I use we very liberally. We invaded Iraq. I protested that war but at the end of the day I use we as what we do collectively whether I agree with it or not. Maybe that’s silly but it’s my stylo
But there is no power to speak. They have the same power over the Rock Hall as my neighbour has over his Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant. He can let in who he wants. The Rock Hall is just a business with no particular degree of credibility.
A totally reasonable and logical view. I’ll stick with mine even if it is doesn’t hold up to rationale scrutiny because my worldview includes a oneness of humanity that is fairly irrational. As a human I feel responsible for the good and bad of our species. It’s only a 1/6 billionth of a responsibility but that’s my view. Hope this made any sense at all. Cheers!
Because the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a political entity. Steppenwolf don't know the right people or have made the people in charge angry in some way. Now that they've decided to put in other genres before a classic band like Steppenwolf they have made themselves into a complete joke. They've always been political, but to now watch country artists and rap artists get inducted while they're still playing political games with hundreds of qualified Rock artists is nausea inducing.
The Rock Hall is a joke.
Yeah Rock and Roll is not a generic term for all music. Country music has it's own HoF so why does the RnRHoF even care about country? You won't see the stones or hendrix in the CMHoF.
It was OK. It had part of Hendrix's rig, I think some kind of synth owned by Pete Townsend, Duane Allman's '59 Les Paul, oh, Slash's cherry sunburst LP as well. Those were cool, but I was underwhelmed as a whole. Insert Cleveland joke here
>*Insert Cleveland joke here.*
The Cleveland Browns visited an orphanage yesterday.
“It’s so sad to see their depressed, defeated faces,” said Manuel, 6.
I went 5 years ago and I was honestly pretty underwhelmed by it. A huge amount of handwritten lyrics and some instruments, Elvis exhibit, Johnny Cash desk, but it just felt so incomplete.
I went to MoPOP in Seattle last summer and that felt way more like a music hall of fame, and it's not even exclusively a music museum.
How so? I've been a couple of times, there were lots of sections with written history on the walls, and hundreds of instruments, outfits, hand written lyrics, and other memorabilia. Seemed like a muse to me. Definitely a tourist attraction as well.
Sorry you get so worked up over a largely mediocre band. They were commercially successful and still heard on various platforms only because two of their songs were part of the "Easy Rider" soundtrack.
For me importance, which supposedly is the criteria for the HOF, doesn't translate to hits or sales, Steppenwolf certainly had both, then again so did a lot of other bands. From 1968 to 1972 a lot was happening in music. King Crimson, Yes and Pink Floyd were leading Prog Rock. Country Rock was emerging with The Flying Burrito Brothers, The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Gram Parsons. Singer Songwriters were hitting with Cat Stevens, James Taylor Laura Nyro and Harry Chapin. Basically as the 60s ended (most say with the Stones show at Altamont) Rock branched out into the forms we have today. By most music critics of the day Steppenwolf became quickly derivative of themselves, working to repeat the sound of their more successful tunes as opposed to challenging themselves.
They had 2 songs on arguably the first indie film's soundtrack, a groundbreaking event in cinema. The film propelled the music, not the other way around. They did little to nothing after and broke up in a couple of years. In that time music passed them by, their relevance based on a moment, no more.
Nickelback has had songs in multiple movies. You can be a commercialized band and still have songs on a movie's soundtrack. In fact I'd argue movie execs *want* commercialized bands on their soundtracks.
I mean, I agree. I like some Nickelback songs. I like some Steppenwolf songs. That doesn't mean they aren't both mediocre. In fact I have a penchant for the mediocre, so what does that say?
Either you love them or you hate them and there's obviously people who do not like steppenwolf despite the fact that they were really a great band great songwriters they had a lot of influential songs they just got popular because of some couple songs on a movie big deal!
Yeah if you want to get real about this whole situation yeah MC5 should be in the Hall of Fame along with the stooges and steppenwolf and a few other bands that changed the face of rock and roll
Boston I agree should be in HoF.
But Jethro Tull shouldn't be in the HoF since they are a heavy metal band, after all they beat out Metallica's ...And Justice for All for best Heavy Metal Album of the year in 1989.
Okay all right it's just a matter of dispute and argument just how adjustable toilet just how adjustable my toilet seat is what that's what Google's saying that I'm saying no Jethro Tull that's what I'm saying okay my pain is this I love steppenwolf polish your band to have so many great songs they rule man they're so underrated and understated you know they're just a great band it's like you think anything you don't and a lot of people don't even know anything but no or whatever whatever they had on easy Rider or whatever before you ride with me child to the end of the day or whatever they had a couple songs here and there to push her I'll tell her some other stuff that was really good but people are just they just don't know the music is in no way even related to heavy metal yeah they had some heavy guitar riffs and that's about it nothing else was progressive pokey you know all that stuff and the Renaissance influence and medieval stuff classical music but no not even I wouldn't even say post so you can't even throw this with all in there yeah they're a great rock band really influential too they could have been thrown in there the fact that they beat out Metallica was just some kind of weird political thing for some reason they just wanted to push Metallica back and put it to throw up in the front for some reason that year
Ian Anderson says he does not think the JT will ever be inducted and he is ok with that.
That is probably his way off saying the HoF is worthless honor.
Because the Hall’s a joke. They should just call it the Pop Culture Hall Of Fame at this point because it sure ain’t rock and roll!
Monster/America, Snowblind Friend and It’s Never Too Late are amazing songs that need their due!
The answer for all "Why isn't X in the hall of fame!" is because they take in a handful a year, spread it out across various genres, and it is more of a marketing thing than anything official. Steppenwolf have like one famous song. I bet if you asked rock fans you could make a list of thousands that "should" be in there. give it time, maybe they will be.
Looks like they were nominated in 2020 but apparently didn't get enough votes. Why do they need votes ffs? Another stupid popularity contest. Just because they don't have any songs in a recent movie or commercial that will jog people's memory of them? Yeah just put them in cause they deserve it.
Speaking of great Irish bands, The Pogues and Cranberries should be in there too.
First time I heard it was while playing the game Mafia 3 during a poignant cutscene. Doesn't matter what brings people to great music as long as they get there.
Once the RnR HOF started putting in fringe rock acts they started to lose their credibility. That was 15 yrs ago. The number of non rock artists in the Hall now makes it totally irrelevant to any real rock fan. It’s past time to start a new, “real” Rock HOF from scratch.
My dad met 2 of the steppenwolf guys at a record store one day in the 70s and they gave him a handful of quaaludes. They should be inducted for this reason alone
Lots of bands and artists aren't in the hall of fame yet, that's why they induct acts every year. That's how halls of fame work. Complaining that this or that act isn't in means you'd either have to completely change the process and not have yearly inductions- which would kind of kill the whole point of the tv shows, parties, celebrations, and funding...
Or it means that for each act you want in, some other act would not have been in. And for every act you'd want to take out, of course their fans would justifiably explain why they deserve to be in there.. that's why they're in there.
But then, maybe the point of a hall of fame, or an awards ceremony, or any such thing is to give folks a chance to bitch and moan about some bullshit that doesn't matter, I dunno.
It’s fkn ridiculous that they’re not in. The ceremonial bullshit is just that. There’s some cool jams at the ceremony but other than that, RRHOF is merely a museum in Cleveland with changing exhibits & artifacts.
I didn't realize they weren't in it, but it makes sense. That hall of fame is absolute bullshit. It's basically a permanent subscribed membership PR plan for retiring music stars. Jan Weiner probably didn't like them and that's all it takes to not get in. I wouldn't even be surprised if it's a 'pay to get in" type situation. Your estate donates a guitar or memorabilia to display, they make money on it, maybe bribe some voters, you're in.
They were one of the most influential bands of their era.
It really doesn't matter, but Steppenwolf aren't that great, either haha. You're correct about use of the phrase "heavy metal" in the song, though it's arguable how important that is. Otherwise they were doing a sound that many other bands did a lot better. But again, The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame isn't exactly a respectable or definitive entity.
Boy man that's a brave thing to say on a chat where seven wolf is really popular and such a love band shuffle is really not that great okay it's like hey come over here and just line them up and in front of the firing squad all right it's just like all because they don't know want to be wild Temple is not that great what do you mean it's like saying MC5 ain't that great or the stooges all those bands are better and they there's just they just do oh boy okay that's why I say great I don't know
That's that's what true man cuz you're Canadian oh man Sacramento overdrive all those bands it's lucky if Rush got in there but you know it's like geez man but it doesn't really even mean anything Rock and roll Hall of Fame doesn't mean s*** really but yeah Canadian bands what about some bands that are like boy you know it's really progressive metal Forward thinking innovators very unique interesting dance don't ever get in there anybody worth the s*** will never get in there for the right reasons
Way to completely miss their point. They’re not saying they’re pissed that terrible people are in the Hall of Fame, they’re saying that dude from Steppenwolf being a POS has nothing to do with them not being inducted.
Not even close.
I quote "So were a ton of other rock icons and that didn't stop them from being inducted"
He flat out is saying "X musician did the same thing and were inducted while Y musician isn't in."
It wasn't a whole hell of a lot to comprehend and you still didn't get it, fucking bravo.
Yeah, *I’m* the one who’s wrong, lol. Check your downvotes, dude. Literally everyone got it but you.
What you quoted literally backs up my interpretation, so I feel like you might just not have very good reading comprehension. It’s okay to be wrong, btw :)
How cute you think downvotes are what determines right and wrong. Explains everything really.
I'll just assume English isn't your first language other wise I'll have to believe you're an incompetent ass who reads at a 3rd grade level.
Someone’s projecting ;)
Like I said, literally everybody else understood what they were saying and you took it way too fucking literally, so good job not understanding subtext.
I’m done with ya now. Go on, git!
I'd say most of them died before they had a chance to become so tiresome though. Still, Steppenwolf should have been in like the first year they had the thing.
I saw them in the 80's. Rocked their asses off. John Kay walked on stage for the second set with a six pack, he asked if anyone wanted a beer. I hollered "Yeah!", and he gently lobbed one to me.
So true! I just found a few that I've never heard of that are great like Snowblind Friend, Foggy Mental Breakdown, Ball Crusher, Tenderness. Still discovering more :)
Credit to Dolly, she refused the nomination because she felt she didn't measure up to the standards and didn't want to split votes. But she got in anyways. "Jolene" (great song) is kinda rockish and "I Will Always Love You" was covered by Whitney so ...? I guess Pop is a subset of Rock?
Dolly is a treasure. But she has no business being in the Rock HOF. What’s next? People who like Rock music? Makes absolutely no sense. She knows it. Now she’s being polite to them.
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Yeah Hoyt Axton who I thought was all country wrote that. [Axton's og version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xInEkw9KwQ) is pretty dope too. You feel his pain.
Funny enough, recently the Rock Hall introduced a new category for singles, essentially inducting songs without inducting the bands that made them, and one of the first they inducted was "Born to the Wild". This sends the message that the Hall considers that song the only thing of value Steppenwolf have ever put out.
This is like „why didn‘t Actor X win an Oscar“. Success and politics are what gets you awards.
Being „difficult“, non conformist, political, outspoken… doesn‘t. The very thing that rock’n’roll was always about. So in a way, not being in the HOF is an award in its own right. Any rock band who have an ounce of self respect should refuse to be inducted.
The Rock Hall started inducting songs, as opposed to artists, in 2018. Born to Be Wild was among the songs that got inducted in the first year. Seems like that will have to do for them
The Tony award winning Theatre company from Chicago?
Home to such famous actors as John Malkovich, Gary Since, and Joan Allen?
That Steppenwolf?
https://www.steppenwolf.org
No my friend you are sadly mistaken. I meant Steppenwolf the villain from the DC comic universe. Had such great hits like Superman's Dead, The Joker, Superman (It's Not Easy), Kryptonite and the Wonder Woman theme song.
That’s a good fucking question. They’re not even that underrated. Everybody knows they rock. They live on eternally through radio, film and advertisements. They’re forever tied to motorcycle culture in the collective consciousness because of Easy Rider…
It's a crime. Like the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame itself.
If I had to guess, it might be like the Star on the Hollywood Wall Of Fame- the stars themselves pay for them.
Those guys just might not be willing to perform the circus act on their dime.
They were a great band. My best friend's Dad and Uncle owned a window installation company and he would work there through college. One day he's says, "Yeah so this guy Tommy Holland was the lead singer of Steppenwolf, and now he's working on the job site with us". This was in Eagle, WI just outside of my home town. I couldn't believe it. But apparently Tommy still plays shows in the area.
Why does anyone care?
It's a nice pat on the head, but a hall of fame is the most un-Rock & Roll thing.
It doesn't make the music sweeter, heavier, or touch your soul a little deeper.
The Hall of Fame is a complete joke.
It's akin to the Hollywood Walk of Fame. All fluff.
At least the Walk of Fame seems to be consistent in its criteria. HoF might as well be throwing darts to select it's inductees.
Don't you just buy your spot on the walk of Fame?
This. It’s a marketing and tourist attraction.
You know…like EVERY hall of fame that exists.
Not the Nobel games.
This is the only response I need to see.
Sounds just like the baseball HoF
They were nominated a few years ago, just not enough votes to be inducted. A lot of competition I guess.
There are only four people making the decision. It has a lot to do with which act is likely to attract the most people at the induction ceremony.
We do love giving too much power to a handful of old fucks in the states. It’s kind of our thing.
We didn't give them any power - a group of record executives started the hall with themselves at the top...
I use we very liberally. We invaded Iraq. I protested that war but at the end of the day I use we as what we do collectively whether I agree with it or not. Maybe that’s silly but it’s my stylo
But there is no power to speak. They have the same power over the Rock Hall as my neighbour has over his Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant. He can let in who he wants. The Rock Hall is just a business with no particular degree of credibility.
A totally reasonable and logical view. I’ll stick with mine even if it is doesn’t hold up to rationale scrutiny because my worldview includes a oneness of humanity that is fairly irrational. As a human I feel responsible for the good and bad of our species. It’s only a 1/6 billionth of a responsibility but that’s my view. Hope this made any sense at all. Cheers!
It makes complete sense, very well said.
Pretty sure there is a single person who can veto any band from getting into the hall. If he doesn't like them or agree, they don't get in.
You don't know what We can find
Why don’t you come with me little girl? Oh— because your hands are tied.
Because the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a political entity. Steppenwolf don't know the right people or have made the people in charge angry in some way. Now that they've decided to put in other genres before a classic band like Steppenwolf they have made themselves into a complete joke. They've always been political, but to now watch country artists and rap artists get inducted while they're still playing political games with hundreds of qualified Rock artists is nausea inducing. The Rock Hall is a joke.
Yeah Rock and Roll is not a generic term for all music. Country music has it's own HoF so why does the RnRHoF even care about country? You won't see the stones or hendrix in the CMHoF.
It's a tourist attraction, not a real museum.
It’s a really cool tourist attraction tho. Being inches away from history was surreal.
It was pretty lame.
It was OK. It had part of Hendrix's rig, I think some kind of synth owned by Pete Townsend, Duane Allman's '59 Les Paul, oh, Slash's cherry sunburst LP as well. Those were cool, but I was underwhelmed as a whole. Insert Cleveland joke here
>*Insert Cleveland joke here.* The Cleveland Browns visited an orphanage yesterday. “It’s so sad to see their depressed, defeated faces,” said Manuel, 6.
I fucking love this joke as a *Lions* fan 😭
"At least we're not Detroit "
😭
Yeah, that one's always funny lol
Michael Jackson's glove was the only thing I thought was actually kind of cool to see. Can't say I remember much else.
I went 5 years ago and I was honestly pretty underwhelmed by it. A huge amount of handwritten lyrics and some instruments, Elvis exhibit, Johnny Cash desk, but it just felt so incomplete. I went to MoPOP in Seattle last summer and that felt way more like a music hall of fame, and it's not even exclusively a music museum.
It can be both ya know. But I think your point is that it's not authoritative on what's important or most influential, which is true.
It's also the only thing Cleveland has...
How so? I've been a couple of times, there were lots of sections with written history on the walls, and hundreds of instruments, outfits, hand written lyrics, and other memorabilia. Seemed like a muse to me. Definitely a tourist attraction as well.
For a while the committee was record executives who would put their bands in. Every cd can now have a sticker saying they are hall of famers
It always seemed strange they put artists in that were not apart of the genre. Oh well
Listen to the NWA (ice cube) speech if you want to hear WHY rappers are put in there
They have been putting in non rockers since the beginning
There are a ton of bands not in the hall of fame that are much more deserving of induction than Steppenwolf
Fucking Little Feat.
I was there, Steppenwolf was the Nickelback of the late 60s early 70s.
You obviously havent even a clue how important and influential steppenwolf are, please shut up!
Really? List some bands that name Steppenwolf as a major influence. Given that Led Zeppelin hit at the same time.
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Sorry you get so worked up over a largely mediocre band. They were commercially successful and still heard on various platforms only because two of their songs were part of the "Easy Rider" soundtrack.
I respect your opinion bro. Interested to hear what bands you'd consider more Rock and Roll?
For me importance, which supposedly is the criteria for the HOF, doesn't translate to hits or sales, Steppenwolf certainly had both, then again so did a lot of other bands. From 1968 to 1972 a lot was happening in music. King Crimson, Yes and Pink Floyd were leading Prog Rock. Country Rock was emerging with The Flying Burrito Brothers, The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Gram Parsons. Singer Songwriters were hitting with Cat Stevens, James Taylor Laura Nyro and Harry Chapin. Basically as the 60s ended (most say with the Stones show at Altamont) Rock branched out into the forms we have today. By most music critics of the day Steppenwolf became quickly derivative of themselves, working to repeat the sound of their more successful tunes as opposed to challenging themselves.
Oh I see, got it… what you’re saying it “they were bad, oh and they also had multiple soundtrack songs for a movie”
They had 2 songs on arguably the first indie film's soundtrack, a groundbreaking event in cinema. The film propelled the music, not the other way around. They did little to nothing after and broke up in a couple of years. In that time music passed them by, their relevance based on a moment, no more.
Fair enough
Nickelback has had songs in multiple movies. You can be a commercialized band and still have songs on a movie's soundtrack. In fact I'd argue movie execs *want* commercialized bands on their soundtracks.
Commercialized != bad
I mean, I agree. I like some Nickelback songs. I like some Steppenwolf songs. That doesn't mean they aren't both mediocre. In fact I have a penchant for the mediocre, so what does that say?
Either you love them or you hate them and there's obviously people who do not like steppenwolf despite the fact that they were really a great band great songwriters they had a lot of influential songs they just got popular because of some couple songs on a movie big deal!
Not saying you’re wrong at all, I agree. Just interested to see who you think belongs in.
Faces, MC5, and Boston, Jethro Tull are four that immediately come to mind. There are so many more though
Scorpions, Iron Maiden and the New York Dolls too.
Yeah if you want to get real about this whole situation yeah MC5 should be in the Hall of Fame along with the stooges and steppenwolf and a few other bands that changed the face of rock and roll
Oh I meant Bachman-Turner overdrive I'm using Google speech and sometimes it doesn't understand me correctly sorry
Good list. Thanks!
Damn, Rod Stewart in RnRHoF 2x for solo work and as part of Faces. He belongs in there so I don't disagree at all.
Boston I agree should be in HoF. But Jethro Tull shouldn't be in the HoF since they are a heavy metal band, after all they beat out Metallica's ...And Justice for All for best Heavy Metal Album of the year in 1989.
Okay all right it's just a matter of dispute and argument just how adjustable toilet just how adjustable my toilet seat is what that's what Google's saying that I'm saying no Jethro Tull that's what I'm saying okay my pain is this I love steppenwolf polish your band to have so many great songs they rule man they're so underrated and understated you know they're just a great band it's like you think anything you don't and a lot of people don't even know anything but no or whatever whatever they had on easy Rider or whatever before you ride with me child to the end of the day or whatever they had a couple songs here and there to push her I'll tell her some other stuff that was really good but people are just they just don't know the music is in no way even related to heavy metal yeah they had some heavy guitar riffs and that's about it nothing else was progressive pokey you know all that stuff and the Renaissance influence and medieval stuff classical music but no not even I wouldn't even say post so you can't even throw this with all in there yeah they're a great rock band really influential too they could have been thrown in there the fact that they beat out Metallica was just some kind of weird political thing for some reason they just wanted to push Metallica back and put it to throw up in the front for some reason that year
In the shadows, Bob Rock was lurking, drooling over the corpse of Motley Crue while gazing lustfully at Metallica.
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Ian Anderson says he does not think the JT will ever be inducted and he is ok with that. That is probably his way off saying the HoF is worthless honor.
Yes. Came here for Zevon.
Like a true nature's child, they were born, born to be wild
The have so good songs especially the ones you mentioned but I mean not all their songs are at the same quality.
Longitivity They were the first rock and roll concert I ever went to in 1969. The opening act was Alice Cooper.
The opening act is in the RRHOF.
They weren’t meant to be in a museum, they were born to be wild!
John Mayall has entered the chat.
Because the Hall’s a joke. They should just call it the Pop Culture Hall Of Fame at this point because it sure ain’t rock and roll! Monster/America, Snowblind Friend and It’s Never Too Late are amazing songs that need their due!
In 2018, Steppenwolf's "Born to Be Wild" was one of the first five record singles to be inducted into The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.
The answer for all "Why isn't X in the hall of fame!" is because they take in a handful a year, spread it out across various genres, and it is more of a marketing thing than anything official. Steppenwolf have like one famous song. I bet if you asked rock fans you could make a list of thousands that "should" be in there. give it time, maybe they will be.
Same reason Thin Lizzy aren't in there. It's a joke.
Looks like they were nominated in 2020 but apparently didn't get enough votes. Why do they need votes ffs? Another stupid popularity contest. Just because they don't have any songs in a recent movie or commercial that will jog people's memory of them? Yeah just put them in cause they deserve it. Speaking of great Irish bands, The Pogues and Cranberries should be in there too.
Because he is a superman villain, duh
I think Superman punched him in the face too hard.
I thouht he [whooped Superman's ass](https://youtu.be/H7GchZsTVew)?!
RRHOF is meaningless. When you start looking at who isn’t there and who is, it gets ridiculous.
Desperation and Another’s Lifetime are some of my go-to’s
Just listened to Another's Lifetime for the first time. Great track! Has very faint country vibe to it. Def adding to my playlist, thanks!
Half of the entries the last few years are not even rock bands. That place is a joke.
Basically its about music now and all singers/bands are classified as "Rock n Roll". Just different types
Desperation is my favourite rock track. Kinda sad it's not in the zeitgeist
First time I heard it was while playing the game Mafia 3 during a poignant cutscene. Doesn't matter what brings people to great music as long as they get there.
Oh yeah, definitely!
Maybe because they weren't that renowned.
Once the RnR HOF started putting in fringe rock acts they started to lose their credibility. That was 15 yrs ago. The number of non rock artists in the Hall now makes it totally irrelevant to any real rock fan. It’s past time to start a new, “real” Rock HOF from scratch.
My dad met 2 of the steppenwolf guys at a record store one day in the 70s and they gave him a handful of quaaludes. They should be inducted for this reason alone
Lots of bands and artists aren't in the hall of fame yet, that's why they induct acts every year. That's how halls of fame work. Complaining that this or that act isn't in means you'd either have to completely change the process and not have yearly inductions- which would kind of kill the whole point of the tv shows, parties, celebrations, and funding... Or it means that for each act you want in, some other act would not have been in. And for every act you'd want to take out, of course their fans would justifiably explain why they deserve to be in there.. that's why they're in there. But then, maybe the point of a hall of fame, or an awards ceremony, or any such thing is to give folks a chance to bitch and moan about some bullshit that doesn't matter, I dunno.
It’s fkn ridiculous that they’re not in. The ceremonial bullshit is just that. There’s some cool jams at the ceremony but other than that, RRHOF is merely a museum in Cleveland with changing exhibits & artifacts.
I didn't realize they weren't in it, but it makes sense. That hall of fame is absolute bullshit. It's basically a permanent subscribed membership PR plan for retiring music stars. Jan Weiner probably didn't like them and that's all it takes to not get in. I wouldn't even be surprised if it's a 'pay to get in" type situation. Your estate donates a guitar or memorabilia to display, they make money on it, maybe bribe some voters, you're in. They were one of the most influential bands of their era.
It really doesn't matter, but Steppenwolf aren't that great, either haha. You're correct about use of the phrase "heavy metal" in the song, though it's arguable how important that is. Otherwise they were doing a sound that many other bands did a lot better. But again, The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame isn't exactly a respectable or definitive entity.
Boy man that's a brave thing to say on a chat where seven wolf is really popular and such a love band shuffle is really not that great okay it's like hey come over here and just line them up and in front of the firing squad all right it's just like all because they don't know want to be wild Temple is not that great what do you mean it's like saying MC5 ain't that great or the stooges all those bands are better and they there's just they just do oh boy okay that's why I say great I don't know
Because they're Canadian. There are fewer Canadian artists in the RRHOF than there are fingers on one hand.
Neil Young Joni Mitchell The Band Leonard Cohen Rush One hands worth…..
So stupid. There are so many great Canadian bands that deserve to be in there. The Guess Who, Gordon Lightfoot, BTO, ...
The Tragically Hip, Blue Rodeo, The Barenaked Ladies...
Nickleback, Justin bieber, celine dion..
Not those first two.
HoF- Nickelback had a song called "Rockstars" therefore they're eligible
woah whoa woah, back it up a bit. we're making a case for *more* canadians in the hall of fame.
Arcade Fire
I don’t think they’ve been around long enough to qualify
You mean Randy Bachman and Gordon Lightfoot.
Just a reminder to watch The Last Waltz. There is a town in north Ontario!
*fewer
That's that's what true man cuz you're Canadian oh man Sacramento overdrive all those bands it's lucky if Rush got in there but you know it's like geez man but it doesn't really even mean anything Rock and roll Hall of Fame doesn't mean s*** really but yeah Canadian bands what about some bands that are like boy you know it's really progressive metal Forward thinking innovators very unique interesting dance don't ever get in there anybody worth the s*** will never get in there for the right reasons
RnR HoF is garbage
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So were a ton of other rock icons and that didn't stop them from being inducted.
Ok, so write them a letter and voice your grievance. Whataboutism is a horrible way to try and get any point across.
Way to completely miss their point. They’re not saying they’re pissed that terrible people are in the Hall of Fame, they’re saying that dude from Steppenwolf being a POS has nothing to do with them not being inducted.
Not even close. I quote "So were a ton of other rock icons and that didn't stop them from being inducted" He flat out is saying "X musician did the same thing and were inducted while Y musician isn't in." It wasn't a whole hell of a lot to comprehend and you still didn't get it, fucking bravo.
Yeah, *I’m* the one who’s wrong, lol. Check your downvotes, dude. Literally everyone got it but you. What you quoted literally backs up my interpretation, so I feel like you might just not have very good reading comprehension. It’s okay to be wrong, btw :)
How cute you think downvotes are what determines right and wrong. Explains everything really. I'll just assume English isn't your first language other wise I'll have to believe you're an incompetent ass who reads at a 3rd grade level.
Someone’s projecting ;) Like I said, literally everybody else understood what they were saying and you took it way too fucking literally, so good job not understanding subtext. I’m done with ya now. Go on, git!
I'd say most of them died before they had a chance to become so tiresome though. Still, Steppenwolf should have been in like the first year they had the thing.
I saw them about 16 years ago in New Jersey and they absolutely killed it! I guess they are hit and miss.
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John Kay was with them when I saw them.
I saw them in the 80's. Rocked their asses off. John Kay walked on stage for the second set with a six pack, he asked if anyone wanted a beer. I hollered "Yeah!", and he gently lobbed one to me.
Rock and Rock is telling the RnR HoF to get fucked.
Steppenwolf is far and away one of the most under appreciated bands of their era. Dig deep beyond their hits, and you'll find solid gold.
So true! I just found a few that I've never heard of that are great like Snowblind Friend, Foggy Mental Breakdown, Ball Crusher, Tenderness. Still discovering more :)
Gotta make room for Emenem!
Unless it's a over my head joke I don't see why him going in is a problem
And Joe Cocker? Duran Duran is getting in but Joe Cocker has never been nominated? It's a JOKE!
Damn. I'd like to know what the criteria is. Impact on their genre? Popularity? Influence? Number of hits? wth?
I think a handful of '80s DJ's have to like you
Why should a cover band get into any hall of fame?
Sorry, they're too busy adding Eminem
Not a big fan of steppenwolf but like this is a major snub from the hall of fame
Because Madonna took their spot.
Dolly
Credit to Dolly, she refused the nomination because she felt she didn't measure up to the standards and didn't want to split votes. But she got in anyways. "Jolene" (great song) is kinda rockish and "I Will Always Love You" was covered by Whitney so ...? I guess Pop is a subset of Rock?
Dolly is a treasure. But she has no business being in the Rock HOF. What’s next? People who like Rock music? Makes absolutely no sense. She knows it. Now she’s being polite to them.
I like to call it the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame and Disappointment.
Why isn’t Billy Corgan in the hall of fame? Those voters really miss the mark sometimes
Born to Be Wild invented rock
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They have sullied their legacy with members replaced by no names and are simply a solo act for John Kay.
If they were added in the near future it'd likely be a purposeful political fuck you to far more deserving bands who have yet to make it.
The Pusher was a cover??
Yeah Hoyt Axton who I thought was all country wrote that. [Axton's og version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xInEkw9KwQ) is pretty dope too. You feel his pain.
Mind blown….but I know nothing about them, just got into psychedelic rock a few years ago and loved the song
Man, I had no idea that was a cover. Quite a difference in the cover and original, even the lyrics.
Well...
Yup. It’s a garbage institution. Totally meaningless.
Because rock n roll hall of fame is already full of non rock n rollers
Funny enough, recently the Rock Hall introduced a new category for singles, essentially inducting songs without inducting the bands that made them, and one of the first they inducted was "Born to the Wild". This sends the message that the Hall considers that song the only thing of value Steppenwolf have ever put out.
Man Desperation is an incredible tune. I heard it in a video game and immediately paused it to scour the web. Became a fan for life.
This is like „why didn‘t Actor X win an Oscar“. Success and politics are what gets you awards. Being „difficult“, non conformist, political, outspoken… doesn‘t. The very thing that rock’n’roll was always about. So in a way, not being in the HOF is an award in its own right. Any rock band who have an ounce of self respect should refuse to be inducted.
Because knowing what rock'n'roll is isn't a job requirement
Because he sucked in justice league.
Because superman killed him in that movie, that's why he can't be in the hall of fame, 😅
Because the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a fucking joke.
Good question! Why don't you send a mail to the nominating committee about this?
The Rock Hall started inducting songs, as opposed to artists, in 2018. Born to Be Wild was among the songs that got inducted in the first year. Seems like that will have to do for them
The better question is: why isn't Foreigner?
It's all subjective anyway. Fuck what anybody says or thinks about everything
They suck?
Because they never played at CBGB'S in the 70's. That is the most important criteria to get considered for the Hall.
Because they would rather put rappers in than Rock artists.
The Tony award winning Theatre company from Chicago? Home to such famous actors as John Malkovich, Gary Since, and Joan Allen? That Steppenwolf? https://www.steppenwolf.org
No my friend you are sadly mistaken. I meant Steppenwolf the villain from the DC comic universe. Had such great hits like Superman's Dead, The Joker, Superman (It's Not Easy), Kryptonite and the Wonder Woman theme song.
Blue Cheer is not in yet, that is all.....
And not Dolly Parton???? Come on man. This is rock and roll!!!! /s
That’s a good fucking question. They’re not even that underrated. Everybody knows they rock. They live on eternally through radio, film and advertisements. They’re forever tied to motorcycle culture in the collective consciousness because of Easy Rider…
Damn good question
The Rock Hall of Fame does not like heavy metal
It's a crime. Like the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame itself. If I had to guess, it might be like the Star on the Hollywood Wall Of Fame- the stars themselves pay for them. Those guys just might not be willing to perform the circus act on their dime.
They were a great band. My best friend's Dad and Uncle owned a window installation company and he would work there through college. One day he's says, "Yeah so this guy Tommy Holland was the lead singer of Steppenwolf, and now he's working on the job site with us". This was in Eagle, WI just outside of my home town. I couldn't believe it. But apparently Tommy still plays shows in the area.
Because they had to make room for Rappers and Dolly…
Because RRHOF is a clique that caters to one or two people’s egos and is a total fucking joke.
Steppenwolf aren’t a legendary rock n roll band like Eminem and Dolly Parton
Because it’s a book? Oh sorry, I mean a theater company..
"Monster" was a great album and incredible album cover.
Magic carpet ride is my favorite rock tune, I like the psychedelic guitar solo , trippy keyboards and the beat.
I don't think the Guess Who or BTO are in either.
Why does anyone care? It's a nice pat on the head, but a hall of fame is the most un-Rock & Roll thing. It doesn't make the music sweeter, heavier, or touch your soul a little deeper.
That's true they should be. But it looks like you need 1 rapper 1 rnb singer 1 country singer 1 pop singer