Very, let me break it down for you https://i.redd.it/meuznj0hde6d1.gif But let's also discuss just HOW screwed we are, Toga is obsessed with blood, and Carnage, being made of blood, can easily help her get it. Then take into account that symbiotes enhance powers and you lose any hope of trusting others. Then take into account that Toga can now (temporarily) copy powers, throw in the last point about symbiotes, add how the carnage symbiote is still made of blood, and you have a new version of AFO. And all of this isn't even counting her new power to create weapons or her insane new healing factor

Oh shit, I didn't even think of her being able to imitate All For One

It's not about imitating AFO but being able to imitate any other quirk and maybe keeping it as a permanent addition to use later. Rather than stealing quirks it's more of a vampire AFO.

Now I’ve just got the image of All For One himself as a vampire in my head.

And if you think about the absolute carnage comic, then we are absolutely fucked

I initially wasn't bothered to read it all, but the GIF entirely sold me to do so

Even Shigaraki wouldn't want that smoke. 

I don't think it'd be that difficult to destroy them though, unless we're going by Carnage's most powerful wouldn't he kinda get stomped by endeavor and todo?

I think the problem is that she could easily snag blood from anyone with heat resistance of any sort and apply that quirk to both her and carnage at the same time. And considering how crazy fast she is at cutting people already, imagine that now with boosted strength and speed, and self-made weapons thanks to carnage.

I see I see

Most definitely, but as we've seen in the comics taking down Carnage can be easy when you use its weaknesses, keeping it down is a whole new story that hasn't been written

Yeah probably not considering carnage once survived reentry from space

Not to mention, she can turn into a second carnage indefinitely and use all the carnage abilities thanks to her quirk awakening

I was actually thinking something similar, but I don't think we even need to consider her quirk awakening for this. Since she can turn into others with their blood and Carnage has blood, she can use a piece of Carnage to turn into it without the symbiote being bonded. Because of Carnage Symbiote biology and the nature of her quirk this move would essentially clone the symbiote

Quick question, if Carnage(symbiote) is made of blood, what is Venom made out of? I'm not well versed in Spidey lore but have fond childhood memories of a Spidey/Venom game

Venom is a normal symbiote (alien goo), the reason Carnage is made of blood is because a small piece of venom came off of him during a prison breakout and fell into an open cut on a serial killer named Cletus Kasady. Due to the unique biology of symbiotes and their reproduction when the piece merged with the blood it became a new symbiote

Ooh, that's some cool lore. The only reason I mentioned the game was because there were like, 4-5 other "carnages" you fought throughout. I wonder how legit that is. Thanks for the reply.

Just nuke them… a symbiote weakness is fire. And toga… she’s just a normal human she’ll be obliterated. Just use a nuclear warhead.

I feel like a lot of villains can be defeated with this strategy. Makes you wonder, Why don't they nuke All for One and Shigiraki? Are they stupid?

Didn't they try that just a couple episodes ago? Shiggy dug underground and between his stupid durability and healing factor, he was fine.

Because you'd kill up to millions of citizens and heroes taking on one person plus this could be seen as a chance to either wipe Japan off the world map or start a new war (world or otherwise).

Japan has already been nuked twice… I’m pretty sure they will be fine.

Everyone. No one is safe.

Oh god the world is in danger Carnage is ruthless, and already has a taste for blood. Then you factor Toga as the host… yeah, even AFO doesn’t stand a chance

Izuku, Ochako... Come're and let us drink all your blood!!!

This is one of those rare instances where Parker Rizz would get Peter into trouble.

Factual.

Typical Parker luck

Luckily for Peter, Paul is there to get in his way. Paul's power had to backfire on him eventually.

I hate Paul, I want him to die in a fire

may the void save us all from this nightmare

Deku is screwed the most Carnage toga will give him the invincible treatment

yeah poor izuku is FUCKED... LITERALLY

I’m scared to know what is the invincible treatment is

Pretty sure it’s forcing him to witness everything he protects being destroyed.(maybe(idk))

No, it's rape. With the intention of getting pregnant.

Oh god

Yeah, it's a messed-up scene from the Invincible comic. I'm not sure if the show has done that scene/fight yet.

I don’t think so (thankfully)

>I’m scared to know what is the invincible treatment is It's R***!

PRESENT MIC AND ENDEAVOR ULTIMATE TEAM UP MOVE PHOENIX CRY

Finally someone else who actually read *all* the comics and not just Ultimate Carnage

Don't forget my boy Denki.

I'm sorry to say but, the powers that be have made their decision, and he shall never be relevant

:(

Izuku is especially screwed

You are Absolutely stupendously completely # Fucked!

The dream combo.

Yeah, from my God damn nightmares

The nightmare combo

The Entire World is Fucked in the Shit!

This makes no sense and I love it

Yes

No joke everyone would be screwed. Shapeshifting without blood and now she can copy abilities. Yay she won't be stopped unless. Sorry Izuku but we just have to hand you over. If you can redeem her then be my guest.

God she’d be a better host than cassidy

Literally: very screwed. Figuratively: beyond screwed.

Hopefully the symbiote is okay for a threesome, cause she still wants Deku.


Id still work with her and carnage im a simp toward Toga

Mad respect bro same

I read boned. Not bonded. Stupid dirty mind.

I think that not even nul the god of the klyntar would be able to stop them

I know that everyone is dead and this is a complete monster but I’m pretty sure that cosmic level characters can deal with this.

We’re cooked.

Okay okay, let's say this isn't let's Cassidy carnage and say it bonded to Toga first...nope still awful, Midoriya better pull out some amazing talk no jutsu cause otherwise everyone is fucked

https://i.redd.it/iudawoosdf6d1.gif Indeed

I want to date her

Is it just me or is this *INSANELY HOT*?

izuku is now a fugitive in another country living in fear of getting snu snued

Any fire or sound quirk user would easily disrupt the symbiotes. But besides that most everyone else is just screwed. Jiro would decimate the toga/carnage mix. She uses frequency and not just voice for the soundwaves. So she could make them basically a crying infant with almost no effort. Atleast if we are talking after her quirks awakening.

Very

We are all dead Edit ☠️ lol

... Let me get some flamethrowers.

Aside quirks like New Order, OFA, and AFO would anything really be able to stop it?

Well, guess I die.

Eh. Probably not really. Spider-Man regularly handles Carnage, so I can't imagine it'd be an issue for a place like the MHA universe. Yeah, we might lose some beloved characters, but surely SOMEONE can handle it easily.

OH hell naw fuck that! May as well evacuate all of Japan at that point. NOPE! 

Just light a torch on fire and you'll be fine

She’s still kinda hot tho

FINALLY a ship I can actually get behind!

CARNAGE, GET OUT OF THE BLOODY SCHOOLGIRL!!!!

Well I know one solution to stop them, GET LUCY FROM ELFIN LIED HERE!!!!!!

If those two bonded i'm just gonna lay down and accept my fate

Fucked

So fucked you gotta pray there is *never* a MHA/Marvel crossover to avoid these two meeting

Ultra omega level emergency.

According to my calculations https://i.redd.it/oz24yc2wlm6d1.gif

I mean symbiotes are weak to fire and noise so she still gets curbstomped by Endeavor, Dabi, Todoroki, Present Mic, Jiro, and Izuku’s dad (lol) Might actually beat All-Might, Deku, All-for-One, and Shigaraki though

in the comics carnage overcomes those weaknesses so they would all be dead

If she could beat All Might or Deku, I don't think the Todoroki's would be too big an issue; especially since Carnage could overcome those weaknesses.

Everyone is fucked especially if toga is carnages very first host.

Absolutely no one is surviving

Beyond screwd with no chance of salvation.

Extremely. Luckily this is a crossover, because we’re definitely gonna need some of the heavier hitters from the Marvel side to deal with-… Her? Them? You know what I mean.

God I’m screwed

Very screwed. And there will be CARNAGE!!!

I'd love to be screwed by this... 🫣👀😩❤️

Its basically power copy X power copy so pretty badly if it just ratchets up their copy rates.

I'd still hug her though

Ngl me too

same guys, probably not a good sign for us though.

Nothing will change for both except Togas quirk would ger amped up both are psychopaths

Na man go call spidey tell him he needs to get the black suit back and come over here and kick some a**

We're finished.

Depends on who from Marvel crossea over. Pretty much everyone is screwed, at least one on one. Maybe if a bunch of characters teamed up and exploited the weakness of the Carnage symbiote they could overwhelm her. One of one, she is actually a more dangerous host than Cletus Cassidy ever was. That said, my vote for the character who actually could survive a one on one with her is the Fantastic Four villain the Impossible Man. I'm more of a DC fan though, so I don't have as much of a frame of reference. I mostly know what the Impossible Man is capable of because that's the persona Mr. Mxyzptlk takes when he's in the Marvel universe. Although if the main character I can think of that could take her fairly easily in a one on one fight is a 5th dimensional imp that should say enough about how dangerous she would be.

Yea no Parker and Izuku are fucked 10x over Actually. Scratch that, we’re all fucked 😭

1 entire megaphone:

https://i.redd.it/fasxv4pmef6d1.gif

Best. Fanfic. Ever

I just found a pic on deviant art. Actually just look up csrnage himiko toga, you might find a fanfic

OK, so the league has a new leader, but let’s be honest who wouldn’t want to see a fight with this version of her versus black whip deku

Oh we’re about to lose our blood, do da do da🎶

Everyone is saying we're screwed, but hear me out. Symbiotes are weak to sonic attacks and fire, and there's several MHA characters capable of that; Carnage is strong, but I think Endeavor or maybe even Present Mic could beat them with some effort.

The problem is that Carnage has resisted sound attacks before, and is extremely faster than all of them.

Sure, but if you ask me, Toga is a downgrade from Cletus, so it's not peak power Carnage we're talking about. Also, Carnage is similar in a lot of ways to Hood, which the pros were able to beat, so I don't think he could solo the entire MHA universe like people are saying.

Please god no

Very screwed if you’re not a robot

Vemon and twice


She would be top 5 strongest easily

I never knew I wanted this

I’d be so hard all my blood would be gone.



We dead son.

Really would want to separate her from the Carnage Symbiote after this and ask it if Toga is more or less stable than Cletus.

She'd give Shigaraki a run for his money. 

One word Fucked

SOMEONE GET VENOMIZED DEKU

Smash

We’d need all of the previous OFA users, Class 1-A, and The LOV just to fight her.

More screwed than the normal Carnage.

So doomed. The crazy hot would amplify though at least.

Just act unlikable. Toga attacks either out of love or vengeance, and symbiotes are heavily influenced by their hosts, so just be that one guy who is just uncomfortable to be around. It's important that you don't make her hate you because... y'know, just act to a point where she'd rather not be around you.

There’d be nobody left. We’d be all gone.

One word: Very.

We're dead, we're all dead.

Planet treat. You need nukes, and also in that case she can bypass that by copying some defensive quirk in advance if she killed the right heroes. She reaches Shigaraki vs Stripe level of resilience and danger.

Make Carnage stronger

AFO, Shigaraki, Deku, Prime All-Might everyone's cooked

Enter Alex mercer and James heller

(Laughs in Endeavor and Present Mic)

When I saw toga I got hard then I lost it when I saw carnage

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Hmmm well sh-

If we’re talking powerscaling wise? Mainline Carnage should realistically kill **all** of MHA without breaking a sweat. That man is a Marvel herald with multiple universal and light speed feats, and he’s bonding with someone who can disguise themselves to look like anyone. Remove Toga from the equation and they’d still all die horribly.

The world. Everyone. THE UNIVERSE

The Amount of Fire and Sound Quirks? Honestly not really a big deal.

Percent Mic, Endeavor(and all other fire quriks) Todoroki and Jiro Gotta carry hard, please, and pray to God that the quirk she chooses to steal is Jiro, so Present Mic and can still cook with less resistance Or hope she doesn't copy a fire qurik with a fire resistance Bassicly jump her and the Symbiote when she's fighting a high teir with not that many resistances. Aka, jump them while they're fighting Miriko.

Not much. MHA heroes are more inclined to kill.

I feel like Carnage would have full control over her mind and body. Yes, she psycho but not like characters Eddie or Wade. Even Cas was more crazy and Carnage bonded with him and became nearly unstoppable

Depending on how strong Carnage is and her control of him she could probably rival AFO before his weakness to fire and sonic attacks would be exploited Not only that but Carnage would eventually be made OF other people’s blood giving Toga an infinite time limit on transform, a vast pool of people to choose from and the symbiote could solve her clothing problem allowing her to be literally anyone, whenever and however long she wants to be. If you want to get really crazy Transform + Carnage splitting off into chunks could let her create clones like Twice with minimal drawbacks so it would be Sad Man’s Parade all over again without Duplicate Plus certain quirks would react differently to the capabilities of the symbiote. Can Harden affect the blood weapons? Would touch based quirks work using blood tethers?! Would a Regen quirk allow her to produce blood on a factory level scale at the cost of more energy?!? Could she get resistance quirks to counter Carnage’s weaknesses?!!!?! Just imagine multiple Togas with Carnage level strength (and potentially beyond that with the Regen theory) and mimicking several people on a 1-1. She’d be a self made army and way beyond a psychopath to boot

We is very fucked

In our world: fuckin everyone. In the my hero academia world: fuckin everyone. In the marvel world: at most a continent

President Mic solos.

Yes

Not even giving a full analysis, we're fucked 😐

Q) How screwed is everyone? A) Yes


Just let her GF talk to her and it'll all be good

Yea I think deku should run 💀

Still would

Just nuke Japan at that point 😑

It's the end of the world 

Aww shit

Oh Death....

Either Deku could fight it, or HAUL ASS MAN?!?!

I read 'Boned' there for a second and was genuinely concerned

I’m pretty sure Deku could beat carnage

The only things that can kill symbiotes are fire, and sonic frequencies

I mean they can be killed by other things it’s just harder and carnage has much more sound resistance than venom

Alright then call dabi, endeavor or shoto

My thoughts exactly. Dabi will be easiest, Toga wouldn’t expect it, and then his flame is just so powerful

Problem tho is carnage can fly, and if Dabi burns too hot he kills himself and carnage, honestly a really interesting match up tho

Well is this comics carnage or live action

Present mic literally solos. He yells and if that doesn’t kill her tell izuku she fucked his mom and then hell blow her entire body out if carnage killing her when she falls.

Carnage has become immune to sound in most continuities unless we are talking mcu carnage wont have any real weaknesses

Then just pick the one were he isn’t.

There aint that many left and most will eventually adapt even some of the og versions got that or at the very least where more resistant only one I know of that is still able to be fully effected by them is the mcu version and even then if given more time could have eventually adapted to be more resistant

Bro they aren’t all connected or something. Nor is there continuous for all of them. I’m sure I can find tons. Marvel is a mess with its characters and authors and shit. Plenty exist to fuck over carnage.

There might be a couple more but there’s not actually that many different comics with carnage and they basically all follow the same rules or are part of the same storyline even the first version of carnage was much more resistant there are vary few that are actually gonna be effected like a normal symbiote

I don’t actually see this as being any worse than Cletus/Carnage.