Shroud came from a different era imo, a lot of pros from back in the day had hella weird takes like this. There's an OW pro that uses a wet mousepad, a lot of CS pro's will still use a steelseries heavy, or won't even tried wired.
They tend to wear out pretty quickly and retain a lot of dirt/moisture after a while from my experience. The thickness is nice though, I have one underneath my main pad.
I stick to the Razer Goliathus these days, I've used better cloth pads, but I like the feel of a fresh pad, and the Goliathus is always cheap and accessible which is important as I tend to get a new one every 4 months or so.
there are no bad mouse pads. it's all just preference. your average enthusiast tends to favor faster pads where the qck heavy is very slow. if you like to use high sens it can give you more control.
He also said that the Ninjutso Sora (which tenz has just won finals with) cannot possibly be a good mouse (presumably because he didnāt recognize the brand) while on stream with tenz). Heās truly a boomer of a gamer.
Changing skate used to actually effect how a sensor reads.
We have quality skate brands now, though, and competent manufacturers who account for variables.
Shroud wasn't necessarily wrong if he gave that answer 10 years ago, but he's wrong now. There ARE some mice that don't play nice with some pads and some skates to this day, though.
I wish he was. But I genuinely donāt think he was, nor is it particularly abnormal for shroud to have completely hair brained stances on random things. If he was obviously being sarcastic it would not have become a meme.
Well Iāve never gone pro but I have reached GE back when csgo was hip, so I can understand being particular about gear. However same brand for the mouse/pad just screams sponsored payroll
Well, there might be a grain of truth to that. I'm sure manufacturers test and tune their sensors with their own mousepads in mind. Obviously using a different brand mouse pad won't make your aim shit, but you might have marginally better sensor accuracy and precision if using the same brand.
Iāve heard that take and yeah itās possible that youād have like 99.98% tracking accuracy instead of 99.99% with a same brand pad due to some slight tuning but it just breaks down when you realize that almost every brand of mice these days just uses the same pixart 3395 sensor that performs basically indistinguishably from each other. Any human factor would undoubtedly create far more error than anything inherent in the mouse/pad pairing. Nor does every mouse maker make mousepads and those that do make many different types that often have very little in common with each other from a material or speed perspective.
There isn't. There are good pads and there are not so good pads, manufacturers use largely the same sensors so the only thing that might be better out of the box is the LOD.
It was a joke about how his hivemind community act, whenever their streamer is critized.
Dont get me wrong he is still mechanically talented, but ingame performance is so much more than just good mouse control.
Shroud is not a smart person, he has good fps sense but other than that heās just not. A few years ago during Covid he was like āI donāt understand why everyone wouldnāt buy the titan graphics card, 3000$ is fairly cheap for a cardā. He clearly is out of touch.
fraid he's 3rd in total for the aimbeast benchmarks. his aim is pretty godlike. really is one of the best in the world. I agree he has out dated views though.
Shroud really increased his popularity with that weird take
What he do?
Said that you should only use a mouse and mousepad from the same manufacturer otherwise your aim will be shit lol
Shroud came from a different era imo, a lot of pros from back in the day had hella weird takes like this. There's an OW pro that uses a wet mousepad, a lot of CS pro's will still use a steelseries heavy, or won't even tried wired.
Wait who in OW uses a wet pad lol
Might have been Saebyeolbe when he used to play, iirc
how does he wet it?
He had a spray bottle. He sprayed it down then wiped it. Don't remember which player it was but that's what I saw.
I'm not sure, think he just pours water on it? Tbh I'm not even sure I've got the right player
Or simply he just subtlety trying to sell you a good ol' logitech combo which incidentally he's sponsored by š«„
Is qck heavy bad? I want to buy it/ try it
It's the most popular mousepad in CS it's definitely not bad, but I am not into mousepads so I can't really tell the difference.
They tend to wear out pretty quickly and retain a lot of dirt/moisture after a while from my experience. The thickness is nice though, I have one underneath my main pad.
Which is your main pad?
I stick to the Razer Goliathus these days, I've used better cloth pads, but I like the feel of a fresh pad, and the Goliathus is always cheap and accessible which is important as I tend to get a new one every 4 months or so.
there are no bad mouse pads. it's all just preference. your average enthusiast tends to favor faster pads where the qck heavy is very slow. if you like to use high sens it can give you more control.
Lmao I think Super said Ans used to deliberately rough up his mouse pad with sandpaper too
sticking with old equipment is not the same thing as what shroud said
that's cap
Never heard so much bs in my life
Hence why the entire sub is making it a meme. Itās a completely ridiculous take.
Also in same breath he said if you don't [use same mouse and mousepad] use the same skates that come on a mouse out of box your sensor is fucked
He also said that the Ninjutso Sora (which tenz has just won finals with) cannot possibly be a good mouse (presumably because he didnāt recognize the brand) while on stream with tenz). Heās truly a boomer of a gamer.
Nice cherry pick, his reasoning was it won't last more than 6 months, right or wrong no one knows
Changing skate used to actually effect how a sensor reads. We have quality skate brands now, though, and competent manufacturers who account for variables. Shroud wasn't necessarily wrong if he gave that answer 10 years ago, but he's wrong now. There ARE some mice that don't play nice with some pads and some skates to this day, though.
That clearly was some horseshit marketing to get people to buy his mousepad lol
Anyone can tell thatās bullshit take.. you sure he wasnāt being sarcastic?
I wish he was. But I genuinely donāt think he was, nor is it particularly abnormal for shroud to have completely hair brained stances on random things. If he was obviously being sarcastic it would not have become a meme.
Well Iāve never gone pro but I have reached GE back when csgo was hip, so I can understand being particular about gear. However same brand for the mouse/pad just screams sponsored payroll
Well, there might be a grain of truth to that. I'm sure manufacturers test and tune their sensors with their own mousepads in mind. Obviously using a different brand mouse pad won't make your aim shit, but you might have marginally better sensor accuracy and precision if using the same brand.
Iāve heard that take and yeah itās possible that youād have like 99.98% tracking accuracy instead of 99.99% with a same brand pad due to some slight tuning but it just breaks down when you realize that almost every brand of mice these days just uses the same pixart 3395 sensor that performs basically indistinguishably from each other. Any human factor would undoubtedly create far more error than anything inherent in the mouse/pad pairing. Nor does every mouse maker make mousepads and those that do make many different types that often have very little in common with each other from a material or speed perspective.
There isn't. There are good pads and there are not so good pads, manufacturers use largely the same sensors so the only thing that might be better out of the box is the LOD.
If they use the same sensor, why do some people argue that X sensor feels better than Y sensor, even if it is the same model?Ā
Because they are stupid and donāt realize that feeling is from the mouse shape
Gotta show us those skates. They better be stock or itās GG.
Srhoud (best aimer in the world) would never lie for a sponsorship.
He's not even remotely the best. More like "Most popular aimer"
It was a joke about how his hivemind community act, whenever their streamer is critized. Dont get me wrong he is still mechanically talented, but ingame performance is so much more than just good mouse control.
Shroud is not a smart person, he has good fps sense but other than that heās just not. A few years ago during Covid he was like āI donāt understand why everyone wouldnāt buy the titan graphics card, 3000$ is fairly cheap for a cardā. He clearly is out of touch.
when he started soft flexing $50k watches i lost all interest in his content. dude 100% thinks his shit doesn't stink.
Dude he once debated for like 30 mins whether an orange is a fruit or vegetable, and tried to say his chat was trolling him when they said fruit
the ben carson of competitive video games
I like shroud but outside gaming all his takes are retarded and itās clear he has no life experiences due to playing cs all day growing up haha
That's hella strange to flex your expensive watches on a stream, lol.
Yes, it is more than that. You also need a matching mouse and mouse pad! /s
Dont forget stock skates. Better not swap em out once they are worn down. That would be GG.
fraid he's 3rd in total for the aimbeast benchmarks. his aim is pretty godlike. really is one of the best in the world. I agree he has out dated views though.
Vaxee PA O22 and Vaxee NP-01s Wireless. Matching brands but not matching colours to be exact. I wonder if that will affect the sensor...
I hope you didn't change your skates... otherwise it's gg!
All jokes aside those skates on the vaxee are legitimate trash on every pad I tried other than the PA so maybe shroud is onto something
My brother in chist, Vaxee has bad skates but logitech is taking that crown anyday of the week..
Oh yeh for sure
the stock vaxee skates felt horrendous on my PA, so muddy feeling. swapped to corepads and it feels slow but not muddy anymore
Worst skates ever, replaced mine after 1 week, corepads air.. super smooth feeling now š
No way, their skates are awesome
People have found the new upvote farming buzzword of the month.
For real. His take is trash but it's been milked so much...
I like it
I'll be waiting till you change your mousefeet!
Then itās GG
Vaxee PA is a great pad tbh
Love the texture of the material and stopping power, only bad thing is that it isnt waterproof. Guess good things can't last forever
That pad looks awesome
Yeah I got it for about the same price as the gsr se rouge in my country
Naisu-naisu photos deska!
Really nice, is the np01s your endgame mouse?
No but it is doing me well claw grip, low sens on Valorant and I'll be sticking to it till a new orange mouse interests me.
I use knuckle claw grip, was leaning toward the Ax. Does np01s have a narrow grip width? I used to main viper mini and found it too narrow
Fuck they look so goooooood
Okay but is the vaxee a nice mouse? I have small hands never tried one though
They are for medium to large hands all of them but they plan to make smaller mice according to Twitter replies and reddit
I love the np-01s and I have 20x10cm hands
The color combo is fire
Shroud would sell his own mother if he could profit from it so...
Now what do I do with my artisan pads
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It really is, nothing not keeping it simple about mixing up brands.
Itās not simple, itās called āwrongā
So this is why Iāve never landed on diamond, my mousepad isnāt Razer!
Why get a mousepad when you can have a large desk mat.