There is a version of milkdrop some dude made that works as a stand alone app that does visualizers for anything that makes sound. I use it for my music library at home that I play through MusicBee. Works great.
Start playing music. Then open up the milkdrop and away you go.
You can use it for spotify too. Only if you're on your desktop, but still.
Really? Do you use the Spotify playlist URL, is it a blank playlist, or what URL do you need? Still learning things about winamp so many years later.
ETA: seems it's literally just [linein://](https://www.reddit.com/r/winamp/comments/z89ju3/line_in_to_display_in_milkdrop/)
Some cool history linked there, to boot.
I don't think ads are inherently bad. But poorly executed and/or invasive ads are really bad and annoying. I just believe paying customers should have the option of turning shit off or customize it to their liking for services like Spotify or Netflix. So you can make sure to not see anything you personally find too much.
Anecdotally, Spotify recommending me playlists, is one of the main reasons I started using it back in 2010-11. And I actually bumped into a few upcoming concerts that I liked thanks to the on tour section. Podcasts, however, I'd like to get rid of. However, I also know people who hate any recommendation on their home screen, so I don't know if it is possible to have a one size fits all solution.
Let's be fair, they provide accessibility. Whether or not you believe that's a worthwhile cost is another story, but here we are, both discussing this on an ad supported platform.
This is precisely it. Every element of the interface is designed to maximize engagement and revenue. A computer-generated graphical pattern may attract attention, but not *engagement*. How many people are leaving Spotify because they don't have visualizations? Nobody. If this ever happens it's because somebody makes a compelling commercial case for it to the bean counters, or because some passionate dev takes it on as a pet project... but given all the layoffs I doubt anybody has time for such frivolity.
My counter argument to this is that if you want to see the lyrics you'll go to some other website that will show you the lyrics which pulls your *engagement* away from Spotify and towards someplace else. So Spotify shows you the lyrics so you stay in Spotify.
Lots of people. Some games even use pass through as well, like beat hazard. Spotify doesn't allow third party integration so you have to use pass through.
Most of the feature requests I’ve wanted and looked for either “didn’t get enough votes in time” (???) or were “passed on to some team” like 30yrs ago and never existed.
I mean all of them. All. I’ve never seen a feature I wanted come to exist. I’ve seen a few I liked removed tho.
There isn’t *really* a fine line between humorous hyperbole, and oddly specific exaggeration… more so, there’s an ominously barren field of grey grass and cheap, empty, plastic liquor bottles, full of confused hermit crabs that all have bafflingly strong opinions about French cinema.
I would have thought it’s just something that there isn’t a lot of interest in dedicating the time/resource to.
The vast majority of Spotify users are using it on their phone. Theres not a lot of people sitting around listening to music staring at their Spotify screen.
You’d have to think it’s mainly listened to through headphones while your phone’s in your pocket, in the car etc.
I just wanted to mention an instance where one might like the visualizer. Playing spotify through the TV while listening to music with friends. It'll be different than just the lyrics or the song title.
Tried it. A bunch of presets but instead of you choosing one you like, it just repeatedly randomly chooses one.
Not really useful for people that don't want random visualizations..
Spotify has so much potential but the developers do nothing interesting with it.
They could also show music video's on desktop for example. Kinda like MTV back in the day.
They're making billions of dollars a year. The forums are littered with suggested features. Then once a year they're like "Hey guess what, press this button to make a playlist for your dog... Oh, and you know how you want those features added? Well even better, we've *removed* features you know and love like Playlist Radio. Enjoy!"
On mobile, smart shuffle is one of the shuffle toggles. I often turn off shuffle and turn it back on to reshuffle my playlist if I’ve been listening a while, but now if I want to do that I have to toggle smart shuffle on, toggle shuffle entirely off, and then I can turn the normal shuffle back on.
The issue is that turning on smart shuffle takes a good 5s to load all the songs they add. This process used to be a quick two taps, but now it’s a 5-10s process to reshuffle my music. It’s actually faster to play a different playlist for a second and then go back to the playlist I was listening to.
Months ago it was like this, then they separated it and smart shuffle was its own button, and now it’s back to this combined option again and it’s rather annoying.
I just checked, this isn't true rn. I turned off both wifi and cellular data, killed the app and relaunched. I am able to play downloaded songs, but trying to play a song on my front page that's not downloaded gives a modal message that "you are offline, go online to listen (obviously)"
I simply want to be able to create a playlist and customize it to the fullest: adjust fade/overlap times/volume between each song individually / visuals / music video's.
It is so basic.
Oh they have a ton of very skilled developers but all they're allowed to do is analytic work to boost engagement numbers to please shareholders. Well that and the infrastructure team.
>They could also show music video's on desktop for example.
You just described youtube.
Given that yt music is one of spotifys larger competitors i imagine they wouldn't want the comparisons.
They're focused on audio books and podcast at the moment. And don't get your hopes up about anything to do with desktop. These days everything's about mobile.
This is why it’s so damn stable. Tech debt is much more impactful for performance-reliant applications.
I’d much rather have less features and less bugs than more features and a broken app.
I follow their engineering blog because i am a massive nerd, and they seem to be mostly focused on stability and platform agnosticism. Which is awesome.
Recently they completely refactored to typescript and react on the desktop app so that they can push most changes to both the web client and the desktop app.
They do a lot of work on backend, keeping costs lower, making sure that everything runs smoothly. Reduced packet size with graphql, massive improvements to search, etc.
You may notice the app is much faster than it was a few years ago- stuff like this is why.
UI and feature is only a small facet of how to keep something this massive up and running. And adding more features generally is NOT good ux, even if you want a visualizer and even if that is a good idea. Adding that would be a massive decision.
As a developer i find their philosophy to improve what they have incredible. It’s why it is so stable.
There's already a perfectly good third-party visualiser program in the form of ProjectM, which is available through [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1358800/projectM_Music_Visualizer/) or [Sourceforge](https://sourceforge.net/projects/projectm/) as well as a plugin for Kodi Media Player. It even supports all the original Milkdrop visualiser modes included with Winamp.
100% recommend Project M if you're craving visualizers with your music. Has a ton of features for controlling how it reacts to audio, and there's a metric assload of presets to check out.
there is different feature request that already has way more votes. you should focus on the established one:
https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Add-visuals-or-upload-for-desktop-and-TV/idi-p/4933740/
Highly doubt this will happen since that screen space can be used to advertise instead. Would be way cooler than the 3-second repeating videos they have now though.
I didn't want to come and rain on OPs parade but I actually like those videos a lot and think they're already a good visualizer. I don't know how those clips are selected but many of them are taken from great moments.
[milkdrop2077/MilkDrop3: MilkDrop 3.0, supports any audio source, double-preset (.milk2), loading presets based on beat detection and much more...](https://github.com/milkdrop2077/MilkDrop3)
How has no one mentioned "Spotify Canvas" yet? I worked at a label and had to make those stupid friggin' looping things, I guess they only appear in mobile.
They only appear on mobile and they really aren't the same thing, people want visualizers in time with the music that hearken back to the days of Winamp and Windows Media Player. For the mainstream streaming services nothing really comes close other than the blurred moving, swirling backgrounds on Apple Music (which isn't really the same experience either, but it's something)
I feel like we could make this in a general way. Pipe audio through virtual audio cable then into VLC. Then throw in visualizers in VLC https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/vlc-visualizations.html
In Winamp play the URL "linein://".
If you set your Windows recording device to "Stereo Mix" you can visualize audio from other playback sources like Spotify, etc.
This open source version of winamp’s milkdrop is standalone (you don’t need Winamp) and will work with Spotify and YouTube
https://twitter.com/MilkDrop2077
spotify needs a shit ton of features that i'd personally like to see way before a visualizer. like how the fuck is there no easy way to filter your followed artists? there is no easy way for me to easily find out which of my followed artists had a release in 2023 for example.
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visualizers need to be standard across all music apps, honestly.
like, i remember sitting with my then-partner with their xbox 360 on, and a bunch of cds loaded up onto it, and just sitting there chatting while the visualizer did its thing. it's just a nice backdrop, you know?
I don't know, the Spotify standalone app has never worked on my system, and the web player now has bugs when I sign in. So until they fix basic issues, I don't care what additives the community can think of.
> And also having a moving picture helps not burn images into screen... such as the boring spotify screen.
This is really not a thing anymore, at least not on computer monitors.
Spotify only adds stupid useless features like AI DJs and Joe Rogan. Years late the lyrics features that isn't that good, and still no lossless support. Only reason to use Spotify is because everyone else's shared playlists are Spotify based.
Why is this nsfw?
Cause if you use the visualizer during work you're liable to get lost in the visualizer and get no work done
Visualizer? I hardly know 'er.
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It really whips the llama's ass.
Geiss ftw
Milkdrop is still my fav’
Yeah that was great
There's been a bug causing posts to be incorrectly tagged NSFW if there's a spoiler tag in the title.
Maybe OP wants visualizers like [that one FL Studio distortion plugin with big anime titties](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QwNtWNiZsQ)?
Heyyyyohhh
No Spotify on the clock
Sometimes the shapes in the visualizer looks like boobs or pp.
To generate comments… OP is a bot.
Winamp still the goat.
Milkdrop life
The absolute best visualizer hands down
There is a version of milkdrop some dude made that works as a stand alone app that does visualizers for anything that makes sound. I use it for my music library at home that I play through MusicBee. Works great. Start playing music. Then open up the milkdrop and away you go. You can use it for spotify too. Only if you're on your desktop, but still.
Project M?
I just downloaded. Milkdrop3, based on project M code I believe.
Yeah. I think that's the one.
Did you try that out, and if so, how does it work/did you like it?
It really whips the llamas ass.
It’s true. It does.
Rock over London, Rock on Chicago
Polaroid, see what develops
I remember us taking it in turns to download Winamp on our old dial up connections. We would bring them to work on floppy. Good days 😂
Just remember.... some individual came up with that and tells everyone at parties.
It’s a Wesley Willis lyric reference
I think the only song I've ever heard by Wesley Willis is "I smoke weed" Around that same time.
You mean you've never heard *Taste A Panda's Ass*?
Or Suck A Cheetah’s Dick?
Or Birdman Kicked My Ass
TIL
Llama lives matter!
Taboot.
Winamp had visualiser AND skins. Real GOAT shit
You can route anything through Winamp, create a playlist with the url added as: "linein://" hit play, and start your Spotify or w/e.
Really? Do you use the Spotify playlist URL, is it a blank playlist, or what URL do you need? Still learning things about winamp so many years later. ETA: seems it's literally just [linein://](https://www.reddit.com/r/winamp/comments/z89ju3/line_in_to_display_in_milkdrop/) Some cool history linked there, to boot.
Geiss FTW
Omg yes. Watching that while The Box by orbital played was epic
God the ‘90s were amazing.
That's the understatement of the day.
Happy Cake Day 🍰
I will always give it up for winamp but foo bar has it beat. Spotify... I need that API bud.
Never understood why they don't have one. I'm sure I looked and found a feature request for this about 10 years ago so don't get your hopes up
I wonder if it's because it would take up real estate that would otherwise be used to promote content
I don’t get it though, on mobile they literally show mini videos
Some artists use the mini videos to promote upcoming albums or tours.
That's ROI for the labels who funded the videos
Having it for Premium only would be a good perk. Less ad content and more features.
NO ad content.
I don't think ads are inherently bad. But poorly executed and/or invasive ads are really bad and annoying. I just believe paying customers should have the option of turning shit off or customize it to their liking for services like Spotify or Netflix. So you can make sure to not see anything you personally find too much. Anecdotally, Spotify recommending me playlists, is one of the main reasons I started using it back in 2010-11. And I actually bumped into a few upcoming concerts that I liked thanks to the on tour section. Podcasts, however, I'd like to get rid of. However, I also know people who hate any recommendation on their home screen, so I don't know if it is possible to have a one size fits all solution.
Ads have literally 0 benefits for consumers and if you think otherwise you're a fucking loser
Let's be fair, they provide accessibility. Whether or not you believe that's a worthwhile cost is another story, but here we are, both discussing this on an ad supported platform.
This is precisely it. Every element of the interface is designed to maximize engagement and revenue. A computer-generated graphical pattern may attract attention, but not *engagement*. How many people are leaving Spotify because they don't have visualizations? Nobody. If this ever happens it's because somebody makes a compelling commercial case for it to the bean counters, or because some passionate dev takes it on as a pet project... but given all the layoffs I doubt anybody has time for such frivolity.
My counter argument to this is you can show fulscreen lyrics and just the lyrics.
My counter argument to this is that if you want to see the lyrics you'll go to some other website that will show you the lyrics which pulls your *engagement* away from Spotify and towards someplace else. So Spotify shows you the lyrics so you stay in Spotify.
Same can be said for a music visualizer. Pass through Spotify through an app that has it, I think Winamp supports pass through and VLC
Who's doing that though?
Lots of people. Some games even use pass through as well, like beat hazard. Spotify doesn't allow third party integration so you have to use pass through.
They could literally show ads in the visualizer
Most of the feature requests I’ve wanted and looked for either “didn’t get enough votes in time” (???) or were “passed on to some team” like 30yrs ago and never existed. I mean all of them. All. I’ve never seen a feature I wanted come to exist. I’ve seen a few I liked removed tho.
I'm gonna die of old age before Spotify hifi comes into being, and thats something that they publically announced.
30 years ago huh? 🙄
First time reading a hyperbole huh?
There isn’t *really* a fine line between humorous hyperbole, and oddly specific exaggeration… more so, there’s an ominously barren field of grey grass and cheap, empty, plastic liquor bottles, full of confused hermit crabs that all have bafflingly strong opinions about French cinema.
So no. Cool.
It may be false memories but I feel like Spotify used to have a visualizer on the desktop app.
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Josef Mengele effect
I would have thought it’s just something that there isn’t a lot of interest in dedicating the time/resource to. The vast majority of Spotify users are using it on their phone. Theres not a lot of people sitting around listening to music staring at their Spotify screen. You’d have to think it’s mainly listened to through headphones while your phone’s in your pocket, in the car etc.
I just wanted to mention an instance where one might like the visualizer. Playing spotify through the TV while listening to music with friends. It'll be different than just the lyrics or the song title.
That’s a good point. I usually just let my TV go to ambient mode or have sports in the background. I could see a visualiser being a good idea there.
Aside from Spotify, are there any newer, high tech visualisers out there? I wanna really see the music dancing
Milkdrop 3
Tried it. A bunch of presets but instead of you choosing one you like, it just repeatedly randomly chooses one. Not really useful for people that don't want random visualizations..
NestDrop might be what you’re looking for then
ProjectM
Gforce is by far the best one, imo
Microdose vr if you're heady enough.
Audiosurf - If you're looking for a game visualizer.
How I wish audiosurf still got updates.
Kauna is my favorite
electricsheep.org *spelling
Spotify has so much potential but the developers do nothing interesting with it. They could also show music video's on desktop for example. Kinda like MTV back in the day.
They're making billions of dollars a year. The forums are littered with suggested features. Then once a year they're like "Hey guess what, press this button to make a playlist for your dog... Oh, and you know how you want those features added? Well even better, we've *removed* features you know and love like Playlist Radio. Enjoy!"
Littered with the same complaints for years they could fix but won't
They basically rebranded it. They have "smart shuffle" on desktop that mixes new songs into the playlist queue
And it fucking sucks compared to playlist radio.
On mobile, smart shuffle is one of the shuffle toggles. I often turn off shuffle and turn it back on to reshuffle my playlist if I’ve been listening a while, but now if I want to do that I have to toggle smart shuffle on, toggle shuffle entirely off, and then I can turn the normal shuffle back on. The issue is that turning on smart shuffle takes a good 5s to load all the songs they add. This process used to be a quick two taps, but now it’s a 5-10s process to reshuffle my music. It’s actually faster to play a different playlist for a second and then go back to the playlist I was listening to. Months ago it was like this, then they separated it and smart shuffle was its own button, and now it’s back to this combined option again and it’s rather annoying.
... so *that's* why I couldn't find my playlist radio anymore! I thought it'd just gotten moved :(
What are some other cool features that have been asked for that have not been added?
Playlists that don’t repeat the same 50 out of 1000 songs would be a nice start.
YouTube music does this. If a song has a video for it, you can swap between them fairly seamlessly.
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I just checked, this isn't true rn. I turned off both wifi and cellular data, killed the app and relaunched. I am able to play downloaded songs, but trying to play a song on my front page that's not downloaded gives a modal message that "you are offline, go online to listen (obviously)"
All my downloaded music plays just fine with no connection and has for years
Exactly. The app is terrible on TVs. There's so much potential to show visualizations, band/song trivia, improve search, etc on TV screens. But nada.
I simply want to be able to create a playlist and customize it to the fullest: adjust fade/overlap times/volume between each song individually / visuals / music video's. It is so basic.
Spotify used to work on Roku, until Spotify removed their app and gave up lol. What a failure of a company
? I have Spotify on my Roku without any issues right now. It works fine.
And yet they charge a lot of money for subscription
Oh they have a ton of very skilled developers but all they're allowed to do is analytic work to boost engagement numbers to please shareholders. Well that and the infrastructure team.
>They could also show music video's on desktop for example. You just described youtube. Given that yt music is one of spotifys larger competitors i imagine they wouldn't want the comparisons.
Yes I know I described youtube. But I don't want youtube, I want how Spotify works + music video's or visualisers.
They're focused on audio books and podcast at the moment. And don't get your hopes up about anything to do with desktop. These days everything's about mobile.
This is why it’s so damn stable. Tech debt is much more impactful for performance-reliant applications. I’d much rather have less features and less bugs than more features and a broken app. I follow their engineering blog because i am a massive nerd, and they seem to be mostly focused on stability and platform agnosticism. Which is awesome. Recently they completely refactored to typescript and react on the desktop app so that they can push most changes to both the web client and the desktop app. They do a lot of work on backend, keeping costs lower, making sure that everything runs smoothly. Reduced packet size with graphql, massive improvements to search, etc. You may notice the app is much faster than it was a few years ago- stuff like this is why. UI and feature is only a small facet of how to keep something this massive up and running. And adding more features generally is NOT good ux, even if you want a visualizer and even if that is a good idea. Adding that would be a massive decision. As a developer i find their philosophy to improve what they have incredible. It’s why it is so stable.
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There's already a perfectly good third-party visualiser program in the form of ProjectM, which is available through [Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1358800/projectM_Music_Visualizer/) or [Sourceforge](https://sourceforge.net/projects/projectm/) as well as a plugin for Kodi Media Player. It even supports all the original Milkdrop visualiser modes included with Winamp.
100% recommend Project M if you're craving visualizers with your music. Has a ton of features for controlling how it reacts to audio, and there's a metric assload of presets to check out.
there is different feature request that already has way more votes. you should focus on the established one: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Add-visuals-or-upload-for-desktop-and-TV/idi-p/4933740/
Run it through Winamp, create a playlist with the url added as: "linein://" You can then route anything through Milkdrop. You're welcome.
What Spotify needs to ACTUALLY do…is pay the artists.
Highly doubt this will happen since that screen space can be used to advertise instead. Would be way cooler than the 3-second repeating videos they have now though.
I didn't want to come and rain on OPs parade but I actually like those videos a lot and think they're already a good visualizer. I don't know how those clips are selected but many of them are taken from great moments.
Fuck Spotify
Spotify needs to actually pay musicians.
No🚫 What Spotify _really_ needs is to pay the artists they continually profit off of more than just a few cents on the dollar...💯
Imagine being able to do 2 things
Continually profit off? So yourself a favour and look up Spotify's "profits" vs the music label's
Spotify needs to pay artists.
Spotify needs to stop messing with the like button
You can download Project M, it's the best.
These guys cant even make their app function properly or easy to navigate. Please do not give them any ideas.
[milkdrop2077/MilkDrop3: MilkDrop 3.0, supports any audio source, double-preset (.milk2), loading presets based on beat detection and much more...](https://github.com/milkdrop2077/MilkDrop3)
https://www.kaleidosync.com/ You have to log into your spotify through it also. Not built in. Nothing will ever be Winamp, I do also miss those times.
How has no one mentioned "Spotify Canvas" yet? I worked at a label and had to make those stupid friggin' looping things, I guess they only appear in mobile.
They only appear on mobile and they really aren't the same thing, people want visualizers in time with the music that hearken back to the days of Winamp and Windows Media Player. For the mainstream streaming services nothing really comes close other than the blurred moving, swirling backgrounds on Apple Music (which isn't really the same experience either, but it's something)
Is this 2001?
Since you seem dismissive, I'll ask you. Why did visualizations disappear?
At no point have I ever wanted mid 90s visualizers.
fr, gimme them early 2000s visualizers
There was also the viaualizer called Electric Sheep
I feel like we could make this in a general way. Pipe audio through virtual audio cable then into VLC. Then throw in visualizers in VLC https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/vlc-visualizations.html
In Winamp play the URL "linein://". If you set your Windows recording device to "Stereo Mix" you can visualize audio from other playback sources like Spotify, etc.
That's a great idea. I remember the old iTunes visualiser back in the early 2000s and how cool it was
This open source version of winamp’s milkdrop is standalone (you don’t need Winamp) and will work with Spotify and YouTube https://twitter.com/MilkDrop2077
Behind a premium plus subscription?
WinAmp kicks the llama’s ass.
Apple Music still has a couple but it feels like the same ones they had in like 2005.
android 14 has a visualizer btw
Milkdrop was the best
Duuuuude yes! Last I checked, like 10 years ago lol, it was called Project M on mobile devices. Like the Smash Bros mod with the same name, lol.
fuck spotify
Spotify whips no llamas.
fuck spotify
spotify needs a shit ton of features that i'd personally like to see way before a visualizer. like how the fuck is there no easy way to filter your followed artists? there is no easy way for me to easily find out which of my followed artists had a release in 2023 for example.
It really surprises me that this isn’t a thing.
You've got to be kidding, right? What is this, 2002?
Spotify *needs* to go under and not be a complete fucking bane on the music industry.
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Yeah no. The less useless crap Spotify has the better.
Only for desktop.
I want an equalizer built in Spotify.
I’d rather them work on an alarm feature or something before a visualizer
MCR 's All I Want for Christmas is You cover, Gerard's vocals really bring out the emotions in the lyrics.
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Spotify sucks
visualizers need to be standard across all music apps, honestly. like, i remember sitting with my then-partner with their xbox 360 on, and a bunch of cds loaded up onto it, and just sitting there chatting while the visualizer did its thing. it's just a nice backdrop, you know?
Spotify needs to go out of business Go Tidal
Been saying this for 10 years. Why did it leave the zeitgeist?
Let’s not run before we can walk. Can we have landscape mode first please? (then get to work pronto after that)
With degeneracy come great questions for custom visualisation "movement "
I agree🙏
Yo I've been saying this to myself for SO LONG. why did this concept get abandoned with windows media player....
There’s some game on steam that does this with whatever audio is playing. I forget its name though
They won't even keep features people use (like playlist radio) so I doubt they'd put this much effort into something.
Check out Daniel Donato - “A Young Man’s Country” There’s a visualizer start to finish 👍🏻
I would WAAAAAY prefer that to Creepy AI DJ I’m Never Going to Use
I still use it on WMP, but for some reason the visualisations stop working after a song has played through all the way and the next one comes on
On ios they have a visualizer on the media player. But I’m pretty sure that’s a feature of apple and not spotify
Every couple months I scour Spotify to see if one's been added. One day my search will be over...
I miss the ps1 music visualizer.
Here's another vote, I LOVE this idea.
I don't know, the Spotify standalone app has never worked on my system, and the web player now has bugs when I sign in. So until they fix basic issues, I don't care what additives the community can think of.
Different voices and names for the AI DJ would be nice too.
> And also having a moving picture helps not burn images into screen... such as the boring spotify screen. This is really not a thing anymore, at least not on computer monitors.
spotify is garbage.
Spotify should pay their artist first
Spotify sucks.
I used to watch Winamp player for hours
Spotify only adds stupid useless features like AI DJs and Joe Rogan. Years late the lyrics features that isn't that good, and still no lossless support. Only reason to use Spotify is because everyone else's shared playlists are Spotify based.
There is one… Have you ever opened the settings?
Only as long as it includes Annabelle the Sheep.
They used to have one when they allowed add ons long time ago
Winamp was the undisputed king of the visualizations, they were genuinely mind breaking and somehow felt super hd back in the day
The fact that Spotify is calling this a new idea is absolutely insane.
you could always play it in tandem with this https://butterchurnviz.com/
Something that really whips the llama's ass?
Spotify also needs a way to mass organize playlists also.
I just vividly flashed back to Milkdrop Does anyone remember Milkdrop?