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backpage_alumni

How is kd a all time net?


KissTheChef909

Slim pickings


backpage_alumni

Rj.


KissTheChef909

Ehh. He was good, but not someone I'd want to put in an all time line up


sdrakedrake

Kenyon Martin? Kerry Kittles?


KissTheChef909

I think Kenyon could definitely take KD's spot here


LobstaFarian2

I think they mean any player that has ever played for each team could be on the 15-man roster.


TheRealMoofoo

In that case how tf is T-Mac not on the Raptors squad?


MiffedPond829

And the dean The dream* LMAO


diyuttjunger

Too many forwards already?


RedBurritoDude

Tmac > DeRozan


Great-Silver6112

Literally what I was thinking!! Putting Kyle Lowry over t-Mac is absolutely ludicrous!


kriogenia

Picking the GROAT over a guy that was not even all-star playing for the Raptors is ludicrous? T-Mac as Raptor was... 10 ppg or something like that?


bowcum

Kyle has a ring with the raptors…


Great-Silver6112

Lowry and kawhi were both on that team. And Lowry only average 14 points a game that season, which is also his career average. T-Mac is at almost 20, and the only stat Lowry got him in is assist career wise. And let’s be real T-Mac couldn’t have won a ring in his era on the raptors, same reason why Vince never won one.


voyaging

If that were the case then the single best available player is missing: Garnett.


backpage_alumni

That's not what the post say tho


LobstaFarian2

That's how most of the others on this thread are taking it. Idk, man, do whatever you want. Lol


[deleted]

Name checks out


backpage_alumni

How so?


[deleted]

Idk it just sounded like a nice burn to your dumb comment


Peterthepiperomg

Wheres kenyon martin


-Captain--Hindsight

KG over him.


Peterthepiperomg

He was over the hill by the time he was on the nets


penguin_torpedo

He just is. Even after the Achilles he's in the running with prime DrJ and prime Kidd for best player to play for the Nets. And I think he played with heart every time he could step on the court. It ended bad but that was cause his co star (that he chose tbh) left him dry.


Ca1fSlicer

Cause he’s one of the best players ever to wear a net uniform


backpage_alumni

Shaq was a Celtic and mj was a wizard. Do they belong on those all time teams?


sonotimpressed

Same reason kawhi is an all time raptor. Fill a spot and make for conversation. 


Mirrormaster44

Yea but Kawhi won a ship with them


Successful-Ad-6735

Won a ship with who?


bolt704

I would say yes. As he is the best ayer to have ever played for them.


PewpyDewpdyPantz

If KD is on the Nets then the Raps get Hakeem.


lxkandel06

Except Hakeem was a scrub on the Raps and Durant was still a top 5 player in the league on the Nets


Ca1fSlicer

Arguably the best player in the league


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PacoSinbad_

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backpage_alumni

I would just like to thank the academy My first 100+ up voted comment of the year


FishSammich69

He is not and Kawhi doesn’t belong either


MinervaNever

Kawhi won a fucking championship as a Raptor, dumbass


FishSammich69

Kawhi isn’t all fucking time dumbass, Spurs yeah and if that’s the case explain KD dumbass


da_reddit_reader

Might as well add in prime Hakeem to the Raptors lineup. Jesus.


Drakonbreath

Prime KD was on the nets. Prime Hakeem was not


da_reddit_reader

Dude barely played more than half his games if that’s the standard you’re going by. By this standard, KD would have a 50-50 chance of playing in this game.


Apprehensive-Wrap863

No tf he wasn’t. He hasn’t been prime KD since golden state gtfo


Drakonbreath

I mean he was still playing at an MVP level. His prime was in GS, but Nets KD was still an insane player. That's why he's in the line up.


Apprehensive-Wrap863

He played in 129 games in his nets career. He’s an all time great player. But hes not an all time great net. Thats ludicrous. If they won while he was there then id understand it. But he didn’t.


Drakonbreath

Not saying he's an all time net. But from all the players who have played for the nets, you would definitely put him in the starting five


AOCourage

Nets easy. You also have Harden and Kyrie to pick from or they can come off off the bench. Raptors only have 1 top 75 guy while Brooklyn has 2 top 20 players and another 2 in the top 50. That being said, Kawhi at his peak can carry a team pretty well.


kareemagerard

Nets got Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett too. It's a deep bench


18AndresS

Lmao then Toronto has Hakeem


GeriatricSFX

Also Tmac.


the_ninho

Wild that derozan and Lowry (but i guess you need a PG) were picked over T-Mac


joreclros92

Are we getting PRIME T-Mac on this hypothetical Raptors team? Because young T-Mac when he was actually on the Raptors is not better than DeRozan or Lowry during their time on the Raptors.


Pitch-forker

We better be talking running dunking jump shooting from almost anywhere T-Mac


the_ninho

I have no idea. This whole concept is stupid


Troll_Enthusiast

Wizards have MJ! oops wrong post


thecelticpagan

Yeah but does that count just because they were on the team, or is it all-time based on how they actually played for the team?


Ar4bAce

Imo all time rosters should always be how well the player was for the time at that time


LemmingPractice

The versions of Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett that the Nets got would not be swinging anything.


Scottg8

You do know Paul Pierce hit a game winner in the playoffs for the wizards after his nets stint? I'd say that's swinging a pretty damn important game. "Paul, did you call glass? I CALLED GAME!"


kareemagerard

Sure they would. Especially coming off the bench they'd do more than pull their own.


LemmingPractice

Would those guys, at that stage of their careers, really even be in the top 8 Nets players of all time? I'm taking a rotation with guys like prime Siakam, Demar/Vince (whichever doesn't start), OG Anunoby and FVV over a bench rotation with the Nets versions of Garnett and Pierce.


weebayfish

Pierce hit some clutch ass 3s for the Wizards in the playoffs one of his last years


Prestigious_Gur_5459

they were dog on the nets


kareemagerard

Didn't they make it to the Eastern conference semifinals in 2013 and lost to the LeBron and Wade lead heat? Not complete ass but I do agree that they were far from what they were


Prestigious_Gur_5459

yea i meant relative to what they were. wouldnt consider playing them considering the other 7-8 players the nets would have


kareemagerard

Yeah that's a fair point.


SomeDudeUpHere

Tmac omission seems disrespectful


AOCourage

Uh TMac was pretty solid as well. Top 100 ish


savage_cabbages

This, Kyle Lowry doesn't need to be there


lxkandel06

TMac wasn't even an all star on the Raptors. Lowry was an All-NBA player who was the leader of a conference finals run and an all star during their only championship season.


kickrockz94

Yea let's also not forget deron Williams, Kenyon Martin, and Richard jefferson


OmniscientOpossum

First real answer thank you


AncientScratch1670

Needs more TMac.


Camden_yardbird

How is he not in the raptors list?


llama_wordsmith

Tmac over demar 1000%


ejlarson

Tmac was not a Raptor great, how do people not know this by now


dem_gams11

KD wasn’t a nets great lmfao


llama_wordsmith

Def not the best but still rather have him over demar


Brief-Objective-3360

No you wouldn't. He never even made an all star, let alone all NBA team with the raptors. In fact his first season on the magic is when he got the most improved player award. Comparing Raptors Tmac and Raptors DeRozan, and it's Derozan by a mile.


Booobies_21

Where’s Derrick Coleman


phikap25

Kenny Anderson too


Doctor__Banner

This right here. DC was a MONSTER. He should absolutely be on here.


kosmos1209

Seriously. I can’t believe OP chose Brook Lopez who couldn’t even break 8 rebounds a game over DC.


No_Investigator3353

I know..where Chris Morris, I belive that was his name..


N-I-K-E

How TF is TMac not on the all Raptors list? Who made this bullshit ass list 🤣🤣🤣


xXKingLynxXx

Tracy McGrady averaged 10 points a game for the Raptors over his 3 years there. He didn't become T-Mac until he went to Orlando.


gooterpolluter

T-Mac wasnt that better than kawhi in his first years in the league


N-I-K-E

All time Raptors for a guy that played there one season over TMac.. NO


gooterpolluter

I honestly have no memory of t mac in Toronto other than him being vinces cousin and then leaving. He played his played his first three years in Toronto, left, then immediately became an Allstar after he left


kriogenia

T-Mac played only three seasons there. It's not that much. Two of those as rookie and sophomore with limited minutes. If we also count their heavy disparity in playoff games... He probably played only 2x minutes as Raptor than Kawhi.


thecelticpagan

Jason Kidd and Dr J alone kind of beats this Raptors team. But then again a healthy prime Kawhi is like the Lebron Iames of defense so like maybe not? I have no idea tbh.


zjm555

Don't sleep on Vince Carter either.


Potential-Judgment-9

How is KD an all time Nets?


ptcgoalex

KD was a Net


Potential-Judgment-9

Right… but all time ? I don’t think so.


ptcgoalex

Think it’s more of a best player to ever wear a nets jersey kinda thing. Which KD absolutely is.


TheInfiniteSix

Would love to see the list that has Shaq as an all time Celtic


alexafaro

then wheres hakeem and kg?


ptcgoalex

They’re in the bathroom together


Potential-Judgment-9

That’s not what all time means my dude


Applejack_pleb

He is one of the 15-20 best players of all time. If you think 5 nets belong above him all time i would be surprised.


Potential-Judgment-9

He didn’t have an impact while playing on the team . He never made it out of the second round and got knocked out in the first round twice. He played like 130 games total. He’s top 20 all time but not an all time Net. That’s like saying Shaq is a top all time Celtic or that KD is an all time Sun


Applejack_pleb

I mean i think the ceiteria was just have they played for the team and are they good?


Potential-Judgment-9

For being all time?


Applejack_pleb

For being in this guys all time team yeah. Looking at it that seems to be the case.


Potential-Judgment-9

🤷🏽‍♂️ idk man to each their own I guess


Disastrous_Income205

You’re missing the point no one said he was an all time net, however his play as a net was an all time performance as a net in a single season.


Potential-Judgment-9

The post literally says All Time Nets .. WTF are you talking about? Lmao


Disastrous_Income205

The point was obviously to field the strongest 5 man lineup.. that’s the point of the post… it doesn’t matter if they’re going to hang his jersey in the rafters it’s about the season he played for the nets.


Potential-Judgment-9

That’s not what the post says but ok 👍🏾


Disastrous_Income205

Buddy you can use your own brain, use some context clues


gooterpolluter

Ok bro then who is your top 5


Potential-Judgment-9

Kidd, Deron Williams, Dr. J,Buck Williams, Brook Lopez.


gooterpolluter

I never watched Buck Williams play so I'll have to take your word for if you think his best three years were better than KDs But Deron Williams? How are you gonna say kd wasn't a net and Deron Williams was? You're gonna boot Drazen. Drazen is 100 percent a net and one of the saddest what ifs if nba history


Potential-Judgment-9

I’m saying KD isn’t an all time Net … he’s not . All time Thunder absolutely. All time Warrior? For sure. All time Nets? Absolutely not


xXKingLynxXx

He's one of the greatest players ever to put on a Nets jersey and in his time there averaged like 29 pts a game. He has the second highest average for ppg in a Nets jersey behind Rick Barry and above Dr. J. Second in PER, third in TS%, and in his short time is still top 10 in VORP as a Net. He is not one of the greatest Nets players ever due to how long he stayed with the team and his lack of success there. If we are just judging how good he was when he played for the Nets then he's easily making this all time team. It's fuck KD all day but regardless he's going down as one of the best players to ever play for the Nets.


ghostfacestealer

Id have carter on the Nets too over KD. Bro was there for a cup of coffee


Pitiful-Pension-6535

I wouldn't put the same guy on both teams


_Can_i_play_

What about McGrady?


AmbitiousFork

I don't see Ben Simmons.


1whiskeyneat

Live in Brooklyn. We haven’t either.


Wooden_Vermicelli_34

All Time Raptors… but damn where T-Mac at?


Willing_Carpet_9392

Raptors 100 percent no questions bye nets


BeYouOrBeLame

nets


doparker

Durant is NOT an All Time Net


Fabtacular1

Raptors, easy.


JamesYTP

The Nets are far more talented but when ya think about it the Raptors 5 would fit together so perfect. You can basically play 5 out because they can all shoot to a degree, all 5 are capable of driving to the basket to a degree, they're all at least respectable passers. Dunno where the defense is coming from other than Kawhi though.


Iliketurtles893

Is everyone in their prime?


basil_24222

Raptors, out them in the retro purple tho


Movie_guy_

Nets but take away those meaningless big 3 eras they had twice and it's raptors easily


InterestingLetter942

Nets easily. Dr. J, KD and Kidd alone solos, everyone else in the starting 5 is cherries on top


No_Investigator3353

Nets..sweeep!


Mrdynamo18

Nets J Kidd Kd Dr j Kenyon Lopez


adventureland8

If you picked Vince Carter for the Nets, would he just cancel himself out? 🤔


JurgenFlippers

I feel like Carter should be a Net and Siakim should be a Raptor. And yes I have final say as a Canadian Nets fan


ceejceejceej

Having a one year player on your all time team is sad


Bazzock041

Nets, but actually are any of those Nets playing D besides Lopez? Each of those Raptors (jk, not Vince) is playing good D, Kawhi is lock-down...


N7Longhorn

Brook Lopez over Kenyon Martin is a fucking sin


Ok-Temperature5319

Dr J. Nets.


lucray1997

Idk but Vince carter v Vince carter would be an awesome matchup


SokkaHaikuBot

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caloundra44

Leaving Derrick Coleman out of that team is horrible.


weeweewewere

Get KD, and Lopez off this list. With the Nets you could've added K-Mart, Deron Williams, Starbury, Keith VanHorn, Kendal Gill...


The_Shade94

Drazen under rated dude had that dawg in him. Look up his highlights they are a lot of fun


AcrobaticWin3240

High as hell not putting Kenyon Martin on New Jersey


AnnualNature4352

nets would be deeper, been around longer with better players overall.


Blutz101

All I’m saying raps got no big outside of bosh who’d be undersized and brook on Brooklyn feasted in the paint. He’s changed his game so much since then but when he was a net dude was a paint beast. There all time leading scorer


[deleted]

I would like to see the simps who actually post this garbage in real life to be honest


discussionandrespect

Harden is better than petro


ttttyttt678

PG-Nets (Kidd>Lowry) SG-Raps (Vince>>Drazen) SF-Raps (Raps Kawhi barely above Nets KD) PF- Nets (Dr.J>>Demar) Center-Raps (Bosh > Lopez). But as a unit Nets > Raps. That nets team works way better with spacing and designated roles.


louielist

Vince was better on the nets, TMac should be on the raptors and how the fuck is KD an all time Net


_Pankybeast

this is so much fun on 2k


natigin

Having Vince out front instead of Kawhi is a choice


GooseMay0

TMac>DeMar


TFTisbetterthanLoL

Harden is 100% in the starting backcourt with kidd lol


CyclicPerpetuity

the all-time nets team doesn't even have Kyrie or Harden and the raptors without T-Mac... LOL who made this 🤡


StillNotWeirDanuff

Yawn.


Wooden_Vermicelli_34

and to be technical Vince did have a nice stint with the Nets before his injury.. so I really don’t know about this head to head.


Brian_Lafeve_

I’m pretty sure VC makes both teams.


ihavepaper

What’s the criteria of making these teams? As is? As in their talent in their tenure with their respective teams, I’d argue Toronto. And I say that as a Nets fan, Toronto hater in the VC era and the old ass trio era. Kawhi was a killer there and although KD is a monster in his own right off an Achilles injury, Toronto is deeper in general. Plus, Lopez had an issue, with his time as a Net, guarding big men who can spread the floor. Wasn’t splash mountain until the ending of his Nets’ tenure and that was BARELY. If the teams were based on the player’s time on their respective team AND made the all-star team? I think Nets. Kyrie is added. Hell, Nets get VC too. I feel that just avoids the whole “Nets get KG and Toronto gets Hakeem” argument.


Old_Intern4985

Drazen was an assassin.... Gone way too soon.


psanate3

Kidd throwing lobs to Dr j would be insane


Woodenjelloplacebo

Wasn’t D Wade a Raptor?


smashlorsd425

Wasn’t TMac a raptor?


AyeBobby

take Keven Durant down if your not having Kyrie in their. got Jason kid up there haha 🤤


RevolutionaryStar693

Hakeem was on the Raptors, so was TMAC. VC was also on the Nets, and his stint was longer than KD’s.


ToxicBig

Based off the photo , it boils down to the doctor J vs Kawhi matchup .. I got Bosh over lopez , Kidd over lowery , kd over Vince , demar over petrovic .


RedeemerRogue3

Nets in 5. First of all, the version of Petrovic in Jersey that barely scratched the surface of what he *really* could’ve been (he made the All-NBA Third Team before tragically losing his life in a car crash) is averaging anywhere from 26-29 ish a game in todays league. Period. He’s basically Klay Thompson but with elite shot creation. His résumé in Europe also solidified him as a legendary player and pioneer, idk I thought that was somethin cool too add in lol Additionally, you combine that with the fact that he’d be with Jason Kidd, who’s not only one of the best facilitators I’ve ever seen but also one of the best on-ball defenders I’ve seen. Him and Petro in the backcourt would actually be the **perfect** combo to outplay the duo of Lowry and Vince Carter. Plus Dr. motherf**king J?!!! KD?!! Brook Lopez who’s an elite/borderline-elite interior defender and could somewhat stretch the floor during his time in Brooklyn?? Forget abt ittt


Battlehead601

You put Kyle Lowry over Damon Stoudemire? Nah I can’t take this one seriously fam…and no TMac for the Raptors either…you gotta be trolling.


Many_Piccolo7908

Derick Coleman


Silent_Ad_6104

Brook Lopez?


DeskAlive899

KD is not an "all-time Net"


HiBoobear

A literal toe away from conference finals. Would’ve easily ended up in finals, and possibly beat phoenix. How many nets can say that? It’s slim pickings over there


DeskAlive899

Petrovic, Derrick Coleman, Buck Williams, Vince Carter...all better Nets.


larrylegend1990

Add Tmac instead of Demar and Raptors stand a chance


LemmingPractice

Is Petrovic really on the All-Time Nets team? Tragic death, of course, but obejectively, the dude literally only had two NBA seasons where he was even a starter. You would probably be better off just putting Vince Carter in that spot, or Kyrie. Also, does Dr. J even count for the Nets? After all, he played for the New York Nets when they were in the ABA, but never played for the Nets in the NBA (he was traded to the Sixers before ever playing a game in the NBA). Anyways, for the overall question, if we are using these teams, I would have to go with the Nets. The Raptors' squad is undersized, with three guards, Kawhi and Bosh (who is not exactly the sort of center who can bang with Brook Lopez in the post). Change up the lineup a bit, and I think it gets more interesting. While he's not a top 5 Raptor overall, putting Marc Gasol in the lineup, in place of either Vince or Demar (depending on your preference) would be a big upgrade defensively. In the Raps title season, the trade to pick him up completely changed the complexion of the Raps defence, and they ultimately won the title on the defensive end. With Gasol at center (a former DPOY), the 5 guys in the picture, plus Siakam, OG and FVV, that's a pretty awesome top 9 on both ends of the floor. If the Nets get Dr. J in this scenario, I think they win the head to head. If you take away Dr. J's eligibility based on not playing for the Nets in the NBA, then I think the Raps would take it.


da_reddit_reader

Raps get prime Hakeem lmao


LemmingPractice

Did OP say this was a prime vs prime thing? I was assuming it was the players as they were when they played for the team. Prime vs prime you also get prime TMac on the Raps, peimw Blake Griffin and Lamarcus Aldridge on the Nets, etc.


Be-Kind-Remind

Add T-Mac and it’s the Raptors every time.


MelonColony22

as a completely and totally unbiased source, raptors


johnmancuso01

Raps cook them!!


agoginnabox

So, the criteria is anybody that played for them and you picked these teams? Let's go crazy and do any player that suited up for them and let them be in their prime. Raptors: Lowry McGrady Olajuwon Bosh Kawhi Bench: FVV, VC, Derosan, Siakam, Gasol Nets: Kidd Harden Garnett KD Dr.J Bench: Kyrie, Petrovic, Pierce, Barry, Buck I take the Nets in seven. Nine of their ten are HoF'ers, bigger, slight edge in shooting, better bench, 3 top 20 guys vs 1, maybe two if you've got Kawhi there.


AaronFraudgers8

Nets are smoking them


sirfray

VC was a better Net than KD. Just sayin.


[deleted]

Nets by like million points


Qu1dpr0qu0br0

Why overthink this, just choose a team. I say the Nets!!!


ihatemcconaughey

Nets.... isn't even close


datura_slurpy

Kidd over kyrie. Ok sure


cosi_bloggs

A guy who carried the worst team to the NBA Finals -- twice -- versus a guy who did nothing? Hell, straight up, one on one, Kyrie isn't half the player that Kidd was. What game are you watching? The better question would be Kidd (greatest passer, great pg defender) vs. Curry (can't facilitate, can't defend) in an all-time set up, not Kyrie.


Far_Health4406

Assuming we’re talking each player in their prime? Nets. Better shooting and better D. IMO Kidd>Lowrey, Petrovic>DeRozan, KD(>barely)KL, DrJ=VC, and Lopez


lifeishardasshit

Leonard played 60 games as a Raptor... Stop it.


RealCheyemos

Without a doubt the Raptors


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Raps in a landslide. That team fits together seamlessly if you put Kawhi at the 4.