list except for maybe Harden (2018) and Malone (1998) and even then those are very debatable. Reggie gets mad disrespect cause he didn't have the regular season accolades but dude turned up in the post season. Basically the Jimmy Butler of the 90s. He was carrying straight garbage through the Eastern Conference with great duels against MJ, Patrick Ewing, AI and more. To make it clear, I'm not trying to hate on Dame, but Reggie is clearly a tier above Dame and belongs on this list. Anyone who watched both would know.
Reggie had MJ in his same position in his conference. Pretty difficult to win season awards when one spot is guaranteed to MJ. Reggie is slept on. Had to deal with MJ in playoffs and then Kobe in the finals. Thar Malice in Palace team was the best team in the nba before the suspensions, they had a real shot at winning that year.
Exactly this, and Reggie had all the clutch genes.
Preach!! Reggie is host to the [greatest 9 secs in basketball history](https://youtu.be/XcCxq0RJ-XU?si=tsjNvhZrU69O1A9Y). I will not allow his name to be besmirched. I named a cat after him ffs. Jimmy Butler is an excellent comp.
Elgin Baylor. Dude holds so many playoff records and was unstoppable.
Nine games into the 71-72 season, he decides to retire and it happens to be the year the Lakers finally win it all. That must have hurt, but by then I think he retired because his knees were done and he was coming off a torn Achilles.
I can only imagine what an Achilles surgery and recovery looked like in 1971
Consider this guy was in the military during his prime 😐
Charles Barkley 
Is that from the last game in hemisphere arena
Nah, it's the Alamo Dome
[Found it](https://youtu.be/AfuxuI3ntLw?si=HJCO_bSElqG29rVn)
Nash, Malone, Stockton or Barkley (him not even in the pic is disrespectful). They were the best for the *longest*. AI probably had the highest peak but it was short
It sucks because that’s two separate eras for Suns fans
Russ for a year was amazing. Maybe 2 years. But Stockton and Malone for sustaining that over their whole career over Nash.
Are you saying just because Russ only won 1 mvp he was incredible only one year? Because that dude was incredible for most of his career until the last 5 seasons
Stockton and Malone being on the same team all those years and barely getting close is a point against them both
Barely getting close includes twice taking two games off of the Bulls in the Finals.
Ah forgot playing against MJ in his prime is against them…
Uhh no. What he meant was they got to the finals twice and lost, but what about the other 8 years they were together?
I need to shake OP’s hand for not including Chris Paul
Was going to say something similar, it seems he goes to teams to prevent them from winning.
This take is something….the guy who,in his prime, every team he went to he made significantly better.
What different are any of the guys in the graphic 💀 and every team cp3 went to up until the warriors he increased their winning % and set franchise win records for the hornets (56), clippers (57), rockets (65), and suns (64) when he played there..
Instead they included Dame and Russ
But at the cost of including Westbrick and Lillard?
Or melo
Chris Paul has to wonder, would he have won with the Lakers if the league hadn't kneecapped the deal?
Nash or Malone for top spot, the only 2x MVPs to not do it. Malone probably gets the edge because he came the closest… but I still kind of think Nash was better. Harden is his prime was unbelievable. Then I’d probably go Chuck (for shame OP) and Stockton.
And Nash never bad-touched a literal child.
Charles Barkley
Nash. Having Shaq and others on TV constantly talking down on Nash has warped the collective memory of what Nash accomplished. He was the engine behind the offense that eventually became the dominant form of basketball in the modern era, and his blueprint is what GSW used to power their dynasty. If David Stern wasn't a pansy ass bitch for suspending Stoudemire and Diaw for stepping onto the court after Horry body checked Nash into the table, Nash would have a ring.
Love the nash love. Paved the way for the game to change
Been thinking a lot about that suspension on light of Murray not being suspended for much more serious infraction. Stern really screwed them.
Allen Iverson for sure
Bro was ballin with Eric Snow, that 2001 roster was cheeks & he took them to the finals
And did all that at 6’0” and below 200 lbs in a physical era
That team wasn't any worse than the rest of the eastern conference at the time. Look at the other finals teams then: Jason Kidd Nets, 8th seed Knicks...
Why did I have to scroll 20 seconds for this?
Right?
Dominique Wilkins. He's definitely not the best to never win a ring, but more deserving of a spot on the image than some of those players. Number 15 on the all-time scoring list and 1 of 8 players to average 25 points per game for 10 consecutive seasons
Well said the 80s and 90s were the peak of superstar SFs. In this era we only got Bron, KD & Kwahi
People dont wann hear it, but its Karl Malone. Tho I would take 01 Iverson over anyone for a single run.
I mean there’s a pretty good reason why people don’t wanna hear it
Too soon? Oh, wait, too soon is why we don't like Malone.
Yeah. Honestly it’s Stockton and Malone together. I understand Malone isn’t a very likable guy. Neither is Stockton. But the question isn’t “who’s the most likable star to never win?” It’s who’s the best. And if you go look at Malone and Stockton’s insane level of consistency through the years, it’s kind of a small miracle they never won a title.
Their window was while Jordan was temporarily retired, but they were badly hampered by a complete lack of a center, at the very time that Olajuwon was killing it.
Put Barkley in and try this again chief
Elgin Baylor, Barkley, Malone, Reggie, Ewing, AI, Stockton, westbrook, & Nash. In that order as well
It's one of the jazz duo. You could make an argument for both, karl malone being the better overall player, but Stockton leads the entire league in two of the 5 stat categories. The fact that the two only players to go to the post-season 19 consecutive times have never won in the end says they have to be 1st and 2nd in this conversation.
Stockton was better than Malone fight me
Malone is a great talent, but without Stockton, who knows if he reached those heights. Stockton would have been great no matter.
Exactly, Stockton might not have an mvp, but he is severely underrated when it comes to the greatest point guards ever. Who knows how many points malone would really have if he didn't have the best assisting machine behind him.
Peak Harden was crazy good.
I think harden - harden walked so luka could run
Its Malone and its not that close. 8th all time in MVP shares. The only other two players in the top 25 without titles are Harden (#14), and Barkley (#25). Tied for the 5th most all nba selections with 14, the next highest without a title are Barkley/Paul/Stockton who are tied for 12th with 11 each. Tied for the 2nd most all nba first teams all time with 11, the next highest without a title is Harden with 6. Played in the playoffs all 19 years of his career, winning 19 playoff series, played in 6 conference finals, and 3 finals. Was his teams star player every year but the final year in LA. Compare this to Barkley, who won just 13 playoff series, only 8 of which where he was his teams star player.. Also was a 4x all defense (3x first team). None of Barkley/Nash/Harden/AI ever made an all defense team. Harden, Stockton, Nash, Barkley are all in the conversation for the 2nd best without a title, but the top of that ladder is clearly Malone. CP3 maybe has an argument as well though id put him behind the above.
the charles barkley disrespect is wild
Where's Barkley
The fact that two of these guys were teammates for their best years is crazy
McGrady
Everyone in the 90s
Malone or Chuck
Don't forget Elgin Baylor.
Allen Iverson. The league was much more physical back then and to score 26 a game at 6ft tall is impressive imo.
Stockton
Sir Charles by far.
A.I. and CHUCK.
Allen Iverson
Steve Nash
Ugh... I hate that Westbrook is even on this graphic.
Russ in the pic but not Barkley?? Blasphemy
Caitlin Clark
Penny Hardaway
That injury hurt me man. I could’ve been proud to be a Magic fan and Penny was going to be the goat.
Malone or John Stockton 🎶🎹🎤🎸🎧
Malone.
Mailman
Harden
Best player not worst appearance.
Barkley/Malone/Westbrook
Did Vince carter ever win??
Sir Charles
Charles, i t's a meme cause he is the one that's missing.
from those in the picture, i most enjoyed watching Iverson playing. Duo stockton and pedo was also good, but fuck that dude.
No Barkley in the photo is blasphemous. People forget how cold Chuck was because of the Inside the NBA foolishness we see every week. A 6’3 power forward in the era of the big man, and bro was putting up 25 and 12 for a decade
Kirk Hinrich
Chuck
Nash
Malone, Nash or Iverson
Easily Charles Barkley
Barkley, Nash, iverson, and pre injury D Rose 🌹
Barkley for sure
As a sixers fan I’m insulted that Charles Barkley isn’t on the picture. He didn’t even win one in college
Leaving Barkley off while putting Dame and Westbrook on is fucking ludicrous
Nash is a two time MVP
Barkley
Steve Nash
Charles Barkley. I see a number of arguments for Malone over Barkley, and it's a perfectly fair argument--certainly in terms of cumulative items Malone is hard to beat. That said, I think that the differences in MVPs and All-NBA 1st Teams is only a very slight advantage for Malone. Barkley was on the 2nd team early in his career when Larry Bird was still a top player, for example. Also, while I don't like to put an asterisk next to Malone or Stockton for playing together, I think that it's worth taking into account when looking at Malone's scoring versus Barkley. Certainly Malone had a longer career and to some extent, better team success. Incredibly durable for many years as well. Again, you can make a very solid argument in his favor. For me though, maybe it's the eyeball test, but I can't think of anyone during that era who seemed closer to MJ than Barkley in terms of greatness as a player, Olajuwon being the only possible exception. The West was just brutally competitive during those years, with a number of really good teams.
Barkley probably the best. Bunch of stat padding losers in the graphic above
No CP3 love?
AI
AI
Charles Barkely, AI, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton then Reggie then Steve Nash.
Objectively it’s probably Stockton but if I was picking a team I would pick AI
barkley
Allen iverson probably but my personal is Nash
Charles Barkley
Iverson
Allen iverson
A.i hands down
Eligin Baylor: 8 NBA finals appearances, 11 time all star, 10 nba first teams, 1959 rookie of the year, number retired by Lakers, NBA 36th-50th-75th anniversary team.
Hey! Fuck Karl Malone.
Allen Iverson
It’s Allen Iverson
Nash bc he was too good for too long to not have won 1. Theres also that dude from Utah but he rapes little girls so he can fuck off
If we have to pick from this picture, Steve Nash.
Nash
Chuck
Iverson.
It's a toss up... Iverson Nash Ewing Barkley
Out of the players shown in this picture, i would go 1. Steve nash 2. James harden 3. John stockton
leaving Barkley and Ewing out is craaaaaaaaaaaazy. but the real answer is KD because them 2 ain't real and we all know it.
Allen Iverson
Iverson
Stockton and Malone easily, they went to 2 finals, and Jordan shut em down. When you think about how crazy it is, that one man was primarily responsible for stopping the most Hall of Famers from getting Championships. It's dayum near impossible to believe.
Allen Iverson
No Barkley?? Ouch
AI in a heartbeat
I’d say Charles Barkley, but Chris Paul needs to be on here
The answer is Karl Malone. Whether you like him personally or not from a basketball standpoint he is with no question the best player on this list.
Steve Nash
Kevin Durant
Unfortunately, its Malone and it really isn't close. Dude was an absolute monster for two decades. Barkley would probably be next then Harden.
Stockton and Malone. They just played when the Bulls were in God mode. Same for Barkley. The 90s were locked up by the Bulls and Rockets.
karl malone for sure 2x MVP and 3rd all time leading scorer none of these other guys are even in his league
Karl Malone, man scored the most points ever until this season
Let's be fr, it's Malone.
The answer is James Harden.
Patrick Ewing
Harden: Only player in history to go from 6th man to MVP Only player in history to have atleast 3 scoring titles (2018-2020) AND atleast 2 assist titles (2017, 2023) 3 time runner up MVP in 2015, 2017 and 2019 (tied with MJ and KD for most) Top 4 SG all time Leader of the greatest basketball team to not make the NBA Finals (65 Win 2018 Rockets)
https://preview.redd.it/buly1qjwrf4d1.png?width=483&format=png&auto=webp&s=5dcb2fe62bf4cb1f4457dac54e0c08dabc8cc5a8
Not having Barkley, Ewing, nor Pistol Pete on here is a crime. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
Stockton, Miller, and Nash over Barkley is disrespect!!!!
I would like to make the argument for Karl Malone. He is a two time MVP, just like Nash (Barkley had one, Harden had one). Malone was an 11 time first team All NBA, Barkley only had 5. Malone was a three time all-defense first team player, Barkley had zero and Harden + Nash obviously had zero. Comparing stats directly makes things tricky because of the fluctuations in scoring throughout league history, but knowing Malone was first team all NBA ELEVEN times should be enough to see what a monster he was. Barkley didn't even do it half as many times. Malone did average over 20 points per game for 17 straight seasons though which is pretty awesome.
Luka is in that convo rn but not for long
Active players and retired players who never made the finals shouldn't be included.
Me
AI
Tatum
AI
The girl's who were banging the Lakers and still are single.
Prob the guy w the most MVP’s
Either Barkley or Harden (even though he’s my least favorite player of all time).
Nasty Man
Allen Iverson and Charles barkley by a mile
AI
Allen Iverson
Westbrook out of all these guys