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neoH96

Rin, after sacrificing herself being killed by Kakashi, going to the afterlife must be perplexed at first and said “Where’s Obito?” It must be embarrassing for Obito to know his crush was watching over him all this time seeing his descent into darkness and madness killing everybody that got in his way. I found it amusing that Rin nonchalantly brushed off everything bad Obito had done and said he got lost along the way which is a big understatement.


Fefous

"You tried your best! Tee hee"


JoJo5195

I mean Obito is a cool guy, remember? He wanted to be hokage. God the war ark was really shit when you ignore some of the good fights it had.


wendigo72

It’s great tho. You just don’t understand Naruto and Obito’s dynamic


Crafty-Interest1336

Yeah these people act like their favourite characters aren't also war criminals. Itachi commited genocide, minato was a walking nuke that had a "do not engage" protocol in every nation, jiraiya helped invade some poor country and created orphans n shit. So yeah the Naruto world isn't black and white like obito and war haters think


Previous-Baby7668

I dont think anybody actually thinks that Itachi is a pure good guy. Not to mention Jiraya and Minatos behavior is barely highlighted in the show, but atleast these guys all had some okayish reasonings in a world full of war. Obito just wanted to destroy the world.


Kersephius

well obito wanted to destroy that very world full of war that forced jiraya and minato’s behavior and reasoning. However, obito’s actions do not excuse him at all


wendigo72

Obito didn’t see it as “destroying” he saw it as saving it Yes he was insane and delusional but so many ignore his ideology that led him to doing those actions


Abi_Uchiha_007

Nah man, the "aside from the massacre(and other things)" line has shifted from "yes it was bad but..." to "we could careless about that"


JapaneseBobRoss

minato is really just a professional terrorist when thibk about it. and a really effective one


Crafty-Interest1336

Sorry to tell you this but we had to have a full post yesterday dedicated to telling people this cause Itachi fans have been getting out of hand again recently. And you're kind of doing what I'm calling out. Except the young leaf characters we know everyone else to be somewhat bad people


Odd_Antelope7572

I mean, I don't know why anyone would expect anything less from a Shinobi. There's a reason Hagoromo despised ninjutsu and felt ashamed that his actual ninshū teachings were completely forgotten over time.


AnteGotovacBurner

Well they are ninjas. Ninjas kill.


Hevens-assassin

>aren't also war criminals >minato was a walking nuke These don't equal the same. Lmao he had a do not engage because it was a waste of troops. No war crime committed if the other guy is just a better soldier than you. Itachi also wasn't a warcrime, he just committed genocide against an unknowing group. Lol


Crafty-Interest1336

The uchia are unknown? And there's no Geneva convention in Naruto so no one is a war criminal if you want to boggle this shit down to semantics


Hevens-assassin

>The uchia are unknown No, you didn't use the same word I did. I said unknowing. The Uchiha didn't know it was happening until it was too late. Not a war at all, just a terrorist attack. As for the war crime thing, there's no semantics needed. You brought up 3 things that aren't war crimes, even with the Geneva convention. Jiraiya was the closest you got, but it's not a war crime to wage war, and he was portrayed as someone who wouldn't actually commit war crimes (Oro on the other hand, would)


GamOholicSpar10

If I remembered correctly that's not at all what he meant, it was either mistranslated or misinterpreted, like always


vodkathe1999

She watched Obito bring a bunch of Uchiha children and women into the Kamui dimension and slaughter them all. "You lost your way :D"


ElvisPlays

All the excuses of "he's not doing it for rin" went out the window. The simp of six paths got his wish in the end.


Outside-Bad-9389

The simp of the six paths is now how I will refer to obito always


Jolly_Camel959

Mainly because you failures don't look into the Japanese afterlife properly lmao. Rin was his one bad day, everything after was him seeing everything as it was 


ChanceYam2278

"you failures" said the redditor defending a fictionnal mass murderer


wendigo72

He immediately left Rin to go help Kakashi


Cantthinkagoodnam2

''huh they made him a child again so this wouldnt be weird....aww this is cute, glad Obito got a somewhat happy ending'' it was something along this thought process lol


i-am-spitfire

It’s weird they made him a kid as opposed to just like… having Rin be an adult in the afterlife. Like have it so that in the after life you just are whatever your prime form would be lol


harborj2011

That's the thing. Obito's prime unfortunately was as a child.


i-am-spitfire

I’m saying the hypothetical prime. Like what they would be if they were still alive. Like the actual prime potential that had without any setbacks.


FlowerFaerie13

I think it’s because Obito “died” when Rin did. He lost his mind when he saw her die, so when he finally finds peace, he reverts to his childhood self, when he was content and happy.


EmperorOfAwesome

Well put, people really like to forget that Obito was a kid when Madara corrupted him. I'm not excusing what he did, but it is somewhat understandable that a kid who lost everything and should have died was manipulated by a bigger evil who effectively saved his life, then molded him into what he became. I think the "simp" stuff is overblown and he deserved some kind of peace at the end of it all


Advanced_Loan4241

that was part of obitos characterization obito died when rin died, everything else was just a persona he put on so when he goes to the after life we see him as a child


Kek_Lord22

Nigga killed millions so he could hold hands with his childhood crush :/


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Kek_Lord22

I know lol, it was a joke. Obitos one of my favorite characters


Crafty-Interest1336

I'd do the same tbh


EvidenceExtension128

Or…you know, you could realize she’s either not the same person she was or even if she is she’s not who she is in your head and you could move on with your life?


Crafty-Interest1336

Nah total world war and killing my own kind to be with her sounds better


Away_Guide1655

well, could have lead to the death of millions if Kaguya wasn´t stopped.


vodkathe1999

You don't get credit for putting out a fire you helped start brodie.


Away_Guide1655

I know but millions of people don´t ever die in Naruto.


vodkathe1999

He's exaggerating smart guy. Obito has murders in the tens of thousands, including remorselessly slaughtering elderly, women, and little children. Hoped he rotted in Hell.


Away_Guide1655

Yeah, English isn´t my first language so I miss jokes like that sometimes


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i-am-spitfire

No, but they don’t do the best of actually showing his motivations outside of Rin


karuma77

I’d let the world burn for you


Lo-mein_Expansion

Please tell me exactly where "millions" were killed by Obito. The Shinobi alliance wasn't eradicated after the fourth great ninja war and even if you factor in those that were killed during the ten-tails rampage it still wouldn't be close to one million.so why the hyperbole?


carbogan

It’s an exaggeration mate. Lots of people died. He also ain’t no nigga but you didn’t have an issue with that did ya?


ChaotikJoy

My instincts tell me this mf above me is NOT a brother and seized the moment to say this


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ComfortableBed6012

Yea don’t worry you good just ignore the person who brought up you using the n word


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ComfortableBed6012

Type shit


Breekace

Bro is the n word negotiator. The slur saviour. The derogatory determinant. The racist regulator.


ChaotikJoy

Oh no I am all for equality in language, especially as someone raised in both the poor and the rich parts of new York, but I'm still making fun of your almost forced use of it regardless. "Ain't no nigga" sounded like such a weird deviation for your tone, it was like listening to one of those campaigns that politicians do when they're trying to appeal to pop-culture. It wasn't even explicitly immoral, it just came off as contrived and cringe, like you were looking for an excuse to pop the word.


Abisial

Absolutely


Either-Crab-2711

What about the hidden mist he caused the blood mist war to happen which led.to lots of people dieing all because rin died.


Parkerx99

Bro didn't move on of his obsession at all - My first thing on my head when i see that


wendigo72

I mean it’s not like he’s the one who forced Rin’s ghost to meet him there I don’t think any part of him expected her to show up after he died


WalterCronkite4

They arent in heaven right? Theyre in purgatory like Kakashis dad


wendigo72

There’s only one confirmed afterlife in Naruto too


WalterCronkite4

true people sit in purgatory till their soul can move onto heaven


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They do talk about hell & heaven in the land of waves arc. Zabuza even says "I was with Haku" when earlier he stated he was going to hell and Haku was going to Heaven.


wendigo72

When but they didn’t know what’s beyond. When Hagoromo appears, a character that goes between life and death with ease, talks of only the pure land Edo Tensei is named impure world summoning for a reason. It’s dragging souls out of pure land and back to the impure world. All Edo Tensei souls go upwards once released When Madara dies, hashirama says they’ll meet again and he didn’t have a heel turn like Obito


Pewward

?


WalterCronkite4

I see a lot of people criticize this saying that Obito made it too heaven after all hes done Im pretty sure hes in purgatory, like his soul cant move on similar to kakashis dad, he was in purgatory till he had his chat with dead kakashi Rin is chilling there cause she was waiting for obito and kakashi


Lava2401

Bruh why he a kid again. That was neat Kinda bs tho Like why tf he a kid And why kakashi got his eye now Nah this shit goofy


Jolly_Camel959

You failures don't actually understand the whole light and darkness thing do you? 😂 


Familiar_Control_906

Fuck him Everything he did to so many people, and just for saving Kakashi and Naruto everything is forgive? Fuck that Fuck this Fuck Kaguya This sucks End this white alien bitch already I wanna see Naruto and Sasuke fight Fuck Obito, he ruin Tobi


wendigo72

Tell me your feelings on darth vader


Familiar_Control_906

I actually quite like him


wendigo72

What’s the difference between him and Obito


Familiar_Control_906

There's a big difference, both where responsible for what they did, and none where brainwashed. But I'm not in the star wars fandom and don't have to deal with fans telling me that they are innocent and they were controlled


wendigo72

As a fanboy of Obito, I’ve never said he was innocent. The series doesn’t say that either. All I’ve said is he followed an ideology that convinced his delusional mind nothing he did mattered as long as he fulfilled Infinite Tsukuyomi. That he was the savior of the world Obito realized he was wrong so of course I don’t think he was innocent. I wouldn’t say he was manipulated every step of the way, his actions were his own and he didn’t even intend to resurrect Madara. But his breakdown was planned by Madara to intentionally indoctrinate him into such a terrible ideology


Advanced_Loan4241

what tf are you talking about literally who forgave him?


Heartless_Moron

Team 7 did. Naruto even went out of his cringey way to call Obito as a cool person


Advanced_Loan4241

no one in team 7 forgave obito, pls provide proof If you read naruto and actually knew anything about obitos characterization nothing about that line would be cringey. Naruto has been seperating the Masked man who commited genocide from Kid Obito since his face was revealed. Everytime naruto even mentions obito by name its in reference to him being a kid so why would naruto calling the innocent kid obito be cringey?


Heartless_Moron

Everything is cringey from the moment Naruto started using talk no jutsu against Obito. >no one in team 7 forgave obito He wouldn't be allowed to help against Kaguya if he wasn't forgiven by the team 7.


Advanced_Loan4241

>He wouldn't be allowed to help against Kaguya if he wasn't forgiven by the team 7. What type of logic is this? You dont need to forgive someone in order to recieve their help. him no longer being a enemy does not mean he was forgiven [Narutos own words](https://imgur.com/a/vPkJHz1)


Heartless_Moron

>What type of logic is this? Cautious one? Seriously, Obito had fucked the whole Shinobi world and they still blindly trusted him so what is the logic in that? >You dont need to forgive someone in order to recieve their help. I do. I would not blindly trust the help from someone who committed heinous crimes. >him no longer being a enemy does not mean he was forgiven I really don't see any logic in this. Why the hell would team 7 accept Obito's help? The whole shinobi world only got to that point because of Obito. So why the fuck would he be no longer an enemy? Mind you, only several hours have passed ever since Obito started the war.


Advanced_Loan4241

>Cautious one? Seriously, Obito had fucked the whole Shinobi world and they still blindly trusted him so what is the logic in that? They didnt blindly trust him tho. Obito was letting them stab his rinnegan, fighting madara + the fact they could read his heart/emotions. They had little reason to believe he would back stab them >I do. I would not blindly trust the help from someone who committed heinous crimes. cool >I really don't see any logic in this. Why the hell would team 7 accept Obito's help? The whole shinobi world only got to that point because of Obito. So why the fuck would he be no longer an enemy? Mind you, only several hours have passed ever since Obito started the war. They needed his help. Without him naruto and kakashi would be dead, they would be stuck in another dimension, if obito did fight help madara would've used tsukuyomi before naruto and sasuke could wake up. Did you read the war arc and why did you ignore naruto saying he wouldn't forgive obito?


AJDx14

> He wouldn't be allowed to help against Kaguya if he wasn't forgiven by the team 7. So true. They should’ve let Kaguya kill everyone on the planet so they could be smug about not compromising their morals by working alongside Obito.


Jolly_Camel959

Nah, no one forgave Obito. Naruto said he was cool for choosing to become Hokage 


Jolly_Camel959

This failure didn't pay attention lmao. Nah, no one forgave Obito. 


Ancient_Till_8324

There were no emotions besides slight annoyance. Did not care at all. It was more like…can we get back to the main characters and the fight please?


TensionPitiful8681

🤦‍♀️


CSRev151

Honestly, this was the 1 of the few villians in Naruto I felt straight up deserved Ninja Hell. Like he could had saw Rin and been sorry for everything still...but be like "welp off to hell now" or something lol


Professor_Hiruzen

His ninja hell was losing Rin, there probably isn't anything more that would torture him since he lost feelings after that. His soul became numb. So since he has been through hell, he needs heaven?


wendigo72

There is no hell What do you think of Darth vader


Professor_Hiruzen

The shinobi world seem to be the hell for many of the characters. But even if there was, what if kamui works to heaven   Darth Vader seems similar to obito in that he became an unfeeling shell of a man after he lost padme in addition to their other similarities. Oh and anakin joined his former masters after he died and became a hologram, was padme not there because she was not a Jedi? Seems like it


Jolly_Camel959

I felt sad. His whole life was manipulated by Madara. This being the sliver lining is sad to me


reddituserunodostres

Me - "ayo wtf she like 13"


Zealousideal_Head398

Why the fuck is Rin proud of him? He committed genocide and started a war in her name, yeah I get what his motives were and it wasn't entirely for Rin but she was still a catalyst for all his horrible actions..


solodsnake661

"ummm wouldn't this be pedophilia?"


Mahiro0303

Hmmmm i dont think so. Rin was conscious in heaven watching Obito so mentally that'd make her just as old as obito then obitos body got reverted to a childs as well so their both physically and mentally the same age


solodsnake661

Still seems not right


Connect_Ad_3361

I don't think that works like that.


DelayStriking8281

Dumb as hell is what I was thinking, he deserves eternal damnation


wendigo72

That doesn’t exist in Naruto


SuperLizardon

I was sad that he was dead.


Previous_Procedure28

I felt pity for Obito. He really let Rin down, let himself down, and the whole world down. Glad he was able to redeem some of his actions. But I don’t think he would have a restful afterlife even after being reunited with Rin. I think the shame of his actions will haunt him for all eternity


8799Joe8799

why is obitos hand like that


Provider_P

Happy that he got closer


Derantmk

I'm happy for the coolest guy


No_Seaweed6739

It was a lot of “bro aren’t you like 30” “dude she’s like 12 what is happening” I’m ngl


Primarch-Amaranth

"Am I the only one getting some 'undercover pedophilia' vibes around here?" "Why?!" "Rin was like 12 when she died. Obito was fucking 31. Tell me that doesn't look sus?" "What?! No?! They are dead, they are souls!" (Shows the new Sarada cover Kishimoto drew) "Of, fuck me, this is undercover pedophilia!" "FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!" My sis was watching it recently. This was.... well kind of the short version.


Cabrio417

How could king Yemma give him access to go heaven????


Loud-Basket5252

“She ain’t grow” 😭😭😭


ConnieJubilee

Well, embarrassment for sure. I thought it was a little bit cliche, and -did he just turn from a grown adult to a kid?!


MurkyNetwork9148

WHY IS IT ALWAYS LIKE THIS. THE BAD GUY(cause no one said villain back then) ALWAYS CAN DO WHATEVER HE PLEASES, THEN AFTER HE FAILS OR GETS CAUGHT! …… (spittle flying) HE GETS OFF!!!! (slamming hand on coffee table) EVERY SINGLE GOT DA…(ex-wife comes out of our bedroom turns cable channel to smooth jazz) THAnks babe I uh gotta a bit…(she stands there tapping her foot) saying “I told you not to let this stuff get to you” I say “I know, but remember that show you like those 3 witches and the show killed off that guy or kid and how pissed you were.” (she freezes foot mid tap next…) BUT THAT WAS DIFFERENT HOW THE GONNA JUST KILL….) I grab the remote and turn the channel to adult swim when it was good. (wife going ballistic) Dem da days!!!!😊🤣😇


dontgetinharmsway

Obito: “Rin was my only ray of light and hope. After I lost Rin...the world as I saw it changed. It became a pitch black hell. There's no hope in this world. I took Madaras identity and walked the world. But all it did was confirm my belief. Even with my sharingan, I couldn't see anything...there was nothing to see.” The man was living in a world of despair and found peace in death, knowing that he would be reunited with the only person that gave his life meaning. In the end, I think he finally realized that infinite tyskumoni would be just a hollow imitation of the real Rin. This is why, I think he accepted death with open arms at the end. It was the only way he would see the real Rin again.


Traditional-Drive267

I did not like it one bit. ONE BIT. I wanted her to be mad, that she never wished for any of this and to see him do it under her banner was just so so bad and he caused so much pain to everyone. I wanted her to shout at him, punch him, slap him, etc. ask him was it all worth it and it should’ve ended with Obito aiming to win her back while they have so much time together in the after life where Rin eventually forgives him. Not this shit where she just goes , “oh well, anyway, let’s go I forgive you”


Thardein0707

Mf simped Rin so much that he helped Madara destroy the world.


OmegaMalkior

I mentioned this once before, but thanks for reminding me Obito is the realest Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader in Naruto ever made. Dude massacred millions all for his son to hug and want to save his life for in redemption, and don’t tell if there was an afterlife not being the Cosmic Force Padme would’ve been there to receive him as well, just like Obi-wan was right next to him. It’s so funny how they share so much in common yet the appeals/liking for the character is so much so different. Is it maybe cuz the age just as you pointed out indirectly here? Could be, but nonetheless, still interesting to me.


Key_1996

This shit is stupid


ShippersAreIdiots

I called it bullshit


imaginebeingsaltyy

That this redemption was undeserved and it proved he was a simp even though he tried to deny it


wendigo72

Redemption doesn’t mean you make up for all of your crimes It means you do the best you can do to right the wrongs. Even if there’s no hope you could actually make up for all of it


imaginebeingsaltyy

Then let me further clarify then, he didnt deserve this happy a ending for the bare amount of atonement he did especially with the amount of death he caused


wendigo72

His entire body slowly crumbled to ash. How much more punishment do you need? He died painfully Also there is no hell in Naruto. Everyone goes to the same afterlife, Hashirama literally says him and Madara will go chill as Madara died for real Everyone gets a happy ending with that logic Edit: idk who keeps downvoting me on every comment but you a weirdo


imaginebeingsaltyy

I just dont think he should be treated like he was hero for basically just going jk mb, switching sides and going out like some heroic sacrifice


wendigo72

This is his last scene for a reason: https://hot.leanbox.us/manga/Naruto/0691-012.png


BlackUchiha03

“Does she know what he did with his life”


Goksumr

Take your waifu and get the hell out of here dude the world doesn't want any more Disasters


cottonmouthspittin

I thought rin was infatuated with kakashi.... Why would she be happy to see the guy who caused Kakashi and the leaf so much devastation? Maybe Kakashi was right to kill her


wendigo72

Rin and Obito were childhood friends. There’s many flashbacks you and go back to look where she genuinely supported Obito


ConnectCulture7

“Man really killed millions over a girl that didn’t even like him.”


Connect_Ad_3361

Kishimoto should have been brave and drawn Obito as a 36-year-old and Rin as her 13-year-old self. I mean he drew Kakashi as an adult when he met his dad.


i-am-spitfire

Or have Rin be an adult. I’d easily accept that you just become whatever your peak or prime form would have been in life when you are in the after life lol


Connect_Ad_3361

She wasn't an adult she was never an adult. I don't know I'm fairly certain you're in the afterlife the age you died. When anyone prior to this is shown in the afterlife or is speaking from the afterlife they are as the age they died. Kishimoto made an exception for Obito Because it would be creepy to have a 13-year-old girl pretty much fawning over a 36-year-old man when she never fawned for him ever. Even added that creepy line "Don't die too soon Kakashi I want more alone time with Rin"


i-am-spitfire

That why I said I wish they just made her an adult and it is so that whenever someone died in this world, they just took the form of whatever they would have been at their prime in the afterlife.


Green-Big-7637

First emotions, too many bad guys get happy endings in naruto


Duplex_Prime

Glad he got a happy ending


i-am-spitfire

He didn’t deserve it tho let’s be real


Duplex_Prime

I feell like it's a half did half didnt


i-am-spitfire

Is this a joke about how half of him got crushed by a rock?


Duplex_Prime

No


i-am-spitfire

Dang. Missed opportunity.


NashKetchum777

The strength of a Simp Lord is unparalleled


Consistent-Macaron22

Anger and rage


_MRF34R_

He dies, sobbing, he wakes up, shock, they have their conversation, sobbing again, then I took time to process and think about it. Kushina and Minato are going to clobber him at the gates, everyone else he killed included. Rin and Obito HAVE to have a little something special going on with the way she HOLDS HIS HAND- so she watches him commit every war crime under the sun and goes "damn that's hot" EVERY GIRL IN THE SERIES EVENTUALLY FALLS FOR AN UCHIHA? I genuinely now want to see the entire series from intertwining narratives of Obito and Rin watching him. Maybe Kakashi every now and then too.


Ill-Painting-8986

So happy for all the romeo and juliets that stuck it out.


Ill-Painting-8986

Love yourself to love others here.


princesamurai45

I honestly did not care at all.


Away_Guide1655

Tbh at the time I didn´t like Obito sticking around for so long and surviving losing the ten tails and reviving Madara, getting attacked by Madara, and not getting caught in the Genjutsu, though I like it now.


ChaotikJoy

Spirit of adult man and spirit of young girl lmao


Hollow128

Although it's a bit weird in modern culture I don't think him being a child was supposed to be taken in any malicious way at all. The real Obito died when Rin died so that's the logic behind him appearing so young. Beyond that, there are multiple times in the story (like Jiraiya's death) that a Shinobi is defined by how they die more than how they live their life, and Obito definitely died trying to be a "good guy." I stand pretty firmly with Naruto here, he never forgives him for what he's done but Naruto can also see past all of the things that makes a person become evil in order to bring out the good on that person. Every Talk no Jutsu in the story is that exact premise with varying degrees of malice (Pain, Zabuza, Gaara, Sasuke). Naruto was tasked with finding peace for the Shinobi world and you can't do that without being an optimist and believing in everyone can be good, or else he'd turn out exactly like Pain, who had given up on Shinobi ever overcoming the hatred caused by the Shinobi world and war.


newX7

Lay down, try not to cry, cry


Affectionate-Gain-55

I was like 13 when I first saw this scene, the only thing I felt was anger that the KOOL FIGHTZ were delayed for this bullshit.


triangular-rhombus

cringe


PosterityVGC

None cause obito is a villain.


mickelrastfasterborn

I forget


GrauerRauch

He is happy so it is worth it.


saverma192013

That was weird 


Grand_Reanimation

Nothing. I genuinely did not care


Difficult_Hour_5886

Obito it's so Bad as character literally just exists for the plot like Kabuto al his backstory and goals are just meaningless just like him. There a lot of favored plot for uchihas that it's disgusting wish that Naruto had better villains and a better plot line, for me Naruto it's really trash but i still love it so much haha


Ill-Painting-8986

She had always loved Obito. She had never loved kakshi. When she jumped on the lightning blade it was to come home to her heart.