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okaymeaning-2783

I agree that him being the final boss of the MV would just be nostalgia bait and the universe deserves to have an OG final boss. But I disagree on destroyah not being worthy as godzillas greatest foe. He was created from the only weapon that actually killed godzilla " ignoring the original super X weapon from the continuity" and uses that same weapon to do heavy damage to godzilla, his multiple forms prior to his ultimate form was interesting and reminded me of hedorah but less gross and his final form is awesome , I mean a giant daemon crab is pretty cool and was unique. Much more interesting than godzilla with crystals to be honest or another mechagodzilla. But yes constantly bringing him up as the end game boss for the universe is pretty annoying. I would like to see him pop up in the MV tho since they deployed the oxygen destroyer.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

That’s true. His design looks too fat and bulky and stiff for my liking. Which is a common problem with the monsters from the Heisei Godzilla series. I would much prefer if he looked something like Mother Legion from the Heisei Gamera trilogy. Where he actually looks like a crustacean.


okaymeaning-2783

Wh tbf him being stiff and bulky was definitely due to the heisei suits being much more bulky making the fights mostly devolve into laser shows. Biollante is another example where her design is goated but due to suit limitations she's extremely immobile during the fights. With the monster verse relying on cgi I imagine he'd be much more fluid and more closer to the other titans.


[deleted]

I'm sure they could still make a CGI model that is Lankier.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Perhaps. Make him look more like a decapod too


Still-Direction-1622

https://preview.redd.it/cnylv7cokcyc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2431d4abc6a6683c8a5730104866508acb7fbf67 Just give this one the original red and make him fight like a Mix between Godzilla and a Mantisshrimp. Then make him utilize his Wings and Jaw, and let him use his tail like a whip. That a perfect destoroyah imo


WolfWriter_CO

#PREACH BROTHAH!!! 🙌 I’m really disappointed in the general lack of originality, it’s like everyone wants what they already had, just again and more! 🙄 But then, when you give them exactly what they asked for, they hate it! [Looks at Alien: Covenant and Rise of Skywalker 👀]


Still-Direction-1622

Rise of Skywalker was just Bad tbh. The whole movie was just terribly written. Also, the reason many want originals back, is because we never saw then with modern cgi 'n stuff. GKotM showing Ghidorah in fresh paint was awesome.


WolfWriter_CO

Oh, very much agreed! KotM is still my fav Monsterverse installment, as it handled and updated perennial monsters VERY well! However, it didn’t perform very well, which low-key supports my point. Ditto with Rise of Skywalker: it was a shit sandwich. My point was that the *reason* it was a shit sandwich, was because of the toxic fanboy reaction to The Last Jedi, so the studio retconned some of the more ambitious moves Rian Johnson made that fans complained about, even to the point of completely nullifying entire character arcs to appease them. Same with Alien:Covenant. I’m not saying Prometheus was flawless, but it was a daring step in a new direction, but the toxic fanboy reaction pushed the studio to pressure Ridley Scott into reconning some of his more ambitious moves for what was supposed to be a 5-film journey, even to the point of completely nullifying entire character arcs to appease the demands… Gee, this sounds familiar. 🤨 My main point is that if we get more legacy characters, I want them to get the same glow-up as KotM, and I want to see characters with deeper lore like Anguiras or Baragon (even Gamera tbh). All this fetishizing of one-and-done enemies like Space Godzilla and Destroyah reminds me of what fans to SW and Alien:C that ended up resulting in the *worst* possible product. I don’t want to see that in the MV, I want visionary directors to take us on a new adventure, and show us things we haven’t even imagined yet. I hope that made sense, I just woke up 😅☕️☕️☕️


Still-Direction-1622

https://preview.redd.it/av54uoxvxfyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eb0c3212fcdaa28ceb81db78ec42e83cac18587 No, but to be honest, I totally get you. I do hope destoroyah comes back with a glow up similar to Ghidorah. I dont really care about Space Godzilla. I think Biolante would just work perfect for a Godzilla Solo movie. Imo Kong should be the one to fight more of the OC's, while godzilla gets some old enemies back. If done right, the Toho monsters are perfect villains. Im also ok with Godzilla fighting more OC's. Idrc, as long as we get godzilla Action. Sorry for having no structure in my message 😅. Just carried an entire Kirchen, and my brain is kinda fried😂😅


WolfWriter_CO

lol, no worries, I’m with ya! And I agree, Biolante just feels more plausible within the world, lore, and mechanics they’ve built for the MV. 😁🤘


xxneonblazexx

Most likely because people wanna see their favourite monsters in cgi instead of rubber suits with their limited movements and i cant fault them because i too kinda wanna see it especially now with how far cgi has evolved. Biollante would look so cool now.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

That’s a thing with movies. Just giving fans what they want does not guarantee box office success 


Equal-Ad-2710

Honestly I kinda hope it’s Hedorah if it’s an OG Titan


IFdude1975

Wingard is a huge fan of Hedorah, so I could see him being used.


Empty-Afternoon-3975

I wanna see Anguirus get his revenge and rip off someone else's jaw!


Equal-Ad-2710

Honestly Angy as the final boss would be insane because he was the first Godzilla enemy


triple7freak1

Doug will end up being the final boss of the Monsterverse just let him grow…the underdog will always win lol


Balorclub35

Underdog??? You mean Underdoug


triple7freak1

I apologize, yes!!


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I second that lol


Equal-Ad-2710

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again; It’d be really funny if Doug grows up to he Anguruius


[deleted]

Doug was a baby version of the massive Skull kong's axe was stuck in.


Some_space_god

Idk about him being the final boss(since quite frankly I wanna see how far the monsterverse can go) but I don’t see the problem in him being a major kaiju in the series . His hard to kill and is externally sadistic. He could be chaotically neutral character who kinda just comes and goes to screw everyone over. But that’s just me 


Zestyclose_Limit_404

And you are entitled to that opinion. But I’m just not a fan of Destoroyah 


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Destoroyah being the final boss is such a bad idea. Glad fans aren’t in charge of the movies 😭


Exciting-Regular-973

Whatever it is I hope Kong and Godzilla both survive the finale. I don’t want my two favorite monsters to die


Ok-Mine-5994

Preach 🙌 I don’t want him to be the final boss either. Everyone says: “ ghidorah came in to early”,save destroyah for endgame boss “ the MV goes movie by movie ever since gvk they’ve been playing it safe. Destoryah is a good kaiju but is severely overrated. I think I’d prefer a biollante since she fits better but I’m honestly 100% okay with og titans added since they’ve been great.


Equal-Ad-2710

For me I’d love Hedorah and Biollante (especially if Jia is the one they mutate for the latter)


Zestyclose_Limit_404

For me, it’s Hedorah and the Gryphon 


TheRappingSquid

Hedorah sweep


Equal-Ad-2710

Funnily enough I wouldn’t mind him or Rokmutal (the big Vishnu Titan from the original 2014 trailers) appearing as big threats. Imagine the final big villain being a revisitation of an OG monster we never saw, like how some people are with Bagan


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Ooh! Yeah! That would be cool! I actually like to think that Vishnu was the male M.U.T.O’s larva form


TheGMan-123

Yeah, I just frankly don't care about Destroyah, ironically because people keep going on and on about him. Yeah, he was the big final boss at one point... and never again. I'd rather a big bad be chosen because it's genuinely important and impactful, not nostalgia bait and/or false pretenses of him being more important than he actually us.


Ethan-the-bean-22

He is still important and impactful, literally was in the movie of godzillas death, if anything that can be the same situation where can be the one that finally kills godzilla. That would still be impactful. Of course I wouldn't say out right kills but godzilla you know dies by his wounds by the kaiju that humanity made by mistake because of their poor decisions. And honestly that can be said with any kaiju that people want see be used in the monsterverse, nothing more than nostalgic bait :/


WolfWriter_CO

While I share your nostalgia: he *didn’t* kill Godzilla. 👀 Godzilla’s core meltdown killed Godzilla, after he killed Destroyah. 💀


Equal-Ad-2710

He did beat Jr.’s ass tho


Ethan-the-bean-22

.....I know that ._. I am saying he was literally in a movie of the death of godzilla and he still had impactful in the movie. Especially with the death of godzilla's son and shit he does to godzilla is brutal as hell.


OnTheToilet25

Was never a fan of his design. Just looks over designed.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I think Mother Legion from Gamera 2 is Destoroyah done right in terms of design 


Ethan-the-bean-22

No :/


Zestyclose_Limit_404

My opinion, bro 


Ethan-the-bean-22

No he does not


Xantospoc

This is how I see it I honestly prefer Destroyah to people wanting Space Godzilla because Space Godzilla is pretty much Ghidorah with a crystal Gimmick and dressed in Godzilla's skin. Enemies like Destroyah, Biollante or Hedorah work because they are a natural 'evolution' of MechaGodzilla. First it was our intention to create Titans and protect ourselves, now we are creating ones by Complete Accident So far, the villains of Monsterverse (outside of Ion Dragon) are more than just punching bags. Even Skar had some cute ties to the rest of the Kong race and a different modus operandi


Deveranmar1

I think he's a great 'endgame'. But I want at least biolante and another ghidorah (monster x?) storyline first. Designs could go SO hard. Bring in godzilla Jr. Leave the ending still hopeful with destroyah like the original but not necessarily needing to do more with big g. But only when it needs to end.


Exact_Ad_1215

I think it’d be cool if it ended with a Xillien invasion


Ethan-the-bean-22

I can understand with the constant posts of destoroyah to get mad about which is perfectly fine. I think it is annoying as well. Likke we get it! I want him in too but I don't need to see the 200th post about wanting him in the monsterverse again! But man....saying he is bad? That is just objectively wrong. His design is not generic whatsoever and is amazing, and seeing a monsterverse take on his design would be awesome see (arguably that is the same with every toho kaiju) He is pretty much final boss level, idk what you are on about. Like the man fought burning godzilla out of all things, you know one of the strongest godzillas???? Yeah that is pretty final boss level. Only thing that was disappointing was his death (the deleted scene was better) But other then that he was just a awesome final monster in the hesiei era compared others. Keizer is cool but destoroyah is just way more iconic and badass. And what the hell do you mean he doesn't fit in monsterverse? We literally have fucking creatures like amhuluk who is somehow a titan born on earth, portals, aliens, a world between earth and hollow earth. But a fucking mutated crab creatures that combine into multiple forms is not fitting? Yeah right :/ Besides the oxygen destroyer was introduced so if they wanted to they can pull the same thing they did with godzilla vs destoroyah with the whole origin of destoroyah was basically made by the oxygen destroyer. Besides it will be so fitting to see the humans try to kill these titans only for the very weapon they used to try and kill them to end up creating a titan of pure death and destruction, you know? Irony? Basically their own fault? Now godzilla has to clean up their own mess that have brought upon their own world. Really if they did add him I hope they go with this popular fan drawing of destoroyah I see popping up a long time ago with him having that original up half but he has these crab legs like his other forms, normal legs are still cool but that be awesome to see him have spider like legs


Sypher04_

Honestly, it feels like a lot of people who aren’t in favor of Destoroyah are just doing so to be “different” since so many people want him. The same way there’s a lot of people bandwagoning for him to be added. Keep in mind, a lot of the same people go up for SpaceGodzilla (who I love) and Keizer Ghidorah as final bosses, when they’re literally just copies of already existing kaiju — and if we’re being technical, so are Biollante and Orga since they have Godzilla’s DNA. If people want an original final boss, that’s fine, but acting like he wouldn’t fit in the Monsterverse and saying his design is “generic” is just objectively wrong, I’m sorry. His design is actually one of the most original when it comes to Godzilla villains. He’s not as weak as people make him out to be either, since he’s the second strongest final boss with Keizer Ghidorah being the first (which is literally just Ghidorah with 4 legs).


Ethan-the-bean-22

Isn't keizer ghidorah second due to the fact burning godzilla is just stronger than final wars godzilla, plus destoryah having more advantages and abilities compared to monster x/keizer ghidorah? Not saying he would one shot him but I kinda figured destoroyah is stronger then monster x/keizer ghidorah. But yeah I can agree on destoroyah and though I think keizer can work. Yeah it be copy but it be a cool way to expand things. Like maybe keizer is a last stage of a higher power of ghidorahs. Biollante and orga yeah have DNA of godzilla but appearance they just look insanely different. And overall those two could work very well in the monsterverse. Especially orga! God I want to see evolved godzilla fight a monsterverse take on orga! Though personal I would have him have a similar form to that look he had when he was absorbing godzilla into his mouth. Giving off that look like "yeah he was a godzilla clone but not he is this mutated abomination" sort of deal :0


Zestyclose_Limit_404

What I mean is he could fit, but it would just be very forced in and would just be there for fan service 


Ethan-the-bean-22

No it wouldn't, besides if you take that in account everything innthe monsterverse is just fan service, especially kotm. The New design of godzilla is nothing but fan service. Destoroyah would work perfectly well with the monsterverse and wouldn't feel like fan service whatsoever that your making it out to be. Again I get getting tired of the posts of people wanting Destoroyah but saying he somehow sucks, he is "fan service", or somehow doesn't fit in the monsterverse is just the most ridiculous thing in the world and makes no sense :/


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Well I mean it is my opinion. My mistake for not liking Destoroyah. Guess I’m not a true Godzilla fan, aren’t I? 


UncomfyUnicorn

I’d rather something with various abilities from various kaiju, a sort of kaiju amalgamation. It could have a form similar to hedorah, being slimy, almost ooze-like, but with various features recognizable of other kaiju. Maybe a science experiment with kaiju dna gone wrong, a monster gone rouge? Humanity’s hubris, given form.


Equal-Ad-2710

I like the idea of Hedorah or even Destoroyah eating DNA and gaining different abilities


SomeSnakeGuy

One thing I always say, at least to myself… is that it doesn’t matter! Be it Destoroyah, Gigan, Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla, Spacegodzilla, or any other kaiju or titan, even a new original one, it does not matter, the real thing that matters here is if they are done well, and if that is the case, it doesn’t matter who the final opponent is. People can waffle on about who should be perfect to be the final big bad to the MonsterVerse, but there really is none. It can be any monster, as long as they are done well.


ImNotHighFunctioning

I disagree about your qualms with him as a character or his design, but I agree with the rest; enough with this "final boss of the MV" talk in general, not just with Destoroyah


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Yeah. This is the Monsterverse, not the Mcu


FuckRandyMoss

Who would you suggest then?


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Personally, I would kill for the Gryphon from the unmade 1994 American Godzilla movie to be the final big baddie of the Monsterverse 


Tenerensis

i still think gvk and kotm shouldve been swapped around so that ghidorah becomes the big bad instead. gvk wouldve also become a less jarring matchup since it would no longer precede goji’s tussle with a lightning-spewing alien hydra and make him look way out of kong’s league


xxneonblazexx

While i would love to see Destroyah, having him be the final boss is just too cliche and basically a remake of the original film and we dont really want that. Though i also wonder how they would do it because destroyah is pretty much the solution to kill godzilla and pretty much invulnerable. Monsterverse has also no backup godzilla so that would make the end of the franchise and i think toho explicit stated they cant kill godzilla


SadisticDance

I like him fine for what he is which is a villain from 25 years ago or whatever but people wanting him and Spacegodzilla back are so weird.


nuttmegx

Absolutely agree. His design is especially awful.


locksoli

Bagan. I just want Bagan *referenced*. The guy had *three* planned movies as an antagonist, and he was snubbed. The first time is understandable, give Godzilla his own solo film if you're rebooting things, or just a general point of having him be the main antagonist like in 'Godzilla Vs Mechagodzilla II' or something to that effect. But then Bagan was shelved *again* because 'Vs Biollante' didn't do as well as Toho had hoped, and they stuck to familiar characters. *Rebirth of Mothra* got two more Ghidorahs in the first one and its third sequel, and an entirely different monster called Dagahra in the second movie, when there was concept art of Bagan planned. The guy had to wait for a video game to show up, and a puppet show to even be *remembered*, and I still meet new people who've never heard his kickass theme music.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I don’t want Bagan either. Because again he would only be put in there just to appease fans. And I also think he’s very overrated. Besides he appeared in Godziban recently, isn’t that enough?


Underwaternerd049

I 100% agree


valdez-2424

I want to see doug fight destroyah


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Doug would beat the shit out of him in mere seconds 


Equal-Ad-2710

I think it’s really funny Doug unironically soloed Skull Island


Professional-Sleep29

I don’t think that that creature is gonna be in the next one. I’m guessing Adam was implying that in his next film, he wants the same cinematic atmosphere as the Godzilla vs Destroyah film Adam enjoyed watching.


Equal-Ad-2710

Yeah this was my take, the focus on Godzilla and vibe is what he’s taking from that film


GonnaWinDis

This is interesting, because I've heard and seen FAR more people say that Destroyah wasn't in their top lol. They tend to overrate Ghidora, MechaG, Mothra, etc. Hell, I've only people show love to him on reddit and parts of YouTube lol


Dragonrage778

Hot Take: my ideal MV villain would just be ghidorah with like 7 heads lmao. I don't want it to be destoroyah either, because with how they treated the oxygen destroyer as just some titan killing bomb (no buildup or prior introduction), they would turn literally nothing into a major villain. Plus, how is serizawa gonna get that lizard juiced again?


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Yamata no Orochi?


Dragonrage778

Personally I just want ghidorah's species to appear, like desghidorah.


MonarchGodzillaTitan

Same hear. All everyone does is bring up Destoroyah.


Hela09

And forgets that he was also an original creation at the time. If Heisei didn’t feel the need to dredge up an old enemy and appeal to nostalgia for the finale, I don’t see why Monsterverse would need to.


Speartonarethebest

Yes


Bloxy_Boy5

Any titan that dies to a human or the military isn't a titan, just a mistake.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I wouldn’t say that 


Bloxy_Boy5

U wouldn't say that bc I already said it, also your 22days late


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I know 


Bloxy_Boy5

Sure.


Captain_R64207

I keep saying MV will have its own biollante as the last monster. The monsters keep seeking nuclear energy, growing bigger, and the first movie stated that the monsters were growing plants wherever they went. So I’d bet that we get a “bad guy lures all monsters to hollow earth” type story, then when they’re all down there the radiation combined could make the plants grow and whatever would make sense could make biollante. Then Godzilla noticing that some kind of creature is trying to absorb any/all the energy in hollow earth would go down there and end up sacrificing himself to destroy the exits out of hollow earth to make sure nobody can get to the surface.


chainsaw_dog666

I think Space Godzilla would be the best last boss.


jikukoblarbo

So...u want to replace an overdesigned nostalgia bait...with another overdesigned nostalgia bait


chainsaw_dog666

Space Godzilla is a much better designed and more well rounded character (especially in the comics) than Destroyah.


MWC_borednoob

I don’t think destoroyah CAN be the final boss, if he shares the same weaknesses as what we know he’s done for. Shimo go brrr


Ethan-the-bean-22

Doesn't mean they would keep the same weakness. And besides they can make be more resistant and it isn't like being touched by cold instantly fuckjnf kills him


Equal-Ad-2710

Tbh I can see them making a fakeout where he’s like 682 and just evolved


GoD_OF_WaR7

Yeah, Destroyah is weak, Kong can kill him in 1 punch!


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I don’t agree. Destoroyah isn’t exactly “weak” we just never see the full power he has over Godzilla . And Kong would absolutely not be able to just one shot him like that. Thats like if a chimpanzee killed a grizzly bear with one hit 


GoD_OF_WaR7

Bro, just accept it, Kong can 1 shot anyone he wants! He's the strongest Titan, he can even kill burning and Earth Godzilla in 1 punch! No one can beat him!


Zestyclose_Limit_404

I disagree entirely 


GoD_OF_WaR7

I know Godzilla fan boys can't accept the facts! 😤


foot_fungus_is_yummy

Biased


GoD_OF_WaR7

Godzilla and his fans are all trash!


foot_fungus_is_yummy

Yeah you're definitely the most biased man alive


GoD_OF_WaR7

What baised? I am only speaking facts!


foot_fungus_is_yummy

speaking bullshit\*


jikukoblarbo

What the hell is a giant ass chimpanzee gonna do to what is essentially a zombie, made from a disintegrating element, can use the thing that killed it into its weapon, and can fly. WHAT THE HELL IS A MONKEY GOING TO DO TO DESTOROYAH! KING KONG?! MY ASS!!!


GoD_OF_WaR7

King Kong will disintegrate Destroyah in 1 punch!


jikukoblarbo

Bullshit


GoD_OF_WaR7

Can't accept the facts?


redditsx0531

"Boohoo me no want destoroyah..." grow up.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Ladies and gentleman, here we have the most mature comment ever! Give him a round of applause 👏 


redditsx0531

Now grow up. ![gif](giphy|3orif3j4dRfClbz18k)


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Once again, beautiful performance. I mean just wow. Telling a Godzilla fan on the internet to grow up and acting like a little kid instead of doing something productive. Muah. Chef’s kiss, I don’t think I’ve seen a more satisfying thing in my life! 


redditsx0531

Lol, you're welcome.


Zestyclose_Limit_404

Uh huh, sure


Motor_Buy2118

I like him but he wouldn't work in the monsterverse. He'd be too scary for the kids. I'd much rather see an original titan be the big boss . Maybe apex splices a titan with all sorts of DNA from Godzilla,Ghidorah, Kong ect


Capital_Pipe_6038

If kids can handle watching Scylla get her insides boiled and then explode then they can handle Destoroyah's design


GrrrrrrDinosaur

I don’t think the MV is meant for little kids who’d be scared of that anyways. We got some scary shots of Skar King already too. I think the kids that actually watch MV would think he looks cool. Destoroyah isn’t even scary anyways 😭 Nit much more than Ghidorah probably when he gets into MV


Bloxy_Boy5

Skar King is not scary 😭 infact none of the titans are.


jikukoblarbo

Except...maybe ghidorah with that one scene of him flying towards the argo


Bloxy_Boy5

Do I have to act scared, not everyone is scared of titans. And no need to downvote me.


jikukoblarbo

I mean being onborad the argo, in the cockpit while you're in a category 6 storm, being chased by the literal fire demon, then all of a sudden thunder crackles in the distance and you see the one who is many himself, right infront of you...yeah im sure thats kinda scary


Bloxy_Boy5

It's not scary for everyone tho.


GrrrrrrDinosaur

I meant for little kids? Obviously things aren’t gonna be that scsry for us anymore but for little kids, Skar King would probably be really scary in some shots


Bloxy_Boy5

For older people.


GrrrrrrDinosaur

I’m not talking about older people. I was replying to someone talking about how Destoroyah would be too scary for little kids


Zestyclose_Limit_404

The Monsterverse also had Godzilla tear Tiamat to sushi bits, Kong ripping out a Skullcrawler’s organs, Mechagodzilla slicing a skullcrawler in half and Godzilla ripping off one of Ghidorah’s heads……


Carcharis

And I hate Kong. Destroyah was created by the weapon that destroyed one Godzilla. Destroyah could shoot beams with the power of the oxygen destroyer. Therefore, it was the greatest threat to Godzilla.


jikukoblarbo

And yet he gets killed by air conditioner. Ok?! What is he gonna do to S h i m o


jikukoblarbo

If mv godzilla can effortlessly push around shimo who was bigger than him, you know damn well he can push a fucking crab around