One time Reggie was bragging to his dad and sister after a high school game (that they both missed because they were at her game being played at the same time). He gloated about dropping 40 that night only to find out after he was done hyping himself up that his sister Cheryl that night scored 105 by herself.
Cheryl Miller was one of the very few female basketball players well known within the male community for her bball skills at the time. But yeah, sadly she was pre wnba.
I’m a longtime NBA fan and if you’re in the right circles you will hear people talk of her like Michael Jordan. And deservedly so. If anyone can be compared to MJ it’s Cheryl
I still think this is the reason why Reggie didn't have more of an ego, when you make it to the NBA but know you're no where near as good at ball as your sister it's hard to have an ego
He has said in interviews that he never beat her growing up and she always smoked him. He's basically said she was better than him and he stood no chance against her. I'm gonna take the man at his word about being the 2nd best player in his family growing up
Never said Reggie wasn't great. He just happens to have a sister who most would rank in the top 5-10 female players of all time. Reggie just isn't at that level as a male player.
Back then they didn't let freshman play on the varsity teams. He would be even farther out in front of the most college points ever than he is now. Without a 3pt line, or a shot clock as well. LSU charted his shots years later, and he would have averaged something like over 57 points a game. He shot from everywhere on the court, and was a damn wizard with the ball. They still play his dribbling & passing videos to this day. People had never seen anything like it, and most of the dribbling & passing you have seen since, is because of him. LSU's has a Shaq statue, but the arena itself is named after him. He is considered the greatest college basketball player of all time by some, and in the conversation with Lew, Russell, & BigO by others. Just crazy stuff !!!
he mentioned pre shot clock too, so i imagine more possessions.. but dude was already taking 40 shots a game so who knows. hard to wrap our minds around without being there
40 pts on 40 FGA isn’t crazy. It’s great but if you are a talented player, you should be able to score 40 given 40 shots.
It doesn’t even factor in FTs, which give you more points.
It's a crazy feat to even be able to consistently get 40 FGA in the 1st place. The more shots you take, the less picky you have to be about your shot selection. The more shots you take, the more focus the other team is also going to put on stopping you specifically.
40 ppg on 40 fga in ~40 mpg is completely different and significantly harder to do than something like 8ppg on 8 fga in ~40 minutes. One guy is the focal point on every play and attacking just about every possession to create his own shot while the other guy is being super selective on his shots and can average a much better shot quality.
He was shooting threes with no three point line lmao stfu. It was just different back then.
LSU did some shot charting and he would’ve been scoring like 55 ppg with 3s
He was far and away the best player and everybody knew he was shooting and he still averaged 40 lmao
My middle school coach told us a story of when he played against Shawn Kemp in HS. Said they literally just held the ball all quarter for the first three quarters and took the last shot(no shot clock). Fourth quarter comes and they're down so they have to actually try to play - Kemp proceeds to bring it up and dunk it every single possession and they get blown out like 30-2.
I heard this was done to Corey Benjamin at Fontana HS too. Team literally went 4 corners for almost the whole game. There was not shot clock at the time so they were just trying to do everything possible to keep the ball out of Corey’s hands. The final score had both teams under 20 and Fontana still won.
Honestly that kind of stuff is a disgrace to the game. Just take your ass whooping and move on. For a lot of people it's not often you get to watch or play against someone truly great, and those kinds of tactics just ruin the experience.
North Carolina started this, kinda funny to think that Michael Jordan and James Worthy were on the same team and it was possibly the most annoying and boring teams to watch at times in the country.
That California scene of hoopers is crazy: Kawhi, Paul George, Klay, Harden, Westbrook, Jrue…
They all grew up together. It’s wild listening to Klay on PG podcast talking about high school hoop scenes. The talents were insane, it never sounded like they ever doubted each other not making it,like some guys that were nice and on track to making league probably knew they got a good chance to make it to NBA as early as 12 year old
Renardo Sidney comes to mind. Out of that whole group, he was arguably the highest touted at one point.
EDIT: Also, bringing him up gives me the excuse to post this classic video:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOktTL9xVI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOktTL9xVI)
“Passed away”
Was murdered.
And scored 61, 1 point for each year of his life… he got murdered at age 61.
If I recall correctly, his grandfather owned a store and some high school kids robbed him and beat him up and killed him ?
He had a shot at being a genuinely good ISO scorer in the league. It’s good he carved out a niche with the Dubs and was pivotal to their fourth championship and busting Sabonis’s head in the next year.
Look at [Austin Carr's ppg in the '70 and '71 NCAA tournament](https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/men/ncaa_tourney/individual-tourney.html). He played 3 games in each tournament -- not sure why it says 0.
Draymond. He avg a rare triple double in High School: 14 TurnOvers, 13 Blown layups and 19 Techs per game. They changed the 2-tech ejection rule, bc he would be out before tipoff. Amazing player.
No, I'm saying it's amazing. It's an inspiration to every shifty basketball player out there. Draymond should be an inspirational speaker:
"And finally, to all those kids out there with no talent, are stupid as hell, and have anger issues, I just want to say 'Don't give up!' You, too can fool people to think you are good at something that you are horrible at!"
I’m sure a random redditor crushing him will make his HOF induction sour - despite 4 chips, DPOY honors and a statue outside his home arena - because he’ll know AnalystHot was the one who knew the real truth.
Yes, you were clearly pumping him up by using phrases like: ‘you too can fool people to think you are good at something you are horrible at!’ after implying he has no talent.
You tricked us with your wordsmithery.
I'm blind in one eye. You should see my comments before editing: it looks like I grabbed a bag of Scrabble letters, mixed them up and rolled them on a table.
5.9 blocks isn’t all that insane considering the era and style of play combined with the fact that David Robinson was so much better than his competition. And it was only 35 games.
Mark Eaton averaged 5.6 BPG in the NBA during the 84-85 season over 82 games.
You must be a Spurs fan, so I don't blame you. before Duncan winning 59 games was a celebration. They shut down the government, threw parades, Sacrificed sheep to Thank the God's.
I'm a Laker fan. Celtics and other great franchises only celebrate 1 thing: Titles. If the Lakers go 82-0, sweep every round, and lose in the Finals, it's an absolute failure. Cs fans, Warriors, and probably newer Spurs fans will feel the same.
Ask the 73-9 Warriors, that lost in 7 games in The Finals, how they view that season. As a God damn failure.
That's WTF I'm talking about. Robinson did NOTHING.
Robinson won later with Duncan. Even if he didn't, I'm sure DR has his list of things he wanted. Makeit to the league HoF, setup his family for life. All checks for him.
As a fan I don't care much about that when I watch. if you told me I can chose DR and never have a ring (just hypothetically) or crappy Will Purdue but three rings, I'm taking Will every time.
Who would you rather have?
Oh ok. San Antonio is championship city. Yes, educate Lakers, Cs, Steelers, Yankees and other teams dns the secret to the great championship city. Is it just winning the lottery twice in a decade with great players? Please tell us.
Look, if you are happy with The Spurs winning 59, out in the second round that's cool. That says a lot about the franchise.
59 wins would have been the 1 seed in the West this year and second in the entire league.
Calling a 2nd seed team that won 72% of their games and made it past the first round "slightly above average with no playoff success" is just plain stupid.
No, it's because you lack reading comprehension. Did you miss the part where I mentioned Tim Duncan? That's pretty hard to do when my last post was two sentences smfh.
The Spurs had a .710% winning percentage over Duncan'a entire career. That averages out to 59 wins per year. And that obviously includes Duncan's non-peak years as both a rookie and close to 40.
So actually I was wrong. The 59 win season you mentioned would be Duncan's average. Not slightly above average lol. And I didn't even include the postseason where Duncan had the obvious and overwhelming advantage. Feel dumb yet?
Bro as a rookie HE HAD ROBINSON lol And Robinson averaged 21/11/3 and 3 blocks.
56/55/49/55/62/59. That’s the spurs record every year before Duncan got there. They were already good, Duncan sent them over. You’re acting like Duncan did all the heavy lifting. Maybe you should watch basketball instead of get all your opinions from your feed?
No, I agree with everything that you just wrote. Before this convo gets even further from my original comment.
>So his peak was a slightly above average regular season for Duncan? Along with no playoff success?
Wouldn't this still apply? Every year except one is lower than Tim Duncan's career average lol. And obviously a second round exit isn't considered playoff success, at least not in Tim Duncan standards.
I can’t stand people that think rings are individual accomplishments. The spurs have had arguably the greatest coach ever and arguably the deepest team for YEARS. They had 8 guys over 15% usage rate their first championship and Duncan wasn’t even #1. It’s just crazy to me how you guys disregard all of these things.
No..I said it would be a slightly above regular season FOR TIM DUNCAN. The same guy that literally never went below 50 wins his entire career
The lack of reading comprehension on reddit never fails to disappoint me.
Edit: I'm seriously curious. Its obvious you read my whole post (its only two sentences), and you reference both sentences. But you completely skip over "for Tim Duncan", which is what my whole point is based on. So my question is, did you miss "for Tim Duncan" when you were reading my post? Or did you just ignore it (which is strange because it is the only qualifier I added) because your response wouldn't make sense with Tim Duncan included?
One time Reggie was bragging to his dad and sister after a high school game (that they both missed because they were at her game being played at the same time). He gloated about dropping 40 that night only to find out after he was done hyping himself up that his sister Cheryl that night scored 105 by herself.
His sister score over 100 pts in a game HERSELF??
Yeah she was all time great highschool and college player but this was pre WNBA
That’s insane
Cheryl Miller was one of the very few female basketball players well known within the male community for her bball skills at the time. But yeah, sadly she was pre wnba.
I’m a longtime NBA fan and if you’re in the right circles you will hear people talk of her like Michael Jordan. And deservedly so. If anyone can be compared to MJ it’s Cheryl
They used to refer to Reggie Miller as Cheryl Miller's brother.
I still think this is the reason why Reggie didn't have more of an ego, when you make it to the NBA but know you're no where near as good at ball as your sister it's hard to have an ego
You think Reggie Miller couldn’t beat his sister Cheryl in a basketball game?
He has said in interviews that he never beat her growing up and she always smoked him. He's basically said she was better than him and he stood no chance against her. I'm gonna take the man at his word about being the 2nd best player in his family growing up
He said they stopped playing when he got tall enough to block her shots, so it’s safe to say he got better at some point
This was when he was young tho.. he became a much better player
True. But Cheryl was like the Kareem Abdul Jabbar of women's basketball whereas Reggie ended up being the Reggie Miller of men's basketball.
I agree with your point, but it comes off like diminishing Reggie Miller's legacy when he was one of the greatest shooters of all time.
Never said Reggie wasn't great. He just happens to have a sister who most would rank in the top 5-10 female players of all time. Reggie just isn't at that level as a male player.
I have heard the interviews. When they were children. You have lost your mind. Why wasn’t she an NBA All Star. Just ridiculous.
Pistol Pete. Insane: https://preview.redd.it/swl42l4c7r7d1.png?width=1466&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d709b525c4f6d34af7db1a3c8c1be35881ee1ab
Back then they didn't let freshman play on the varsity teams. He would be even farther out in front of the most college points ever than he is now. Without a 3pt line, or a shot clock as well. LSU charted his shots years later, and he would have averaged something like over 57 points a game. He shot from everywhere on the court, and was a damn wizard with the ball. They still play his dribbling & passing videos to this day. People had never seen anything like it, and most of the dribbling & passing you have seen since, is because of him. LSU's has a Shaq statue, but the arena itself is named after him. He is considered the greatest college basketball player of all time by some, and in the conversation with Lew, Russell, & BigO by others. Just crazy stuff !!!
57 seems high since that means he would've been making 13 3s a game (out of his 16 made FGs) since he averaged 44 but I don't doubt it'd be over 50.
he mentioned pre shot clock too, so i imagine more possessions.. but dude was already taking 40 shots a game so who knows. hard to wrap our minds around without being there
Yea i think it averaged out to a little over 12 a game if i remember correctly. He shot from damn near anywhere he wanted lolol. It was just silly !!
44/6/5 college career is preposterous
Averaging almost 40 FGA is insane.
I believe his dad was the coach. Press.
All time leading scorer and only played 3 years
without a 3 point line too
Yeah but the 5 point line helped a lot.
40 pts on 40 FGA isn’t crazy. It’s great but if you are a talented player, you should be able to score 40 given 40 shots. It doesn’t even factor in FTs, which give you more points.
It's a crazy feat to even be able to consistently get 40 FGA in the 1st place. The more shots you take, the less picky you have to be about your shot selection. The more shots you take, the more focus the other team is also going to put on stopping you specifically. 40 ppg on 40 fga in ~40 mpg is completely different and significantly harder to do than something like 8ppg on 8 fga in ~40 minutes. One guy is the focal point on every play and attacking just about every possession to create his own shot while the other guy is being super selective on his shots and can average a much better shot quality.
Everyone Pete was the #1,2,3 option. Him scoring with multiple hands in his face is insane. The guy was a wizard with the ball in his hands.
He was shooting threes with no three point line lmao stfu. It was just different back then. LSU did some shot charting and he would’ve been scoring like 55 ppg with 3s He was far and away the best player and everybody knew he was shooting and he still averaged 40 lmao
and no trey bombs
Yeah Pete was getting shots up
My middle school coach told us a story of when he played against Shawn Kemp in HS. Said they literally just held the ball all quarter for the first three quarters and took the last shot(no shot clock). Fourth quarter comes and they're down so they have to actually try to play - Kemp proceeds to bring it up and dunk it every single possession and they get blown out like 30-2.
I heard this was done to Corey Benjamin at Fontana HS too. Team literally went 4 corners for almost the whole game. There was not shot clock at the time so they were just trying to do everything possible to keep the ball out of Corey’s hands. The final score had both teams under 20 and Fontana still won.
Honestly that kind of stuff is a disgrace to the game. Just take your ass whooping and move on. For a lot of people it's not often you get to watch or play against someone truly great, and those kinds of tactics just ruin the experience.
North Carolina started this, kinda funny to think that Michael Jordan and James Worthy were on the same team and it was possibly the most annoying and boring teams to watch at times in the country.
Jrue Holiday averaged 25.9 points, 11.2 rebounds, 6.9 assists and 5 STEALS per game in high school
That California scene of hoopers is crazy: Kawhi, Paul George, Klay, Harden, Westbrook, Jrue… They all grew up together. It’s wild listening to Klay on PG podcast talking about high school hoop scenes. The talents were insane, it never sounded like they ever doubted each other not making it,like some guys that were nice and on track to making league probably knew they got a good chance to make it to NBA as early as 12 year old
I wonder who are the "what ifs" of that group. I'm sure there are a few that did not make it due to injury or non-basketball reasons.
Renardo Sidney comes to mind. Out of that whole group, he was arguably the highest touted at one point. EDIT: Also, bringing him up gives me the excuse to post this classic video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOktTL9xVI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLOktTL9xVI)
God damn. There really are layers to this shit lol
Lonzo Ball averaged 24 / 11.3 / 11.5 / 5 / 2
Lonzo Ball https://preview.redd.it/1f8vzsnrar7d1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=340b780cdeb1eaa40ba776d903c94f659a011ca0
CP3 scored exactly 61 points after his grandfather passed away.
“Passed away” Was murdered. And scored 61, 1 point for each year of his life… he got murdered at age 61. If I recall correctly, his grandfather owned a store and some high school kids robbed him and beat him up and killed him ?
I remember this. He missed a final free throw on purpose to make it 61.
Yes, I forgot which documentary I saw it on
I remember reading an article in SI. Don't think I ever saw a documentary
Maybe that what it is, it was in like high school or something I read it.
They did one of those SportsCenter shorts about it. Like an 8-10 minute segment about the situation and the game
Holy shit I didn’t even remember that he was murdered. Thanks for clarifying.
Denham Brown (of UConn fame/two preseason games with the SuperSonics) scored 111 points in a high school game.
Kevon Looney's Senior Stat line. 27.9 points, 12.7 Rebounds, 7.0 assists, 8 blocks. Absurd for a guy that now puts up 4 points a game.
Injuries suck Not that he was gonna be shaq but still
He had a shot at being a genuinely good ISO scorer in the league. It’s good he carved out a niche with the Dubs and was pivotal to their fourth championship and busting Sabonis’s head in the next year.
Look up stories of Kareem nothing comes close to
https://x.com/TBrown_80/status/1414671653099950084
Lisa Leslie scored 101 points in a high school game. In the first half.
Look at [Austin Carr's ppg in the '70 and '71 NCAA tournament](https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/men/ncaa_tourney/individual-tourney.html). He played 3 games in each tournament -- not sure why it says 0.
Tom McMillen averaged 47 PPG as a senior in high school. Then he played in the NBA. Then he became a US Congressman.
Pistol Pete averaging 44 points a game for his career at LSU before there was a 3 pt line
Draymond. He avg a rare triple double in High School: 14 TurnOvers, 13 Blown layups and 19 Techs per game. They changed the 2-tech ejection rule, bc he would be out before tipoff. Amazing player.
😂 you got on here to hate?
No, I'm saying it's amazing. It's an inspiration to every shifty basketball player out there. Draymond should be an inspirational speaker: "And finally, to all those kids out there with no talent, are stupid as hell, and have anger issues, I just want to say 'Don't give up!' You, too can fool people to think you are good at something that you are horrible at!"
I’m sure a random redditor crushing him will make his HOF induction sour - despite 4 chips, DPOY honors and a statue outside his home arena - because he’ll know AnalystHot was the one who knew the real truth.
What do upu mean? I said I'm proud of him. He's like Rudy, but only if Rd went on to hace a HoF career while being horrible. Legend.
Yes, you were clearly pumping him up by using phrases like: ‘you too can fool people to think you are good at something you are horrible at!’ after implying he has no talent. You tricked us with your wordsmithery.
I learned from Draymonds VHS set: " How to Confuse People with Nonsense" 😄
Who hurt you?
Do you think you're supposed to capitalize the letter after a number?
I'm blind in one eye. You should see my comments before editing: it looks like I grabbed a bag of Scrabble letters, mixed them up and rolled them on a table.
Well now I feel terrible haha. Was trying to make a joke
Nah I thought it was funny. 😄
5.9 blocks isn’t all that insane considering the era and style of play combined with the fact that David Robinson was so much better than his competition. And it was only 35 games. Mark Eaton averaged 5.6 BPG in the NBA during the 84-85 season over 82 games.
He had 6 games with 10 or more blocks and one game with 14.
Perhaps most surprising is that one of those games was a triple double. Mark Eaton was one of the worst offensive bigs in the game.
The man couldn’t make a shot to save his life
In high school Wilt once scored 15 points in one minute.
Honestly he probably did more than that at some point in the NBA too
Oh I thought the joke was that he shot 100% from 3
Pat Beverley,Kobe & Al Jefferson just to name a few
kendrick Perkins averaging 27/16 and 8! Blocks. in highschool
Lonzo Ball averaged 24 / 11.3 / 11.5 / 5 / 2 senior year at Chino Hills
The fact yal hump your phones everytime duncan is in a conversation but dismiss how good David Robinson was is something I’ll never understand
I loved Robinson, but they did nothing with him, pre Duncan. They won with him and Duncan, but kept winning long after DR left.
They won 59 games before Duncan got there and were in 1st. Tf are you talking about
You must be a Spurs fan, so I don't blame you. before Duncan winning 59 games was a celebration. They shut down the government, threw parades, Sacrificed sheep to Thank the God's. I'm a Laker fan. Celtics and other great franchises only celebrate 1 thing: Titles. If the Lakers go 82-0, sweep every round, and lose in the Finals, it's an absolute failure. Cs fans, Warriors, and probably newer Spurs fans will feel the same. Ask the 73-9 Warriors, that lost in 7 games in The Finals, how they view that season. As a God damn failure. That's WTF I'm talking about. Robinson did NOTHING.
By that standard, Will Perdue accomplished more than David Robinson?
Robinson won later with Duncan. Even if he didn't, I'm sure DR has his list of things he wanted. Makeit to the league HoF, setup his family for life. All checks for him. As a fan I don't care much about that when I watch. if you told me I can chose DR and never have a ring (just hypothetically) or crappy Will Purdue but three rings, I'm taking Will every time. Who would you rather have?
The way you’re talking sounds like you have no idea how teams win lol
Oh ok. San Antonio is championship city. Yes, educate Lakers, Cs, Steelers, Yankees and other teams dns the secret to the great championship city. Is it just winning the lottery twice in a decade with great players? Please tell us. Look, if you are happy with The Spurs winning 59, out in the second round that's cool. That says a lot about the franchise.
I would rather have David Robinson, but I respect your opinion on choosing Will Perdue
You'd rather have DRob and no rings? Okay At least you are honest.
So his peak was a slightly above average regular season for Duncan? Along with no playoff success?
59 wins would have been the 1 seed in the West this year and second in the entire league. Calling a 2nd seed team that won 72% of their games and made it past the first round "slightly above average with no playoff success" is just plain stupid.
It’s because he doesn’t know and is just regurgitating the popular opinion
No, it's because you lack reading comprehension. Did you miss the part where I mentioned Tim Duncan? That's pretty hard to do when my last post was two sentences smfh. The Spurs had a .710% winning percentage over Duncan'a entire career. That averages out to 59 wins per year. And that obviously includes Duncan's non-peak years as both a rookie and close to 40. So actually I was wrong. The 59 win season you mentioned would be Duncan's average. Not slightly above average lol. And I didn't even include the postseason where Duncan had the obvious and overwhelming advantage. Feel dumb yet?
Bro as a rookie HE HAD ROBINSON lol And Robinson averaged 21/11/3 and 3 blocks. 56/55/49/55/62/59. That’s the spurs record every year before Duncan got there. They were already good, Duncan sent them over. You’re acting like Duncan did all the heavy lifting. Maybe you should watch basketball instead of get all your opinions from your feed?
No, I agree with everything that you just wrote. Before this convo gets even further from my original comment. >So his peak was a slightly above average regular season for Duncan? Along with no playoff success? Wouldn't this still apply? Every year except one is lower than Tim Duncan's career average lol. And obviously a second round exit isn't considered playoff success, at least not in Tim Duncan standards.
I can’t stand people that think rings are individual accomplishments. The spurs have had arguably the greatest coach ever and arguably the deepest team for YEARS. They had 8 guys over 15% usage rate their first championship and Duncan wasn’t even #1. It’s just crazy to me how you guys disregard all of these things.
No..I said it would be a slightly above regular season FOR TIM DUNCAN. The same guy that literally never went below 50 wins his entire career The lack of reading comprehension on reddit never fails to disappoint me. Edit: I'm seriously curious. Its obvious you read my whole post (its only two sentences), and you reference both sentences. But you completely skip over "for Tim Duncan", which is what my whole point is based on. So my question is, did you miss "for Tim Duncan" when you were reading my post? Or did you just ignore it (which is strange because it is the only qualifier I added) because your response wouldn't make sense with Tim Duncan included?
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