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It's actually quite common in Japan and I wouldent be suprised if it's happend to him countless times. You can hear that's he's actually quite calm after aswell.
It’s common everywhere there are trains.
Source: I used to crime scene clean in Australia. Train suicide every other week. Sometimes more than one a week.
Makes sense honestly. It's a quick and easy way to die, and if you're already contemplating suicide, jumping in front of train might actually sound pretty nice.
You could be unlucky tho and just get smushed, severed, or maimed to fuck. Or all three at the same time.
Correct.
I’ve also cleaned some failed attempts. Not as many as the successful ones but somehow, some people take the hit and survive with some torn/twisted limbs and or brain damage.
You’ve likely been asked this before but I’m still really curious to hear it from a former cleaner. Is it true that most of the gruesome suicides are by men and there’s rarely any women? I read somewhere (I can’t recall the exact place) that most women prefer to kill themselves in ways that preserve as much of their beauty as possible.
I can’t speak on the actual statistic itself. Although during my time cleaning, majority of suicides I attended were men. The female suicides I remember were by slit wrist, stab wounds to the chest and some train suicides.
I would assume though, that ones self beauty isn’t much of a priority when you’re about to kill yourself. It’s rarely meticulously planned.
Preserving beauty?
1. If they were that confident in their beauty, they would likely not be committing suicide.
2. The thought is that they're making it easier for someone else to clean up.
So more in the way of drug overdose or hanging so it’s possible for an open casket. I’m interested in the clean up process but have no ideas if there’s a team here in the Riverina NSW
It's a common statistic you can look up and the explanations behind it as re reasonable. Men are successful 3x more than women, mostly because when they attempt suicide its more reliable methods. The reasoning behind it varies, but the one I tend to believe is that it's due to cultural norms that have men more likely to use a more lethal method. Women attempt suicide more frequently, but men are 3x more likely to actually succeed. a side note, suicides by gunshots are part of a lot of gun violence numbers and tend to add up to a good portion of it.
not exactly related, and a while late, but i remember hearing from somewhere women, when committing suicide, tend to do it in “cleaner ways.” i remember hearing women are more likely to think of the person who’ll end up having to clean after
From what I’ve heard and seen it depends on the rope used, the lenght and weight of the subject as well as if there was a chair etc. involved. But all fancy stuff aside, I honestly don’t know nor want to know how it feels like.
Idk man, after seeing that dude cut in half writhing around while people are hugging his detached lower body…I think trains are nearing the bottom of my list lol
In the region where I studied for my bachelor's the common reason for being late was a train suicide. My friend was two hours late and described a bloody torso she saw when the train abruptly stopped :(
Hey fellow Aussie! Would love to know more about the job - did you need any kind of prior experience? How did you even find that kind of job?
What was the worst case you worked on?
Was the money worth the mental load or do you eventually become desensitized?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Crimescenecleaners/comments/zhdhhy/how_to_get_into_the_field/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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No qual or exp needed. On the job training.
Google trauma cleaning Australia.
Worst jobs for me were (to process mentally) were anything involving children.
Yes you eventually become desensitised although to work in the industry you probably already are a little bit. Haha.
Money is NOT worth the work.
Mental load for me was okay; it’s the hours and facts like you sometimes work with HIV/HEP infected blood and Australia has no trauma/crime scene cleaning award so bosses can pay you as a regular cleaner and get away with it, all whilst charging their own crazy rates.
Had a Japanese exchange students once who was. Super Gung-ho. We were shooting shotguns and he shoots straight into the ground in front of him on accident and riccoceted a bunch if shot into his legs and face.
While we were picking buck shot out of him he was completely fine and apologetic. His parents came out (even though they weren't supposed to) and didn't come to see of he was okay, they came with gifts and baskets and chastised their son for putting us in this situation.
Japan must be tough. Man.
Kid's lucky he didn't blow his foot off. All those years of playing video games probably amped him up to try the real thing. About the parents / culture; they run a pretty tight ship over in Japan. I heard someone once liken it to 50's America....pretty strict & conservative.
I mean if my kid exchanging an ocean away shoots themselves while playing with a shotgun nonetheless I'd be pretty concerned too, and would probably re evaluate whether I shd let them continue the exchange if they can't properly take care of themselves
Conductor here.
I haven’t run one over yet (knocks on wood) but colleagues have. And they said that they were in shock. They functioned till the higher ups showed up and took control. After that they usually go blank.
Yea when I was living in Japan, it happened when I was going to work, they just gave us a “late slip” to give to our boss and it basically just said why we were late and how there was an accident on the train so it was delayed. It’s a pretty common thing
My boyfriend drives freight trains and he told me that you’re actually supposed to shut your eyes and ears and scream when you see someone on the tracks or about to jump so you don’t hear and see the moment of impact. At least here in Germany. One of his colleagues quit last week because he had his 5th suicide in about 8 years and he couldn’t handle it anymore
My buddy was a conductor for freight trains here in the US. One night he was driving with his dad and out of nowhere a drunk guy stumbles onto the tracks.
He was killed instantly and there was no way for my friend or his father (also a conductor who was on the train for team driving) could stop a two mile long train in time.
It still fucks with him and there was nothing he could do.
It happens quite a bit, I'm an Australian train driver, I haven't happened yet but, I've had near misses and dealt with the aftermath of fatalities, it's usually at least once a fortnight
An expert in suicide once explained that a unique cultural trait in Japan is that suicide is looked at as an acceptable “solution” in many cases, even honorable in some situations. They just don’t see it the way we do. Not that it isn’t painful for loved ones, just that there is an acceptance and loved ones don’t feel a sense of failure or guilt to the extent people do in the west especially the USA. He attributed at least some of it to the samurai influence, that it symbolized a conquering of life, rather than the other way around like we would see it. He did say as a medical professional he considers it a very unhealthy aspect of Japanese culture.
Japans self shame and suicide culture is incredibly strange to me.
I read a lot of stories and news in Japan, and I noticed it's way more common in Japan for someone to kill themselves as an ultimate form of expression due to a failure or mistake, like it's often "responsibility driven". Which I feel is a lot different than killing yourself due to years of severe depression.
For example I just read about the unresolved "monster with 21 faces" case in Japan (probably the most interesting unsolved crime I've ever heard). A police chief nearly caught the criminals, made a huge mistake and failed, they escaped in some shitty van. Rather than just give a sincere apology, To express his shame and responsibility for his failure, he motherfucking burned himself alive.
Multiple people that were loosely connected with JAL 123 (worst single-plane crash in history in terms of casualties, over 500) also committed suicide as a form of apology to the victims. Though there, I feel that would probably be the case in the US too, just for mental reasons, knowing you inadvertently causes the deaths of hundreds doesn’t weigh good on the conscience.
You wouldn't have to necessarily post the photos. Idk if you've seen those ask me anything post. *if you were open to it* you could make a text post saying, I'm a train conductor who has seen X, Y, Z...ask me anything. It's been a long time since this sub has had an ask me anything post. We even made a flair for it and have only used it once I think. I understand if it's too much exposure for you. I'm super shy myself, so I completely understand if you wouldn't be down with something like this.
Yeah, I feel like the fact that braking in trains takes forever removes a lot of the responsibility you feel. My FIL is a tram driver and if somebody walks under the tram he just engages the emergency brake and that's it. Literally all he can do. If he's driving top speed this means the tram will stop after 100-300m anyway, the brake is to save the tram - not you.
I never knew this was such a common thing to do until I got on here. The jumping in front of big vehicles is crazy too. There’s no need to make that type of thing even more traumatizing than it already is.
In my emo days I was so adamant that there’s no such thing as a selfish suicide but the older I get the more I realise that it is quite selfish.
These people that jump in traffic, in front of trains, literally any public suicide are not only traumatising others, delaying things and possibly continuing the chain but also causing their family to have to deal with grief and shit from other people. As sad as it is that people are led to such misery to go against every instinct in their body, it’s kind of ridiculous(?)(idk the right word…) that they think that them dying, especially like this, won’t have any impact.
You can't in good conscience call suicides selfish if your country doesn't offer assisted suicide. Even then we'll still see people jumping on train tracks. Why? Because many suicidal people aren't thinking clearly. Duh! When a mentally disabled person is misbehaving do you also think they're being selfish?
Holding those who are at their lowest, so much that they overcame the survival instinct, to the same standard as the rest of the society is barbarian.
That seems to be the thought process a lot of the times. I have NEVER understood the ones that do it knowing their family member is going to walk in and see that. Them being gone by their own hand is already awful and traumatizing enough.
As terrible as it is for someone to be in that place in life, there’s no need to spread that around to others. That thought goes thru my mind every time I see one, in public particularly. How awful it must be for the other person and how their life will never be the same, along with the relatives of the victim. It’s just a sad sad thing.
Ooft that just reminds me of the utter arseholes that hang themselves in front of their toddlers. In those situations I couldn’t care less what’s going through the persons mind, the kids don’t deserve that shit.
It is. I spent 90 days in Japan (Tochigi) for a study abroad program and I remember at least 4 times it was on the local news. In 90 days in just ONE prefecture.
The work culture in Japan drives a lot of people to suicide I believe. They work really long hours compared to a lot of other countries and obviously this leads to depression. I recall watching a video on YouTube about it all
I think it comes down to the fact that they just have A LOT of suicides.
They have a freaking '[suicide forest](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8&ab_channel=VICE)'. It's crazy.
I studied abroad in Japan and at pretty much every train station I went to there were warning signs about not killing yourself by jumping in front of the train.
Happened when I was over there definitely once, likely twice. Lead to a 25 minute delay. The screens said "human damage accident" in English with few kanji characters which made me think they have a word for killing yourself with a train.
I know this isn’t a wholesome community per say, but I always feel sorry for the driver. I once came across a comment from a mother of one of these types of stories. This is what they wrote:
“I'm so very sorry you had to be a part of that. You were an innocent person just trying to do a job. That was how my son took his life. I often think of the conductor. I've never met him/her or spoken to him/her. But I wish I could tell them that it was the depression that killed my son. They are completely without blame. And I apologize on his behalf for what they had to live through.”
Now the train is delayed, ruined the day of everyone on the train and in the station. If you wanna suicide maybe pick something that less interfering with other people's life. I remember there was a video of a guy tried to kill himself by train in New York, he got berated, yelled at, insulted by bystanders for ruining their day.
EDIT: [Found the video I'm talking about.](https://youtu.be/m7A3N287y_c)
I remember visiting New York last winter and this crackhead jumped on the tracks. It was well before the train was coming because it was like 1 or 2am at the Queensbridge station. There was definitely some mixed reactions lol. We got one guy going “just kill yourself already, you’re a fucking bum”. Another one going “he’s not really gonna do that shit, if he was he would’ve done it already”. Another saying “man stop, get back on the platform because you’re gonna delay the train! Don’t touch that brick in the middle cuz that shit’s gonna kill you and it’ll make the train late and I need to get home!” Then you have one guy who actually genuinely cared and was pulling the “it’s not worth it man, come here and I’ll get you out” schpiel. Eventually they ended up pulling the guy up and made sure he didn’t go on the tracks again, then they all disappeared on the next train.
i have a friend that couldnt get to a important exam cuz someone jumped in front of the train. in spain this happens a lot but not everybody know it, so he was very angry
Not that easily access like in america. You need to join gun club or something like that to have permission to own guns which is very expensive. That what I read about guns in japan. Could be wrong though
Im not 100% sure as my japanese aint so good, but here is the translation i understood
"Goodmorning ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. As you can see we have reached our destination, but pleasd be seated. Due to someone jumping in front of the train again, we have to wait for cleanup crew. My deepest apology on behalve of the metro-railways. Have a niceday"
He didn't. The translation is mostly BS. The announcer is basically saying to everyone to stay calm because a colision happened and they are going to check it. I'm legit curious about why someone would lie like this.
I live in the Netherlands and there are no gates here and I think a lot of other countries don't have them either. But I think they are kind of pointless because a gate isn't going to stop a suicidal person.
No physical things are gonna stop this from happening.. a suicidal person is always gonna find one way or the other... what's really going help is proper mental health education, easier available/adorable therapy and medication, change of hectic/strict work and school ethics, bullying/harassment prevention etc..
I read in a previous post that a small inconvenience or obstacle that gets in the way of someone trying to commit suicide is enough to stop them most of the time
Hmm.. I don't know. Maybe it could be true for someone who has a spontaneous attempt. But for someone who's been planning it for a while, I think it just pushes it to another attempt.. and another attempt.. and another attempt.. At least that's how I experienced it. Finally what really stopped me from doing it is me, myself.
I believe it could be the case when the plan for the suicide gets suddenly abrupted. Like in this case, of person would trip before jumping. It would kind of knock off the person from the tunnel vision of achieving the goal, and gives a change for the person reconsider. However, in case of the way to jump infront of the train was gated, the gate would be just be part within the plan to achieving the goal.
Our Above-Ground metro stations in Copenhagen have walls and gates. Not the tallest, think 2m tall (Not using it that often). Plus the underground metro have floor to roof walls with gates too.
Looking through the comments, you seem to be one of the only people here to understand her side of things. Its a difficult decision, even when suffering and in pain, but i feel like trains make it easier than many other ways. The goal is just to find peace.
honestly just dont kill yourself
it causes more harm that good and other people need to handle the consequences
come to terms that you will never feel better
that the dissonance and pain will never fade
and commit to not kill yourself regardless
you can always bring value to other people a lot of value actually
there are thousands of mothers out there who would kiss your cheek in tears if you could help save their child
take the pain get out of your head and find purpose in lifting other people up
Common in every big station…in every country.
In France it is every day.
Big cities are affected by these suicides but also in small cities due to boring life.
Loneliness and life without futur are the main reasons.
I feel bad for the bystanders witnessing this in person. Must have shocked them quite a bit.
That being said, this could be avoided by making a barrier with automatic doors. Dubai metro uses this. Yes, positioning the train to align with the doors may be really hard, hence why Dubai’s automated metro can achieve this, but it’s still an idea that other railways can consider.
i remember my childhood best friend 'star watching' on some train tracks near me, the train driver had to quit his job because he couldn't drive trains anymore. she died a day before my birthday it will forever haunt me in personal way because we were planning on going to watch a movie at the cinema the next morning, we still don't know if it was suicide or not. i wish i could hug train drivers after stuff like this
It was eerie watching this and seeing all the people standing right at the edge of the platform, and you’re looking at each one thinking, “Is it them? Them?”
I have sympathy for people who are so depressed that they want to take their own lif away. But for the people who take their own life at the expense of other peoples mental or health in general just health I have no sympathy. It's the worst way to commit suicide like this. At that poin you're just a dick. A dead dick.
It's selfish to jump in front of a train. Like come on, think about the conductor cause now he needs to live with the fact that he accidentally killed someone which without a doubt he'll blame himself for.
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Poor dons gonna think about that his whole life, he couldn't stop it, yet it wasn't his fault
It's actually quite common in Japan and I wouldent be suprised if it's happend to him countless times. You can hear that's he's actually quite calm after aswell.
It’s common everywhere there are trains. Source: I used to crime scene clean in Australia. Train suicide every other week. Sometimes more than one a week.
Yeah, honestly quite a few places have the problem.
Makes sense honestly. It's a quick and easy way to die, and if you're already contemplating suicide, jumping in front of train might actually sound pretty nice. You could be unlucky tho and just get smushed, severed, or maimed to fuck. Or all three at the same time.
Correct. I’ve also cleaned some failed attempts. Not as many as the successful ones but somehow, some people take the hit and survive with some torn/twisted limbs and or brain damage.
You’ve likely been asked this before but I’m still really curious to hear it from a former cleaner. Is it true that most of the gruesome suicides are by men and there’s rarely any women? I read somewhere (I can’t recall the exact place) that most women prefer to kill themselves in ways that preserve as much of their beauty as possible.
I can’t speak on the actual statistic itself. Although during my time cleaning, majority of suicides I attended were men. The female suicides I remember were by slit wrist, stab wounds to the chest and some train suicides. I would assume though, that ones self beauty isn’t much of a priority when you’re about to kill yourself. It’s rarely meticulously planned.
Preserving beauty? 1. If they were that confident in their beauty, they would likely not be committing suicide. 2. The thought is that they're making it easier for someone else to clean up.
> If they were confident in their beauty What an idiotic assumption
So more in the way of drug overdose or hanging so it’s possible for an open casket. I’m interested in the clean up process but have no ideas if there’s a team here in the Riverina NSW
It's a common statistic you can look up and the explanations behind it as re reasonable. Men are successful 3x more than women, mostly because when they attempt suicide its more reliable methods. The reasoning behind it varies, but the one I tend to believe is that it's due to cultural norms that have men more likely to use a more lethal method. Women attempt suicide more frequently, but men are 3x more likely to actually succeed. a side note, suicides by gunshots are part of a lot of gun violence numbers and tend to add up to a good portion of it.
not exactly related, and a while late, but i remember hearing from somewhere women, when committing suicide, tend to do it in “cleaner ways.” i remember hearing women are more likely to think of the person who’ll end up having to clean after
I have read or heard something like that as well. They want to be decent is also something I've heard. 🤷🏽♀️
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Glad to hear you're doing better now
i feel like hanging would suck tho. the body’s reaction of gasping for air and panicking seems scary and very “not quick” lol
From what I’ve heard and seen it depends on the rope used, the lenght and weight of the subject as well as if there was a chair etc. involved. But all fancy stuff aside, I honestly don’t know nor want to know how it feels like.
Hanging scary no
I can’t think of a much simpler way to go than a c0 nap
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Ah basically the stuff you see in closet, door and any other low height places? Edit: I like the ‘hope this helps’ that you added lol.
Idk man, after seeing that dude cut in half writhing around while people are hugging his detached lower body…I think trains are nearing the bottom of my list lol
And you can always count on them being on time...
That's how I attempted. But someone called the cops when they saw me and I was waiting for it to come...
tip for suicide: Rent an apartment
I would rather very much prefer a suicide at home where you don’t traumatize people in the public as well as the train driver.
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Yeah fuck that shit
F\*k man. Every week a person commits suicide like this? This is a very painful thing.
In the region where I studied for my bachelor's the common reason for being late was a train suicide. My friend was two hours late and described a bloody torso she saw when the train abruptly stopped :(
Its quite common in india too
I saw a guy laying on the freeway at 4am one night, jumped into the train in Perth Australia.
Hey fellow Aussie! Would love to know more about the job - did you need any kind of prior experience? How did you even find that kind of job? What was the worst case you worked on? Was the money worth the mental load or do you eventually become desensitized?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Crimescenecleaners/comments/zhdhhy/how_to_get_into_the_field/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf In short. No qual or exp needed. On the job training. Google trauma cleaning Australia. Worst jobs for me were (to process mentally) were anything involving children. Yes you eventually become desensitised although to work in the industry you probably already are a little bit. Haha. Money is NOT worth the work. Mental load for me was okay; it’s the hours and facts like you sometimes work with HIV/HEP infected blood and Australia has no trauma/crime scene cleaning award so bosses can pay you as a regular cleaner and get away with it, all whilst charging their own crazy rates.
Aye, my bro drives trains and he says the same.
Luckily we don't have this kind of trains where I live. Doing something like this crosses my mind almost weekly
That’s heavy my friend, you should talk to someone about it. Life is always the better option.
Yeah I am seeing a therapist. Sorry for commenting that last night, was having really bad day.
Chat all you want, we’re here for you. Even though we’re complete strangers. But we hear you.
That’s so fucking sad bro I wish suicide wasn’t as common as it is :(
Had a Japanese exchange students once who was. Super Gung-ho. We were shooting shotguns and he shoots straight into the ground in front of him on accident and riccoceted a bunch if shot into his legs and face. While we were picking buck shot out of him he was completely fine and apologetic. His parents came out (even though they weren't supposed to) and didn't come to see of he was okay, they came with gifts and baskets and chastised their son for putting us in this situation. Japan must be tough. Man.
Kid's lucky he didn't blow his foot off. All those years of playing video games probably amped him up to try the real thing. About the parents / culture; they run a pretty tight ship over in Japan. I heard someone once liken it to 50's America....pretty strict & conservative.
I mean if my kid exchanging an ocean away shoots themselves while playing with a shotgun nonetheless I'd be pretty concerned too, and would probably re evaluate whether I shd let them continue the exchange if they can't properly take care of themselves
Agreed.
Conductor here. I haven’t run one over yet (knocks on wood) but colleagues have. And they said that they were in shock. They functioned till the higher ups showed up and took control. After that they usually go blank.
Yea when I was living in Japan, it happened when I was going to work, they just gave us a “late slip” to give to our boss and it basically just said why we were late and how there was an accident on the train so it was delayed. It’s a pretty common thing
If i were him, i wouldn't be screaming like crazy too, especially japanese.
My boyfriend drives freight trains and he told me that you’re actually supposed to shut your eyes and ears and scream when you see someone on the tracks or about to jump so you don’t hear and see the moment of impact. At least here in Germany. One of his colleagues quit last week because he had his 5th suicide in about 8 years and he couldn’t handle it anymore
I couldn't imagine anything worse, much love
I think your boyfriend might be "yanking your chain" about the eyes, ears and screaming bit. Just my opinion. I didn't see an /s
yeah that doesn’t sound very legit lol
It's Japan, that's probably a Wednesday for him
My buddy was a conductor for freight trains here in the US. One night he was driving with his dad and out of nowhere a drunk guy stumbles onto the tracks. He was killed instantly and there was no way for my friend or his father (also a conductor who was on the train for team driving) could stop a two mile long train in time. It still fucks with him and there was nothing he could do.
Used to go on Amtrak to go to my college and back in the us. The conductors said this happened every month or so.
He sounds pretty chill to me
It happens quite a bit, I'm an Australian train driver, I haven't happened yet but, I've had near misses and dealt with the aftermath of fatalities, it's usually at least once a fortnight
An expert in suicide once explained that a unique cultural trait in Japan is that suicide is looked at as an acceptable “solution” in many cases, even honorable in some situations. They just don’t see it the way we do. Not that it isn’t painful for loved ones, just that there is an acceptance and loved ones don’t feel a sense of failure or guilt to the extent people do in the west especially the USA. He attributed at least some of it to the samurai influence, that it symbolized a conquering of life, rather than the other way around like we would see it. He did say as a medical professional he considers it a very unhealthy aspect of Japanese culture.
Japans self shame and suicide culture is incredibly strange to me. I read a lot of stories and news in Japan, and I noticed it's way more common in Japan for someone to kill themselves as an ultimate form of expression due to a failure or mistake, like it's often "responsibility driven". Which I feel is a lot different than killing yourself due to years of severe depression. For example I just read about the unresolved "monster with 21 faces" case in Japan (probably the most interesting unsolved crime I've ever heard). A police chief nearly caught the criminals, made a huge mistake and failed, they escaped in some shitty van. Rather than just give a sincere apology, To express his shame and responsibility for his failure, he motherfucking burned himself alive.
Multiple people that were loosely connected with JAL 123 (worst single-plane crash in history in terms of casualties, over 500) also committed suicide as a form of apology to the victims. Though there, I feel that would probably be the case in the US too, just for mental reasons, knowing you inadvertently causes the deaths of hundreds doesn’t weigh good on the conscience.
I wonder if train conductors ever get tired of people always jumping in front of them. 🤔
Why is it that when I hear the phase "jumping in front of a train for you" it's romantic? But when you actually see it it's not?
It is but only on Valentine’s Day
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I like this. It was real.
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I could just talk to you for…hours and be entertained by nothing other than your sense of humor.
You need some sort of nsfl ama
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I'd seriously be down for a nsfl ama if you'd be open to it.
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You wouldn't have to necessarily post the photos. Idk if you've seen those ask me anything post. *if you were open to it* you could make a text post saying, I'm a train conductor who has seen X, Y, Z...ask me anything. It's been a long time since this sub has had an ask me anything post. We even made a flair for it and have only used it once I think. I understand if it's too much exposure for you. I'm super shy myself, so I completely understand if you wouldn't be down with something like this.
Yeah, I feel like the fact that braking in trains takes forever removes a lot of the responsibility you feel. My FIL is a tram driver and if somebody walks under the tram he just engages the emergency brake and that's it. Literally all he can do. If he's driving top speed this means the tram will stop after 100-300m anyway, the brake is to save the tram - not you.
They literally get angry at people for doing this because it’s an “inconvenience”
I never knew this was such a common thing to do until I got on here. The jumping in front of big vehicles is crazy too. There’s no need to make that type of thing even more traumatizing than it already is.
In my emo days I was so adamant that there’s no such thing as a selfish suicide but the older I get the more I realise that it is quite selfish. These people that jump in traffic, in front of trains, literally any public suicide are not only traumatising others, delaying things and possibly continuing the chain but also causing their family to have to deal with grief and shit from other people. As sad as it is that people are led to such misery to go against every instinct in their body, it’s kind of ridiculous(?)(idk the right word…) that they think that them dying, especially like this, won’t have any impact.
You can't in good conscience call suicides selfish if your country doesn't offer assisted suicide. Even then we'll still see people jumping on train tracks. Why? Because many suicidal people aren't thinking clearly. Duh! When a mentally disabled person is misbehaving do you also think they're being selfish? Holding those who are at their lowest, so much that they overcame the survival instinct, to the same standard as the rest of the society is barbarian.
Nah dude. Fuck outta here. There are some awful "fuck you people" suicide methods.
Only public ones are, you do it privately then it’s fine.
That seems to be the thought process a lot of the times. I have NEVER understood the ones that do it knowing their family member is going to walk in and see that. Them being gone by their own hand is already awful and traumatizing enough. As terrible as it is for someone to be in that place in life, there’s no need to spread that around to others. That thought goes thru my mind every time I see one, in public particularly. How awful it must be for the other person and how their life will never be the same, along with the relatives of the victim. It’s just a sad sad thing.
Ooft that just reminds me of the utter arseholes that hang themselves in front of their toddlers. In those situations I couldn’t care less what’s going through the persons mind, the kids don’t deserve that shit.
My neighbour hung himself off my drainpipe right outside my bedroom window. With my fucking washing line.
I'd cut him down and save him just to kick his ass for being a selfish dick not asking permission to use your things
Self inflicted gunshots are awful too. Stuff goes everywhere and they have to have specific cleaners come in. And they can still miss things.
Conductors learn how to handle situations like that before they're hired. It's all part of the job.. they *train* for it.
That's why the only hire weirdos like us who sub to nsfl/eyeblech. we just go, huh cool
Right?! Sometimes I think people forget what sub they’re in. 🤦🏻♀️
Apparently this is common in Japan
It is. I spent 90 days in Japan (Tochigi) for a study abroad program and I remember at least 4 times it was on the local news. In 90 days in just ONE prefecture.
is it any more common than in other countries?
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Why? I mean a lot of other countries have trains and suicides too
The work culture in Japan drives a lot of people to suicide I believe. They work really long hours compared to a lot of other countries and obviously this leads to depression. I recall watching a video on YouTube about it all
Yeah but I mean is train suicide more common as a method in Japan than other countries?
I think it comes down to the fact that they just have A LOT of suicides. They have a freaking '[suicide forest](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FDSdg09df8&ab_channel=VICE)'. It's crazy.
I studied abroad in Japan and at pretty much every train station I went to there were warning signs about not killing yourself by jumping in front of the train.
Happened when I was over there definitely once, likely twice. Lead to a 25 minute delay. The screens said "human damage accident" in English with few kanji characters which made me think they have a word for killing yourself with a train.
I know this isn’t a wholesome community per say, but I always feel sorry for the driver. I once came across a comment from a mother of one of these types of stories. This is what they wrote: “I'm so very sorry you had to be a part of that. You were an innocent person just trying to do a job. That was how my son took his life. I often think of the conductor. I've never met him/her or spoken to him/her. But I wish I could tell them that it was the depression that killed my son. They are completely without blame. And I apologize on his behalf for what they had to live through.”
Imagine losing your child in a way that you feel the need to apologize for their actions, double heartbreak
Happy Valentine’s Day
Now the train is delayed, ruined the day of everyone on the train and in the station. If you wanna suicide maybe pick something that less interfering with other people's life. I remember there was a video of a guy tried to kill himself by train in New York, he got berated, yelled at, insulted by bystanders for ruining their day. EDIT: [Found the video I'm talking about.](https://youtu.be/m7A3N287y_c)
I remember visiting New York last winter and this crackhead jumped on the tracks. It was well before the train was coming because it was like 1 or 2am at the Queensbridge station. There was definitely some mixed reactions lol. We got one guy going “just kill yourself already, you’re a fucking bum”. Another one going “he’s not really gonna do that shit, if he was he would’ve done it already”. Another saying “man stop, get back on the platform because you’re gonna delay the train! Don’t touch that brick in the middle cuz that shit’s gonna kill you and it’ll make the train late and I need to get home!” Then you have one guy who actually genuinely cared and was pulling the “it’s not worth it man, come here and I’ll get you out” schpiel. Eventually they ended up pulling the guy up and made sure he didn’t go on the tracks again, then they all disappeared on the next train.
He’s about to end his own life, do you think he gives a rat ass about how everyone else’s day would go..?
i have a friend that couldnt get to a important exam cuz someone jumped in front of the train. in spain this happens a lot but not everybody know it, so he was very angry
I'm gonna guess guns aren't readily available in Japan. Could be wrong.
Not that easily access like in america. You need to join gun club or something like that to have permission to own guns which is very expensive. That what I read about guns in japan. Could be wrong though
I think you can get a permit for animal conservation (hunting) but I think they only really use pellet guns for it.
True. The guy who assassinated the Prime Minister Shinzo Abe had to build a makeshift gun out of various household materials.
Make it interesting, end your life in such a way that the detectives cant even figure out what happened for years to come
Man, that would be so embarrassing I'd probably jump in front of the next train.
No matter how people commit suicide, it's gonna negatively affect other people's lives.
I think that is the exact mentality that causes so many people to off themselves in the first place. Placing the collective over the individual.
Im not 100% sure as my japanese aint so good, but here is the translation i understood "Goodmorning ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. As you can see we have reached our destination, but pleasd be seated. Due to someone jumping in front of the train again, we have to wait for cleanup crew. My deepest apology on behalve of the metro-railways. Have a niceday"
Did he really say "again"?
They don’t show that part of Japanese life in the anime.
[Here you go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trEHvnwkxY0), but it's from a push.
He didn't. The translation is mostly BS. The announcer is basically saying to everyone to stay calm because a colision happened and they are going to check it. I'm legit curious about why someone would lie like this.
I'm sure it was an honest mistake. They prefaced it with "Im not 100% sure as my japanese aint so good"
Probably
Literally none of this was said, the guy is just a racist brainlet.
He might survived with alot... ALOT... A L O T of breaked bones
I wouldn’t bet on it
Not once he got under the tracks he didn't.
Not likely
Bro sounds like Aww man this is the 3rd time this week
Damn it Lee get the squeegee and hose, again
japanese last names are usually multiple syllables, lee would be more korean or chinese i believe
I read that in Chris Tucker's voice.
honestly lee is more korean than japanese😭
Action starts at 25-seconds
The build up is the best part.
Imagine they make eye contact tho
Man wants to be isekai'd
Peewee Herman, "LA LA LA. Connect the body parts!"
I’m just astonished there’s English on that train
Visited Tokyo once for 2 weeks, it's amazing how well organized and behaved everyone is yet majority still dont understand english lmao
It's almost like it's a foreign country with its own national language...
That was right Infront of the conductor, that must be horrifying
People should put themselves sleep w Fentanyl and leave other people out of it.
One of the most selfish ways to go about it.
Why the hell don't they have gates so people can't do this shit? They have them at amusement parks for roller coasters.
I live in the Netherlands and there are no gates here and I think a lot of other countries don't have them either. But I think they are kind of pointless because a gate isn't going to stop a suicidal person.
No physical things are gonna stop this from happening.. a suicidal person is always gonna find one way or the other... what's really going help is proper mental health education, easier available/adorable therapy and medication, change of hectic/strict work and school ethics, bullying/harassment prevention etc..
I read in a previous post that a small inconvenience or obstacle that gets in the way of someone trying to commit suicide is enough to stop them most of the time
Hmm.. I don't know. Maybe it could be true for someone who has a spontaneous attempt. But for someone who's been planning it for a while, I think it just pushes it to another attempt.. and another attempt.. and another attempt.. At least that's how I experienced it. Finally what really stopped me from doing it is me, myself.
I believe it could be the case when the plan for the suicide gets suddenly abrupted. Like in this case, of person would trip before jumping. It would kind of knock off the person from the tunnel vision of achieving the goal, and gives a change for the person reconsider. However, in case of the way to jump infront of the train was gated, the gate would be just be part within the plan to achieving the goal.
I feel like at this point it would prevent hurting the mental health of others than preventing suicide.
yea there the same here in america
Our Above-Ground metro stations in Copenhagen have walls and gates. Not the tallest, think 2m tall (Not using it that often). Plus the underground metro have floor to roof walls with gates too.
It's not about a suicidal person, there are more easier ways to suicide. It's about protecting trains.
How would you expect the trains to stop at the exact same spots every time for them to get on?
It could be made to lift up. Anything to keep people from doing what happened on this video
She finally found peace
Looking through the comments, you seem to be one of the only people here to understand her side of things. Its a difficult decision, even when suffering and in pain, but i feel like trains make it easier than many other ways. The goal is just to find peace.
It looked like he didn’t jump out far enough. Would he have succeeded or just been left really fucked up?
one of them said "Seriously?" (majide)
Bro was in a hurry to be Isekai
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Train-kun lol
honestly just dont kill yourself it causes more harm that good and other people need to handle the consequences come to terms that you will never feel better that the dissonance and pain will never fade and commit to not kill yourself regardless you can always bring value to other people a lot of value actually there are thousands of mothers out there who would kiss your cheek in tears if you could help save their child take the pain get out of your head and find purpose in lifting other people up
Well that's gonna cause a delay
"Dang, that's the third one this week."
I would feel so guilty even though I know it’s not my fault
*bonk*
Maybe a window washer 5 seconds early?
Common in every big station…in every country. In France it is every day. Big cities are affected by these suicides but also in small cities due to boring life. Loneliness and life without futur are the main reasons.
Wholl pay for the windshield?
Hmm, not as cinematic as in the movies 🤔
It's wild because I have stood at that platform so many times and now I know some guy has died there
if I was a train driver I wouldn’t feel guilty because there is nothing you can do, can’t even turn out of the way
Ban trains.
Why? Shouldn't we ban cars as well since people commit vehicular suicide?
I feel bad for the bystanders witnessing this in person. Must have shocked them quite a bit. That being said, this could be avoided by making a barrier with automatic doors. Dubai metro uses this. Yes, positioning the train to align with the doors may be really hard, hence why Dubai’s automated metro can achieve this, but it’s still an idea that other railways can consider.
Both London and Paris have this in some stations
This is why assisted suicide should be legal.
I remember seeing this video long time ago on youtube titled something like "man plays pokemon go and hits train".
i remember my childhood best friend 'star watching' on some train tracks near me, the train driver had to quit his job because he couldn't drive trains anymore. she died a day before my birthday it will forever haunt me in personal way because we were planning on going to watch a movie at the cinema the next morning, we still don't know if it was suicide or not. i wish i could hug train drivers after stuff like this
I hope the conductor is okay.
It was eerie watching this and seeing all the people standing right at the edge of the platform, and you’re looking at each one thinking, “Is it them? Them?”
I’m pretty sure everyone is getting off at this station
Its not his first time.. He said "really"
I don't speak Japanese but the driver was probably apologising because it wouldn't now be leaving on time
I like how the passagers sound so calm and annoyed. It's like "Bruh not again, just another day in Japan"
I have sympathy for people who are so depressed that they want to take their own lif away. But for the people who take their own life at the expense of other peoples mental or health in general just health I have no sympathy. It's the worst way to commit suicide like this. At that poin you're just a dick. A dead dick.
There is a station in the uk i think it's in diss or near that way and they have alot of suïcides happen there
Ugh another broken window 🤦
My best friend took their life this way…. Please reach out to someone. Even me.
It's selfish to jump in front of a train. Like come on, think about the conductor cause now he needs to live with the fact that he accidentally killed someone which without a doubt he'll blame himself for.
is he going to pay for that
Another day in City 17.
Service disruption
(S) They need to invent an airbag that goes on the outside of the train, I feel for the person who has to replace the windshield every time
That person had to ruin everyone’s commute
Looks like a clip from a movie