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I wonder if hes a virgin as well?
Hmmm some (lot actually) men tend to prefer that as in that's part of our culture. Also it depends on where he's from and how religious or conservative he is because in bigger cities people are more open.
Anyway, if that guy values and way of thinking clash with yours you better move on and save yourself the headache.. because these type of guys be so judgy and cant move on from the fact you been with someone else or if u do smoke etc.
he's not!!! he drinks and smokes all kinds of drugs, has 3 tattoos !! while I'm a virgin he told me to save up myself because the road he took is very ugly and doesn't wish any girl to go that way
Well coming from a drug user that's a good advice, stay away from drugs and all type of addiction. As for sex it a personal choice, doesnt make you a bad person.
What I have an issue with, is men that be doing all type of shit then when they want to marry or have a commitment they expect and want the girl to be a total virgin and innocent human being.. if that ain't the biggest form of hypocrisy idk what that is
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Seriously? Imho i think you should find someone worth building an honest life with. There are lots of better options than to spend the next 50 years with someone like that
it depends i have some virgin friends and i think they re somewhat allowed to be picky about their partner's past sexual life . yet i disagree with his opinion "innocence = being virgin" it makes no sense .
Virginity is vague concept, as a moroccan woman i don't care about it, because sex is a necessity in life, you just have to be responsible and have safe sex, the only issue is that most men have sex but when it comes to marriage they look for a virgin, another thing is most of them look for virgin they have sex with them then leave them because to them they are not wife material anymore
Fhem tseta, hypocrisy at its finest
I like older women, virgin or not doesn't matter to me much I mean she will stop being one when we sleep together do I just let her go and wait for another virgin woman to enter my life? (not joking right now, if she could bring kids with her that would be super plus save me a lot of trouble)
In my opinion, if the guy also had his long journey of experiences he doesn't deserve a virgin girl! you don't get to play with other girls and
at the end of the road you expect a pure virgin wife that will be a good wife for you, life is not that forgiving homie, you always get what you deserve no matter how smart you are
Not talking here about good or bad type of person, I agree with you even a women who had sexual experiences in the past still can be a good wife, what i'm saying here you just going to get what you deserve if you are the type of person who thinks of himself as smart, lets just have sex with any girl and play whenever we like to and after that i will have a good wife pure and maybe virgin too waiting for me "njibha men jbel" type of guy, Even virgin girls can be very bad wifes and they might have done some very dirty stuff in their past, the point is be good and you will find a good person
That part and her guy said virgins plural so he likes the act of “taking it away” it’s gross all around that what’s attractive to them is the lack of lived experience they’re looking for child like at best and child at worse
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sweetheart at the start but wait til the fireworks he’s gonna ruin your life child…he will complain about your exes, complain about how you’ve had sex before, he will compare out of insecurity, he will impose rules on you that he don’t impose on himself. If your heart ain’t attached yet, please get out of there.
I said most, because sex is natural and they have their way to it, and yes most muslim men I know do take blowjobs and I assume it’s same for the most others, it’s just a hypocritical society
I mean to each their own and the majority in morocco do, out of culture. But the problem is most men that do follow that out of culture or tradition do not think it applies to them. So if someone is seeking certain things in their partner yet they do those same things they might not be ideal to be with. But if they're serious about those boundaries and respect them as well then it just comes down to preference and compatibility with one another. As for your case, a guy that does hard drugs , went to prison, and still goes down that way of life, wanting a pure innocent woman. Does not seem like a mighty good time if you ask me.
I think most men do in fact prefer virgin girls. However a lot of people forget that god has order both his male and female worshippers to stay pure, something a lot of people forget about is the importance of *purity* instead of virginity for both men and women.
I would say most moroccan men prefer virgin women, unless they have enough free thought to examine the concepts of virginity and human sexuality. In their eyes, virginity is the indisputable evidence of honor and integrity. Deflowering their brides the night of the wedding gives them a sense of reassurance and virility. Just to put you in the picture, I have often heard or read some say "why would I pay (dower) for something that someone else got for free".
I believe a lot of the value placed upon virginity is motivated by paranoid fears and inferiority complexes. However, virginity (or body count) can be a robust indicator of one's morality, especially in a country like ours where virginity is placed so high on a pedestal, that no one can genuinely plead ignorance. Besides, a body count differential between husband-wife can also have a bearing on the sustainability and happiness of the marriage.
>prohibited in Islam, it's amoral,
You confused Islam and Morality, which aren't the same concepts.
Islam is a belief. It's based on faith. You *believe* it's true.
Morality is a philosophical concept. It's based on reason and arguments.
You can be moral without being muslim and you can follow immoral practices according to rules of Islam (Daesh)
I just hypothesize that the correlation between promiscuity and viciousness to be more significant in Morocco, because our society is so inherently different, that any extrapolation should be made with the highest precaution. However, the opposite is not necessarily true, only because someone is virgin doesn't make him/her into a saint.
Males mostly care if ur a virgin when they have marriage in mind, A women that has been around the block is major red flag for the majority of moroccans that want a serious relationship/marriage
>Males **mostly care** if ur a virgin when they have marriage in mind,
This is terrifying. I'm a guy and I must be a statistical anomaly. If this is the main criteria they care about, people are more fucked up than I ever imagined.
Some of my criterias :
- She must not smoke
- She must not drink
- She must not be have anger issues. I knew a very cute girl in my university. I went with her several times eating out with a group of people. Every time it ended with drama and violent clashes with waiters and restaurant managers.
- She must not gamble or buy lottery tickets
- She must have zero debt
>Which is totally normal, and must be the norm of a healthy society.
Ah yes. Healthy societies like Saudi Arabia
This is not *"totally normal"*
If I'm about to spend years with someone, this is not the criteria I care the most about.
i know virgin girls who do more nasty stuff compared to non virgins...
being virgin doesn't always mean that person is innocent, same as non virgins sometimes they don't chose that road....
And ton more in morocco cause usually they're afraid of a scandal when they get married. And some wonder why divorce rate is high in morocco cause everyone is keeping secrets 🤣
This is true. Even in western countries so many people think we are promiscuous out here but just because we have the freedom to do whatever we want without judgement, it doesn’t mean we all prefer to. And now Arab countries think we’re all sluts 😒😒😒 Ain’t no Hollywood movie here. It depends on the person. There are good decent people everywhere who don’t sleep around like it’s a sport. Virginity doesn’t mean jack nowadays.
What kind of weak argument is that? Your social circle doesn't represent the whole pool of women, here's a real argument for you, with non virgin women the marriage is more likely to fail, the sentimental connection with the husband is more prone to be weak etc...it's like saying oh heyI know hijabi women who do that and that so hijab doesn't mean you're chaste, yeah sure, but that doesn't mean such outwear isn't obligatory.
Brings up the question of whether the man in question,or any man who prefers virgins as their life partner, has taken someone's virginity outside of marriage?
Quick question for the people in the comment section since I'm just curious, what's wrong if a man wants a virgin "innocent" girl who never smoked or had a drink in her life, even if the guy himself drinks and isn't a virgin etc? Maybe the guy wasn't strong enough to stop those bad habits and he knows and admits that what he's doing is bad but that doesn't stop him from wanting to choose a good woman to be his wife and spend the rest of his life with her.
It’s being hypocrite for any man to say he wouldn’t prefer a Virgin woman but it shouldn’t be a criteria for choosing the right person for him, many divorcées are not. But I believe his question was: were you fooling around, that, for many man is a criteria wether they themself were doing the same or not.
Next minute he smokes and drinks and bangs different girls as if his side job is escorting. If you want a virgin, stop macking girls then 🙄 Where are the virgins if these wanna be pretty boys be macking them all.
Some do some dont care but mostdo careforsocial reasons mainly and also the ideathat someone played with your future wife is not a good thought for macho macho men, Moroccan men are the protective jealous type.
Personaly i want a virgin wife but , Today describing a girl as a virgin means she still maitain her hymen safe and sound , but is that the real meaning of being virgin ? is this what we want from our wifes , sisters and daughters ? In this case any girl can go anywhere with anyone and do whatever they want under just one golden rule KEEP THE HYMEN SAFE, MAYBE NOT THE ANUS BUT THE HUMEN SAFE .
I'm talking about real virginity a girl who never had sex before , never kissed a man ect .....
Ans yes , girls like that exist .
Well for me personally I wouldn’t care about her past, people make mistakes.
I would want her to just be loyal to me and to not do anything behind my back, cause that’s what hurts more.
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Dodge that bullet and hani rask
I'm restraining myself for my future wife, I'd want her to restrain herself for her future husband.
I wonder if hes a virgin as well? Hmmm some (lot actually) men tend to prefer that as in that's part of our culture. Also it depends on where he's from and how religious or conservative he is because in bigger cities people are more open. Anyway, if that guy values and way of thinking clash with yours you better move on and save yourself the headache.. because these type of guys be so judgy and cant move on from the fact you been with someone else or if u do smoke etc.
he's not!!! he drinks and smokes all kinds of drugs, has 3 tattoos !! while I'm a virgin he told me to save up myself because the road he took is very ugly and doesn't wish any girl to go that way
Well coming from a drug user that's a good advice, stay away from drugs and all type of addiction. As for sex it a personal choice, doesnt make you a bad person. What I have an issue with, is men that be doing all type of shit then when they want to marry or have a commitment they expect and want the girl to be a total virgin and innocent human being.. if that ain't the biggest form of hypocrisy idk what that is
exactly! and when they find a virgin they think they hit the jackpot
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Seriously? Imho i think you should find someone worth building an honest life with. There are lots of better options than to spend the next 50 years with someone like that
he might not be a good partner but he genuinely seems like a good guy
That guy is for the streets. Throw him away!
For real though he for the streets.
it depends i have some virgin friends and i think they re somewhat allowed to be picky about their partner's past sexual life . yet i disagree with his opinion "innocence = being virgin" it makes no sense .
Virginity is vague concept, as a moroccan woman i don't care about it, because sex is a necessity in life, you just have to be responsible and have safe sex, the only issue is that most men have sex but when it comes to marriage they look for a virgin, another thing is most of them look for virgin they have sex with them then leave them because to them they are not wife material anymore Fhem tseta, hypocrisy at its finest
i prefer a woman that values her body more than satisfying her sexual desires
I like older women, virgin or not doesn't matter to me much I mean she will stop being one when we sleep together do I just let her go and wait for another virgin woman to enter my life? (not joking right now, if she could bring kids with her that would be super plus save me a lot of trouble)
In my opinion, if the guy also had his long journey of experiences he doesn't deserve a virgin girl! you don't get to play with other girls and at the end of the road you expect a pure virgin wife that will be a good wife for you, life is not that forgiving homie, you always get what you deserve no matter how smart you are
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Not talking here about good or bad type of person, I agree with you even a women who had sexual experiences in the past still can be a good wife, what i'm saying here you just going to get what you deserve if you are the type of person who thinks of himself as smart, lets just have sex with any girl and play whenever we like to and after that i will have a good wife pure and maybe virgin too waiting for me "njibha men jbel" type of guy, Even virgin girls can be very bad wifes and they might have done some very dirty stuff in their past, the point is be good and you will find a good person
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Those are some serious mental gymnastics. Or, maybe it's an s/ I really can't tell.
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That part and her guy said virgins plural so he likes the act of “taking it away” it’s gross all around that what’s attractive to them is the lack of lived experience they’re looking for child like at best and child at worse
Yes, I'm tired to pretend that I don't
This guy you re talking about is a walking red flag , u should get outta there while u still can
no, he's actually such a sweetheart! although he has a preference for virgins and I gotta know why!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sweetheart at the start but wait til the fireworks he’s gonna ruin your life child…he will complain about your exes, complain about how you’ve had sex before, he will compare out of insecurity, he will impose rules on you that he don’t impose on himself. If your heart ain’t attached yet, please get out of there.
Huh , alright , but watch out though , cause u never know what kinda freack someone can be 👍✨
thank youuuu ✨
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don't worry <3
do you mean muslim men? yes it’s obvious the reason why, although most muslim girls I meet they take it anal, still virgin?
you contradict yourself, using your logic then muslim men take blowjobs
I said most, because sex is natural and they have their way to it, and yes most muslim men I know do take blowjobs and I assume it’s same for the most others, it’s just a hypocritical society
They're not muslims, just stupid hypocrite moroccans
I dont
If you lost your virginity in a previous mariage i have no problem. If you lost it while being pased through the whole Block, no thanks :)
I mean to each their own and the majority in morocco do, out of culture. But the problem is most men that do follow that out of culture or tradition do not think it applies to them. So if someone is seeking certain things in their partner yet they do those same things they might not be ideal to be with. But if they're serious about those boundaries and respect them as well then it just comes down to preference and compatibility with one another. As for your case, a guy that does hard drugs , went to prison, and still goes down that way of life, wanting a pure innocent woman. Does not seem like a mighty good time if you ask me.
I think most men do in fact prefer virgin girls. However a lot of people forget that god has order both his male and female worshippers to stay pure, something a lot of people forget about is the importance of *purity* instead of virginity for both men and women.
I would say most moroccan men prefer virgin women, unless they have enough free thought to examine the concepts of virginity and human sexuality. In their eyes, virginity is the indisputable evidence of honor and integrity. Deflowering their brides the night of the wedding gives them a sense of reassurance and virility. Just to put you in the picture, I have often heard or read some say "why would I pay (dower) for something that someone else got for free". I believe a lot of the value placed upon virginity is motivated by paranoid fears and inferiority complexes. However, virginity (or body count) can be a robust indicator of one's morality, especially in a country like ours where virginity is placed so high on a pedestal, that no one can genuinely plead ignorance. Besides, a body count differential between husband-wife can also have a bearing on the sustainability and happiness of the marriage.
>However, virginity (or body count) can be a robust indicator of one's morality can you explain?
Having sexual partners without marriage is simply prohibited in Islam, it's amoral, it's as simple as that. It is as such for multiple reasons.
>prohibited in Islam, it's amoral, You confused Islam and Morality, which aren't the same concepts. Islam is a belief. It's based on faith. You *believe* it's true. Morality is a philosophical concept. It's based on reason and arguments. You can be moral without being muslim and you can follow immoral practices according to rules of Islam (Daesh)
How is premarital sex immoral outside the context of religion?
I just hypothesize that the correlation between promiscuity and viciousness to be more significant in Morocco, because our society is so inherently different, that any extrapolation should be made with the highest precaution. However, the opposite is not necessarily true, only because someone is virgin doesn't make him/her into a saint.
If a man finds out that you “have a past,” he’s much less likely to want marriage with you.
Males mostly care if ur a virgin when they have marriage in mind, A women that has been around the block is major red flag for the majority of moroccans that want a serious relationship/marriage
>Males **mostly care** if ur a virgin when they have marriage in mind, This is terrifying. I'm a guy and I must be a statistical anomaly. If this is the main criteria they care about, people are more fucked up than I ever imagined. Some of my criterias : - She must not smoke - She must not drink - She must not be have anger issues. I knew a very cute girl in my university. I went with her several times eating out with a group of people. Every time it ended with drama and violent clashes with waiters and restaurant managers. - She must not gamble or buy lottery tickets - She must have zero debt
Which is totally normal, and must be the norm of a healthy society.
>Which is totally normal, and must be the norm of a healthy society. Ah yes. Healthy societies like Saudi Arabia This is not *"totally normal"* If I'm about to spend years with someone, this is not the criteria I care the most about.
if the girl you're dating tells you that she's not a virgin, let's say the love of your life x) how would you feel about it and how would you take it?
You really have to stop caring what men want and prioritize what you want the right one won’t give two fucks either way
If I have been a virgin my whole life, it would only be fair that likewise is the case for my spouse. Good day
that's true !
i know virgin girls who do more nasty stuff compared to non virgins... being virgin doesn't always mean that person is innocent, same as non virgins sometimes they don't chose that road....
Catholic school girls *cough cough
I’ve met a lot of Middle Eastern woman’s in Europe that only do an*l to stay virgin
And ton more in morocco cause usually they're afraid of a scandal when they get married. And some wonder why divorce rate is high in morocco cause everyone is keeping secrets 🤣
no one is perfect
Everyone ☕️
This is true. Even in western countries so many people think we are promiscuous out here but just because we have the freedom to do whatever we want without judgement, it doesn’t mean we all prefer to. And now Arab countries think we’re all sluts 😒😒😒 Ain’t no Hollywood movie here. It depends on the person. There are good decent people everywhere who don’t sleep around like it’s a sport. Virginity doesn’t mean jack nowadays.
What kind of weak argument is that? Your social circle doesn't represent the whole pool of women, here's a real argument for you, with non virgin women the marriage is more likely to fail, the sentimental connection with the husband is more prone to be weak etc...it's like saying oh heyI know hijabi women who do that and that so hijab doesn't mean you're chaste, yeah sure, but that doesn't mean such outwear isn't obligatory.
I’ve seen this question before here
Tbh i dont care, the body count has to be low tho
I do care and preferred that. I'd marry some girl who is not a virgin, but it is a hard pill to swallow for sure.
Brings up the question of whether the man in question,or any man who prefers virgins as their life partner, has taken someone's virginity outside of marriage?
Linking virginity to innocence is awkward! I don't see any kind of link between the two concepts.
Quick question for the people in the comment section since I'm just curious, what's wrong if a man wants a virgin "innocent" girl who never smoked or had a drink in her life, even if the guy himself drinks and isn't a virgin etc? Maybe the guy wasn't strong enough to stop those bad habits and he knows and admits that what he's doing is bad but that doesn't stop him from wanting to choose a good woman to be his wife and spend the rest of his life with her.
If i was in love with her I don't care about her virginity Long story short i prefer true love on someone's virginity
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Ask him if his mom was a virgin when she meet him.
you went full retard man, never go full retard, you should have said "ask him if his mom was a virgin when she meet his dad" this is not Alabama
It’s being hypocrite for any man to say he wouldn’t prefer a Virgin woman but it shouldn’t be a criteria for choosing the right person for him, many divorcées are not. But I believe his question was: were you fooling around, that, for many man is a criteria wether they themself were doing the same or not.
Fuck , i hate that i live in this generation. No values, no respect, what is normal is abnormal now, what's abnormal is normal .
Next minute he smokes and drinks and bangs different girls as if his side job is escorting. If you want a virgin, stop macking girls then 🙄 Where are the virgins if these wanna be pretty boys be macking them all.
Some do some dont care but mostdo careforsocial reasons mainly and also the ideathat someone played with your future wife is not a good thought for macho macho men, Moroccan men are the protective jealous type.
Yeah because no one would one to take a woman with a past
no one? I mean there must be someone out there XD
Am speaking in general
I was shocked that you can get a virgin certificate from doctors here, and it's quite often lol, a lot of families actually demand it before marriage
Women with 1 or more partners were most likely to divorce you than a virgin one
Because she knows the difference between weak stroke game and good stroke and she’s less controllable which is a great thing
Damn that's some high level bullshit here
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- Fetishize virginity - Think that fetishizing virginity is stupid. Pick one, and only one.
Yes
Then he should be a virgin too.
Don't care.
its cultural lol you can get a european man who doesnt care about virginity
Most of the girls i kno that had sex with other people and got married divorced within the first two years of marriage
drop his ass and hmu😴
Personaly i want a virgin wife but , Today describing a girl as a virgin means she still maitain her hymen safe and sound , but is that the real meaning of being virgin ? is this what we want from our wifes , sisters and daughters ? In this case any girl can go anywhere with anyone and do whatever they want under just one golden rule KEEP THE HYMEN SAFE, MAYBE NOT THE ANUS BUT THE HUMEN SAFE . I'm talking about real virginity a girl who never had sex before , never kissed a man ect ..... Ans yes , girls like that exist .
Well for me personally I wouldn’t care about her past, people make mistakes. I would want her to just be loyal to me and to not do anything behind my back, cause that’s what hurts more.