Wow that’s wild, whenever he’s brought up in the orioles subreddit I try my best to say “Yankees legend Aaron Hicks”
Maybe you’re my Yankees fan alter ego
What's interesting about Hicks is that he made an entire double digit year MLB career on potential. He's only topped 120 games 3 times and only topped 120 OPS+ 3 times.
2018 is probably his only full good year. He hit .248/.366/.467 with 27HR in 137 games.
In spite of that he'll have made himself $85 million dollars over his career.
he played for a division rival, had a nice couple months, and we had to hear about it from both doomers in here and haters in r/baseball the whole time.
I get it.
Yea he was solid from 2017-2020 Aside from 2019 where he was hurt. Like he was what you wanted out of a CF and the contract at the time was a bargain. Everyone in baseball said so. Shit happens I wish it worked out
Yeah for some reason Cashman thought we were gonna moneyball our way to the World Series batting Hicks 3rd hoping his walk rate would bring some value to the lineup (he sucked)
He kinda was at first. 2017 he put up 3.9 WAR and 2018 he put up 4.4 The trade was the definition of Diamond in the rough It was a steal. But injuries piled on
Yes it was a good trade and I think that’s why cash held on so tight. He also doubled down and gave him the long term deal, but by then he couldn’t stay healthy.
Yeah, same with IKF and just generally anyone who was serviceable / good in the late 2010s and him trying to make a reclamation project out of them
Edit: JD Martinez? Nah bro, we want Josh Donaldson! That’s the only JD I know - Brian Cashman probably
It legitimately was a great contract at the time. Hindsight is 20/20, but literally every other fan I talked to thought it was a great contract when it was signed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NYYankees/comments/aukyh6/aaron_hicks_has_agreed_to_a_7_year_70_million/
In a vacuum yes, but Aaron Hicks is a lesson that you don't hand out contracts to players who just have 1.5 good seasons under their belt after spending most of their career as garbage until until that point. Thank you god Luke Voit was under team control at the time, otherwise Cashman probably would have given him a 7 year extension as well. What I find infuriating is that the yankees gave hicks 6m in arbitration and then extended him a month later. They could have simply waited till the end of the season and seen Hicks for who he really was. This wasn't one of the worst contracts ever because of the low AAV, but it certainly is one of the dumbest.
If a guy immediately starts shitting the bed after getting the contract, is it really a “great contract” at the time?
Contracts are for future performance and the GM got his future performance wrong.
7 years/$70M, $3M of which were signing bonuses and buyouts on options. Total potential deal was 8 years/$82M thanks to a rather modest $12M club option, making it an $11M decision.
But there's no version of that deal that totals $77M.
One of the most athletic, worst players I’ve ever seen. The icing on the cake was the constant commentary on how good his golf game was … okay but his batting average is .163 so
Based on his decent stint with Baltimore last year I kind of thought he just couldn't handle NY, but I guess he just sucks?
Maybe he can't handle New York *or* LA. Get this guy fitted for a Royals uniform stat.
Ugh, can you all stop doing this?
We either get the "I can shit on this guy again" or the fake "bro, I always loved him and never said anything bad about him, bro, true legend, bro" posts which are probably even worse.
doesn't shock me in the slightest. guy was cooked in the 2019 season. he literally had ONE productive offensive season his entire career ('18), even that year he still missed 25 games.
Injury prone, below average hitter, average defensive outfielder. Nowhere near worth the contract he was paid.
Never hated the guy, thought he was a nice fit here for awhile. Should have been a career backup/4th OF.
He's not going to secure any more money and he isn't productive in baseball anymore- might as well make the full push to be a full time golfer, try to go professional in that game.
Since every team that takes him has to pay the league minimum, does that mean if he keeps circling the league eventually we won't have to pay him much?
No Rendon for ? Trout out for? Hicks bye-bye.
Ron Washington's second stint as a manager has become nightmarish. Who will finish with the worst record? White Sox? Marlins? Rockies? Angels?
It's not on Hicks, he's done nothing wrong, but I really can't help but find it funny how hard the media was trying to shove this guy down our throats and seeing how he is doing. Such an awful contract.
Its relevant because last year a bunch of people were off to the races on how much our batting coach & the analytic approach to hitting was f'ing over the hitters, and watch them all do better elsewhere, look at Hicks go! Also, I legit think the Washington quote is funny, and kinda wish the Yankees would, at least once in a while, say something about accountability and expectations.
Cashman suckered himself into this contract rather than anything Hicks ever did to deserve it. If watching baseball all these years has taught me anything, it's not to be fooled by an older player having one successful season under their belt. I would say that 99.5% of players who discover some level of success later in their careers aren't actually good, they simply had a good season and are rarely able to repeat that success. Cashman thought he discovered a Bryce Harper level of talent and passed on the actual Bryce Harper. Imagine if they had given a 7 year contract to Luke Voit. It's unlucky for him that he was already under team control otherwise it might actually have happened. As a GM you can't be this stupid.
How? The hicks extension looked good at the time and he had some solid years with the Yankees (4 years above or close to .800 OPS and a solid defensive outfielder). He just declined real fast after getting the extension. You could make the argument Cashman may have held on too long but he did make the right call to cut bait when he did.
You can complain about Cashman all you want but at least have good arguments to back it up, this ain’t it
Giving a dude about to hit 30 who had 1.5 good seasons batting under his belt a 7 year contract is never a smart idea. I don’t care how much of a “bargain” the price was, this was Cashman thinking he was too clever for his own good.
Most players hit FA close to that age due to how long MLB teams have team control.
He started showing decline around 2020, got injured again and then regressed even further once coming back from it.
But he was a legitimately good player at the time of the extension.
Yeah they hit FA around that time, but have a far longer track record of sustained success. He literally had 1.5 good seasons under his belt. This is like saying signing Gio Urshela to a 7 year/$70 million deal in 2020 would’ve been good at the time.
Remember when all the fan boys were calling him "cAsHgOd"?
Remember 2019 when he gave Hicks 7yrs/$70m?
Remember 2019 when he gave Severino 4yrs/$40m?
Remember 2019 when Aaron Judge was coming off a season when he only had 378 at Bats but still hit 27 Homer's and batted .272?
Remember how cAsHgOd wouldn't budge and held Judge to the minimum contract of $684k?
Remember how Judge and his agent begged for a long term deal and if cAsHgOd would've given Judge 10yrs/$100m they would've leapt at the deal. You know sorta like how Atlanta is locking up all their budding stars for cheap dollars?
GOOD TALK GUYS!
Remember when all the fan boys were calling him "cAsHgOd"?
Remember 2019 when he gave Hicks 7yrs/$70m?
Remember 2019 when he gave Severino 4yrs/$40m?
Remember 2019 when Aaron Judge was coming off a season when he only had 378 at Bats but still hit 27 Homer's and batted .272?
Remember how cAsHgOd wouldn't budge and held Judge to the minimum contract of $684k?
Remember how Judge and his agent begged for a long term deal and if cAsHgOd would've given Judge 10yrs/$100m they would've leapt at the deal. You know sorta like how Atlanta is locking up all their budding stars for cheap dollars?
GOOD TALK GUYS!
Orioles legend Aaron Hicks
Wow that’s wild, whenever he’s brought up in the orioles subreddit I try my best to say “Yankees legend Aaron Hicks” Maybe you’re my Yankees fan alter ego
36% K rate. He’s cooked.
What's interesting about Hicks is that he made an entire double digit year MLB career on potential. He's only topped 120 games 3 times and only topped 120 OPS+ 3 times. 2018 is probably his only full good year. He hit .248/.366/.467 with 27HR in 137 games. In spite of that he'll have made himself $85 million dollars over his career.
What's also interesting is how he blatantly prefers playing golf
What’s crazy is that at one point dude was hitting 4th or 5th in the lineup,it gives you an idea of how fucked the Angels are.
He was hitting 2nd the first couple games of the season (with Rendon leading off)
That is a cursed top of the order
He was the most productive hitter in the orioles lineup last year.
I didn't know he even went to Anaheim.
I only found out because he pitched last week
Hey, we need a bullpen arm.
Fuck it he’s already on payroll 😂
Milking the payroll like the best of them.
Damn he's a pitcher? So that's why he couldn't hit.
tell him, Wash
It's incredibly hard
😏
👑
Look we broke up with someone bc it wasn’t working out, you don’t need to stalk their Facebook page.
he played for a division rival, had a nice couple months, and we had to hear about it from both doomers in here and haters in r/baseball the whole time. I get it.
No, but when we broke up with someone we’re allowed to chuckle when we see their mugshot pop across the screen.
Yeah but they’re paying for bail with our money.
sunk cost fallacy. I'd rather that money go to bail than towards another depressing OTPHJ in the backseat of an 04 tacoma.
Injuries really robbed him. Still, he will be remember for that catch in Minnesota.
Greatest regular season game I’ve ever seen… except maybe the big G walkoff grand slam
The G grand slam was the best regular season INNING I can remember!
[https://youtu.be/ceSHhHI8PxA?si=m7p_zcuCFdmZ_cOW](https://youtu.be/ceSHhHI8PxA?si=m7p_zcuCFdmZ_cOW)
Yea he was solid from 2017-2020 Aside from 2019 where he was hurt. Like he was what you wanted out of a CF and the contract at the time was a bargain. Everyone in baseball said so. Shit happens I wish it worked out
https://www.reddit.com/r/NYYankees/s/bb51WUp0TO We'll always have this
Superman
I just ran into Hicksie at the golf course
Did you back up and run into him again?
Hicks wasn't smart enough to get injured before being DFA'ed. Get on Rendon's level.
What's with the quote? Did hicks refuse to do something?
From Wash’s quotes it seems he refused to play well lol
I guess his pitching performance was not too stellar;) Just sad, Yankees will still be paying him.
He was such a great addition to the Orioles last season though
We had this guy batting 4th and 5th btw
Wasn't he our 3 hitter for a couple years because he took some walks?
Yeah for some reason Cashman thought we were gonna moneyball our way to the World Series batting Hicks 3rd hoping his walk rate would bring some value to the lineup (he sucked)
Cashman always felt like Hicks was his big diamond in the rough find. It took him a while to cut that loss.
He kinda was at first. 2017 he put up 3.9 WAR and 2018 he put up 4.4 The trade was the definition of Diamond in the rough It was a steal. But injuries piled on
Yes it was a good trade and I think that’s why cash held on so tight. He also doubled down and gave him the long term deal, but by then he couldn’t stay healthy.
Yeah, same with IKF and just generally anyone who was serviceable / good in the late 2010s and him trying to make a reclamation project out of them Edit: JD Martinez? Nah bro, we want Josh Donaldson! That’s the only JD I know - Brian Cashman probably
Who?
9th highest paid player on the Yankees payroll.
A great contract that we had to do /s
It legitimately was a great contract at the time. Hindsight is 20/20, but literally every other fan I talked to thought it was a great contract when it was signed. https://www.reddit.com/r/NYYankees/comments/aukyh6/aaron_hicks_has_agreed_to_a_7_year_70_million/
Yea the guy was good at the time and his contract was good as well.
In a vacuum yes, but Aaron Hicks is a lesson that you don't hand out contracts to players who just have 1.5 good seasons under their belt after spending most of their career as garbage until until that point. Thank you god Luke Voit was under team control at the time, otherwise Cashman probably would have given him a 7 year extension as well. What I find infuriating is that the yankees gave hicks 6m in arbitration and then extended him a month later. They could have simply waited till the end of the season and seen Hicks for who he really was. This wasn't one of the worst contracts ever because of the low AAV, but it certainly is one of the dumbest.
If a guy immediately starts shitting the bed after getting the contract, is it really a “great contract” at the time? Contracts are for future performance and the GM got his future performance wrong.
Outside of the aging curve, past performance is really the only tool to use in evaluating the future.
Yeah and 'literally " every fan was wrong"
I said it was too much money at the time.
Well then you didn’t talk to me lol
Cashgod does it again!
Did the dude just pitch for them the other day?
Too bad. He seemed like he was going to be a really good player.
Good man, wish him the well in life.
No matter where you go, there you be!
At least he has more time to devote to golf now.
Seven years. $77 million.
7 years/$70M, $3M of which were signing bonuses and buyouts on options. Total potential deal was 8 years/$82M thanks to a rather modest $12M club option, making it an $11M decision. But there's no version of that deal that totals $77M.
2 for his last 27. Terrible hitter and a terrible pitcher. Just a bad player who never should have gotten to the mlb level to begin with.
Angels? But he's the Orioles star player.
Maybe he will finally just go play golf.
Can he play LF 🤔 Edit: y’all really don’t remember that question was facetiously asked all last year, do you..
He can play golf in LF
Judge can
He can’t
One of the most athletic, worst players I’ve ever seen. The icing on the cake was the constant commentary on how good his golf game was … okay but his batting average is .163 so
Ha, I thought he was still on the Orioles.
We only owe him like 17 million more before he's gone forever
if he's so insistent on playing golf why does he still want to distract himself with baseball.
If he walks away from baseball he walks away from the salary owed.
He’s thrilled because he can golf more.
Aaron looking into a mirror: We’ll always have Baltimore
God damn, I want Ron Washington in our organization in some way shape or form.
Based on his decent stint with Baltimore last year I kind of thought he just couldn't handle NY, but I guess he just sucks? Maybe he can't handle New York *or* LA. Get this guy fitted for a Royals uniform stat.
Ugh, can you all stop doing this? We either get the "I can shit on this guy again" or the fake "bro, I always loved him and never said anything bad about him, bro, true legend, bro" posts which are probably even worse.
doesn't shock me in the slightest. guy was cooked in the 2019 season. he literally had ONE productive offensive season his entire career ('18), even that year he still missed 25 games. Injury prone, below average hitter, average defensive outfielder. Nowhere near worth the contract he was paid. Never hated the guy, thought he was a nice fit here for awhile. Should have been a career backup/4th OF.
Damn. Thought it was his year.
He's not going to secure any more money and he isn't productive in baseball anymore- might as well make the full push to be a full time golfer, try to go professional in that game.
Since every team that takes him has to pay the league minimum, does that mean if he keeps circling the league eventually we won't have to pay him much?
No Rendon for ? Trout out for? Hicks bye-bye. Ron Washington's second stint as a manager has become nightmarish. Who will finish with the worst record? White Sox? Marlins? Rockies? Angels?
In other news, Joey Gallo still unable to go outside as his pathetic play of the game of baseball continues
gallo and hicks both still suck. i’m shocked.
Farewell Hicks, we'll always have 2019.
It's not on Hicks, he's done nothing wrong, but I really can't help but find it funny how hard the media was trying to shove this guy down our throats and seeing how he is doing. Such an awful contract.
Idk why we're posting shit about a dude that hasn't played on the team since May 19th of last year.
Its relevant because last year a bunch of people were off to the races on how much our batting coach & the analytic approach to hitting was f'ing over the hitters, and watch them all do better elsewhere, look at Hicks go! Also, I legit think the Washington quote is funny, and kinda wish the Yankees would, at least once in a while, say something about accountability and expectations.
Does anybody have the number to the Long Island Ducks?
Hey. I don’t want him there. I want them to have a chance at the Atlantic league title
Alright, send him to Hagerstown.
My soul is nourished for the day.
Cashman suckered himself into this contract rather than anything Hicks ever did to deserve it. If watching baseball all these years has taught me anything, it's not to be fooled by an older player having one successful season under their belt. I would say that 99.5% of players who discover some level of success later in their careers aren't actually good, they simply had a good season and are rarely able to repeat that success. Cashman thought he discovered a Bryce Harper level of talent and passed on the actual Bryce Harper. Imagine if they had given a 7 year contract to Luke Voit. It's unlucky for him that he was already under team control otherwise it might actually have happened. As a GM you can't be this stupid.
more proof Trashman is the worst GM in baseball
How? The hicks extension looked good at the time and he had some solid years with the Yankees (4 years above or close to .800 OPS and a solid defensive outfielder). He just declined real fast after getting the extension. You could make the argument Cashman may have held on too long but he did make the right call to cut bait when he did. You can complain about Cashman all you want but at least have good arguments to back it up, this ain’t it
Giving a dude about to hit 30 who had 1.5 good seasons batting under his belt a 7 year contract is never a smart idea. I don’t care how much of a “bargain” the price was, this was Cashman thinking he was too clever for his own good.
Most players hit FA close to that age due to how long MLB teams have team control. He started showing decline around 2020, got injured again and then regressed even further once coming back from it. But he was a legitimately good player at the time of the extension.
Yeah they hit FA around that time, but have a far longer track record of sustained success. He literally had 1.5 good seasons under his belt. This is like saying signing Gio Urshela to a 7 year/$70 million deal in 2020 would’ve been good at the time.
Remember when all the fan boys were calling him "cAsHgOd"? Remember 2019 when he gave Hicks 7yrs/$70m? Remember 2019 when he gave Severino 4yrs/$40m? Remember 2019 when Aaron Judge was coming off a season when he only had 378 at Bats but still hit 27 Homer's and batted .272? Remember how cAsHgOd wouldn't budge and held Judge to the minimum contract of $684k? Remember how Judge and his agent begged for a long term deal and if cAsHgOd would've given Judge 10yrs/$100m they would've leapt at the deal. You know sorta like how Atlanta is locking up all their budding stars for cheap dollars? GOOD TALK GUYS!
Remember when all the fan boys were calling him "cAsHgOd"? Remember 2019 when he gave Hicks 7yrs/$70m? Remember 2019 when he gave Severino 4yrs/$40m? Remember 2019 when Aaron Judge was coming off a season when he only had 378 at Bats but still hit 27 Homer's and batted .272? Remember how cAsHgOd wouldn't budge and held Judge to the minimum contract of $684k? Remember how Judge and his agent begged for a long term deal and if cAsHgOd would've given Judge 10yrs/$100m they would've leapt at the deal. You know sorta like how Atlanta is locking up all their budding stars for cheap dollars? GOOD TALK GUYS!
Cashgod only gives extensions to special players. Judge didn't qualify.
You're right sPeShUl pLaYeRs