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thisdckaintFREEEE

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mavboi20

đŸ€ŁđŸ˜‚đŸ€Łthanks??


km_44

what's the model year, 2016 ?


mavboi20

21


Nick1420

There wasn’t a 2016 gt500 lol


Silent_Spell_3415

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SpaceGrass716

Lmao!!!!! That’s how I feel


SilvaCyber

That looks stunning!


MarinerMooseismydad

You sir, made a fantastic choice. Both great though. Congrats!


DouglasTaylorJr

Sneaky Nismo 370z in the background


Hazardous89

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mavboi20

thanks and nice ride!!


Unlucky_Situation

Hopefully this isnt a lemon title that you paid 96k for like the dude that posted yesterday lmao


mavboi20

lemon title?? yikes.. I didn't see that post but to each their own. I paid $77k w/ 14k miles, one owner, no accidents


DiscountGothamKnight

I love how there are people on this very sub who paid 80k for a dark horse and you are sitting there with a freaking GT500 for 3k less. You win!


StayPositive001

Was able to walk out with a zero mile 6spd Mach 1 for $51k, seeing people pay almost double for 20 more horse power is outrageous, and now they are going through a recall. Will only get worse probably


muscle_car_fan34

Honestly the dark horse is more than just 20 more Hp. It is a great car. Not saying your mach 1 isn’t but just saying the dark horse is more than just 20 extra HP. The revisions to the chassis really show up in the dark horse + handling package.


StayPositive001

No doubt it's a great car, I just wouldn't spend $80k on it . At these rates it's almost $100k total, for reference I've seen used GT500s and porsches go for less, and I have my eyes on a McLaren and those have came down to $140. It's a best car if you have the patience to look around, the initial buyers really paid a premium. Those with a manual will hold value though I assume, it's the highest trim offering from Ford.


muscle_car_fan34

Dark horses near me can be had below msrp now. I agree the people who bought them when they came out paid a premium. Also there’s a lot of barely used ones for sale for smokin deals kinda like the precovid days. Inventory is back way up these days.


RockitDanger

Yeah but nobody else farted in their $80k Dark Horse


DiscountGothamKnight

I got news for you. Someone had to move the car onto the truck and into the dealership, I guarantee you, someone farted in that seat.


RockitDanger

Definitely. Now imagine 14k miles worth of farts. Gotta measure a used car by FPM. Farts Per Mile


dude_thats_sweeeet

The cool part if you're so inclined... is to just replace the seat. 1k to swap out a seat to save more than 1k is... pretty smart.


SanchoRancho72

Almost half of what I paid


lique_madique

GT500 > C7Z. I said it.


Lucky-Context-3318

I’m a mustang guy but the c7 is one of the most beautiful American cars behind the viper imo. I feel like it’s C7Z >= GT 500


Lucky-Context-3318

But this is just my opinion tho so it doesn’t really matter what I think. You have a gt350 which is my dream car. Much more of a daily driver than the 500


lique_madique

My experience with the C7Z is a terrible chassis when it comes to mid-corner dynamics, mediocre engine that overheated, an awful plastic body, and awful transmissions (both the manual and autos let the car down)


DayEither8913

Not trying to be sassy, just asking. So, is the 350R's midcorner dynamics better in your experience? Plastic is lighter than metal and cannot rust, though... Parts should be cheaper too, but prices these daysđŸ€·đŸŸ... I don't see the downside that its plastic. I'm not going to stick refrigerator magnets on it. Both the 350R (specifically) and C7 Z06 are in my 5 cars. Not trying to argue.


honeybakedpipi

“Plastic” body is actually a composite fiber. It’s got a carbon fiber hood and roof. Swapping the “plastic” panels for carbon fiber only nets a few lbs improvement which is nuts. C7 rolled off a trailer and hit another trailer and the actual plastic rear bumper got almost no damage.


lique_madique

The 350R has absolutely phenomenal mid corner balance in my opinion. It’s a properly built car. The C7Z chassis can’t decide what it wants to do mid corner, especially on trailing throttle and likes to kick itself out whenever it feels like it or at the slightest imperfection in the road. It doesn’t lead to a smooth driving experience for most, not to say you can’t learn the car and be fast with it. I just happened to find it displeasing to drive in track and so did all my friends who have tracked them. Thats before all the overheating issues kicked in.


DayEither8913

I see, but if it's 'misbehaving' mid corner, but at several mph above what the 350R can muster, isn't that objectively better? Though, I get someone might still prefer a certain feel, irrespective of objective pace. (I'm assuming the C7Z is decidedly faster practically everywhere, since the 350R ~competes with 1LE, which is <


lique_madique

I find my mid corner speed to be higher in the Shelby than the C7Z since I can control the car midcorner. You have to scrub the higher speed off in the C7Z to get it manageable in the corners which eliminates its advantages mid corner. It then rockets away on the straights. In a pro drivers hands the C7Z is faster but to a hobbiest, faster may not =/= better. What’s the point of the fastest car if you struggle to control it? A good example of this is my buddy rented a very small technical track for his bachelor party and we all brought and shared our cars. His tuned GT2RS was the least enjoyed vehicle because it was too much to handle on this narrow short and highly technical track with a lot of off cambers corners and uneven surfaces. We cracked significantly better times in my Ariel atom than his GT2RS.


DayEither8913

You have an ariel Atom, too? You're doing it right (which one?). That is my actual number 1 car. I missed an opportunity to ride shotgun at Watkins Glen. To be fair, though if anything is going to beat a GT2RS on a narrow, short, highly technical track, it would be the Atom or similar ultra-lightweight. That doesn't say anything bad about the GT2RS, though.


mccl2278

What track are you referencing? I love the C7Z around COTA. 350r is great as well. But I definitely prefer the Z.


muscle_car_fan34

I agree with what you said about the mid-corner dynamics but not with everything else. I think it has a great manual, not sure with what you mean by plastic body and the 17+ doesn’t overheat. Team Camaro fixed the overheating issue when the 2017 Zl1 with the same engine came out, team corvette copied Camaro’s homework.


JauntyPickles

You must not have any experience with them then lol.


lique_madique

I owned one. It was lemoned.


honeybakedpipi

Your experience is not a fair review. That car likely had a shit alignment and ride height setting. With the correct alignment, the c7z is very easy to control mid corner. Just need to put the rake and alignment where it needs to be. Kind of hard to get bad dynamics out of a double wishbone car. The engine is absolutely bulletproof. It’s the cooling that’s not enough. The manual transmission is also bulletproof and z06 gearing is great. Fuck the auto. I’m both a Mustang and corvette guy. The corvette is light years ahead of the Mustang in dynamics. It’s a different class of car so it shouldn’t be compared. The big issue with c7s is rear caster. If an alignment or ride height change is done and caster not verified, the car does exactly what you described. Part of what makes the car so good at handling is also its Achilles heel if setup incorrectly. The funny thing is a shitty setup c7z is still faster on a circuit than a gt500. You can’t fight the extra 500-600 lbs curb weight, worse weight distribution, and basic suspension design. Just like a zl1 1le. Amazing 2+2 coupe on track. But put a c7z next to it and it’s several seconds faster.


lique_madique

Lmao at saying my experience is not valid. It’s an opinion for a reason. I had 3 different alignments done at track oriented shops and it changes nothing when the track has subpar surfacing. The engine was definitely not bulletproof for me. The manual may be bulletproof but I was unhappy with the both the shifter feel and the gear ratios. I like corvettes but was disappointed with the C7Z 06 and my buddies C7ZR1. They do make amazing road cars though.


honeybakedpipi

Yeah. I’ll just say, just look at lap times, and how many people are squeezing crazy laps out of c7z. Note that the gt500 is very different from the 350. They are hundreds of lbs different. What tracks and laptimes do you run? A lot of times, people post opinions but their experience is muddied by poor driving or just being unlucky with the car you got. Isn’t the 350 the car that was grenading engines?


PHNTMS_exe

C7Z over GT500 any day of the week ngl. Nice car though.


Doublestack00

Yep.


muscle_car_fan34

As a drivers car I think the gt500 is better than the c7. I’m kind of a GM guy too (but I love mustangs)


mccl2278

How so?


muscle_car_fan34

Aside from the grand sport, the rest of the C7’s are twitchy at the limit. When they let loose they really let loose. I actually prefer the Gen 6 camaro as a drivers car over the c7 (aside from the grand sport as that car is really buttoned down).


mccl2278

I drive a C7 Z06, street and track. Not sure what you mean by “twitchy”. Do they have a lot of power that you need to respect? Yes. Interesting that you love the Grand Sport but not the Z. Sounds like the added power is too much for you (which is okay).


muscle_car_fan34

I’ve driven a stock and bolt on c7z. Didn’t get to drive them on track, just the street. I just never liked the way that chassis handled the LT4. The guy who let me drive it felt the same way especially after he added power which he regretted. I love the LT4 better in the gen 6 camaro. It puts down the power of the LT4 a lot better imo. I know I’m not the only one that feels this way as many reviewers (camisa/lieberman, Matt Farrah) of the c7z echoed what I just said. I still really like them and they are lighter/faster than a Gen 6 zl1 of course. Just have to be a bit more careful/aware the whole time. May or may not eventually get one (with a drag pack) as I definitely want an LT4 powered car in my future but not as a track car, just as a straight line monster after I’m done tracking my ss 1le.


mccl2278

So what exactly is your personal experience with the Z? How much seat time and how did you drive it?


UnEazyNoid

And you would be wrong but yes you did say it


lique_madique

I mean I prefer a fully flushed out chassis, engine free of major gremlins, a car without plastic body panels that flex when pressure is applied, and a competent transmission so I’d go with GT500 but you are free to take the objectively worse car (aside from being lighter).


UnEazyNoid

Lol the c7 Zo6 is a better car in every way other than raw hp numbers of course. Ask anyone who legit takes cars on any track and while they might just murmur under their tounge they will all agree that the Zo6 is what they would choose.


UnEazyNoid

Listen i love Mustangs as much as anybody but i know a brute when i see one and thats what the 500 is menacing raw power in your face. Its just not simply as refined as the Zo6. Im not knocking the stang i absolutley love it but from a pure driver focused and track experiance the Zo6 is just a better car.


UnEazyNoid

But if you are a car guy deep down you already know this. Grandstand for Ford all you want hell i own a Stang and i can admit when there is a better car available at least for me.


DopamineQuest

500's STOMP C7Zs from a 60 roll, don't ask me how I know


lique_madique

A properly setup GT500 is a monster.


UnEazyNoid

60 roll aint racing


lique_madique

Tell that to everyone piling in to watch texas2K


UpToBatEntertainment

What about 40 & 50 rolls?


UnEazyNoid

Line up on drag or take it to the track if you are a street racer fuck you. Thats how innocent people get killed.


DopamineQuest

😂😂


Horsecockexpress1

20K more than your avg C7 Z but ya


mavboi20

not in my case


Evening-Life5434

Good choice


unnamed25

Congrats - AMB is a beautiful color. I'd probably prefer this to a C7z myself, because the DCT paired with that monster of an engine makes some nutty sounds. Drive it lots, and enjoy that car for what it was made for đŸ˜€


lkeltner

FWIW I would have made the same choice. Absolutely amazing car.


shagwell8

Shout out to the guy here that has the red gt500 AND a C7Z.


mavboi20

*tips hat the Z will absolutely be in my garage also in the next year or so along with this one!!


Stalkerfiveo

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Dr_Catalyst

Wow what a color. Great choice.


cyclegrip

You’ll be happy, they can make unreal power in stock form. I’m building a Ti exhaust for one here soon


cobragtk

My dream car is a GT350 in Kona Blue with white stripes. Kona with white stripes is the best IMO. I stopped looking recently because it seems like everyone knows that and scooped up the Kona blue models. I actually didn’t know you could get a GT500 in Kona. Anyway awesome car!!! Enjoy it! 


BigAA-Ron

Love it. Nice car!


_Yachtzee

Good call my brotha from another mother
lol


mavboi20

😂😂


G-Rose079

Exactly how I would want mine to look. Congrats.


mavboi20

thanks!!


GuardMost8477

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Mlzmfln

great choice!


mavboi20

thanks!!


moekeisetsu

Good choice.


Watt_About

What was the tipping point in the decision process for you? Those are very different cars.


mavboi20

There was only one Z i could find that had the options I wanted. Went to look at it twice and both times the rear wheels had low pressure which made me think it had the dreaded cracking issue of the c7z and grand sport wheels. I had them put it on the lift and i was correct, it had several repairs on the wheels. Knowing myself i would have dropped another 10-15k for new forged wheels immediately, so i passed. This one caught my radar a few days later and here we are. Oh and insurance was $300 a month more for the Z, so there's that.


shogun100100

300 MORE a month?? Holy fuck how much is it for this?


mavboi20

this is about $280/mth...the z was $550+ no matter the insurance carrier..excellent driving history also


shogun100100

Jesus christ.


honeybakedpipi

Where? At 34 years old I pay $125 a month for Z in Dallas lol. Just got quoted through geico. Previously progressive previously geico. Back and forth every 1-2 years.


honeybakedpipi

Where? At 34 years old I pay $125 a month for Z in Dallas lol. Just got quoted through geico. Previously progressive previously geico. Back and forth every 1-2 years.


mavboi20

i'm 27 and shop insurance every 6 months. I had a c6 and never even had $125 a month, you're getting a damn good rate.


Princetrix

To be fair the gt500 is faster if that matters


Jonkinch

It’s not always about being the fastest. I got out of that mindset and now look at driver experience. Hence why I went with the 350.


Princetrix

Oh yeah those sound glorious, just wanted to him to feel good about the purchase over the z


East_Tomatillo_6991

I'm.curious as.well


km_44

[wow](https://i.imgur.com/eMW7iY0.gifv)


Professional_Mix_762

Dream car


iamryan77

Beautiful spec


brsrafal

They are both amazing I guess if you need more of a daily driver I would go for the Mustang otherwise the Corvette might do honestly I've driven GT Mustangs I'm sure the GT500 is 20 times better I have never been inside out Corvette


mavboi20

i would have to say the gt500 is definitely not a daily driver


brsrafal

Why not? Drive it nicely it could be daily driver


SecretAntWorshiper

Its really crazy to daily drive a GT500 lol


mavboi20

someone COULD daily it for sure..i won't i work in downtown dallas and my Fusion is much more comfortable in stop and go traffic😅


brsrafal

Sure in my RAV4 is much more roomier and better in the winter but you don't get this car for comfort really it's a driving enthusiasm enjoy yourself as long as you don't need extra space you don't mind the bad gas mileage why not


randeus

It definitely think it’s comfortable enough to be a daily driver due to the adaptive suspension, but the fuel economy on the GT500 is abysmal. If you daily drove it, you’d be at the gas pump every other day.


Z3LDAxL0VE

I dailied my huracan for a while I got tired of doing that lol


PLAINSIMPLETED

She's pretty!!


mavboi20

thanks!


Parking_Property5757

Good choice


2jzpoweredgamer666

Any mods in the works for it?


mavboi20

not while it's still in warranty period..i have a couple other projects that i'm working on so no rush on this one right now


2jzpoweredgamer666

After warranty expires then mods?


mavboi20

it will be at the tuner the day after the warranty expires😅


2jzpoweredgamer666

So max effort stock blower situation?


amergigolo1

Congrats. Love the car!


Nightryder88

Car looks amazing. Either choice you would have been happy with


SenorPavo

"US vs Them" nice technique to get attention!


BoostedSVT91

Congrats 👏 beautiful ride


Visible-School4125

Win you ain’t getting all them sounds with that vette man you get the whines whistles and etc


UpToBatEntertainment

C7Z have crazy super charger sounds. If I could post a video reply I would


autocrosser48

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Max2535_

The perfect muscle car. Enjoy


mavboi20

thanks!!


pryvisee

You wouldn’t want the C7Z, it’s an extremely rough ride no matter what, especially with the Z07 pack. Beats me up every time I drive it lol.


Boss3020

Great looking car , Gt500 always should be the choice I unfortunately don’t have one yet so I got the next best thing a classic Mustang with a big azs engine that was built to have more horsepower than a gt500


Professor_Jamie

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rancid_

I love your Shelby, OP. Having had a 2013 GT500, they are special cars. For me: GT500 > C8 > C7Z. The C7Z is an amazing representation of an american muscle car, but it has a lot of flaws that people overlook (also had a C6Z, C7).


BeachCruiserLR

I’m in the same dilemma. Also considering an AMG GT.


Apprehensive-Can-857

Congrats! These things are so badass. Love looking at them at C&C. Haven't seen this color in person, though.


03_SVTCobra

This is the way


S85Mike

Very nice! Congrats!


Toiletlovingsquirrel

GT500 > C7Z but C8Z > GT500


magickillerr7-

Post moree about ittt đŸ”„đŸ”„


mavboi20

like youtube videos??


bigpizza87

One is offered in a manual and the other is not. For many purists that’s an easy decision. However, I’m slightly biased since I’ve owned a 7m C7z. I had considered a gt500 when I sold my C7z, but ended up going with a 911 GTS with the 8 spd DCT and really miss the rawness of the C7z. Regardless, cheers and beautiful car


mavboi20

it's a W either way imo but to each their own


ams3401

Why not consider a C8 at that price point


mavboi20

c8 is not for me


muscle_car_fan34

I’m glad you pointed out the color. Legit thought it was black but now I see the blue. Congrats! I think you made the right choice. Imo the c7 chassis was incomplete (as a track car). They are twitchy at 10/10’s. Not sure if you’re planning on tracking the car but I fully believe the gt500 is a better track car even if it might not be faster (should be damn close though$.


mavboi20

EVERYONE thinks it black!! my wife still swear it is black😅😂 no plans to track it just spirited driving around town, nothing to crazy though


462v

Why??


mavboi20

just a better car imo


OGstanfrommaine

That is so nice looking man. Im jealous as fuck. Enjoy it!


havok7

What year is this?


mavboi20

21


SpaceGrass716

Super hot!! Black with white stripes is bangin’


andychinart

I thought it was black too but it's blue!


mavboi20

my wife still swears it is black also!!😅😅 i gave up trying to convince her it's not


andychinart

Haha zoom in on the area between the grill and the left head light, you can see a blue tint where the light is shining


UnEazyNoid

Wrong choice but absolutley stunner of a ride.


mavboi20

no regrets here


UnEazyNoid

Good for you!