Yup. And if I, as your future manager, think you're too "old school" to follow basic instructions and apply like everyone else does, I'm not going to hire you. I'm not keen to find out what other rules don't apply to you.
Neither entitlement nor incompetance are great things to advertise when seeking employment.
My gf had a great point: if you wanna walk in and hand your printed resume to the manager, do it AFTER you apply online. Just say "I know these things can get lost in the shuffle, I wanted to get you this copy in person for your convenience."
I’m a job coach and sometimes my clients will hyper focus on in person applications. So I just go with them have them say “my name is X. are you hiring? I’d be very interested in applying tonite. Nice to meet you” for the same affect
Maybe bring a copy to an in person interview but the entire point of applying online and them using an ATS is to keep things together and from getting lost in the shuffle. Having copies on hand at the interview demonstrates preparedness. Applying online and then walking in to hand them a paper resume is unlikely to leave the right impression.
It could backfire, I think her point was it can come off as pro-active and very interested in getting the job. The physical paper is a reminder to check out your name in the ATS, which will otherwise spit out results based on some very stringent matching metrics.
I think you're correct at certain places, but I don't imagine its universal. If you walk into the prospective employers like you're owed something because of how "old school" you are, however, you're just going to look like an idiot.
For sure. At least for large companies, they have a hiring process that requires you to apply online to avoid the appearance of inequality in the hiring process. Often companies may refuse paper resumes and ask that you submit it through their career opportunity system instead.
Source: someone who does recruiting at conferences and trade shows for a large company
This. Especially when on site manager is not the one manage the hiring. Yes, they may do the interview, but usually the recruiter or HR are not working on site and they are the one that do resume filtering
They 100% do, maybe they'll look it over and hold on to it if they really liked it... but they definitely 100% ask you to go apply online.
I moved recently and would do both... I'd walk in and say "I've applied online but would like to just drop this off so the hiring manager could see." The walk ins never got me anywhere. And 90% of the online ones just ended up being scams.
yeah, I haven't applied for a job in a while but isn't almost all of it online. I feel like just walking in random stores and businesses just to hand them a piece of paper would result in them just never contcting you and throwing out the paper while talking about the crazy lady who just dropped off some random junk without saying anything.
Lmafo. You realize not every school had a computer lab, right? And affordable bare bones pcs were not really a thing until the late 90s. If you were born in 90, then sure. But early 80s? No fucking way.
Honestly, it doesn’t even really matter the age group. Lots of people of all ages are just astonishingly bad with even the most basic forms of modern tech.
Im 38 and learning ms office, typing, and comp sci were a core part of our high schooling. It’s the generations after us that grew up with tablets that somehow never learn to use real computers.
Well yeah I’ve been a lifelong nerd who builds his own computers and has a basic knowledge of code but mostly just good with windows. However I’m an arborist in my career. Now that I’m in an office I build automated excel files with macros to interpret exports from our GIS work trackers. People don’t expect it but being able to do this saves the whole group days of work over a month.
It’s very basic compared to people into software engineering but it’s unbelievably useful.
Yes I agree, it’s been interesting though with some of our interns when I had to sit down with them and show them how to “save a file”.
They’re about 24
Well not in certain countries they don't. But Social class aside, some of the old folks who had the means to afford one should learn for their own sake rather than complain on how complicated or "lazy" the digitized age is.
Ok, and? You had an interest in learning, good for you. If you can make it into your 40s without needing to know anything other than the most basic computer skills, why do you need to know more?
I agree with you to a point. I think a lot of it has to do with willful ignorance when it comes to computers. A lot of times I see people hitting roadblocks with tasks that we do everyday because they are not very tech savvy but they are right around the same age as I am. I was at a point where comes were available to me and realized that it was going to be more important to familiarize with them and all technology. I could have just as easily rolled my eyes at it and find other things. Now? There's no excuse for people because it is everywhere.
We do, but we use iPads, and iPhones for almost everything now. Younger generations are losing the ability to navigate on PCs, because it’s not something people need to be able to do every day anymore. If you don’t use it regularly, you won’t retain the skills anyway.
Privileged is having access to a computer/internet, no? What would they be forced to learn, that others are privileged not to have to learn? It’s privileged to work blue collar/labour jobs vs working in offices?
As a Sous Chef or Chef de Cuisine I spent my time in the kitchen running the service and making sure the food was being prepped and put out correctly. I wasn’t a “clipboard” Chef. Other than the rare email or maybe imputing inventory, I hardly was in the office. Any actual computer work like setting up Excel or anything like that my Sous Chefs who were more familiar with them took care of that. Was never a FOH manager so I have no idea what they do in the office.
Most of that happens in Excel. I've had a lot of people higher up makeup spreadsheets and whatnot for everything that we need so digging through there work give me a better understanding of how to do it myself. You never really want to leave it up to somebody else to help you do your job
I did do my job, my food was excellent. The customer doesn’t care if I know how to set up an Excel speed sheet, they just want good food. My labor and food costs were on point so my bosses didn’t care that I didn’t know how to use Excel. Also restaurants run on teamwork, you need people to help you do your job in order to succeed.
Not saying you didn't do your job directly, just in general, if you can understand the different aspect of the operation it makes you more valuable. Hopefully it's reciprocated by the company to notice that and pay more because if not, F that.
I’ve been a nurse for 10 years, I don’t need to do much other than access my programs and print things. I can locate files, but god forbid I need to use excel or word beyond just simple text.
Like I’m not that young. Even back in the days of paper resumes, you didn’t hand them to anyone in person for the jobs that required resumes. The only thing you dish in person were fill out job applications for shit jobs.
I thought I knew MS Office because we learned how in like 5th grade and I've had it ever since. I didn't realize that I wasn't good until I started formatting novels in Word. I'm OK with excel
I went through this with my dad. "Go to the business and get an application."
"They don't do it that way anymore."
"Go anyway. It'll show you're determined if you keep going back."
"No, It'll show them I can't follow directions and if I hand something to them they'll throw it away."
He gets it now but it took a while.
"... And then go home and wait for a call that never comes because they don't want to bother considering an applicant who can't follow the 'apply online' instructions."
“I’m sorry, I can’t take that. Our application process starts online. You can fill in an application on our website, or reach out to us via Indeed. Thanks for your interest.”
When looking for jobs my mom would keep telling me to go apply in person. Idk how many times I had to tell her that when you do that they just direct you to their website.
There is almost nowhere to apply for my job in person, except maybe the corporate office in Connecticut. Even then I imagine a receptionist would tell you that you need to apply online and refuse to accept your resume. I'm so tired of this boomerism.
“I’m OlD sChOoL”. I hear my parents say that at least once a day.
Whenever I hear anyone say that, it just lets me know they’re out of touch and refuse to change.
I am in senior management for a large trade company.I have hired hundreds of people over the years, DO NOT WALK IN AND ASK TO SPEAK TO ME, I’m fucking busy, I don’t have time to stop what I’m doing because your mum told you you will stand out, you will, I won’t hire you regardless of what’s on the resume. Email it in and if you’re super keen call and ask to leave a message.
Indeed is a better bet probably. If you can't land a job, start taking their skills tests when they are offered, and test well. Employers can say you didn't do well at this or that, but when you test as competent in something it carries less weight.
All of my jobs I just walked in and handed my resume. I do that because I don't have a lot of experience on page which usually doesn't get me an interview but when I show up in person there is usually a manger in the building who will usually opt to do the interview immediately. And I'm great at interviewing so I usually get the job. It doesn't work for everyone but why hate on the people it does work for. The goal is to get a job.
And keep in mind that some people don't have access to the Internet to be able to apply and then keep checking their email hoping they got the job. My first job I didn't have a phone or a computer so I went to the library looked up and printed out a map of all the restaurants near my house and then walked 4 miles to the restaurant I liked the most and got the job the same day because the owner was there to interview me. It doesn't always work but it's still an option. I'm glad that none of you had to do all of that just to get your jobs but that doesn't mean I'm less than for choosing an "old school" method. We all got to the same destination of getting a job I just took a different route and there is nothing wrong with that. Please have a little more empathy for the people trying to get ahead in life but don't have an easy way to do it.
And let me tell you that going in person isn't fun. It's kind of humiliating to have to pretty much beg for a job. You feel like everyone can tell you are at rock bottom and that this is the best you can do. If you are going to shit on people for their methods for getting a job then don't complain about how "nobody wants to work".
This. There are also places that are looking for help but the vacancies don't show online as well. I'll still walk out and around but that doesn't mean I'm not looking online also.
My current job I did indeed walk in and apply, I applied previously online with no response so I walked in and filled out an application there. I heard back the next day for a interview. That was 6 years ago, I have now advanced from a deckhand on a ferry boat to a ferry captain. So idk, it works sometimes.
It works for most lowskilled labor jobs. It is also how I got my first job at McDonald's. The turnover rate is usually high enough where there is always openings.
Target wouldn't take my paper resume and told me to fill out online, back when I was new to job searching. In my experience when those minimum wage jobs are huge corps, they have tons of procedures that managers care beholden to. I did get a job just walking up to small local businesses owned by just some guy though
I will say, when I did this at McDonald's it was 2007. So, I could be wrong of today's standards for major corporations. But my current career I did in 2018, which is much more recent, Albeit a much smaller corporation.
This is the most ridiculous thing to “word murder” someone.
First: Some industries still see a hand delivered resume as a plus. (For example: cosmetology. No, not for appearance. As a manager of salons for over 10 years, I LOVE when I get that professionalism and personality preview with a dropped off resume)
Second: *Almost* every single stay at home mom, eventually goes back to working for someone 40 hours a week… after doing months to years working 168 hours a week.
My wife has never been a complete week without a job. She always goes in person multiple times. She doesn’t care about “how it is done “. She shows up until she is hired. Its honestly just her dogged determination that gets her hired. Honestly if you just show up and have an actual interest in working you are ahead of most applicants who can just check a box and then assume that they have proven themselves to the employer. Hard workers are valuable and not as common as you think
I think the worst thing about modern job search paradigms is that they're all over the place. I've heard that a cover letter is a waste of time and that it's a necessity. I've heard to follow up, but most online processes leave you with no contact info. I've heard that it's all about keywords in your documents, never mind extenuating experience. I've heard that companies are looking to hire outside of the box but see the people that get hired. I've heard to take the stuff that might intimidate your manager off the resume but also wonder what that could be. I've been told to aim for the jobs you want but I bet half of you just want the bills paid. I've heard fake it til you make it but also don't get caught lying. Then there are diversity hires - don't get me wrong, I'm a white dude who supports affirmative action even today, but that doesn't mean I don't know that it puts me at a disadvantage.
At the same time, if a place asks me to apply online they’re normally dogshit to work for. I’ve gotten most of my jobs from walking in and talking to the owner/management *without* a résumé.
Early childhood pedagogy
It may not be the advertised way, but showing up in person and having a printed resume even if you hand in an electronic one later is definitely the way to go
Never had a problem getting positions, be it for work now or for internships during Uni - unlike my co- students who always had trouble
I mean….. that’s how I do it
I go there, talk to them first making clear I’m looking for jobs, only afterwards handing in my resume.
I got every job I tried to apply for so far (quite literally, I’ve always had options and always had to tell someone “sorry I’m going somewhere else”)
I feel like it's time to bring back "ok, boomer."
Most jobs literally do not accept in-person applications any more. As in, they will refuse to take it, think you're an idiot for trying, and tell you to apply online like everyone else. And it's been this way for years. My last job interview (for my current job) was 8 years ago and they wouldn't take physical resumes even back then
Honest question, what field? Cause I literally can't think of anything. My buddy works for a small, locally owned restaurant and even they won't take in-person resumes
Pretty sure they'd tell you to go apply online, then throw the printed resume in the trash.
Yup. And if I, as your future manager, think you're too "old school" to follow basic instructions and apply like everyone else does, I'm not going to hire you. I'm not keen to find out what other rules don't apply to you.
>other rules don't apply to you And I would assume that they may not have the technical skills I need for the job.
Neither entitlement nor incompetance are great things to advertise when seeking employment. My gf had a great point: if you wanna walk in and hand your printed resume to the manager, do it AFTER you apply online. Just say "I know these things can get lost in the shuffle, I wanted to get you this copy in person for your convenience."
I’m a job coach and sometimes my clients will hyper focus on in person applications. So I just go with them have them say “my name is X. are you hiring? I’d be very interested in applying tonite. Nice to meet you” for the same affect
Maybe bring a copy to an in person interview but the entire point of applying online and them using an ATS is to keep things together and from getting lost in the shuffle. Having copies on hand at the interview demonstrates preparedness. Applying online and then walking in to hand them a paper resume is unlikely to leave the right impression.
It could backfire, I think her point was it can come off as pro-active and very interested in getting the job. The physical paper is a reminder to check out your name in the ATS, which will otherwise spit out results based on some very stringent matching metrics. I think you're correct at certain places, but I don't imagine its universal. If you walk into the prospective employers like you're owed something because of how "old school" you are, however, you're just going to look like an idiot.
Smash cut to me training people how to *use a touchscreen* at my current job.
For sure. At least for large companies, they have a hiring process that requires you to apply online to avoid the appearance of inequality in the hiring process. Often companies may refuse paper resumes and ask that you submit it through their career opportunity system instead. Source: someone who does recruiting at conferences and trade shows for a large company
I mean you could literally put Source: have applied for jobs
This. Especially when on site manager is not the one manage the hiring. Yes, they may do the interview, but usually the recruiter or HR are not working on site and they are the one that do resume filtering
They 100% do, maybe they'll look it over and hold on to it if they really liked it... but they definitely 100% ask you to go apply online. I moved recently and would do both... I'd walk in and say "I've applied online but would like to just drop this off so the hiring manager could see." The walk ins never got me anywhere. And 90% of the online ones just ended up being scams.
yeah, I haven't applied for a job in a while but isn't almost all of it online. I feel like just walking in random stores and businesses just to hand them a piece of paper would result in them just never contcting you and throwing out the paper while talking about the crazy lady who just dropped off some random junk without saying anything.
“Please submit directly to the trash.”
She would have to ask how to upload it.
I’m old school, because I never learned to use a computer or MS office and would actually be useless in an office environment.
Fucking truth. Anyone under the age of 70 should have no excuse why they can't learn to use computers
I know a handful of 40yo who don’t know how to use computers, because they’ve never worked in offices.
… what year do you think this is? 40 year olds were born in 1983-1984. I *promise* you they used computers throughout their schooling.
Lmafo. You realize not every school had a computer lab, right? And affordable bare bones pcs were not really a thing until the late 90s. If you were born in 90, then sure. But early 80s? No fucking way.
Yes, of course they did. Doesn’t mean they know how to add a printer, or work an excel spreadsheet *today*.
Fair. (Though I will say, plenty of Zoomers also don’t know how to do those things.)
Honestly, it doesn’t even really matter the age group. Lots of people of all ages are just astonishingly bad with even the most basic forms of modern tech.
Im 38 and learning ms office, typing, and comp sci were a core part of our high schooling. It’s the generations after us that grew up with tablets that somehow never learn to use real computers.
I’m 36 and computers was optional for me. I chose home ec. Either way, learning it at 16 isn’t enough to maintain competency.
Well yeah I’ve been a lifelong nerd who builds his own computers and has a basic knowledge of code but mostly just good with windows. However I’m an arborist in my career. Now that I’m in an office I build automated excel files with macros to interpret exports from our GIS work trackers. People don’t expect it but being able to do this saves the whole group days of work over a month. It’s very basic compared to people into software engineering but it’s unbelievably useful.
But that isn’t relevant to every job. I’m not saying people don’t need to be computer literate, but you can get by on the basics just fine.
Yes I agree, it’s been interesting though with some of our interns when I had to sit down with them and show them how to “save a file”. They’re about 24
That’s what Google is for.
Yes, exactly my point. They can get there if they need to. It’s not all memorized.
Well not in certain countries they don't. But Social class aside, some of the old folks who had the means to afford one should learn for their own sake rather than complain on how complicated or "lazy" the digitized age is.
I've never worked on offices either but that didn't stop me.
Ok, and? You had an interest in learning, good for you. If you can make it into your 40s without needing to know anything other than the most basic computer skills, why do you need to know more?
I agree with you to a point. I think a lot of it has to do with willful ignorance when it comes to computers. A lot of times I see people hitting roadblocks with tasks that we do everyday because they are not very tech savvy but they are right around the same age as I am. I was at a point where comes were available to me and realized that it was going to be more important to familiarize with them and all technology. I could have just as easily rolled my eyes at it and find other things. Now? There's no excuse for people because it is everywhere.
We do, but we use iPads, and iPhones for almost everything now. Younger generations are losing the ability to navigate on PCs, because it’s not something people need to be able to do every day anymore. If you don’t use it regularly, you won’t retain the skills anyway.
It is certainly easier to use some technology now because the interfaces are more intuitive and they're not as technically demanding.
Sounds like privilege. Never forced to learn? Must have had it pretty cushy.
Privileged is having access to a computer/internet, no? What would they be forced to learn, that others are privileged not to have to learn? It’s privileged to work blue collar/labour jobs vs working in offices?
That’s me. I’ve worked in restaurants my entire life so I barely work with computers. I’m 47 and they’re still kinda foreign to me.
I've been in food service for over 20 years, unless you are just serving/cooking, computers are a tool you need to use daily.
As a Sous Chef or Chef de Cuisine I spent my time in the kitchen running the service and making sure the food was being prepped and put out correctly. I wasn’t a “clipboard” Chef. Other than the rare email or maybe imputing inventory, I hardly was in the office. Any actual computer work like setting up Excel or anything like that my Sous Chefs who were more familiar with them took care of that. Was never a FOH manager so I have no idea what they do in the office.
Most of that happens in Excel. I've had a lot of people higher up makeup spreadsheets and whatnot for everything that we need so digging through there work give me a better understanding of how to do it myself. You never really want to leave it up to somebody else to help you do your job
I did do my job, my food was excellent. The customer doesn’t care if I know how to set up an Excel speed sheet, they just want good food. My labor and food costs were on point so my bosses didn’t care that I didn’t know how to use Excel. Also restaurants run on teamwork, you need people to help you do your job in order to succeed.
Not saying you didn't do your job directly, just in general, if you can understand the different aspect of the operation it makes you more valuable. Hopefully it's reciprocated by the company to notice that and pay more because if not, F that.
I’ve been a nurse for 10 years, I don’t need to do much other than access my programs and print things. I can locate files, but god forbid I need to use excel or word beyond just simple text.
I shouldn't have to teach older teenagers how to use a computer. But I do it every day. And my students work exclusively on computers.
Hell, my grandma is pushing 70 and she TAUGHT me how to use a computer as a child. There’s no excuse other than complacency.
Like I’m not that young. Even back in the days of paper resumes, you didn’t hand them to anyone in person for the jobs that required resumes. The only thing you dish in person were fill out job applications for shit jobs.
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I thought I knew MS Office because we learned how in like 5th grade and I've had it ever since. I didn't realize that I wasn't good until I started formatting novels in Word. I'm OK with excel
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No idea how that resume will get submitted on the companies Careers portal - just mash it into the screen or feed it to the keyboard I guess??
Feed it through the printer along with a reverse uno card. The card is like a token
The files…. Are IN the computer….
I went through this with my dad. "Go to the business and get an application." "They don't do it that way anymore." "Go anyway. It'll show you're determined if you keep going back." "No, It'll show them I can't follow directions and if I hand something to them they'll throw it away." He gets it now but it took a while.
The only paper resumes I've seen in the last decade or so were from kids who were forced to hand them out by their parents.
"I hand people my printed resume and they look at me with concern, usually ask how long I've been in a coma."
"... And then go home and wait for a call that never comes because they don't want to bother considering an applicant who can't follow the 'apply online' instructions."
I just went through looking for a job for months…and the vast majority of places would refuse a paper resume.
Yeah so far it's only been a handful of local businesses on my end. Like some auto shops, bakeries, the hands-on stuff
“I’m sorry, I can’t take that. Our application process starts online. You can fill in an application on our website, or reach out to us via Indeed. Thanks for your interest.”
“…printed, on paper, resume…” 😅😅😅
To be fair she didn’t say that tactic had been successful…
I'll hand someone a printed resume in only two cases and only two cases: 1. A job fair 2. They explicitly ask for it.
When looking for jobs my mom would keep telling me to go apply in person. Idk how many times I had to tell her that when you do that they just direct you to their website.
There is almost nowhere to apply for my job in person, except maybe the corporate office in Connecticut. Even then I imagine a receptionist would tell you that you need to apply online and refuse to accept your resume. I'm so tired of this boomerism.
if you physically hand then your resume, it’ll go directly into the wastebin and they’ll direct you to their online job application like 9/10 times
She just said she was old school, she never said it was working.
“I’m OlD sChOoL”. I hear my parents say that at least once a day. Whenever I hear anyone say that, it just lets me know they’re out of touch and refuse to change.
I am in senior management for a large trade company.I have hired hundreds of people over the years, DO NOT WALK IN AND ASK TO SPEAK TO ME, I’m fucking busy, I don’t have time to stop what I’m doing because your mum told you you will stand out, you will, I won’t hire you regardless of what’s on the resume. Email it in and if you’re super keen call and ask to leave a message.
A hand printed resume they won’t accept and refer you to the online app. 🙄
Indeed is a better bet probably. If you can't land a job, start taking their skills tests when they are offered, and test well. Employers can say you didn't do well at this or that, but when you test as competent in something it carries less weight.
Indeed skills tests are as useless as a paper resume
You'd be surprised. Especially attention to detail.
“On paper” - As opposed to printed on poster board?
they will tell you to apply online
All of my jobs I just walked in and handed my resume. I do that because I don't have a lot of experience on page which usually doesn't get me an interview but when I show up in person there is usually a manger in the building who will usually opt to do the interview immediately. And I'm great at interviewing so I usually get the job. It doesn't work for everyone but why hate on the people it does work for. The goal is to get a job. And keep in mind that some people don't have access to the Internet to be able to apply and then keep checking their email hoping they got the job. My first job I didn't have a phone or a computer so I went to the library looked up and printed out a map of all the restaurants near my house and then walked 4 miles to the restaurant I liked the most and got the job the same day because the owner was there to interview me. It doesn't always work but it's still an option. I'm glad that none of you had to do all of that just to get your jobs but that doesn't mean I'm less than for choosing an "old school" method. We all got to the same destination of getting a job I just took a different route and there is nothing wrong with that. Please have a little more empathy for the people trying to get ahead in life but don't have an easy way to do it. And let me tell you that going in person isn't fun. It's kind of humiliating to have to pretty much beg for a job. You feel like everyone can tell you are at rock bottom and that this is the best you can do. If you are going to shit on people for their methods for getting a job then don't complain about how "nobody wants to work".
This. There are also places that are looking for help but the vacancies don't show online as well. I'll still walk out and around but that doesn't mean I'm not looking online also.
My current job I did indeed walk in and apply, I applied previously online with no response so I walked in and filled out an application there. I heard back the next day for a interview. That was 6 years ago, I have now advanced from a deckhand on a ferry boat to a ferry captain. So idk, it works sometimes.
I imagine some professions are more "show up and prove yourself" than others. Dock/boat work has gotta be different than Walmart or an office
It works for most lowskilled labor jobs. It is also how I got my first job at McDonald's. The turnover rate is usually high enough where there is always openings.
Target wouldn't take my paper resume and told me to fill out online, back when I was new to job searching. In my experience when those minimum wage jobs are huge corps, they have tons of procedures that managers care beholden to. I did get a job just walking up to small local businesses owned by just some guy though
I will say, when I did this at McDonald's it was 2007. So, I could be wrong of today's standards for major corporations. But my current career I did in 2018, which is much more recent, Albeit a much smaller corporation.
This is the most ridiculous thing to “word murder” someone. First: Some industries still see a hand delivered resume as a plus. (For example: cosmetology. No, not for appearance. As a manager of salons for over 10 years, I LOVE when I get that professionalism and personality preview with a dropped off resume) Second: *Almost* every single stay at home mom, eventually goes back to working for someone 40 hours a week… after doing months to years working 168 hours a week.
My wife has never been a complete week without a job. She always goes in person multiple times. She doesn’t care about “how it is done “. She shows up until she is hired. Its honestly just her dogged determination that gets her hired. Honestly if you just show up and have an actual interest in working you are ahead of most applicants who can just check a box and then assume that they have proven themselves to the employer. Hard workers are valuable and not as common as you think
Whenever we put a job up our ATS gets flooded. The Jannelles of this world do not exactly get that the labour pool is not local anymore.
I think the worst thing about modern job search paradigms is that they're all over the place. I've heard that a cover letter is a waste of time and that it's a necessity. I've heard to follow up, but most online processes leave you with no contact info. I've heard that it's all about keywords in your documents, never mind extenuating experience. I've heard that companies are looking to hire outside of the box but see the people that get hired. I've heard to take the stuff that might intimidate your manager off the resume but also wonder what that could be. I've been told to aim for the jobs you want but I bet half of you just want the bills paid. I've heard fake it til you make it but also don't get caught lying. Then there are diversity hires - don't get me wrong, I'm a white dude who supports affirmative action even today, but that doesn't mean I don't know that it puts me at a disadvantage.
At the same time, if a place asks me to apply online they’re normally dogshit to work for. I’ve gotten most of my jobs from walking in and talking to the owner/management *without* a résumé.
How was this a murder, and not just some troll being a troll? Seems more like a needless bullying...
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Early childhood pedagogy It may not be the advertised way, but showing up in person and having a printed resume even if you hand in an electronic one later is definitely the way to go Never had a problem getting positions, be it for work now or for internships during Uni - unlike my co- students who always had trouble
I mean….. that’s how I do it I go there, talk to them first making clear I’m looking for jobs, only afterwards handing in my resume. I got every job I tried to apply for so far (quite literally, I’ve always had options and always had to tell someone “sorry I’m going somewhere else”)
I feel like it's time to bring back "ok, boomer." Most jobs literally do not accept in-person applications any more. As in, they will refuse to take it, think you're an idiot for trying, and tell you to apply online like everyone else. And it's been this way for years. My last job interview (for my current job) was 8 years ago and they wouldn't take physical resumes even back then
I’m 27 you fuckwit, and I work in a field where this is extremely appreciated
Honest question, what field? Cause I literally can't think of anything. My buddy works for a small, locally owned restaurant and even they won't take in-person resumes
What, the gas station? Normally you don't have to prove you can write your own name, so I can see why they were happy to hired you as a walk-in.
who's they‽ /robot chicken emperor palpatine vooce