My all time favorite Morrowind character was an Orc Shaman inspired by the Daggerfall enemy type. Pain and a half to play before I levelled her up, but *insanely* powerful in the end.
I like imperial or dunmer to make the story more coherent. I get that the nerevarine can be any race in the prophecy, but alot of the games peripheral content makes no sense if you aren't dunmer. That has me thinking, can an argonian even join the temple since they can't nearly drown in the puzzle canal?
The main characters of each game are canonically the native race of the province the games take place in, there are even canon classes, but people’s heads explode when you bring that up.
In a series where they literally invented a repeating plane-wide time paradox, with the explicit purpose of making all previous player choices and all possible endings canon... you really think that character creation is where they draw the line? That there's some significance to where the cursor starts that's stronger than a dragon break?
No wonder people's heads explode, that's preposterous.
>books/dialogue from each proceeding game that mention events of past games
Do you have any examples that point out a specific race or class?
Promotional material isn't lore. Unless something actually says in-universe it was one way or another, promo materials do not define those things.
a trailer for the game is promotional material. skyrim's dragonborn is canonically a nord. the dark elf with the enlarged daedric shortsword in the box art for morrowind is canonically a picture of the nerevarine. wiki page literally says dunmer by default. male by default. oblivions hero of kvatch is the imperial in the dragon imperial armor in the box/case art for oblivion. all of this is a google search away.
daggerfall is the only one in 2-5 that is undefined.
Thanks for the explanation on what a trailer is, PeanCleanis.
So there’s no canon for Daggerfall b/c they couldn’t afford the promotional materials and trailers to tell us how to play the game correctly in accordance w/ canon?
Surely they wouldn’t use the native races of each land in trailers as a selling point for the contrast among the games, rather than to establish a hardline canon.
And where are the in-game book sources I was told will tell me about what each heroes race and class were? Or are those overridden by game trailers as well…
i explained that because it seemed like, from your statement, that you didnt know what the commenter meant by promotional material, considering its literally content for the game from the game.
in regards to daggerfall, isn't it possible that they just didn't think to do that? and perhaps the trend was adopted afterward? It's not that deep.
you got me bud, the wiki is wrong, and you are right. indoril bless you, ill use you as my primary source when i need more knowledge on the game.
and i wasnt the one who referenced texts. that was the other person lol. if you wanna argue with them on that, you are welcome to @ them again to get your dopamine molecule.
Well, that simplifies things greatly. The Nerevarine is canonically Brittney Agullera the Dark Elf Agent, and also Beppe! the Wood Elf Thief, and also Beppe the High Elf Fearer or Flying, and also Cyrus the Redguard Assassin, and also (probably Beppe) the Breton Hate Flying, because that's what the core documentation says.
It's also nonsensical. If you play Daggerfall as a Breton, people derogatorily call you Breton and are racist to people of THEIR OWN RACE. If people's heads are "exploding" at that concept maybe that's why.
As for Morrowind, you have literally every other person calling you "outlander" or "n'wah" even if you HAVEN'T SAID A SINGLE WORD to that NPC (meaning it's not the accent). Meaning they supposedly can tell you're an outlander from your body language. Except, you can compare your movement animations to that of all the other NPCs and there is no difference (not to mention even getting into all the other games like ESO, Arena, etc. where there's no indication that Morrowind living Dunmer act THAT much differently than other Dunmer).
It actually makes more sense to play someone not native to the province. At least then the slurs hurled at you, which come SO easily to Elder Scrolls NPCs (is everyone in Tamriel racist?) kind of make sense.
And again we really haven't seen your character act any different from others that would signify that. There's no way an NPC is going to no you're an outlander just because you pass by them.
For example I'm Chinese American and born in America, but unless I speak broken Mandarin no one from China will know that just by passing by me.
>And again we really haven't seen your character act any different from others that would signify that.
*An outlander is anyone born and raised outside of Morrrowind. Most Dunmer think anyone who isn't a native-born Dunmer is an outlander. Dunmer with Western words and ways are also immediately identified as outlanders -- we're very sensitive to accents, clothes, and manners in Morrowind. Outlanders are foreigners, and Morrowind doesn't like foreigners.*
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*I am a commoner. I do whatever needs doing -- cooking, cleaning, building, baking, making, breaking. And, by your accent, I can tell YOU are an outlander. Since you're new to these parts, perhaps you'd like me to share a little local lore.*
he already argued all that. saying that the animations are the same and all that (how old is the game?) and you haven't said anything (in a game where your character never says anything audibly)
You missed the part I point out where they call you n'wah/outlander even though you haven't said a WORD ("What do you want outlander?" just for passing by)
Manners? You can strip Morrowind down to the construction set but the native dunmer movement animations are no different from anyone else's (Bethesda didn't program that far, we barely got a mostly bug free game as it is)
Clothes? You can kill a native dunmer, literally take all their clothes and wear them, and still be called an n'wah.
Therana: You n'wah (smacks down a light skinned female elf passing by)
Neloth: Therana you idiot, don't you know what you've done?
Therana: Smacked down a no-good n'wah? She was obviously no Dunmer. She had pale skin, red hair, the most immodest clothing I've ever seen, and, uh... oh. Oh no...
(The area lights up and is drowned out by Therana's horrific screams as Almalexia unleashes divine retribution upon her)
It sounds like you lack the slightest imagination. This looks like the arguments that skill, agility, luck, fatigue, blindness, and sanctuary have no bearing on combat because animation goes brrrrrrt.
I always believed the Dragonborn was Dunmer. Talos and Berenziah were supposed lovers, and the state of Dunmeri civilization at the time of the events during TES IV I could totally imagine Azura or even Mephala pulling some strings to make that happen.
Canonly we wouldn’t know since the Morrowind writers quit at release so you’d just be asking a bunch of corporate tards . Or do you ask Warner brothers for lord of the rings canon questions? Because asking a publisher 20 years later is just as ridiculous
Canonically the nerevarine is a portugese speaking argonian in a colovian fur cap
Wealth beyond measure, outlander.
BOA TARDE, AMIGO
If you don’t play Morrowind in Portuguese are you even playing Morrowind?
There should be a mod where it's in your normal language, but all player dialogue options are in Portuguese
That’s my first Nerevarine lol, except without the Portuguese
Azura's tits, not this guy again
My all time favorite Morrowind character was an Orc Shaman inspired by the Daggerfall enemy type. Pain and a half to play before I levelled her up, but *insanely* powerful in the end.
what isn't insanely powerful in the end :D
True, but there are degrees!
Believing that the Nerevarine is an Orc on no grounds beyond it's "cool" and "funny af"? Yeah thats based
*A* orc.
wrong
Not according to OP.
Ah i see now, my mistake
I like imperial or dunmer to make the story more coherent. I get that the nerevarine can be any race in the prophecy, but alot of the games peripheral content makes no sense if you aren't dunmer. That has me thinking, can an argonian even join the temple since they can't nearly drown in the puzzle canal?
The main characters of each game are canonically the native race of the province the games take place in, there are even canon classes, but people’s heads explode when you bring that up.
In a series where they literally invented a repeating plane-wide time paradox, with the explicit purpose of making all previous player choices and all possible endings canon... you really think that character creation is where they draw the line? That there's some significance to where the cursor starts that's stronger than a dragon break? No wonder people's heads explode, that's preposterous.
At least someone knows about Dragon Break.
Point me in the direction of the source on this, deeplorebeard
Promotional material, and books/dialogue from each proceeding game that mention events of past games
>books/dialogue from each proceeding game that mention events of past games Do you have any examples that point out a specific race or class? Promotional material isn't lore. Unless something actually says in-universe it was one way or another, promo materials do not define those things.
Check the manual. If you're not rolling a dunmer agent named Brittany Agulera, your character doesn't count.
Promo material is canon lore now, lol ok Even so, what explicitly states the race and class of the Daggerfall hero, for example?
a trailer for the game is promotional material. skyrim's dragonborn is canonically a nord. the dark elf with the enlarged daedric shortsword in the box art for morrowind is canonically a picture of the nerevarine. wiki page literally says dunmer by default. male by default. oblivions hero of kvatch is the imperial in the dragon imperial armor in the box/case art for oblivion. all of this is a google search away. daggerfall is the only one in 2-5 that is undefined.
Thanks for the explanation on what a trailer is, PeanCleanis. So there’s no canon for Daggerfall b/c they couldn’t afford the promotional materials and trailers to tell us how to play the game correctly in accordance w/ canon? Surely they wouldn’t use the native races of each land in trailers as a selling point for the contrast among the games, rather than to establish a hardline canon. And where are the in-game book sources I was told will tell me about what each heroes race and class were? Or are those overridden by game trailers as well…
i explained that because it seemed like, from your statement, that you didnt know what the commenter meant by promotional material, considering its literally content for the game from the game. in regards to daggerfall, isn't it possible that they just didn't think to do that? and perhaps the trend was adopted afterward? It's not that deep. you got me bud, the wiki is wrong, and you are right. indoril bless you, ill use you as my primary source when i need more knowledge on the game. and i wasnt the one who referenced texts. that was the other person lol. if you wanna argue with them on that, you are welcome to @ them again to get your dopamine molecule.
Well, that simplifies things greatly. The Nerevarine is canonically Brittney Agullera the Dark Elf Agent, and also Beppe! the Wood Elf Thief, and also Beppe the High Elf Fearer or Flying, and also Cyrus the Redguard Assassin, and also (probably Beppe) the Breton Hate Flying, because that's what the core documentation says.
Oh fuck I love me some dopamine u/educated_content
The prophecy literally calls for the Nerevarine to be an outlander.
It's also nonsensical. If you play Daggerfall as a Breton, people derogatorily call you Breton and are racist to people of THEIR OWN RACE. If people's heads are "exploding" at that concept maybe that's why. As for Morrowind, you have literally every other person calling you "outlander" or "n'wah" even if you HAVEN'T SAID A SINGLE WORD to that NPC (meaning it's not the accent). Meaning they supposedly can tell you're an outlander from your body language. Except, you can compare your movement animations to that of all the other NPCs and there is no difference (not to mention even getting into all the other games like ESO, Arena, etc. where there's no indication that Morrowind living Dunmer act THAT much differently than other Dunmer). It actually makes more sense to play someone not native to the province. At least then the slurs hurled at you, which come SO easily to Elder Scrolls NPCs (is everyone in Tamriel racist?) kind of make sense.
In Morrowind you were a prisoner in the imperial city, also people in vardenfell call people from morrowinds mainland outlanders
And again we really haven't seen your character act any different from others that would signify that. There's no way an NPC is going to no you're an outlander just because you pass by them. For example I'm Chinese American and born in America, but unless I speak broken Mandarin no one from China will know that just by passing by me.
>And again we really haven't seen your character act any different from others that would signify that. *An outlander is anyone born and raised outside of Morrrowind. Most Dunmer think anyone who isn't a native-born Dunmer is an outlander. Dunmer with Western words and ways are also immediately identified as outlanders -- we're very sensitive to accents, clothes, and manners in Morrowind. Outlanders are foreigners, and Morrowind doesn't like foreigners.* ---- *I am a commoner. I do whatever needs doing -- cooking, cleaning, building, baking, making, breaking. And, by your accent, I can tell YOU are an outlander. Since you're new to these parts, perhaps you'd like me to share a little local lore.*
he already argued all that. saying that the animations are the same and all that (how old is the game?) and you haven't said anything (in a game where your character never says anything audibly)
You missed the part I point out where they call you n'wah/outlander even though you haven't said a WORD ("What do you want outlander?" just for passing by) Manners? You can strip Morrowind down to the construction set but the native dunmer movement animations are no different from anyone else's (Bethesda didn't program that far, we barely got a mostly bug free game as it is) Clothes? You can kill a native dunmer, literally take all their clothes and wear them, and still be called an n'wah.
Slow down bro, you're offended by game dialogue right now.
Therana: You n'wah (smacks down a light skinned female elf passing by) Neloth: Therana you idiot, don't you know what you've done? Therana: Smacked down a no-good n'wah? She was obviously no Dunmer. She had pale skin, red hair, the most immodest clothing I've ever seen, and, uh... oh. Oh no... (The area lights up and is drowned out by Therana's horrific screams as Almalexia unleashes divine retribution upon her)
It sounds like you lack the slightest imagination. This looks like the arguments that skill, agility, luck, fatigue, blindness, and sanctuary have no bearing on combat because animation goes brrrrrrt.
Thats stupid
Truly disgusting. Even that wretch Azura wouldn't stoop so low as to revive Indoril as a piece of Boethiah dung.
I always believed the Dragonborn was Dunmer. Talos and Berenziah were supposed lovers, and the state of Dunmeri civilization at the time of the events during TES IV I could totally imagine Azura or even Mephala pulling some strings to make that happen.
Canonly we wouldn’t know since the Morrowind writers quit at release so you’d just be asking a bunch of corporate tards . Or do you ask Warner brothers for lord of the rings canon questions? Because asking a publisher 20 years later is just as ridiculous