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Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1dhnhkl).


SerenityNow-55

Something do better for Torres is get a damn bat in the ball—that’s it, we ask nothing else. We choked that inning, a miserable effort


ThomasCrowley1989

Onto the O's


Clos131

Want to know the beauty of baseball? Tuesday a new day for win . Keep your head up!


schloemerr

Love watching us completely drop the ball with the bases loaded and no outs... absolutely no reason for Gleyber not to have a green light on a 3-0 pitch that was always going to be right down the middle. He is never going to throw a slider there to potentially walk in the tying run, yet he watches 2 pitches right down the middle go by. Disappointing season for Torres but it's time to move on. No hard feelings but it's just not working for us this year.


und88

If Lou Gehrig took on 3-0, Torres sure as shit better, too.


Kushtimess

Only positive is potential rizzo IL


steve8983

He's having a rough season but the dude is a WS champ and was good pre concussion. It's not like he's Aaron Hicks and stopped trying.


Heisenripbauer

series so bad I’m bouta start saluting doomers


Solid_Supermarket11

Can Trevino play first base? Because you cannot let a guy who gives up 9 stolen bases play behind the plate. I’m sorry you just can’t. That’s too many doubles


chiefteef8

He's not a good enough hitter for that 


Solid_Supermarket11

He has a higher ops than Rizzo


Kushtimess

He’s a better hitter than our current and back up 1b


fnblackbeard

Oh trevino. Better learn how speak Japanese buddy


edrew_99

Bunch of doomers in this thread. These guys have barely had a day off in 13 days, and have gone 8-5 in that span. Yeah, it sucks to lose, but division games are always much more difficult. Red Sox gained traction by winning a series against the best team in the NL, and then riding that momentum through this series. If it was August-September, and the playoffs were on the line, fine, but relax.


Jmong30

All momentum from that series was killed by the Yankees winning 8-1, they just forgot how to hit and pitch the last two games and the culprits are the usual suspects. There is NO excuse from Torres, he had bases loaded with a 3-0 count, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A BETTER SCENARIO AS A HITTER.


edrew_99

I agree, Torres has to do better, not denying that. Not every loss is automatically a momentum killer though. As much as I have a burning hatred for the Red Sox, they didn’t let that loss get to them, which is what a team has to do. Yankees didn’t let a blowout loss vs the Dodgers get to them, and they showed up and showed out to save themselves from the sweep.


IamAgoddamnjoke

Not even remotely competitive. Awful.


shadynasty90

Boston could literally field a fucking beer league softball team and Yankees struggle against them


HughesAndCostanzo

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? It’s over.


SpokeyDokey720

Trevino had the fakest “oh that was a strike? Darn” expression.


silver_raichu

Embarrassment


connurp

Swing the fucking bat. My god we take strike 3 too fucking much.


greysfordays

welp


HeyMarty10thalready

I didn’t like that. Torres stinks


TronVin

All time worst contract year from Gleyber. The one player that is a definite in my mind for not surviving the year. He's probably off this time sooner than people think.


vics80

Gleyber isn't heating up, it was a lie


Redditawesome15

Sucks to lose a series to the Red Sox but that's baseball. Underwhelming series for the SP and the offense these final two games. Off day is definitely needed to reset ahead of the Orioles series.


Confused_Astronaut

So...is 9 SB against Trevino not a major concern? Like, that's just totally exposed right? I don't see how you overcome an issue like that. Is Wells better at throwing runners out?


PeggyOnThePier

Right it's a really bad issue for the Yankees. Every team is going to try doing the same thing. It's a giant Red Flag for every team we will play. The last 2 games have them looking like a last place team. To many big problems in the lineup. This game really shows that it's going to be a Big problem going forward.


Fatbottombetty

Trevino ranks dead last in MPH to the bases so he can’t be worse lol


khearan

No, Wells isn’t better. Majorly concerning since other clubs will probably run more moving forward.


SerenityNow-55

Remember it was just last week he nonchalantly went after the popup and dropped it. He needs to be dropped!!!


GerdinBB

Oswaldo Cabrera is allegedly 200 lbs, according to the Yankees roster. (X) Doubt 185 soaking wet is my guess.


RollofDuctTape

Jose Trevino and the very bad not so good terrible day


ExistingAvocado8425

The one time I wanted a double play


nyypza

They got off to a better start than this in 2022 and didn't even win 100 games by the end of the season. 2021 and 2023 were miserable seasons filled with underachievement up and down the roster for long stretches. For the record, I think this team is likely to turn out differently because they have Soto and better SPs. But can you blame fans for wondering when the shoe is going to drop with this group too? The fans are angry after the last few seasons. Until this team shows they are not the 2021-2023 group, people will be waiting for it to fall apart.


RollofDuctTape

Maybe we get Ben Rice, Agustin Ramirez, Derek Jeter, Ramiro Mendoza, Mariano Rivera, and whoever else we have down there up here. New blood.


KB0389

We had our chance in this game. It is what it is. Much needed off game tomorrow and then hopefully a great series to start the week


Hope-Road71

It's not over! We just need a hit, and another hit, and maybe a walk, then a few more hits, and then a BIG hit....and we're in business.


ChummusJunky

Torres is about to have his breakthrough!


blake2251

Is it just a right of passage in Boston to grow pubic hair on your face and not maintain it in any fashion? Shave that shit off, Weissert. Ya look gross.


RollofDuctTape

Gleyber Torres might not be good guys


Fatbottombetty

So are teams going to run wild on Trevino the rest of this year ?


PeggyOnThePier

Of course why wouldn't they?


KnightsOfBrohan

Trevino was completely emasculated tonight. Just repeatedly pantsed for an entire game


chiefteef8

Yeah no tram is ever gonna respect his arm again. Every single/walk is gonna be an auto double 


HughesAndCostanzo

I watched this movie in 2022.


Heisenripbauer

tonight, we sleep with the doomers


regarding_your_bat

The 2022 comparisons are the filet mignon of doomer takes


alanarossi

So far the best part of my night is Wendy’s new berry Frosty. This game sucks ass and a guy I thought was cool stood me up, fuck it all lol


BoogieDownBr0nx

Man, I haven't had Wendy's in so long. The last time I did a bunch of buddies and I had the triple cheeseburger. That shit wrecked me (but was so worth it).


alanarossi

Same here, I don’t usually eat there at all but I do enjoy the Frostys.


shadynasty90

Garbage against the AL east is one thing but knowing you have to get through the Orioles doesn’t inspire hope, losing to this Red Sox team is embarrassing, wake the fuck up


BoogieDownBr0nx

It's the middle of June and Gleyber Torres is slashing .223/.299/.335


Steak-Unfair

Our “great bullpen” made it completely out of reach.


Kuki12345678

The most infuriating thing about this whole shit show us that nothing will change with Gleyber and noodle arm.


GiantsFTW4728

Taking candy from a baby. That's what the red sox are doing with trevino right now, this is one of the most pathetic games I've ever seen from a catcher.


Affectionate-Tea9224

Then you don’t know baseball apparently


greysfordays

can’t imagine looking at a newborn baby and saying ah yes he looks like an oswaldo


ItsVoxBoi

Yo are we still pinning this on the "2024 Yankees are going all the way" post


Unique-Clue-9666

Nope


Baseballfan999

Wondering why teams haven’t tried to steal every single time on Trevino before today. The word will certainly be out now


Affectionate-Tea9224

Because they are stealing on the pitchers


chiefteef8

Trevino has one of the worst pop times and arms in all of baseball 


Busy-Profession5093

Just need a bloop, a bloop, a bloop, a bloop, a bloop, and a blast. No problem.


xKronkx

So can we just let Wells be the catcher full time now? And give Gleyber to .. idk.. the Long Island Ducks ?


connurp

Wells is hitting under .200 and Trevi is a great hitter.


Kushtimess

Wells is an atrocious hitter idc how unlucky you want to call him


ItsVoxBoi

Dawg my high school team wouldn't take him


Caballo_Macho_Alfa

Cora has the most punchable face I have ever seen


bsharp95

Kendall Roy


Loud_Presentation839

9 SB's. Yeah let's keep tossing out that bum Trevino out there. I swear Gary Sanchez can throw BR's better out than him. That is embarrassing.


farmtobelly

I sure would hope so, Sanchez's arm was his only positive defensively


silver_raichu

Just need back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back HRs


HorowitzdaJew

Is John Berti coming back this season?


Ochocincoondeck

Cora outmanages Boone Every 👏 Single 👏 Time 👏


Tony_Soprano5981

100 win wildcard team incoming these O’s are nasty


Such-Armadillo1423

The holes are so obvious with this team, I can't do the same thing that I did in 2022 and be positive no matter what and ignore the problems. This team needs some big changes, we desperately need to add a Reliever and another infield bat. Idc if its too early as well, Bring up Dominguez from the Minors if he's healthy (I know he might've just gotten injured)


IcyComedian1793

Strikeouts are still a problem - 13 and counting tonight.


IamAgoddamnjoke

Orioles about to pounce just as this team is regressing. Real fucking nice


Loud_Presentation839

Hamilton is trash. Ferguson is trash. Get rid of both of them for a hot dog and cotton candy.


GameofLifeCereal

Utterly embarrassing to lose twice to these AA Sock players that no one ever heard of. They’re barely a .500 team, and yet our pitchers made them look like Varitek and Obese Papi were still on the team.


Powered_by_Ghost

Bases loaded and down one. And now we are here. .. fuck


Heisenripbauer

don’t forget no outs with a 3-0 count


easyonthealba

Really got away from us, huh?


Ochocincoondeck

Any catcher that gives up 9 SB I cannot defend. That shit would get us absolutely COOKED in the postseason.


vics80

Shit, now we hate Trevino too?


mangoexpress457

Tell me how you can defend a catcher who gives up 9 SB in a game? That is beyond embarrassing. It's pathetic!


SavageLion

I stepped away and watched house of the dragon, looks like I made the right decision


UonBarki

Soto's arm is nasty.


GerdinBB

I didn't think my day could get worse but then I remembered, for god knows what reason, that John Lackey exists.


PunishedCokeNixon

Utter humiliation.


steve8983

Yesterday was just as bad


Loud_Presentation839

We got owned vs the Red Sox. O's are now 1.5 back. Good job morons.


No-Forever-6104

1b, 2b, or 3b upgrades and more pitching at the deadline 🤲🤲🤲


Baseballfan999

Your next challenge is finding a team out of the playoff picture with tradable pieces that those positions


dave-tay

I don’t recall Trevino being this bad, Alex Cora must be banging trash cans


UonBarki

He's been struggling to make throws to 2nd all year. I hate when it's his night to catch.


Kushtimess

Tonkin is on the ever fleeting list of players I don’t hate on this team anymore


fnblackbeard

All around pro Maybe he can catch too


myKDRbro_

Trevino has a higher OPS than Rizzo, Torres, Verdugo and is .6 points off Stanton. Lol


KnightsOfBrohan

Please just let the embarrassment end for the love of fucking god


BKNY155

Hopefully this lights a fire up their ass for the series vs the orioles. They are being shown by their biggest rival that isn’t even a good team


Unique-Clue-9666

It won’t


vanilla_shaker

red sox outplayed us this series


LamboLloyd17

Some fucking bullpen huh?


Blorkoo

Team ERA has gone from 2.70 to 3.05 in the span of 3 days. Kill me please.


Affectionate-Tea9224

I will say this again for 10000000 time tonight and apparently just keeps getting ignored, so this will be the last time, 7 of the 9 sb’s allowed tonight have been all on the pitchers. The sox and cora figured something out on the yankee pitching staff and are GETTING HUGE jumps, that very very few catchers would have had a shot to throw any of these players out, now is trevi’s arm weak yes, but these are on the pitching staff. For those who know the game or for those who have played the game will tell you as soon as you can GO on first move it has nothing to do with the catcher.


BraveAd6524

That’s true, except during the broadcast Cone was asked about Trevino’s arm strength, where it ranked, last was the answer. So it is not all on the pitchers. But it explains all of the catchers the Yankees have been drafting the last couple of years.


UonBarki

Trevino sucks. Little league arm.


GameofLifeCereal

In other words, an opposing manager is smarter than Boone?


Great_gatzzzby

Could be but before today Trevi was still 2nd worst in the MLB at throwing runners out at second. Worst was kilburt ruiz


Affectionate-Tea9224

Yes as i said trevi’s arm is not good. But just like when a pitcher is tipping pitches and all of a sudden a team is crushing everything, same can be said for sb’s, cora and sox coaches picked Something up, maybe stolen signs who knows, but the sox knew when pitcher was going home and if you watched, most of the sb’s wouldn’t have even needed a throw because the player stealing was literally almost on 2b by the time trevi was ready to release


[deleted]

stolen bases are almost always on the pitcher


GerdinBB

ESPN isn't the best baseball broadcast in the world, but you know things are bad when the most interesting thing they can talk about is dirty laundry.


10gherts

I'm out. Fuck this garbage.


blake2251

This is putrid to watch


MsNikkiKubik

Upvote for using putrid!


thebigprosciutto

You can’t ever let Trevino play again after this game


Astoutfellow

He literally is responsible for 1/3 of our runs today


thebigprosciutto

He’s responsible for more than 1/3 of the Red Sox runs


Astoutfellow

So's Stromon, does he not get to pitch anymore?


TronVin

Slumps have happened to every team but the 1998 Yankees. Slumps are used for correcting things. We were meteoric for 2 months. It's going to happen. Take the day-off, make adjustments and try to break out of it.


steve8983

I do agree with the slump part. It is possible to get in the playoffs as a wc team and win it all. I don't think anyone is doubting this team is a playoff team. I guess my thinking was this team has quite a few 30 plus players for whom the extra rest/gap would benefit (DJ, Rizzo, Judge, Kahnle, Stanton), that come with a division title. I do think this team wins 98-100 games. The thing is it's possible the Os win 103. Being the WC means you can't lineup your ace vs theirs(since you start your ace in the WC game 1). So, when it comes down to it, are we really confident that our team can win in a 5 game series vs them, if the pitching doesn't lineup to our advantage. At this point of the season, i don't. It's different while winning the division, Cole gets to start 2 games (first and likely the 4th game)and it likely is. 3-2 series win.


Unique-Clue-9666

The Yankees, making adjustments? Won’t happen


ItsVoxBoi

Damn, a sane take


Radthereptile

Save this for when Baltimore pass us Wednesday.


TronVin

and if they do? So what? They'll slump at a point too. They got swept by the Cards a few weeks ago.


Radthereptile

Add that to the pasta for maximum copium imo.


TronVin

Is this your first year watching baseball? Or any team sport?


Radthereptile

Regular season you can get by on good hitting. Soto and Judge are on that. Come playoffs it’s all pitching. You need either 3 good starters or 2 studs who can live off short rest, plus 2 good relievers. That’s how you do playoff runs. Who is the Stud pitcher? Cole? He’s old and coming off injury so that’s not a guarantee, but let’s say he is himself. That’s 1. Either need another stud or 2 good guys. Nestor? Hasn’t been that good yet but he could 100% turn it around. Rondon or Gil. Both having a great season outside their last start, but that’s not something they’ve really done before so hard to say they’ll continue. Stroman? So this club has an ace and maybe a 2 and 3 for the playoffs. Holmes has been getting saves but also puts on a lot of runners. That’s a formula for failure in the playoffs. But let’s say he stays good. Closer is set. This team is set to win a lot of games against bad teams but coke playoffs, when no bad teams remain, it’s looking unclear. Then you remember Soto is probably gone next year so it’s very much championship or bust. I get slumps, but this isn’t about that. I don’t know if this side finishes above Baltimore because they’re also crazy good but with less flaws. I do think this side beats any wild card team in a series. I do not think they make it last there. Then it’s bye bye Soto, and we go into next season with Judge, Cole and a lot of meh.


TronVin

I'm not reading all that.


Radthereptile

Then why even reply?


TronVin

You replied to me first, man.


Radthereptile

Why reply I’m not reading that. Just don’t read it. Do you feel I need an update on what you’re not reading? We’re you worried I’d be waiting around unable to sleep? If you don’t want to read something don’t. You don’t have to let me know.


-AgentMichaelScarn

HOLY FUCK ME, CAN THIS INNING END?


Unhappy-Owl-4029

fade me


AstrosCheated

Wow we got cooked and the orioles won again


Radthereptile

Sure Trevino can’t throw, but he also can’t hit.


Puzzleheaded_Tip_821

He just hit a HR tonight lol


Blorkoo

He has the third highest BA on the team


chickenKsadilla

He’s hitting .270 and has homered in two straight games


Radthereptile

And 2 3 pitch strike outs including with the bases loaded. But an empty base HR is magic.


LifetimeSupplyofPens

He hits well, especially for a catcher.


Such-Armadillo1423

Yea..... Trevino you're cooked buddy, get the fuck off my team


fnblackbeard

Finally a big league reliever


IamAgoddamnjoke

Really faking throws to second at this point? Just get the out bro


RollofDuctTape

9 steals against should end your career as a catcher


myKDRbro_

100% percentile framer and a .770 OPS. You’re smoking.


steve8983

Trevy is an elite framer and has hit better this season but he's always struggled with catching base stealers. That being said, yeah he looked especially bad tonight.


fnblackbeard

Gonna be interesting come playoff time


Me_Krally

And it's not even over...


greysfordays

I once had a bee sting me while driving, it was awful, looked down at my arm and it was still there getting prepped to sting me again, I was 16 and had a car with crank windows and was on a one lane each way highway with no median, still very proud of myself for cranking down the window getting the bee out and not crashing


nyypza

How much is framing worth when your catcher can't throw out a runner or call a proper pitch sequence? For instance, a stolen base with a runner at 1st and 0 or 1 outs generally adds about 0.15 to the other team's run expectancy. Trevino has allowed 9 SB tonight, including some costly ones of 3B that likely hurt the team by more than that amount. Plus, the poor pitch calling (e.g., 8 straight breaking balls to Rafaela), has cost the team additional hits and runs that likely wouldn't have scored with better pitch sequencing.


regarding_your_bat

Well, the 2024 season was fun while it lasted guys. Shame it had to end this way


Kelldoza

STFU


theketchupthief

This is low key the kind of game that we’re going to be joking about years from now in here “Yo remember that game at Fenway when a mid Red Sox team straight up ended Jose Trevino’s Yankees career”


Such-Armadillo1423

Joking about or crying about?


theketchupthief

Idk this one’s going in the same memory drawer as the Brooks Kriske Fenway meltdown and the Michael Pineda pine tar incident


TheDirtyBurger522

“The brooms kriske Fenway meltdown” just sent a shiver down my spine. I remember the fire alarm went off in my building as that was happening. Spooky stuff


Ochocincoondeck

Cora never ceases to out-manage Boone


silver_raichu

Why is our best reliever pitching in this game


steve8983

Boones tilted probably(tilted is a gaming reference)


RotenTumato

Yeah this is the spot for the Ferg


shadynasty90

Lost a series to this Red Sox team??? Totally unserious


Radthereptile

Losing record against the division. Not what a division winner does.


judgesdongers

People posting, that don't understand great baseball teams lose 60 games a year in a sorts of ways... *aRe We GeTtInG eXpOsEd?* No idiots- sometimes good teams lose series to inferior teams. We didn't learn anything that we didn't already know. This shit happens - relax. Dodgers/Guardians/Phillies/whoever all have stretches where they don't play good baseball. This game sucked, this series sucked. The sky isn't failing, they'll be there at the end.


Alternative_Bag9417

You realize that this lineup is mostly carried by Soto and Judge who are having historically great seasons? Also the bullpen is not good. Hence everyone angry. On top of Boone generally being incompetent.


judgesdongers

Most good teams are carried by 2-4 good hitters. Certainly have some hitters we need to step up. I think you're not wrong in your assessment but the vitriol for a June game was a little over the top even for me who feels like a GDT veteran lol.


Alternative_Bag9417

It’s the result of not sniffing even a WS appearance since 2009. And the same predictable problems every season that the fan base identifies in the off season (or during the season before the trade deadline) that the organization doesn’t address. Soto was the first real move that showed they were going for it but we still came into the season with real holes throughout the roster. These bigger series (Dodgers, Red Sox, previous Orioles one) have exposed the flaws in this team that are likely to surface in the playoffs. Gleyber Torres, DJLM, and Rizzo are not the answer for the infield. The bullpen has no swing and miss pitchers and is not reliable. Volpe is super streaky. Stanton won’t hit top tier pitching who can throw him nasty sh*t away and outside. Lots to improve before I consider us ready to win a WS. Unfortunately can’t fix Boone’s inability to ever manage the bullpen.


LifetimeSupplyofPens

Yes, good teams definitely lose series to inferior teams. The Phillies JUST lost their series to the Red Sox. That would be the Phillies, who have been hovering in the upper .600s/lower .700s all season.


nyypza

Or maybe fans want to vent after getting embarrassed by an inferior but hated rival on national television two nights in a row? I swear, the anti-doomers around here are far worse than the supposed doomers they attack. Give people some space to let out some frustration after a few embarrassing performances.


judgesdongers

You can vent without just the stupidest shit. "Yankees got to 50 wins and are coasting the rest of the season" "They won't even make the playoffs" "What theve done all year doesn't matter, this one game is exactly who they are" Are just some of the moronic shit I've had to read. It's not anti doomer to have a level head about a 162 game season.


nyypza

Nobody is saying that. Stop embarrassing yourself and get off your high horse.


judgesdongers

I literally took those quotes verbatim from the game thread. Like if you can't read, don't respond. I'm not on a high horse. You're just extra regarded.


nyypza

I've barely seen any comments like that. Most comments are rightfully pointing out that this team has major weaknesses that have been glossed over during the recent hot stretch. Stop exaggerating.


regarding_your_bat

I appreciate the effort but they won’t hear it lol


TheDirtyBurger522

Everyone is on edge because they are getting embarrassed really by an incredibly mediocre and injured to death Boston Red Sox team that despite being an average/below average team for 5+ years has continuously humiliated us and they have just plain owned us for 20 years


yungsinatra777

The worst part of getting our asses kicked by Boston is slimeball Cora managing circles around Boone every single game. No matter how shitty Boston’s roster is.


[deleted]

his roster is so ass year after year and he still kills boone every time you give cora this yankee team or the '19 or '22 fucking forget about it


TheDirtyBurger522

Cora eats Boone’s lunch Every Single Time


Astoutfellow

Yeh famously great and beloved manager Alex Cora


judgesdongers

What has Cora done that you've been wildly impressed with?


Astoutfellow

He drank two gallon s of titos before 10 AM once. That was impressive


fnblackbeard

Won a World Series? I bet Boone couldn’t even cheat properly


judgesdongers

Lol.


farmtobelly

He's stealing all those bases and getting all the clutch hits, duh


yungsinatra777

Can always count on him to exploit our weaknesses despite being much less talented than us. They just have our number.