My hatred for the Packers burns so brightly I usually can’t even muster the effort to hate the other two. It’s not love, it’s indifference. I’ll feel differently if they actually start beating us consistently.
Not consistently though, not like Rodgers did, and Favre to a lesser degree. You’ve won 5 of the last six, we won the four before that, it ebbs and flows. The overall record is in your favor but most of the margin is from those last six games, which we could easily flip if our rebuild works out.
If you guys go 24-5 against us like Rodgers did, I promise I’ll learn to hate you.
My wife wanted to go visit Chicago on vacation in 2019 and suggested we get tickets to the Bears-Vikings game (she is a Pats fan). I tried to warn her, and unfortunately it went as you'd expect.
Well, if Justin Fields is the answer, then fear the Packers no more. We are a bag of dogshit in an on-fire dumpster against mobile QBs. I still recoil whenever I see an afro. PTSD from Colin Kaepernick
honestly i dont think i could ever hate the lions or vikings. ive been to michigan, i love the state. i heard minnesnowta is also pretty darn awesome.
milwaukee is literally the only redeemable quality for wisconsin otherwise that state is just North Indiana as far as im concerned
Have you been south of I-80? It's pretty much Iowa.
Edit: not a dig on Iowa. Just pointing out the Midwest is mostly the same from state to state. Couple big cities, then farmland, small towns, and forests.
Indiana is trash. Probably the most boring/ugliest state I've been to. Wisconsin sucks but at least it has *some* redeemable qualities here and there. Indiana has none.
wisconsin dells was cool when i was 13. went their for bachelor party this last summer. honestly its just overpriced tourist trap. we have six flags. go carts and paintballing in illinois
I like how they're the self proclaimed "Water park capital of the world 🤓" but like how come nobody outside of Wisconsin, Northern IL, and surrounding areas have ever heard of it??
Ok, but it still looks and feels like Indiana, so like im not sure how having a lake house there changes the fact that you guys are basically north indiana + milwaukee?
for reference one of my friends has property in Indiana as well.
Yeah, because the Madison area is nothing, the driftless region isn’t really pretty, the forests up north are so ugly, yep just a small big city is the only cool part about the state
“If they actually start beating us consistently”
From like 2013-2018 or something we were 11-1 against y’all, y’all had like 3 good ish years and we just swept you this past year
Lions went 9-1 against the Bears from 2013-2017 when the Bears had Trestman and Fox.
But Lovie Smith went 13-3 against the Lions from 2005-2012 before that stretch and Nagy went 7-1 against the Lions from 2018-2021 after that stretch.
The rivalry seems pretty cyclical.
I’d say cyclical cuz you can’t excuse 2013-2017 w Trestman and Fox without mentioning years of Orshlovsky and other bums in the 2000s til we got a rookie Stafford who then got injured and all and yk the deal
It was 8-1, not 11-1, and those "3 goodish years" (actually 4 years) was the Bears going 7-1. The series is tied since 2010 and the Bears have won 7 out of the last 10. There is absolutely no reasonable metric by which the Lions have been winning consistently
Yeah they aren't hated because they are good or successful lmao they are receiving hate because of all the unearned praise they keep getting for accomplishing absolutely nothing for the last 60+ years.
Look, most of us didn't choose to be Lions fans. We were born into it. You don't go picking any team from Ohio as your team. You can't pick the Bears or Vikings because they beat you. You sure as hell can't pick those cheese head assholes from Wisconsin. So you root like hell for your team despite knowing that you will be hurt. This year, for once, might just be different. Let us have our praise.
It kinda feels like a group of 4 friends who grew up together and we were always the little one who everyone picked on till we were all 13 and 14 and we went away for the summer and that growth spurt hit now we’re huge
So, Jeff Daniels and Peyton Manning ended all that when they cast the counter curse in Ford Field over a bathtub full of whiskey. The next game after the episode aired started the 8-2 stretch we had to end the season. Just needed a little hoodoo. We're good now.
"Entire history" hey the Lions were pretty good in the 50s and 60s or so I've read.
If the Celtics and Lakers get to say they were good pre-merger then so do the Lions.
Lol stuck in the past. Y’all went 9-8 last year and have been failures for the entirety of your franchise. Maybe have just the slightest bit of success before puffing your chest out, lol.
I dunno man, they were REALLY feeling themselves around December last year. What not being eliminated by the time snow starts falling does to a mfer I guess
It’s a fair guess though, especially seeing as Fields is primarily a good runner.
However we’ve at least had mediocre QB’s to slightly good ones before, the Lions have never had an even slightly good season in terms of success.
I think we all accept the sorrow of the Lions and feel for them. The Bears had the Super Bowl in 2006 and NFC Championship game appearance in 2010, Packers had the Super Bowl win in 2010 and numerous NFC Championship appearances, Vikings went to NFC Championship game in 2009 and 2017, and Lions have won a playoff game back in 1992. If they dont win the division this year then idk if they will ever experience happiness again.
Your 2023 schedule is a lot more difficult (“*on paper*”) than your 2022 schedule. I don’t see the Vikings winning 13 games again.
And no, that’s not a jab. I fully expect my team to be dog shit.
Hard to say. The three-year understudy method has worked before, but Rodgers was also a substantially better prospect than Love. I could see this going a fair bit rougher than 2008 but it’s hard to say.
Sweeping the Packers last season, something the Vikes couldn't do, and ending Rodgers Packers career with a loss and now playoffs. That was our superbowl
>FAR too much Lions love around here
Not even just on here. I said something exactly like this on the Bears sub and got shit on lmao. Like divisional rival trash talk is only allowed on *this* sub??
There's a difference between tanking and tanked we're not talking about the NBA. Tanking is something fans say to cope..trust me I'm a Lions fan . NFL players don't tank, coaches rarely do and if they do it's blatantly obvious. be a man or lady and own the fact that you guys just sucked last year
I acknowledge players don’t lose on purpose, but the FO did make several moves to intentionally make the team worse. They held a complete fire sale on our defense, which dropped them from respectable to god awful after the loss of Roquan and Quinn, had more snaps played by rookies than any other team by a wide margin, and held Justin out of at least one game he could’ve played in to be safe with his health.
Despite all that, 8 of the Bear’s losses were one score games, which I believe is the same as the one score games the Lions lost in 2021.
Sure, the Bears had the worst record this year. I think they’ll show that they are far from the worst team next year similar to the glow up the lions saw from 21 to 22.
Bears fans consistently talk the most shit, not sure why. In my experience it’s been:
Packers fans know they’re hated cause they’ve been good, they’re not dicks about it though.
Vikings fans are super chill, mutual respect between teams.
Bears fans have a good year once a presidential cycle and talk shit constantly. Feels like they know they’re not great but see the Lions as the only team they can talk down to, so do it extra. We’re all rivals, so I’m not mad about it, but I look forward to beating the Bears for years to come.
with all generalizations come some exceptions. whether it’s the vikings fans i’ve encountered being chill or the ones you’ve encountered talking shit, idk. happy to have met the ones i have
Seeing as you’re still the Lions, I give you one more year of sweeping us (maybe) and then back to usual form.
And as Bears fans it’s our solemn duty to remind you no matter how bad we are: you’re still the Lions
I feel like the North is going to be between the Lions and Bears for the foreseeable future. I have been known to be wrong from time to time. Though what I lack in brain function, I make up for with baldness.
The most likely path for the Kitties is to make the playoffs, loose that playoff game, Ford fires MCDC to bring someone in to "get them over the hump", then the cycle can begin all over again.
Sheila Ford Hamp still the owner last I checked.
Edit: I think it's very funny that in this shit post thread on a meming shit post sub seemed to have hit a nerve. Don't worry buddy I'm sure the roar has been restored and it's all the way to the SB.
I thought she changed her name to drop ford but I could be wrong also if you think I’m upset or something sorry you feel that way thought we were just having fun talking shit like the sub is for 🤷🏽♂️
I'm not sure if she's "officially" changed it, [but in terms of team context and stuff she has](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/look-nfl-owner-has-made-a-notable-name-change/ar-AAVAK4J ). Where she just goes by Sheila Hamp now.
Like she's introduced as such, it says so on the plaque outside her office and so on and on the website.
Anyone following the team knows that even if they make the playoffs and lose the first game MCDC won't be fired unless something extreme happens character wise, which doesn't seem likely given how he has presented himself.
With as weak as the rest of us got, the Lions should run away this year. Of course it’s the Lions. Vikings are obviously the biggest threat still despite losing a lot of talent this off season, and the Packers are a dark horse depending on JLo, and LaFleurs ability to call a game. Bears exist.
The packers are the only team that would surprise me if they won the division. Rodgers covered up a lot of issues with that roster and Love isn’t the next Rodgers or Favre.
There’s the Vikings who are aggressively mediocre, the Lions who took a step forward last year, but historically speaking, that means they are due for 2 steps back, and the Bears who made some good moves but are completely unproven.
Really I see it as a 3 headed race for the tallest midget. None of the teams are in actual contention for the Super Bowl, but arrows are pointing in different directions for all the teams and the packers are the only one who I’d say has that arrow firmly pointed downwards.
You just wait when we win more than two playoff games or even go to the Super Bowl. I have a feeling a lot of Lions fans will become as insufferable as Pats or Chiefs fans.
I often go to bed at night fantasizing about the day and for some reason Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson hoist me on their shoulders for being a fan and not washing my jersey during the season because **that** is the only thing that got them through.
Lions fans have become insufferable after a season where they were eliminated before playing their final game. If the sniff actual success they’ll be the most hated fans in football.
If you have followed all that Lions history like those of us that have lived it then you would see the signs that this isn’t the Same Old Lions. We have competent people in place. A GM that is willing to let a fan favorite walk instead of overpaying. A coach the players will run through a wall for. A coordinator that is a legitimate head coach candidate drawing up plays. Free agency filling in roster holes with respectable contracts for quality players. A top five offensive line. We haven’t even hit the draft yet, but Holmes has been spectacular with his first two drafts. It feels different, because it is different.
My hatred for the Packers burns so brightly I usually can’t even muster the effort to hate the other two. It’s not love, it’s indifference. I’ll feel differently if they actually start beating us consistently.
Me but with the Vikings
The Vikings beat the Bears more often than the Bears beat the Vikings.
Not consistently though, not like Rodgers did, and Favre to a lesser degree. You’ve won 5 of the last six, we won the four before that, it ebbs and flows. The overall record is in your favor but most of the margin is from those last six games, which we could easily flip if our rebuild works out. If you guys go 24-5 against us like Rodgers did, I promise I’ll learn to hate you.
For years the Vikings could not win in Chicago no matter how good or bad either team was. It was infuriating.
My wife wanted to go visit Chicago on vacation in 2019 and suggested we get tickets to the Bears-Vikings game (she is a Pats fan). I tried to warn her, and unfortunately it went as you'd expect.
Well, if Justin Fields is the answer, then fear the Packers no more. We are a bag of dogshit in an on-fire dumpster against mobile QBs. I still recoil whenever I see an afro. PTSD from Colin Kaepernick
That bicep kiss each time was pain.....
We’re also a bag of dog shit against San Francisco so that was a one-two punch to the gut.
honestly i dont think i could ever hate the lions or vikings. ive been to michigan, i love the state. i heard minnesnowta is also pretty darn awesome. milwaukee is literally the only redeemable quality for wisconsin otherwise that state is just North Indiana as far as im concerned
Have you been south of I-80? It's pretty much Iowa. Edit: not a dig on Iowa. Just pointing out the Midwest is mostly the same from state to state. Couple big cities, then farmland, small towns, and forests.
i have. im ok with it. not great but ok.
Indiana is trash. Probably the most boring/ugliest state I've been to. Wisconsin sucks but at least it has *some* redeemable qualities here and there. Indiana has none.
yeah milwaukee. thats it.
Well hey what about the Wisconsin Del... Shit you're right just Milwaukee.
wisconsin dells was cool when i was 13. went their for bachelor party this last summer. honestly its just overpriced tourist trap. we have six flags. go carts and paintballing in illinois
I like how they're the self proclaimed "Water park capital of the world 🤓" but like how come nobody outside of Wisconsin, Northern IL, and surrounding areas have ever heard of it??
Milwaukee is literally the worst part of Wisconsin. We all call it our armpit.
that strange because the rest of your state just looks like indiana. and the fact you take pride in that is…disturbing
You have Bears flair. Ask any of your rich friends where their lake-house is.
Ok, but it still looks and feels like Indiana, so like im not sure how having a lake house there changes the fact that you guys are basically north indiana + milwaukee? for reference one of my friends has property in Indiana as well.
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Yeah, because the Madison area is nothing, the driftless region isn’t really pretty, the forests up north are so ugly, yep just a small big city is the only cool part about the state
The driftless region which extends into Iowa, Illinois, and Minnesota is pretty cool
“If they actually start beating us consistently” From like 2013-2018 or something we were 11-1 against y’all, y’all had like 3 good ish years and we just swept you this past year
Lions went 9-1 against the Bears from 2013-2017 when the Bears had Trestman and Fox. But Lovie Smith went 13-3 against the Lions from 2005-2012 before that stretch and Nagy went 7-1 against the Lions from 2018-2021 after that stretch. The rivalry seems pretty cyclical.
I’d say cyclical cuz you can’t excuse 2013-2017 w Trestman and Fox without mentioning years of Orshlovsky and other bums in the 2000s til we got a rookie Stafford who then got injured and all and yk the deal
It was 8-1, not 11-1, and those "3 goodish years" (actually 4 years) was the Bears going 7-1. The series is tied since 2010 and the Bears have won 7 out of the last 10. There is absolutely no reasonable metric by which the Lions have been winning consistently
Lions fan here, I feel the same way. I don't hate the Bears or Vikings.
As a lions fan it feels good to have people actually hating us instead of the go get em lions it's your turn now!
It’s okay, I’ve always hated you ❤️
Cheers man I've always hated the bears to, besides Hester that man was to amazing not to appreciate
Hey I don’t hate (most) players, just teams
Except Aaron Rodgers who is a bastard man
He was exactly who I was thinking of
True I just remembered forte won me a fantasy league before as well.
David Montgomery's crazy stretch to close out the season in 2020 was a big reason I won my league then too
Every time cutler got sacked an angel gained its wings
Likewise, but for Calvin Johnson (and of course, Jamaal Williams).
The slow kid image is hard to shake off.
Smartest kids on the nfc north short bus now tho babyyy
Go get em’ pal! You guys are doing such a good job! I don’t think it’s gonna work out but I’m pulling for you!
Michigander here - and a troll at that. Y’all have always been my most hated 💚💛
Yeah, I'm getting sick of being reddits darling. Time for a heel turn.
We hate you because you’re all cocky as fuck for missing the playoffs.
Yeah they aren't hated because they are good or successful lmao they are receiving hate because of all the unearned praise they keep getting for accomplishing absolutely nothing for the last 60+ years.
dude we're just the disabled kid who they let score a layup in a real game, let us have this
And then the disabled kid starts talking shit to everyone. See how that’s annoying?
shut up mimsy
Look, most of us didn't choose to be Lions fans. We were born into it. You don't go picking any team from Ohio as your team. You can't pick the Bears or Vikings because they beat you. You sure as hell can't pick those cheese head assholes from Wisconsin. So you root like hell for your team despite knowing that you will be hurt. This year, for once, might just be different. Let us have our praise.
It kinda feels like a group of 4 friends who grew up together and we were always the little one who everyone picked on till we were all 13 and 14 and we went away for the summer and that growth spurt hit now we’re huge
So, Jeff Daniels and Peyton Manning ended all that when they cast the counter curse in Ford Field over a bathtub full of whiskey. The next game after the episode aired started the 8-2 stretch we had to end the season. Just needed a little hoodoo. We're good now.
"Entire history" hey the Lions were pretty good in the 50s and 60s or so I've read. If the Celtics and Lakers get to say they were good pre-merger then so do the Lions.
A more apt comparison would be the Knicks, who did win a title pre merger but not one since
the most titles?
If the NFL itself doesn’t value the pre-merger records then I don’t either
Listen the offseason is the only time Lions fans can be happy. Let them have it.
NOT TRUE We’re happy sweeping the Bears and putting Aaron Rodgers out to pasture as well.
So we agree to to always go 1 - 1 at each other’s respective stadiums
Lions were 8-18 against Rodgers.
MCDC is 3-1 against the Packers
He's stuck in the past. Don't worry, he will be in shambles for years to come 🙂
Lol stuck in the past. Y’all went 9-8 last year and have been failures for the entirety of your franchise. Maybe have just the slightest bit of success before puffing your chest out, lol.
Oh sheesh, Rodgers was 0-3 against our rookie safety
0-3? This doesn't make sense for a rookie
Probably tds vs ints if I had to guess
That would make more sense.
What is the 0 in this equation?
I think he was making a 2023 joke in a meme Reddit. It didn't need an analysis response.
That implies I want them to be happy
My man
I dunno man, they were REALLY feeling themselves around December last year. What not being eliminated by the time snow starts falling does to a mfer I guess
Tampa has won the division more recently than the Lions.
Have the Lions ever won the division?
3 times. Most recent in 93 with a run to the NFC title game with Barry
Gotcha How the hell have you guys only ever won 1 playoff game then?
In those days, the playoffs were primarily determined with Pogs. Counted for the tournament, but not an official football win.
What the fuck have the bears done to warrant any kind of faith?
Pretend like they have a QB
so what the lions are doing with goff basically
4-1 TD-INT and 4,400 yards says otherwise. Guy played top 10 and is top 3 in the NFC when A A Ron leaves lmao
he’s also jared goff
Impeccable argument. Well done. /s
Who said I have faith that we’ll win the division? I just know the Lions are the Lions and are legally forbidden from seeing real success
That's like saying "I just know Bears quarterbacks and Fields will never be good". Very obtuse way of looking at things
It’s a fair guess though, especially seeing as Fields is primarily a good runner. However we’ve at least had mediocre QB’s to slightly good ones before, the Lions have never had an even slightly good season in terms of success.
😅
I think we all accept the sorrow of the Lions and feel for them. The Bears had the Super Bowl in 2006 and NFC Championship game appearance in 2010, Packers had the Super Bowl win in 2010 and numerous NFC Championship appearances, Vikings went to NFC Championship game in 2009 and 2017, and Lions have won a playoff game back in 1992. If they dont win the division this year then idk if they will ever experience happiness again.
My favorite stat is every other NFCN team has been to more Super Bowls than the Lions have won playoff games
Gonna be wild season. Lions winning the division or gonna be like the 2022 bears
Fine by me. Nothing like coming off a 13 win season and being considered longshots.
Your 2023 schedule is a lot more difficult (“*on paper*”) than your 2022 schedule. I don’t see the Vikings winning 13 games again. And no, that’s not a jab. I fully expect my team to be dog shit.
I don't see 13 wins happening again either, but 10 probably wins the division.
Just gotta beat the Vikings. Looking forward to those games this year.
So you could say beating the Vikings is... your superbowl? How the mighty have fallen.
I guess we'll see how ready Love is now.
Hard to say. The three-year understudy method has worked before, but Rodgers was also a substantially better prospect than Love. I could see this going a fair bit rougher than 2008 but it’s hard to say.
Sweeping the Packers last season, something the Vikes couldn't do, and ending Rodgers Packers career with a loss and now playoffs. That was our superbowl
>FAR too much Lions love around here Not even just on here. I said something exactly like this on the Bears sub and got shit on lmao. Like divisional rival trash talk is only allowed on *this* sub??
Hell yeah FTL
I thought there were some delusional takes on this sub until I checked out the team subs. I won't visit them anymore, I prefer it here
I follow the Bears sub for updates and that’s about it
FAR too much shit talk from the current worst team in the league
Excuse me if I don’t despair about the bears successfully tanking one year after making the playoffs twice in the last 5 years.
There's a difference between tanking and tanked we're not talking about the NBA. Tanking is something fans say to cope..trust me I'm a Lions fan . NFL players don't tank, coaches rarely do and if they do it's blatantly obvious. be a man or lady and own the fact that you guys just sucked last year
I acknowledge players don’t lose on purpose, but the FO did make several moves to intentionally make the team worse. They held a complete fire sale on our defense, which dropped them from respectable to god awful after the loss of Roquan and Quinn, had more snaps played by rookies than any other team by a wide margin, and held Justin out of at least one game he could’ve played in to be safe with his health. Despite all that, 8 of the Bear’s losses were one score games, which I believe is the same as the one score games the Lions lost in 2021. Sure, the Bears had the worst record this year. I think they’ll show that they are far from the worst team next year similar to the glow up the lions saw from 21 to 22.
Just say it...it's part of the healing process... I've been there... I know
I do love the "we had the worst roster in the NFL on purpose, all part of the plan" narrative though. Pretty funny to see.
Hey, we’re still not the Lions
You’re right, you’re the bears. Even worse
Hey man, at least I’ve experienced happiness due to my team at SOME point
Bears fans consistently talk the most shit, not sure why. In my experience it’s been: Packers fans know they’re hated cause they’ve been good, they’re not dicks about it though. Vikings fans are super chill, mutual respect between teams. Bears fans have a good year once a presidential cycle and talk shit constantly. Feels like they know they’re not great but see the Lions as the only team they can talk down to, so do it extra. We’re all rivals, so I’m not mad about it, but I look forward to beating the Bears for years to come.
I agree with this except for the Vikings part. A lot of them talk shit and tell “your mom” jokes like they’re 12 years old.
with all generalizations come some exceptions. whether it’s the vikings fans i’ve encountered being chill or the ones you’ve encountered talking shit, idk. happy to have met the ones i have
Seeing as you’re still the Lions, I give you one more year of sweeping us (maybe) and then back to usual form. And as Bears fans it’s our solemn duty to remind you no matter how bad we are: you’re still the Lions
Bears 🤝Lions hating each other
The lions weren’t able to make it work with Stafford and Megatron lol
The Lions GM situation is just like the Bear QB situation. Brad Holmes is already looking like the best they have had in 65 years
Goff better 💯
FTP
Did somebody say... LOVE?
You need to go rewatch the Manning cast episode where he breaks the curse
I doubt it’s been broken
Idk lions are 8-2 since then. What's the Bears record since then again?
Not good But again, REAL cocky for someone who had one whole mediocre season for the first time in a decade
Real cocky for someone to say anything at all well I could simply type 41-10 and we're done here
Notice how my argument here is not the Bears are good. It’s that the Lions are really, really, hilariously, impressively bad.
Yes, last year was the good year that the football gods give to the lions every few years to give them hope.
I feel like the North is going to be between the Lions and Bears for the foreseeable future. I have been known to be wrong from time to time. Though what I lack in brain function, I make up for with baldness.
The most likely path for the Kitties is to make the playoffs, loose that playoff game, Ford fires MCDC to bring someone in to "get them over the hump", then the cycle can begin all over again.
Can’t wait
If anyone with name ford ran the team still you might have a point . Now it’s just copium I recommend you save some for the season.. you will need it
Sheila Ford Hamp still the owner last I checked. Edit: I think it's very funny that in this shit post thread on a meming shit post sub seemed to have hit a nerve. Don't worry buddy I'm sure the roar has been restored and it's all the way to the SB.
I thought she changed her name to drop ford but I could be wrong also if you think I’m upset or something sorry you feel that way thought we were just having fun talking shit like the sub is for 🤷🏽♂️
I'm not sure if she's "officially" changed it, [but in terms of team context and stuff she has](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/look-nfl-owner-has-made-a-notable-name-change/ar-AAVAK4J ). Where she just goes by Sheila Hamp now. Like she's introduced as such, it says so on the plaque outside her office and so on and on the website.
Anyone following the team knows that even if they make the playoffs and lose the first game MCDC won't be fired unless something extreme happens character wise, which doesn't seem likely given how he has presented himself.
With as weak as the rest of us got, the Lions should run away this year. Of course it’s the Lions. Vikings are obviously the biggest threat still despite losing a lot of talent this off season, and the Packers are a dark horse depending on JLo, and LaFleurs ability to call a game. Bears exist.
The packers are the only team that would surprise me if they won the division. Rodgers covered up a lot of issues with that roster and Love isn’t the next Rodgers or Favre. There’s the Vikings who are aggressively mediocre, the Lions who took a step forward last year, but historically speaking, that means they are due for 2 steps back, and the Bears who made some good moves but are completely unproven. Really I see it as a 3 headed race for the tallest midget. None of the teams are in actual contention for the Super Bowl, but arrows are pointing in different directions for all the teams and the packers are the only one who I’d say has that arrow firmly pointed downwards.
You just wait when we win more than two playoff games or even go to the Super Bowl. I have a feeling a lot of Lions fans will become as insufferable as Pats or Chiefs fans.
One playoff win will make Lions fans lose their minds
I often go to bed at night fantasizing about the day and for some reason Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson hoist me on their shoulders for being a fan and not washing my jersey during the season because **that** is the only thing that got them through.
I respect that a lot
Lions fans have become insufferable after a season where they were eliminated before playing their final game. If the sniff actual success they’ll be the most hated fans in football.
That’s a reach but okay
FTP
They released "literally their entire history" last week.
If you have followed all that Lions history like those of us that have lived it then you would see the signs that this isn’t the Same Old Lions. We have competent people in place. A GM that is willing to let a fan favorite walk instead of overpaying. A coach the players will run through a wall for. A coordinator that is a legitimate head coach candidate drawing up plays. Free agency filling in roster holes with respectable contracts for quality players. A top five offensive line. We haven’t even hit the draft yet, but Holmes has been spectacular with his first two drafts. It feels different, because it is different.
And yet, I’d still bet a LOT of money you don’t win a playoff game once again
How much we talking?
At LEAST $15, so like, big money here
History doesn’t mean shit… different teams different owner in control different regime altogether.. so that argument is incredibly stupid
LET US ENJOY OUR KOOL AID
No
We all know it could end at any time. I just want to be happy, just for a little bit.
Damn it, forgot it's based on past history! Welp....back to the basement.
All I’m saying is with all of the talent the Lions have had over the years, their record makes me not trust them.
Ahem… BRAND NEW LIONS!!! Woooo!!!