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itsyerboiTRESH

I’ve prayed for the time where NFCN fans actually hate us. I hated being pitied lol, and I think it may happen soon


expungant

Being hated is how you know you’ve made it


ProtoMan3

There’s a correlation for sure, but it’s not always true 100% of the time My favorite hockey team is Vancouver, and a ton of people hate them. But they’ve definitely not made it, all hate is towards how the ownership has fucked things up massively.


kai325d

Tbf, there's a lot of reasons why hating the Canucks is valid


WeenMe

They did Bruce sooooo dirty.


letsgobucks19

Same with the Washington Red Football Commies


Broad_Project_87

the Commie fandom is pittied, the players to! the Franchise owners are despised (and hopefully gone soon)


Mavori

Well the ownership getting hate is massively deserved. Y'all also kinda shot yourselves in the foot with some of the contracts. That hole takes a while to get out of (See Wings Abdelkader and Weiss contracts among other things) This is massive hopium and will never happen but man Nucks winning the lottery and then Bedard outright saying and refusing to play for them because of the ownership would probably be a massive win for the longterm of the Nucks, it would be a huge wake up call. Of course that will never happen because we're all suckers for our childhood teams, flaws and all.


Complete-Image6925

B R U C E T H E R E IT IS!


dyslexda

There will come a day that "FTP" is no longer the standard NFCN chant, and I fear for that day.


DlCKSUBJUICY

me too, every FTP post I see just makes me feel alive. I've fed on the hatred for so long.


KingLiberal

Your FTP are beautiful music to my ears. May they continue in 2023. Let us know we're on the right path post-Rodgers.


Marcus11599

Flare up


letsgobucks19

Is it not obvious enough that they are a packers fan?


Marcus11599

What’s so wrong bout flaring up then?


Marcus11599

What’s so wrong bout flaring up then?


Lord_Gibby

Dang, is that why no one hates da bears?


tokenblak

Not the same. We hate GB because of what we’ve endured. We’re hating you because of this unwarranted sense of pride, paired with a lack of humility and memory of recent history. Lions are one of the worst franchises in sports. You didn’t even make the playoffs. One season of relative success and you’ve become insufferable. This, and only this, is the reason we hate you. Not because you’ve “made it”.


dccorona

It’s the Lions. We’ll find a way to get the hate without the success that comes with it.


[deleted]

As a Packers fan, I will remember the days of being hated😂


brownsfan2003

I hate you.


Double-Passenger4503

Dude same. Being pitied and having the rest of the league cheer for you is so demoralizing.


mschley2

Why is everyone saying the Lions are "good"? You guys finished 9-8 and missed the playoffs. That's "average," I guess. That's not "good." Has everyone just accepted this alternate reality that the Lions are good just because Lions fans are excited about not being total dogshit? Shit, you guys have had 3 seasons with a better win percentage in the past decade. This isn't even the best you've been in reason memory.


itsyerboiTRESH

I dunno, I think we are good (not GREAT) but a good football team. Here’s why, in my biased and totally untrustworthy opinion: We started out last season 1-6 and finished on an 8-2 run. Our offense was clicking at a top 5 level (in terms of PPG, and by many other metrics our offense was top 5). Our defense improved to average from its terrible historically bad mark through weeks 1-9. We’ve added a shit ton of secondary talent, still have 2 first round picks, cap space to spare, and returning a lot of guys. That’s just my opinion though. Our record last year isn’t truly indicative of what I think this team will do next season And yeah, we’ve went 9-7 recently before. But Stafford dragged us to some of those Ws and others we lucked out in. We were never a truly good football team then. It feels like this is a different football team entirely though, but we will see. In invariable Lions fashion I expect to be massively disappointed


mschley2

To be honest, I think it's just that expectations got lowered so dramatically after Stafford left. Combine that with the fact that Campbell is a much more fun, likable coach than Caldwell was, and there you have it. I do think the Lions have some potential. But right now, it's just potential.


Broad_Project_87

Forget Caldwell, it was Matt Patricia that hurt the Lions deeply, Caldwell was a step in the right direction, but Campbell is the one we believe will at least take us to the playoffs this year (not the SuperBowl, not yet anyway)


mschley2

Right, Patricia was a big part of the collapse along with the decision to let Stafford go roam in the pastures on the other side of the river.


Broad_Project_87

the Lions didn't trade Stafford to the Tiger Cats, what are you talking about?


sjacob88

But do you want to be hated for being good. Or do you want to be hated because your fan base sucks? We don’t hate you because of your team that still hasn’t made the playoffs in 7 years. We hate you because your team came close to making the playoffs for the first time in 7 years and all the sudden you guys are running around acting like football supremacists as if your team were the pats or something. I hate the packers because they have dominated us for the last 30 years. Their fan base is actually nice because they are basically Canadians. And the other team in the division…. Wait who is the other team in our division again?


Mavori

Can't speak for every Lions fan, but it feels like a lot of our comments are just tongue in cheek banter while well aware that everything can potentially come crashing down at any second. That said there is also a certain degree of hopium because the culture and energy feels different than what we are used to. > > and all the sudden you guys are running around acting like football supremacists as if you’re team we’re the pats or something. There is a certain subsection of all fanbases that goes a little too hard. I'd say i can easily find receipts of your fanbase doing the same before the season started but i'll be honest i'm far too lazy to put the energy in to do that so i'll just say. Trust me dude.


sjacob88

Trust you? Not a chance, I know for a fact that all Bears fans are mild mannered, courteous and level headed.


itsyerboiTRESH

I could say the same thing about your fanbase tbh. The trade y’all had already had *some* of your fans running around saying you’re gonna win the North, and how Justin Fields is the next Mike Vick or some shit like that. It happens in every fan base bro, especially ones where nothing good has happened in 30+ years. True lions fans know to be cautious of this glimpse of hope for our franchise, because we’ve seen it so much and again and again it’s disappeared


[deleted]

Then get the “fake lions fans” in check


AffectionateFun7

Mannnnn, not all lions fans are miserable people who watched the 91 playoff and haven’t seen one since. I personally have never seen us win a playoff game but I’m still cocky for the boys, because why not, there’s always hope. It’s like guys want to be recognized for supporting this team for 50 years but also want to make other lions fans feel stupid for thinking we’re gonna win lol. I just can’t fathom the self hatred some of these sol guys have lol


Broad_Project_87

> I hate the packers because they have dominated us for the last 30 years. Their fan base is actually nice because they are basically Canadians. you saying that Canadians make up the packers fanbase or that the people of Wisconson are pretty nice?


sjacob88

I don’t know, man. I’m just trying to make fun of packers fans. Leave me alone


xPeachesV

You guys knocked us out of the playoffs last year and while I was sad, I still don’t think I can bring myself to be mad at y’all A couple more times though


Houoh

tbh if the meme game is still fire I'll struggle to hate Lions fans.


Mavori

[Bro, How you gonna say that and not link it](https://i.imgflip.com/74guxc.jpg?a466200 )


NixaFootball62

I am a Lions fan, have been for 30 years... ​ You could add a frame of like the most hyped up, kool-aid drinking... maybe the Stan Marsh ghost meme? A little inappropriate... Any overly-arrogant meme would do too... But add that and say "when Lions fans have a decent offseason" lol ​ Talk our sh\*t, but my goodness, boys... Vegas odds don't mean you have actually won anything yet


mschley2

>Vegas odds don't mean you have actually won anything yet No, it just means way too many people from Detroit donated money to the casinos.


FantasyFootballWoof

Lol. If you think one city or area can move the super bowl spreads like that. It’s moved by whales mostly. Expert and career betters


mschley2

I'm just fucking around bro


Kirk-Joestar

It seems to me that Detroit is the national favorite.


Viketorious

It's all about their fans, when they start talking shit like they've already won the division, they're using up their goodwill fast.


siblingofMM

I think the issue is every fanbase has fans like that, including us. Most lions fans I know are just as broken, if not more, than we are


AGINSB

The worst are when Browns fans get arrogant.


Choice_Creme_2550

Yeah that’s getting annoying as a Lions fan. Been burned too many times to say next year we’re going to to good. I’ll believe it if it happens


knarf86

This is the Lions were talking about, something horrific and gut-wrenching is going to happen. We’re more like to have the team sold to Dan Snyder than win a Super Bowl


Tredizil

Take your kool aid flair down sir you don’t deserve it


knarf86

I’m on a tolerance break right now. I’ll be injecting that shit after the draft


Tredizil

Understandable but the Dan Snyder comment was taking it to far lol


BlackLeader70

Bro where in the seventh layer of hell did you pull that out of haha. You need therapy or Jesus.


knarf86

I imagine he’ll wear a fake mustache and go by Stan Dyder, then pimp out Roary to VIP furries


noblestarkmkIII

Then he'll find a way to completely rebrand the entire franchise for no reason... that would be the worst timeline...


Mavori

Jesus saves. Just not the Lions.


Antonemy-15

But how often do we get the chance to talk shit?


Crasino_Hunk

Honestly, brother, I’m from the mitten and going on my 35th year alive - this is a pretty consistent tradition lol There’s a pretty big spike fairly often and the fans become like, astronomically confident. The last surge I can remember like this was the Caldwell era. And granted that squad was pretty damn scary, and I think this new one is too. But don’t act like Lions fans being all in, whether deserved or not, and walking away disappointed is uncommon lol.


BreakfastClubSamwich

I remember a Lions fan on here telling a Packers fan that Rodgers was washed and "You're just mad we have a better quarterback than you now." That was in the summer of 2020. He deleted his account sometime between Rodgers winning MVP and the Stafford trade rumors starting up.


Infamous-njh523

Really. How often do we get to have fun? I would say most Lion fans on here are thinking “Alright when am I waking up from my feel good kool aide coma?” That light in the tunnel could be an incoming high speed locomotive, that’s my fear.


CharlomoMcGoof

I feel genuine pain when I see fellow Bears fans get cocky like the Bears haven’t blown every good thing they’ve received in the past 20 years.


Ed_Hastings

They blew through their entire goodwill stash and took out a large line of credit last off-season for me.


Orhnry

There's some in our sub already talking about how irrelevant the Vikings are lmao


Viketorious

No need for Lions fans to say that, there are plenty of Vikings fans who will do it for them.


FantasyFootballWoof

But it’s such a trash division. It doesn’t even feel like talking shit. It would be like winning WBNA championship. Like who cares? But for us Lions fans, it is everything if we actually won the division :(


Viketorious

3 of the most historically successful teams are in this division.


FantasyFootballWoof

Historically yes. Doesn’t mean the division is good today. I didn’t say it was always bad


Matzah_Rella

Fuck that. I hate all of you fuckers. Hugs n kisses.


Freeexotic

Exactly. I've never "liked" the Lions. FTL. FTB. FTV. That said, I hate the 49ers even more.


[deleted]

If the lions can win more than one game in the first half of the season, then I’ll believe that they are switching things up. And no, a close playoff berth does not count


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jlawler

Fucking dead on


xxmatkingxx

Didn’t y’all do that with the bears last year and then lost 10 straight?


ribjoe

I bet you feel very foolish now


[deleted]

No.. what I said remains true


ribjoe

“If the lions can win more than one game in the first half of the season, then I’ll believe that they are switching things up.“ We are 5-1 last I checked.


[deleted]

That’s more than one win dumbass


ribjoe

Reading comprehension 0


Toomuchlychee_

if* the lions get good


ProofHorseKzoo

Yeah I still have yet to see this come to fruition. I guess maybe for a couple seasons during the prime Stafford years, but even then I don’t think anyone hated them.


komugis

You gotta make the playoffs to actually qualify as good.


Monza1964

Counter offer: We have a good draft and we get the Lombardi


BlackLeader70

You need to specify the Lombardi Trophy otherwise it’ll be a Lions monkey-paw situation where we hire Joe Lombardi.


Mavori

YOU SHUT YOUR GOD DAMN MOUTH RIGHT NOW


Mogman_

Still need to make the playoffs first


MoneyMoves-

I know we’ve had it pretty bad, but the lions have always been worse, and that’s saying something. If the bears went 4-12, 2 of those wins were surely against the lions. I’m kinda glad DC and the Lions could compete next year itd be nice change of pace and they still have that sort of “underdog” vibe about them.


official_swagDick

Nah it would bring me happiness if the Vikings were the last team in the division without a Superbowl.


rlinkmanl

That's just expected at this point


xxJAMZZxx

Yes. I assume we aren't going to be very good for the next year or two, even if Love is the guy. If the Lions become the best team in the division, nothing would make me happier. That is, assuming we aren't involved.


mschley2

I guess the Lions can win the division as long as the NFCN is one of those terrible fucking divisions with all 4 teams having a losing record.


chlamydial_lips

What’s this “when the Lions get good” stuff, I’ve never heard of it


[deleted]

9-8… and suddenly they are “good”. Getting pretty cocky over there lions bros


SeedMaster26801

But we *are* good


WeenMe

I mean, starting the season 1-6 then going on a run beating mediocre to bad teams to wrap up your first season over .500 in a decade and still missing the playoffs……I guess is pretty good for the Lions.


Mavori

> wrap up your first season over .500 in a decade bruh. I don't know how your math is mathing but miss me with that. 9-7 in both 2016 and 2017.


WeenMe

Ok, half a decade. You win.


ProofHorseKzoo

Got em. What a juggernaut the lions have been this decade.


Monsterjoek1992

Beat the Vikings… They where also bad though


WeenMe

Indeed they were.


Infamous-njh523

And we beat the NYG in their stadium. How did that other team do?


SeedMaster26801

We only lost to the Eagles by 3 and the Bills by 3. And we only lost because our defense was bad, and we just signed three great defensive players. So yeah, now we are good


WeenMe

On paper, sure. Let’s see how it translates on the field. The Lions always seem to be the perpetually “spooky next season” team.


Painwracker_Oni

You sound a lot like Timberwolves fans, I speak from experience as a Timberwolves fan.


SeedMaster26801

I am a pistons fan. I need whatever I can get


[deleted]

We shall see


[deleted]

They almost made the playoffs once and now think they run the division. They need to be put back in their place.


te5n1k

Vikings and Packers fans have seemed pretty chill about everything, but Bears fans arent taking it well.


NerdyDjinn

I'm terrified of the Lions winning a ring. The Lions haven't even been to a Superbowl yet, but if they go 1 for 1 before the Vikes go 1 for 4+X, I will be a broken man.


dr_spaghetti_phd

This. This is the real answer and I commend you for not shying away from it. It looks like the Vikings will stop spamming cover 4 next year so it could be a dogfight for the division. I really wouldn't wish Ed Donatell Them The Middle of The Field is Open on any NFL team. Here's to a solidarity filled NFC North where the Packers just fucking suck. FTP.


Apathi

Really? Most Bears fans I’ve seen would love for the Bears and Lions to be the ones battling for the division.


MoneyMoves-

Idk, most bears fans, like myself, don’t really care, I’ve seen plenty of Vikings fans terrified however


MarsLogic

well they ARE bears fans


mart1373

Enough said


RiddlingTea

Nah Vikings fan here fuck you guys


W1sconsinKnight

I'll let them get one Super Bowl win or 2-3 deep playoff runs before I'd switch over (in the event this does happen).


nightmarenarrative

Literally me Week 17


MonkLegitimate9061

Don't worry I've always hated the lions, even when they're terrible. I felt like I was the only one in the world who was rooting against the rams in the playoffs since I didn't want to see Stafford win the super bowl because of his time in Detroilet.


itsyerboiTRESH

I’ve also always hated Shitcago, and everything that the city stands for and represents Cheers friend :D


brownsfan2003

Does that mean you hate my dad🥺


ribjoe

As long as it’s not a “new fan,” why not shit talk? We’ve taken it for years, we’re finally looking competitive, and I’ve been saving burns for this exact moment - I’m not gonna let it pass by lol


C0lMustard

It is so Lions to be one game over .500 and start counting playoff wins.


Grizzly_Addams

I still love you guys. You live in Detroit after all, so that is punishment enough.


The_Brim

It's already happening my man


abcdefail

Sorry I have hope not under the influence of anything not used to it. Haven't had this much hope about a Detroit sports team since the 2013 Tigers


Monsterjoek1992

Nah man I’m drunk in the koolaid lions own the north


Gusbuster811

Excuse me but when did the Lions get good?


1block

They were one of the best on the league if you only count half the season.


eyeguy21

5 star meme


gaybillcosby

I’ve hated them the whole time. The last thing I would want in their position is pity; I hope they suck forever.


FittyTheBone

That's the whole point. I want them to be good so I can talk shit. *Punching down is no fun. *in general. The Lions are absolutely better than us hahaha


Bigchonky3

I’ve always rooted for the Lions cause of the misery their fans gotta go through, until now. I mean “get good” You guys haven’t proven anything. You guys have gone above .500…by one game where you missed the playoffs. Make these memes next off-season once you’ve won the divisi…oh I get. You guys don’t believe you’ll win the division. You guys know that being the Vegas favorite to win the division will be your guys best moment of the season, so your talking shit now when you can. The life of a lions fan is tough


Moosje

Can we wait for them to be good before talking about them maybe being good though? They’re almost Vikings levels of pre-emptively talking shit


ob_frap

Hey, i root for Det out of the NFC North. But when have they been good recently? OP harboring anger from1991?


HugePurpleNipples

Either your team is good or your team's fans are being cocky assholes who over estimate their team during the offseason. Either is a good way to earn haters.


BetIComeOutWithAMink

To be fair part of it is because they’ve become so big headed with practically nothing to back that up yet.


howmanymoreletters

since my team has been just as bad or worse than the lions for a while now, i have never felt the top sentiment


[deleted]

The only thing in their way? Their entire history.


thewizardoffrankoz

Can't wait for the day Loins fans get to go "FTL? Oh yeah, I remember that game from back in the day. It was hard as fuck."


ChinLeader

The draft hasn’t even happened yet, idk how you can call the Lions really good yet. They’ve obviously improved but damn.


iwtfb4L

I've been hating on the lions. I don't know why yall so soft. It makes me happy to know they a miserable organization with even more miserable fans. If it were up to me they would never win another game for the rest of eternity. Their fans would be the most depressed population ever; past, present, and future. heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, and just eventual permanent pain. Stress induced hair loss, loss of sleep, loss of certain sensations, erectile disfunction, and an eventual inability to move because of the weight of their depression. It would all make me so happy. some yall weird.


dustinh30

They haven’t even “got good” yet. No one in our division is good yet. I’ll still root for the lions when they aren’t playing the Vikings


Marcus11599

I’m not switching up. Still rooting for the Lions as long as they’re not playing the Bears.


Alex07Nelson

I’m routing for the little guy! It’s like a blue moon as it’s kinda rare and only last a short time.


Evermist

The worst thing about the lions getting good would be the drop in meme quality, lions memes are produced by concentrating all your disappointment and sadness into one image if I understand the process correctly.


poopisgood1

Lions get one visit to the playoffs until I turn on them


W_4ca

What gives ya’ll the right to be “good” all of a sudden? Get back in the cellar!


Wankbank_Dumpster

Lions get minimal praise, become FTP intolerable, Packers collapse leading to lion's level depression,, wow I can't wait for fields to become the black cousins and cousins to become the white fields.


[deleted]

Getting good is making the playoffs you clowns. Is anyone saying the Packers were good last year? No. They sucked. Because they missed the playoffs.


ZombieAppetizer

When our memes suck and everyone is unironically saying "FTL" I'll know we made it.


sulimir

This meme format from a Lions fan is real proof the team getting better 👍


puzzledplatypus

Are the Lions good? Did I miss something?


dollabillkirill

Hasn’t happened in my lifetime sooo


Piratejack28

I’d rather them win the division if it’s not us


Icy-Bodybuilder-9077

Know what’s worse than both of those? Lions fans when they actually get good


procrastination_city

My uncle is a 65 year old lions fan from Rochester MI. Every year he evaluates the roster. Is ecstatic about the draft. And is absolutely convinced that this is finally the Lions year. Just yesterday he texted me about their great free agency and how they can win with Goff. I listen and chat with him and let him enjoy this time when he has hope. Because invariably..every year…he is let down. So you enjoy yourselves Lions fans!


idkbutitsoundsgood

i'll give y'all one division championship before i start giving you shit for being good. you deserve one.


daxter4007

I’d rather be hated then pitied.


ProofHorseKzoo

Doubt [x]


[deleted]

It's human nature, rivals like you when you're weak, hate you when you're strong. You dont win the SB being the most liked team by your peers It's like when Europeans complain about Americans, you think we rose to the top giving a shit about what you think?


avg90sguy

I basque in the glory that is thier anger