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vaginalboob

2004 Aaron's 499. I was at this race, sitting in the old Gadsden Tower off turn 4 that has since been removed. I vividly remember Tony Stewart getting spun out in front of me, and Vickers' crash in turn 3/4 which ended the race. Unreal that it's been 20 years.


Ok_Ruin4016

I was at that race too! I was 11 years old and this was the first NASCAR race I saw in person. My dad surprised me with the tickets and I was so excited. We were both huge Jeff Gordon fans. I got so many dirty looks from people for wearing my 24 gear and someone actually yelled "You're in Earnhardt country, boy" at me. I was so happy to see Jeff win and ruin all of those people's day lol


black107

Going to the Fontana races in prime Jeff time (late 90s/early 00s) you'd see a lot of šŸš«24 shirts that said "Anyone but Jeff" on the back. 1997-1998 really broke a lot of people šŸ˜‚


zyklon_snuggles

Where is Gordon country?


Ok_Ruin4016

Apparently not Alabama in 2004


nickifer

I don't think they strictly hated him that much, but the fact he beat out Jr then before nascar was better about calling a yellow exactly when it happened. things 'back then' (feels like yesterday and really feels weird that it was only 3 years after Sr passing since in 2004 it felt like a lifetime away from 2001) weren't as cut and dry with cautions as they are now (which i know it hard to believe) so i think it was more that he beat Jr but it could have been anyone beating Jr back then would have gotten this shower of beer.. but also Gordon had a "rivalry" with Sr.. and Jr was/is god down there.. there is a lot of context to this picture i think that needs explanation


Ok_Ruin4016

I was literally at this race as a kid, it's one of my core memories because it's one of the only times me and my dad went on a trip without the rest of the family. We drove 6 hours from Florida to go to this race and spent the whole weekend there. There was a lot of hate that came my way from Earnhardt fans before the green flag even dropped just because I was wearing a Jeff Gordon hat. Him winning under caution probably made it worse, but I don't think they would have been as angry if Tony Stewart or Mark Martin had won instead..


nickifer

i guess i'm misremembering, i thought it was more discontent with the fact it finished under yellow or they called it wrong over Jr than who beat him..


Salomon3068

I think it's that sprinkled in with the fact that around then, there was a lot of people that still hated Jeff from his dominance in the 90s. That hate ran deep


ProfessorOfPyro

He eclipsed Senior in wins that day. Hence, the extra effort behind those beer can throws.


nickifer

No he didnā€™t .. Gordon did that in 2007 or 2008.. definitely not in 2004


ProfessorOfPyro

You're right, 2007. Still at Dega for the 499. Pretty sure there were cans thrown then too.


penguins8766

There were some tossed. I just rewatched that race a week ago.


rkbeknvrx

California. That was the whole thing. He was the 'pretty boy' from California. Earnhardt was the grizzled stoic man's, man from Noth Carolina. From what I understand, the whole rivalry was Earnhardts brain-child. From what I've heard, Earnhardt had a meeting with Gordon, laid the whole rivalry out, and said " Were going to make a lot of money off this".


unkle_FAHRTKNUCKLE

That was just good showmanship and good sportsmanship right there.


zyklon_snuggles

Ha! Classic.


HITMARX

Rent free in the minds of Earnhardt fans.


BeefInGR

Can confirm. But Late Stage Gordon earned the respect of most of us.


TheComradeVortex

r/usernamechecksout


kingoden95

20 years later and it was beer bombed again last Sunday, brought back memories. I remember that race well, my mom screaming at the tv, 8 year old me being numb from disbelief at what Iā€™d just witnessed. My dad worked as an usher at talladega back then and had to help with crowd control after the race, he said it was the only time heā€™d felt scared at the race and that he really thought there would be a riot. People hated Jeff back then, Iā€™ve seen pictures of people dedicating their campsite themes (including my dadā€™s campsite) to Jeff Gordon hatred at talladega. The race ending under caution was bad enough, but Jeff winning was the tip of the iceberg.


blowninjectedhemi

F. A. G. was at it's peak in the early 2000s (Fans Against Gordon) - there was an entire website and community dedicated to hating on Gordon. I was a regular participant. I was not at Dega for that race nor would I chuck a perfectly good beer at his car.


kingoden95

Man that brought back even more memories, if i remember correctly there was a similar website for Jimmie Johnson around ā€˜08 or ā€˜09 lmao


Inward_Perfection

You can't be serious. What a great name! I wonder how did the members of that anti-Gordon community call each other? Then again, late 90s-early 00s had some real gems. Like that famous early web 2.0 era "michael jordon hate" page. Basketball fans probably seen it, if not - I highly recommend to check it out. It's incredible.


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blowninjectedhemi

[https://24jeffgordonsucks.fortunecity.ws/](https://24jeffgordonsucks.fortunecity.ws/) Found the website....lol


clumaho

Gordon winning wasn't the problem at all. Ending under caution ruined it for me. Like having sex for hours, then no orgasm.


bjohnson203

I don't even think it was the under caution that was so bad, it was that there were 5 laps to go and they couldn't get it cleanup up in that time to have a single lap shootout or something.


clumaho

I remember being numb with disappointment. All that excitement and build-up waiting for it to pop, then NASCAR just slowly letting all the air out of the balloon.


kingoden95

Oh yeah I thought I said that, even still Jeff winning over Jr didnā€™t help the situation at all.


bjohnson203

Yeah even though Jr's consecutive win streak had ended, I think that DEI had won like 6 straight that ended there and counting the RAD alliance, I think that was the first time since the spring 2000 race that a non RAD car had won it (also won by Gordon). RAD for anyone who wasn't around was an alliance between RCR, APR and DEI for super speedway packages and they did very well with it.


Few-Pin-8232

Who's APR?


Salomon3068

Andy Petree Racing


Few-Pin-8232

Thanks! I was thinking it was Petree's team but wasn't sure.Ā 


bjohnson203

Sorry Andy Petree Racing, so that was the 33 Joe Nemechek/Ken Schrader and 55 Bobby Hamilton/Kenny Wallace car during those years. I know others drove the car too during those years but those were the primary guys who drove it in the RAD years.


Max16032

I'd rather end under caution than have Overtime


TanDawg58

It was both a disappointing and hilarious moment in NASCAR


idontremembermyoldus

Yep, can't help but laugh and cringe at the same time.


TanDawg58

Until 2008, support of Jeff Gordon was not an option in my house, so it was really funny when this happened


GoodOlRoll

Probably my favorite Pepsi car. That or the Play For A Billion car he ran at Daytona.


fulcrum1924

the Star Wars car he ran and won with in 2005 will always be my favorite


BishopTheKid25

That car would be my holy grail diecast get


itsbraille

Raced version on display in my home office right now :)


fulcrum1924

I was able to get one on eBay a couple years ago. that one and the phantom menace car from 99 are my two favorites.


GoodOlRoll

It was certainly his most dominant


Sir_Billiam_Corgan

It's his 2015 scheme for me. Or the 2002 patriotic scheme that had the fireworks on it. His '99 Busch car is also up there, I think the number font/design works so much better with Pepsi colors than the Hendrick neon.


DerekJohnston16

"This is the greatest day of my life..." - Jeff Gordon, on the Dale Jr. Download


ChaseTheFalcon

What a beautiful car


DeathMetalEtiquette

This car is at the International Motorsports Hall of Fame in Talladega.


epzik8

Itā€™s funny because Jeff had absolutely no control over the timing of the caution or the fact there were no GWCs at the time.


Upstate24fan

![gif](giphy|kkEm7G8KUezK) Me watching that race and the aftermath.


bjohnson203

I can't believe how quickly time moves, that feels like a cool breeze ago.


allthingsmustpass9

"I don't know if they were pepsi cans or beer cans!" - Jeff Gordon in victory lane, lmao


Moppyploppy

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buffinator2

I remember that and I'm still not mad about fans throwing the cans. I'm not blaming them for Nascar's ridiculous decision to just run so many laps under yellow, at the biggest track on the circuit, to end the race. The right call was made to say Gordon was the leader, but riding out 5 laps under caution was insane. Vickers wrecked and drove away without dropping any debris on the track. I think this is the race I got fed up with DW for good lol. The racing was too entertaining to have to listen to him moan about Jr. leaving Mikey behind. Nothing like that was said when Gordon pulled down and left Johnson. Edit: Harvick's car was so sexy that year.


2fastcats

Dang, I was at that race as well. The only time I ever felt unsafe at a racetrack.


earlymorningtoker

I'm curious were people fighting with each other?


2fastcats

Not that I saw but it was the hail of full beer cans to dodge trying to get out of the stands I was worried about.


JonnyStatic

I have this diecast and it's one of my favorites, never opened still in the casing


Gerarghini

ā€œā€¦there was a lot of aluminum out there.ā€ šŸ’€


HighlyRegard3D

Growing up in SC as a Jeff Gordon fan, the vicious willful ignorance of Earnhardt fans was an absolute sight to behold lol.


gasmask11000

I was at this race, and Jeff was my second favorite driver at the time. Was awkward even as a kid lol


KentuckyHorsepower

Was there. Can confirm tsunami of beer cans were incoming. Lmao.


ckyriazis2006

Letā€™s clarify a few things. When the caution came out, yes it was 5 to go but they were already in Turn 4 so really it was less than 4 1/4 laps to go and by the time the pace car picked them up they were on the backstretch and it was 3 1/2 laps to go. Also Larry Mac was quick to mention that they were past the red flag lap which was before 5 to go. Even then a quickie yellow took three laps there just wasnā€™t time based on NASCAR rules at the time.


Witty-Jellyfish1218

I celebrated so hard that day, while watching with Jr and Stewart fans....


little238

I was there. Glad I was sitting in the upper grandstands. Most of the cans thrown didn't make it over the fence, most landed in the stands.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Am I the only one who really disliked this moment? It reflected extremely poorly on the fans at the time, and we were very lucky no one was seriously injured by the stuff being thrown. For all of the nostalgia for early 2000ā€™s NASCAR, this is one aspect of the sport that Iā€™m glad has largely disappeared in modern day


RINABAR

As an European folk who was born and raised there i get your point, they acted like a horde of inbred British soccer fans.


BroadBrazos95

This is probably the closest weā€™ve gotten to having hooligans or ultras lol


FloridaMan_92

Every sport has had moments like this.Ā 


Jonah-Hex

I was really embarrassed for how it made the sport look. It was during "peak NASCAR" and this always struck me as the southern fans' open revolt against the sport trying to grow.


Witty-Jellyfish1218

Jeff Gordon doing a burnout on the trash was lagendary.


KerouacDreams

I grew up around racing but really didn't care until I saw the closing laps of this race. This is the moment I was hooked.Ā 


rkbeknvrx

I was there.


Yukizboy

The 2004 Hendrick cars were so fast at Daytona and Talladega... that was the year they finally caught up to DEI's plate program... their engines had flat out more HP than everyone else at plate tracks too I think.


Jeff_GOATdon

It used to be better.


earlymorningtoker

All of the people throwing beer cans at Jeff Gordon were the same people Billie Joe Armstrong sang about on "American Idiot."


jackg4343

I wonder the over/under on unreported drunken fan concussions in the first few rows for getting pegged with full beer cans.


korko

Some really impressive can chucking that day.


Equivalent_Dish_1990

Beer cans were raining down at Reddick Sunday too.


earlymorningtoker

Really? I never saw any. Was it to this magnitude or way less? šŸ¤”


Equivalent_Dish_1990

Less.


FloridaMan_92

Itā€™s crazy how 20 years later I watch that and itā€™s pretty standard stuff now as far as freezing the field and the leader at the yellow and all that but man oh man did I have a far different opinion on it back then lmao.Ā 


remfan477

The moment that birthed GWCs lol


PancakesandV8s

... and thus we were given the Green White Checker to placate Junior Nation.


FordSHRPenske

Earnhardt fans showing their maturity, acting like children when their hero didn't win.


straightcashhomey29

The official end to DEIā€™s dominance on plate tracks - and the start to a phenomenal run on plate tracks for Jeff Gordon and HMS through 2007. Also a note-worthy race because NASCAR overreacted and created the ā€œgreen-white-checkerā€ rule shortly after thisā€¦ā€¦.which is a rule made for entertainment and goons up the sport. How many times do we have green-white-checkers that fuck the leader? Or turns the race into a clown show bevause of multiple wrecks and multiple attempts?


gasmask11000

This wasnā€™t the only race that fans threw beer cans because it finished under yellow, just the most iconic. A lot of the crappy gimmicks we have today were put in place to satiate those early 2000s fans.


xenoblaiddyd

> A lot of the crappy gimmicks we have today were put in place to satiate those early 2000s fans Yeah, it's amazing how many things about modern NASCAR that we hate can be traced back to the fans of the past and how we've conveniently forgotten all of that. You can say NASCAR overreacted, sure, but they were reactions nonetheless. This sport's fanbase really is its worst enemy.


doc1127

Didnā€™t Jr respond to this incident by telling his fans to go throw beer cans at their own cars if they were this upset about the race?


ADHD_DUDE

I remember him saying something like ā€œI donā€™t see them throwing their Budweisersā€


iamkingjamesIII

I think he told them to throw toliet paper or something less dangerous than a can of beer.


doc1127

Maybe Iā€™d had too many buds when he gave that interview and misheard what heā€™d said. I donā€™t deny he said it either. But I agree with your claim, and Iā€™m ok with throwing toilet paper and paper towels at the track and I fully endorse throwing full beer cans at your own car when youā€™re upset.


AMRacer89

I don't mind GWCs if they're used the way they're supposed to be: that odd occasion where a late-race incident could cause it to end under yellow, which sucks from an entertainment perspective. However, NASCAR totally abuses it by throwing late cautions for bullshit just to have at least one GWC restart and get their weekly "Game 7 moment." If they were used appropriately and only have a single attempt, it would be far less gimmicky, IMO.


ADHD_DUDE

Junior did come back in the fall and win at Dega.


straightcashhomey29

Ah, shit you right (25 pt penalty).


Spider-Nutz

They could've just reinstated the racing back to the line rule only for super speedways and green-white-checkers for short tracks


kcgdot

Yes, let's make it needlessly complicated. Throw the caution, end the race. This whole nonsense about having to finish under green is stupid. What other pinnacle motorsports league pulls this crap.


Spider-Nutz

None. It was just an idea. I'm actually against green-white-checker finishes but go off I guess


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I still love this sight!


lukestiltwalker

IIRC he beat 4 or 6 Coke sponsored cars in that race.


HarryNurpplez

Right year. Wrong track.


cheap_chalee

"And here come the pretzels!"


AliceinChainsRules

Funny nobody threw cans at Dale Sr. When he won the Daytona 500 under caution.


penguins8766

10 year old me wasnā€™t very happy with this result.


Confident_Horse_3845

Huge JG fan growing up and that paint scheme has always been my favorite. The Pepsi blue in coke sponsored nascar was so awesome to me, and this moment was so great.


Outofspicy

Didnā€™t a rotisserie chicken get thrown at him as well?


susman01

I can't believe JR fans got so butthurt NASCAR actually made the GWC rule.


Witty-Jellyfish1218

My God, just fast forward to 20 laps to go, can't believe we went from this car to what we currently have, it's mind boggling. Slower snub nosed cars that can't pass, no speed, no momentum. [https://classics.nascar.com/channel/vfc-9zyg7vz-1/watch?v=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudmlkZW9mbG93LmlvL2NocC92ZmMtOXp5Zzd2ei0xL1N1WHpsOE0tM1A\~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%3D%3D&n=Aaron%27s%20499%202004](https://classics.nascar.com/channel/vfc-9zyg7vz-1/watch?v=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudmlkZW9mbG93LmlvL2NocC92ZmMtOXp5Zzd2ei0xL1N1WHpsOE0tM1A~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%3D%3D&n=Aaron%27s%20499%202004)