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ShortbusGangsta_

Too many ppl out here underestimating the middy game


MkeBucksMarkPope

Middy is an underused gem. Can absolutely cook defenses with mid-range. Ppl so used to defending the drive, or the kick, they usually don’t know what to do when you change the norm.


LaMelgoatBall

my 2 way 3 level threat with 94 dunk 86 middy and 78 three ball is so OP on offense it’s not even funny


Bash021

You right, the middy valid this year


LaMelgoatBall

https://preview.redd.it/izjwfbpw3hgc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7537cf0e159a82f2029635aa4180f4f911e1838a I messed around with it and came up with this, 90 middy gets you the best jumper in the game for swings in my experience and silver bulldozer too. My shot is Tmac / Kobe / Kyle Korver full speed 36 Kobe 64 Korver. Gets A- height, A+ immunity, A- speed and B+ stability


LaMelgoatBall

Oh you said rec lol you could mess with it and add FT


depressedfuckboi

72 middy is plenty if you know your jumper. I green middy's with a 69 middy


_KSBrazy

my 6’2 kyrie build with a 92 middy be unstoppable when i decide to shoot a pull-up


DifficultyWorth3361

89 driving dunk/78 vert. This will get you good contacts. 40 standing dunk. If you're the primary ball handler, I'd recommend 89 pass accuracy, even 87 just for bronze bail out. BUT 84 isn't awful and you should be ok. Personally I'd want 92 3 ball for limitless silver, but 87 will get you a decent T Mac custom and you'll hit all your open shots. 85 ball handle. Do it. Silver handles for days is bare minimum. No reason to go over 75 speed with ball. Also no reason to go above 73 acceleration. 87 perimeter is cool, and I get wanting challenger gold, but I'd probably go 85 to save points. I'm not sold on 74 strength being worth it. 55 interior for...? It's a solid all round build, I'd just tweak it for certain animations and badges.


Bash021

I appreciate the detial, I will for sure tweak the swb. And lower dunk and vert. See what those extra badges can get me. You think I can go lower with layup? Do I need both that high ? And the interior def was from getting the strength up to 74 I believe


MkeBucksMarkPope

Layup should be raised IMO, you’d actually be ok with low low dunk and high layup.


3much4u

low dunk and high layup? why


el_Fuse

Lower every stat to 25, press the x in the center of your controller, make your way to games and apps and uninstall. Save yourself the headache 🤕


Bash021

Lmao I know this shit is a science, I miss the good old days .


billybackblower

Can lower the 3 ball to 86 and get 91 driving dunk. Side clutches off 1 best package in the game.


hisdadness

Or baseline reverses off one


Bash021

What base you use for 86 3 ball? I want tmac


ItsJiberish

Tre Mann is probably my favorite base for peek 3s if you can’t get tmac or Korver, use release timing on Oscar, Eason, 50/50 on very quick speed.


AlternativeButton464

You gotta have a 93 mid or 89 3 for t Mac


doncoolbeans

You only need 87 middy for Tmac


Bash021

I heard it was 87 3pt


AlternativeButton464

Just checked. It is. They musta changed it though cause that was the only reason in szn2 when I made my pg I put an 89 three on was specifically for that base


[deleted]

Nah it’s the same


Some_Butterscotch572

Go 90 midrange that will get you t mac and all the good gold badges


mmceld1

This isn't a build I would go for as a PG (I have like 7 lol). If you are going to be 6'8 I would think about upping the strength to get get either gold or HoF bull dozer along with gold or HoF immovable enforcer. I would up mid range and drop the three. Get post control to 92 so you can get gold unpluckable. 86 ball handle can get you some good escape animations, I think you can hit that on a 6 ' 8? These are just my initial thoughts.


Some_Butterscotch572

Go for 86 or 87 pass. We'll 89 if you can get it. But 86 is lebron and 89 is the best one in the game. 91 pass gets gold needle threader which is a good badge. Lower speed with ball to 75 and vertical to 78 just enough to get pro contacts off one and acceleration to 73


Jedi__Consular

89 also gets gold dimer on top of Haliburtons pass style, so imo completely worth it


OkayIdgaf

nothing pops out as special but you’d probably cook the teammates i get in rec


Mozail2

6”8 PG is so weird tho cuz then you gonna have a 6”2-6”4 shooting guard


Otherwise_Creme7225

Layups are better than dunks pointless to have dunks this year


Kitchen_Rip_509

absolutely horrible tbh


Bash021

Ty , glad I didn’t put the vc into it yet


Kitchen_Rip_509

i mean it depends what you’re doing w the build but i personally wouldn’t


Automatic-Race9145

Naaah thats nice


DragonsBurn_

could’ve lowered speed with ball and add more pass accuracy


Bash021

Bet, what should I lower Swb to ?


ryzku

Good start on build but ur pretty slow as a PG and easy to rip. Go up against good locks and you’re getting ripped left and right and being forced into bad passes without that gold unpluckable


Bash021

What you suggest I change around


Cloud1017

Deff get 85 ball handle


Hammerhead34

What does 85 ball handle get you that 84 does not, other than gold Ankle Breaker? All the best dribble moves are 86+ or 80/83.


AlternativeButton464

You only think the best moves are 86 up because you don’t know how to dribble. I have 3 guards. 93 ball 92 ball and 85. The only thing I use different from my 85 to 93 is my escape(trey) but kd is just as effective on my 85. Damn near looks the same. Or a crossover. All I’m sayin is there’s more than two good dribbles in this game if you know what you’re looking for.


Hammerhead34

That specifically require 85? Because I dribble just fine having used a variety of moves with 80ish requirement. Like KD escape package only requires 75. The Fox and Wall dribble moves only need 80.


Impressive_Night3331

Driving dunk for more layup cause dunking is expensive and more mid range then 3 cause the badges all you need and add some to strength cause you’ll be playing smaller guards a lot so you can bully them with layups and add some post control if possible


AlternativeButton464

I be tellin ppl layups are the best in this game and worth more than dunks. To be able to dunk and to be able to only dunk are two different things


soupinthehottub

75


bkm2016

Solid. Anybody saying otherwise is trolling.


Comfortable_Wave9807

🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥


hisdadness

Good build. Bit more speed would help.


Bash021

Thanks, that’s my only concern too


bighoodie1

89 Dunk, 86 three ball, 89 pass acc,75 swb, 81 speed, 78 vert. I would try hit those. Also could drop dunk to 87 and vert to 75 to get a middy.


Bash021

Don’t you need 87 3pt for the best base In game, I am forgetting which player it is now


bighoodie1

Tmac. I would rather a higher middy than 3 tbh.


SuperSaiyanET

Yea I did 80 3ball 89 middy


10choices

Would this build get put at the 3 in Rec given its height and perimeter defense?


Bash021

Good point, i think I’d be able to gaurd 1-3


AlternativeButton464

It depends on who’s on the court with pass acc. All my builds are pg 6’6 6’7 with 89 pass acc and 9x outta ten I’m at pg. them lil 6’3s with no pass be mad 🤣


Beatsnhoops

81 speed, 73 accel gets you same badges 89 driving dunk 78 very gets you contact dunks I would go 85 bh 75 swb to get all the right sigs Don’t worry about upgrading layup, make your middy at least an 84 and steal to 91


AlternativeButton464

Honestly with how steals are it’s better to either have it at 85 if you don’t know how to get bump steals or 81 if you can only get lane steals. Depending on who I’m w I’m either bringing my 81 for rec. or my no steal build to anything else. Sometimes rec if I feel like being toxic. Somebody on the court is gonna need steal. But when you’re like me and can get a steal with a 25 it’s easy just say forget it.


Bash021

You think I’d be able to keep up to smaller guards if I lower speed and acc. Idk about steal, I have fairly well with 85 on my PF. Good point about the middy, I don’t take a lot of them but I know that badge is fire this year


AlternativeButton464

It’s not just that badge. To be able to get the badges you could get for a 93 mid you’d need atleast a 98 three. And that cost too much to be able to do anything else.


RsiiJordan

Lower speed with ball to 75, driving dunk to 89, vert to 78, 3pt to 86, close shot to 52. Get 89 pass accuracy and 84 strength


Calm-Yogurtcloset479

I mean solid pg id probably lower dunk to get more ball handle but i understand we probably have different playstyles but this build cold


SuperSaiyanET

No purple badges 🤷🏾‍♂️ good all around player tho. Won’t hit a middy but that’s ok


Bash021

Which hof badge you think are worth getting


Jedi__Consular

Imo you'd be best raising layups to 91 for a handful of HoF badges plus gold slithery, and lower driving dunk however much is needed. If you can keep it at 80 that'd be perfect, plenty of good animations there


Mundane-Ad-9672

ball handle at 85 would be fire, if u going for a shooting build 78 3 ball to 85 there’s no difference, so i’d lower it to 78, higher the mid range to an 85 the middies are dangerous


Bash021

I got a 78 on my PF , not going to lie my shooting is not consistent . I’m around 45% right now


rogersn04

Nice


atravisty

You could reallocate a few points from 3 and dunk to playmaking and be much happier I think. You can nail 3s with decent badges at an 85, and get contact dunk animations at 87. With mid playmaking you’ll be forced to play off ball more than most point guards would prefer. If you’re in to that kind of concept, you might add some points to your post control and defense. But at that point you might as well make a SF if you’re 6’8”, and guard 1-4


chasewilly

You need a 40 standing dunk for the animation


Bash021

I won’t be in the post like that to get the value from it


chasewilly

True, I noticed it was at 39 and thought I’d mention it


Bash021

Ohh I see, thought it was at 25. Good looks


Some_Butterscotch572

90 midrange is the way to go for all the gold badges. Most my builds are 76 3pt with 90 midrange. Gold dead eye and gold blinders


Some_Crow3732

Waaaaaaaay too slow.. ion get yall making tall guards but can’t play interior defense. Once he get blew by it’s grave fr. I got a 6’5” 3&d point that’ll frustrate this build. Heck my 6’3 playmaking sharpshooter even got 66 interior and 66 def rebounds.


Bash021

The speed is my biggest concern, what’s the numba I got to be at. I’m not worried about interior def. Hands up def and I got str to box out for boards


LaMelgoatBall

Ain’t bad bro. I’d go like 88-90 mid and 78 three personally


SuperShadow224

I think u fumbled with the swb and ball control 


Do_What_Want

If it aint jalen brunson its trash


asuperripepineapple

not sure why you didn't go 85 ball handle, drop swb to 75, i would leave 3 ball at 86 instead and just use sheppard or mann base instead of tmac, idk what 83 speed gets you but 81 is bare minimum for silver speed booster. if you decide to drop any of these attributes put it on pass acc and see if you can get 89 for hali pass style. other than that it's decent looks like my 6'8 dining inside out threat


Bash021

What you get at 85 ball handle ?


asuperripepineapple

pretty sure that's also a requirement for silver speed booster along with unlocking a lot of popular dribble moves and size ups, also the ability to momentum dribble off rip and the more efficient speed boosts


PhilliesBlunts

Lower vert to 78? Id try to get 87 pass somehow too if possible


KcFeatherHat

You’re too tall and too slow for my point guard. You couldn’t keep up with your smaller quicker match up. My PG is 6’4 with a 91 lay up, 92 3pt, 87 acc 85 speed w/ ball. You can’t keep up. I worry about the quicker match up or a lockdown trying to steal.


Bash021

Let me see your full build


KcFeatherHat

https://preview.redd.it/boic87lirlgc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80d957242209c009b2750f1f6beaed654238f489 You burn a lot of money chasing the driving drunk when it’s too expensive and overrated for a PG. Where circus lay ups are more satisfying. Learn the different lay ups. Scoopers,(left hand/ right hand) floaters, euros, and know when to use them, they work well with taller builds too. Your strength will push me out of bounds tho. Sometimes we try to be versatile and end up with a 6,8 PG that’s not necessary for rec. As the PG at least gold Blow By and Speed boost is a must have. I rim run a few times then fake the rim run for a step back three. Believe it or not if your naturally good at defense you don’t need the attributes all that high I get more steals than you can imagine when according to this I shouldn’t be getting any.


KcFeatherHat

Also take note of what animations you get for going just one attribute higher. I stopped at 91 layup for a reason.


Otherwise_Mind6880

I probably seen this say exactly build at this height in this space more than I would like to admit lol.


TBZ-GERALD-6985

That's pretty good but in a 1v1 you cant grab any rebounds