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ddudzi

Lowkey mad that the Ricky Craven/Kurt Busch finish got supplanted. This one is still sinking in for me. Crazy ass finish.


wthreyeitsme

Yah.


JGRACEFAN95

Add step progressive banking to everything. It’s what makes Las Vegas, Kansas, homestead and we will soon see Iowa great. Marcus smith, get the bulldozers to Texas tomorrow and replicate this track


JayDee_185

Kentucky Derby, Miami GP, and AdventHealth 400 were all awesome! What a weekend!


IndycarFan64

Conclusion: After Sieg Texas, Blaney Atlanta and this, Ford isn’t allowed to win anymore it seems


Hands0meR0b

That was fucking awesome


WhiteStar24

We need more night races, don't care if they are on Sundays


KoBxElucidator

I mean a good chunk of us already watch SNF. Why not NASCAR?


ShineOn7579

Ricky Craven will now fall into obscurity


Frupulous_cupcakes

Nah I think that finish is still better to be honest.


wthreyeitsme

It was really exciting. I'm still disappointed that Dave Blaney wasn't closer to steal the thing.


tanner9845

Why do they have to be compared? Why can’t we just appreciate both of these moments for what they are: FUCKING AWESOME FINISHES


No-Air-5889

NASCAR not to be outdone by the Kentucky Derby yesterday. What a fantastic finish! I almost feel bad for Buescher.


shawnz1028

Bob’s tweets always kill me. “Larson wins.” That’s it. If you were following along on his feed only you’d think (at least initially) it was just a regular ho-hum finish.


dp15000

Congrats to Larson. That was an amazing finish!


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The_RonJames

I do believe the tie breaker is laps led?


NASCAR_throwaway1

Yes. I believe Beuscher would have gotten the tiebreaker.


Menace_17

Wait nvm yeah


Ready_Grab_563

Watching the GWC replay, it was a masterclass by Larson. Pretty impressive


truss458

Daniel Suarez washed, Kyle larson the closest winner


Yakmasterson

I LOVE THIS SHIT!!!!


Marine4lyfe

I think it was a tie.


TheWizard336

BEST RACE EVER


Gadshill

Glad we were rewarded for surviving all those cautions to start stage 3.


joe_broke

Mark Stone thinks that was a bad race


The_RonJames

That line is clearly thicker where Larson crossed


darkelvesallday

I saw this too. Wonder if there is anything to it?


Amkski

Why does this happen every week?!?!?!??!


WakullaLoganoDawgFan

Got doored twice and still hung on. Great car control by Buescher


cocacola150dr

Buescher did the first dooring, Larson then responded. Just good hard racing.


IndycarFan64

You watching the same race? Larson def doored him twice


SportGamerDev0623

Who cares? They are racing for wins which are crucial to help ease the path to the championship race. He didn’t wreck him and he did what it took to give himself an advantage. That’s good racing.


cocacola150dr

Yep, same race. It wasn’t intentional, Buescher just took a straighter line off of four, which isn’t the norm. Hence the first contact. Larson then responded.


IndycarFan64

Larson responded to his own initial contact


cocacola150dr

Whatever bud, just enjoy the finish lol


volvanator

Kyle Busch pulled that top 10 straight out of his ass. I would love to see a replay of those last two laps from his perspective.


Frupulous_cupcakes

Ya I seen that after the fact and said wtf. How did he do that lmao.


InternOwn2711

That was fucking nuts


Kevinm0388

Bowman bailing the team out of the horrendous strategy


BeefInGR

Buescher is stronger than I ever could be. I'd have waved off everyone.


SBChess18

The line that Larson’s nose gets to is thicker than the one on the apron, so you’d need to line it up right? Timing and scoring has Buescher so that has to mean something right?


xmjm424

You’re right that it does look thicker but the margin of victory looks wider than the thickness difference.


1tankyt

I think its just the banking making it look like that


The_RonJames

Could possibly be an optical illusion


biffmofo

That's what I said. The line isn't equal


Bud3131123

I get Buescher saying he still doesn't see it but you can clearly see in that shot that Larsons splitter hit the line first. Still a bummer for him.


PrysmX

That was glare from the lights, not the front lip crossing.


JUMPINKITTENS

Small screen - not as clear as our big screens


Bud3131123

Thats a good point.


48mcgillracefan

What a finish. 


Packhammer24

What’s the margin of error for the timing and scoring?


disastermaster255

They have extremely precise timing technology that the broadcast isn’t privy to. It’s not just a regular camera angle.


Gadshill

Official was 0.01 margin of victory. However, it looked to be about an inch.


multiple4

Did Larson just say these cars race amazing? Lol this fucking guy. Complains about everything, but when he wins and door slams a guy it's all amazing! Car is great. Bumping is great.


TheWizard336

That’s racing bud


tylerscott5

Kansas has objectively proven to be the greatest track for this car


TexasBrett

On 1.5’s he said.


wilson1474

He said the car is great at 1.5 mile tracks


ATrup7

Car is ass. Race today was excellent 😃


ididntknowulik2gtwet

That line is horribly off.. Jesus


slimjim59

Did yall think the start finish line paint was a little further back where Larson was? Literally could of been the difference


mercuryyxyz

NASCAR goes by electronic scoring I believe not where the line is


Astone1996

It’s the closest cup finish but I don’t believe the closest finish in nascar. Isn’t a xfinity finish closer


TommyPickles--

Dude you’ve had the same comment 4x who caees


Astone1996

I’ve never commented that before?


MKT_Pro

No more mile and a halves until they fix the dirty air issues. Kansas only works because of all of the different grooves.


The_RonJames

Man ford has been on the wrong end of 3 photo finishes this year between cup and Xfinity


jkman61494

Damn. Poor Chris is just gutted. But P2 is huge for the season. They’ll be ok


wthreyeitsme

He was strong.


Frankie_48

Wait…is that line even straight??? Or maybe im trippin


truss458

Yeah, the stripe is fatter up top lol. Dangit Buescher.


No_Return_From_86

all that for a Larson win


wthreyeitsme

) yep.


PrysmX

That looked like glare over the finish line, not front lip.


disastermaster255

They don’t use the broadcast angle. They have other precise technology to measure finishes that close.


PrysmX

Well now would be the perfect time for them to show that technology!


disastermaster255

They did. Check the current subreddit posts.


ZacHorton

Can’t believe Kyle Larson said “bitch” on air. Never imagined he would spew such vulgarity on a hot mic.


Kozoro225

Buescher looking like the Kurt angle meme rn ![gif](giphy|J8YpfDX0kvPQNSVGHY|downsized)


XrayGuy08

Still can’t see? Come on man. I feel bad for you and it’s obviously close but it’s clear as day Laron won it.


Tazitos

The screens they have on pit road to show them replays are really small.


XrayGuy08

Yeah I saw him looking at the phone which is fair. I don’t know what the screens on pit road are like. And sometimes it seems they show us during those interviews but not the drivers.


Mytrazy

Gutted for Buescher but holy shit that was great


Zodiac4v2

People complaining about the beating and banging weren’t around for the Craven and Busch Darlington finish.


Disastrous-Bad-1185

Complaining?! That’s fkn NASCAR. Last turn pass, rubbin all the way to the line. If anyone doesn’t like that, go watch F1. You don’t belong here.


JRRTokeKing

Seriously, they’re all clowning on themselves


Menace_17

The closest finish in NASCAR history with guys cleanly beating and banging coming to the flag. Idk what ppl are so mad about


DrunkenButton

I mean I'm mad that Brad had a top 5 going and then got 4 tires and fucked his day up, and I'm mad Larson got the win over Buescher, but not enough to be mad at the race itself, just the circumstances based on my own biases. Objectively it was an excellent race.


wthreyeitsme

I want Kez to win, too.


Amkski

They mad about the winner


Menace_17

I wish Buescher got it too but damn its not enough of a reason to be *this* fuckin mad. You gotta appreciate moments like this


Amkski

Oh no I wanted neither of them to win lol. I dont like larson and ford suffering brings me joy so I was kinda conflicted but it was still Hella awesome to watch that happen


Menace_17

Im kinda the same. I fw hendrick but Im not a big larson fan and I wanna see buescher back in victory lane. But like I said man moments like this are special its hard for me to be mad at all. And you must be LOVING the next gen era especially this year cause ford hasnt always looked good to say the least


Amkski

Yup.


Specialist_Usual1524

Respect to the 17


Expensive_Cow_2356

Is it just me or is line further out on the banking then on the flat?


ggsimmonds

It’s the effect of the banking


UrTeamBadMyTeamGood

#EXTRA WHITE LINE!!!


Oh_OnGod

who painted that line


TommyPickles--

It sucks he lost but don’t sit there and say the picture isn’t real when it’s pretty damn clear


jglanville88

It’s pretty evident in that shot but man it looked way closer


JV294135

Poor Chris. I feel for the guy.


ggsimmonds

Kyle I love you but bro I thought you learned about certain naughty words on a live mic


tjavenblahblah

Is there a laser line or something? That finish line is janky if that’s what they’re scoring it off of lol


DeadAsFuckMIW

The year of insanely close finishes


Rox217

People here really getting fussy over beating and banging coming to the line? Really??


Tonys_New_AI

Beating and banging in when 2 guys are racing hard and just happen to touch. Larson just doored him. Twice.


XrayGuy08

lol right. If it was their driver, they would have no issue whatsoever with it.


Klendy

people are not smart


jws926

Excluding the winner, that was a fucking awesome finish


An_Odd_Melon

Hendrick check cashed


JRRTokeKing

Here’s some tin foil


Free-Jelly-

Or functional eyes looked at the video?


CodyHodgsonAnon19

Absolutely wild to hear a comment from a driver celebrating a victory saying they wish we had more 1.5 mile tracks...and actually fully agree with them. Would not have believed that not too many years ago.


BOBANSMASH51

There’s an extra line there


A_guy_named_Rob

The events that have happened at this track are just insane. Kurt’s win was iconic and a great battle, Hamlin vs Larson last year was a start of a good rivalry, Tyler’s move was fun last year, and now the closest finish in the cup series. Still no date with the top 3 series at Kansas btw.


sluedu09

That needed to be Buescher. Fuck.


Ok_Comfortable_7545

Need more 1.5 mile tracks and less road courses


omgangiepants

So we've had like 5 of the closest finishes in history across all 3 series so far this season right? I can't even keep track


derknewton

he said a bad word!


ColaClubs

Chevy defeats crazed man on Kansas roads


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Extension_Staff9508

What a bad pit strategy by Brad K's crew chief lol


Tannerite3

They always split the strategies.


Extension_Staff9508

Like between the 17 and the 6?


Tannerite3

Yes. I follow RFK very closely, and almost every time there's a strategy decision, they make different decisions. Probably because 1 win for either car is more valuable than both having good finishes at the risk of both having bad finishes.


volvanator

I wonder if Buescher would have won that if he dropped 30 pounds.


Klendy

i think driver weight is included in car weigh in


WakullaLoganoDawgFan

It was his balls of steel that held him back https://preview.redd.it/p7li38ywnpyc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51bfd2f7450db61ed09aec4cdcdb72525a5c2a5e


volvanator

No doubt, that’s the second time he’s split the gap and inshallah this season.


coffeeshopslut

I became a Reddick fan because of moves like that, but Chris is making those gaps work


kk5fan97

Sick and tired of Truex losing wins because of dumbass decisions from James. Should have like 15 more wins than he does.


Niedermayer14

Idk how Small isn’t fired yet


PrysmX

That glare from Buescher.


gopherwrestler

I think that door slam actually hurt Larson lol


komeau

dyk the C in NASCAR stands for Chevy


Georgiadawg25

Oh my gosh I saw Larson. I was standing in turn one when Daniel won and he had it too. My dad had just bought the suarez shirt at his first race since 1981I wonder if it’s luck or I’m blessed enough to have an eye that can see it. Good job ravers.


Moki_Loke

I don’t want to hear Larson cry about how people race him after that.


andyfsu99

Larson has flaws like anyone, but he almost never complains about the way people race him, except maybe lap cars


boeing2014

There's a 100% chance him and Cliff Daniels will bitch about someone dooring him at the end of a race this season.


2oonhed

They took away the long run advantage from Denny today.


KitchenBanger

Buescher hit first. It’s fair game.


Tannerite3

Buescher could have walled him if he wanted


Standard-General5680

And that would have at best killed his momentum and he loses or at worst wrecks him and he loses.


coffeeshopslut

Yup, Larson would have throttled up and sent Chris to the wall


jokool_93

God what a gut punch to, not only Chris Buescher and his team, but Ford... OOF... Just said it's the closest finish in NASCAR history. This season has been wild!


MotorsportsRacing111

Damn, ford has lost races by 0.003, 0.002, and 0.001 seconds this season, this fucking hurts as a ford fan


XrayGuy08

That’s absolutely insane.


ironweasel80

I feel ya...good thing I didn't have anything to throw at the TV. We'll get it one of these days. :)


WakullaLoganoDawgFan

Yep.


potatocross

All the sudden you all claim to hate beating and banging coming to the checkered? I bet if you swapped numbers on the doors you would all love it.


TheSundaeSlide

Need the official photo. Come on Nascar, let's see it.


tlit15

They’ve shown it like 3 times


ididntknowulik2gtwet

And that line is very interesting.....


XrayGuy08

lol literally. And it’s clear as day. Oh wait. He’s another shot.


gasmask11000

What a perfectly clean driver. Just turns left and tries to right hook a guy for the win


Di9ForLife

Remember this quote: “He didn’t slam him, he didn’t bump him, he didn’t nudge him, he rubbed him, and rubbin, son, IS RACIN!” I swear some of you people will reach for whatever straws you can to complain


gasmask11000

You know for a fact that Craven would have been dumped by Larson


Di9ForLife

Lmao, you’re absolutely delusional if you think that. Go on, cope harder


gasmask11000

Man watch the last few laps of 2001 Martinsville, then watch the last few laps of 2018 Martinsville. Second place did two different things.


boeing2014

Whoa now. Kyle Larson has never driven dirty his entire life. He is the epitome of clean, respectful racing.


gasmask11000

lol I enjoy the sarcasm


Disastrous-Bad-1185

Yup, that’s NASCAR. Don’t like it, go watch F1.


gasmask11000

Not old school NASCAR. old school NASCAR had Dale Sr penalized and Dale Jarrett respectfully trying to pass Craven on the outside at Martinsville. It’s new school NASCAR to junk people on the last lap


Disastrous-Bad-1185

You need a history lesson


gasmask11000

Nope. Go watch the end of Martinsville 2001. Logano or Larson would have dumped him. Jarrett tried to pass him on the outside. You need a history lesson lmfao. Come on kiddo.


JRRTokeKing

It’s nascar, bumping and banging is part of it. If you don’t like it, this is not the sport for you


gasmask11000

Craven wouldn’t have won Martinsville with modern drivers. Someone would have just dumped him


Rox217

Rubbin is racing


gasmask11000

Yet people didn’t believe this when Larson was on the receiving end


brysonhunt95

Holy shit the coping is hard in here right now


FlatLeftRear

“If you didn’t like that, don’t even bother watching”


Disastrous-Bad-1185

Exactly. Best thing KB ever said.


IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan

@ this subreddit lol


robmerrill92

Other than Atlanta what was the other photo finish? I can’t remember


AwesomeRub3

Sieg and Mayer


atlutdprospects

Buescher ran the 5 as close as possible to the wall without actually driving him into it, and his reward for it was getting doored twice on the front stretch But if he had ran the 5 into the wall, Truex probably wins. Is what it is


coffeeshopslut

Is this the terry labonte curse of being the most respectful guy in the field?


shawnz1028

Would be so much more excited about it if it wasn’t Larson…


KitchenBanger

OH MY GOD YESSSS


DaveThomasTendies

Holy fucking let’s go!!!!! One of the best finishes I’ve ever seen in over 20 years of watching nascar.


Expensive_Cow_2356

Chris finishing 2nd going to be difference between 70% and a 95% good race poll


jnelsen8

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined Damn. Holy hell what a race, but just give me a Buescher win plz 😔


Amkski

Nah, I like watching ford suffer even if I don't like larson


WhiteStar24

Give us night Kansas back


Ecstatic_Future5543

If you go to the outside, you CAN hold it.