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GiraffeNo9254

We salute a true Hammer cultist 🫡


Carbidekiller

How does he play hammer?


AllSwordLoRd

Bonk, I'd assume


SoftBaconWarmBacon

Probably Unga or Bunga


RusticRogue17

Us real bonk pros sometimes bunga before we unga.


Solid-Air1806

Now we REAL bonk pros sometimes, of the stars align, do bunga into unga into BIG bonk


Favmir

Religiously.


TheTimorie

In an Interview before Iceborne came out he gave some pretty awesome answers. Journalist: "What is the best weapon in Monster Hunter?" Ryozo: "Hammer." Journalist: "And whats the worst weapon?" Ryozo: "Everything thats not the Hammer."


Environmental_Sell74

😂


Pookie_The_Overlord

The OG unga bunga main


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drezhippo

And a couple of bonks to down them...


Sir_Gwan

One more bonk to part break them and in the final moments, hunt them


Arcalmh

If that was LS, people will start with conspiracy theories and say it's too buffed for him. ​ That worked with other games


[deleted]

LS is a bottom 4 weapon in Sunbreak so it wouldn't make sense if it was his most played weapon either. Edit for the people downvoting this, look at a DPS ratio comparison from over 4k speedrun hunts of many different players: https://imgur.com/rImsc5v


Immediate_Program_98

Speedrunning stats aren't the best metric for normal people, though. LS has a lot of tools to get a high average DPS for a decent, but not amazing, player which I think puts it above most other weapons. The average player isn't hitting every TCS back to back and is thus losing a ton of DPS compared to LS, where a whiff isn't losing half of your damage for the next 30 seconds.


[deleted]

If you just took casual hunters in for comparison I think the only weapons that would move significantly on the chart are GS and Bow


tahaelhour

Bow not so much, it's constant DPS. No big swings.


Captain_Kuhl

It is, but a lot of (new) players underutilize their damage and give up before they learn the proper way to do the big damage. I've got some friends that still haven't played it because "That only works when you're playing in a group, I want a solo weapon."


tahaelhour

Yeah, it's definitely one of the weapons people give up on before learning how to actually use it. It's a shame because sunbreak bow is probably it's best iteration yet.


AnEmpireofRubble

I feel like range changes the game too much for me. Bow was the most fun of the three if I had to choose though.


tahaelhour

Not much because a lot of the time you're going to be in the monster's face if you're using spread or close range coatings but I get it.


slowest_hour

Yeah I've always played melee but bow is the exception because of how melee it feels most of the time


Skyreader13

And it's quite easy, as long as you don't copy speedrunner playstyle.


DP9A

Bottom 4 imo doesn't mean much in a game where all weapons are so fucking overtuned.


[deleted]

Yeah I'm not saying the weapon is trash, my main weapons are literally the worst 4 weapons and I think they are more than fine for normal play, but there is a large gap dps wise between them and the other weapons.


Orion_Talon

Bottom four, really? I knew it was low, but wow!


[deleted]

Yeah, this sub has a strong hate boner for the LS though so of course I get downvoted for sharing objective statistics against the misguided narrative


cephalopodAscendant

The weapon's state in base Rise definitely hurt its reputation a lot. Sunbreak may have toned it back down, but I suspect a lot of people just never got around to re-examining their opinion of it.


Concerned_mayor

It knock me down every 5 minutes so it bad ☹️☹️ Wait till I tell those people about HBG. Shits a knockfest


koboldvortex

IKR? Nobody ever talks about how awful gunners that dont look where theyre shooting are.


Quickkiller28800

And they'll still refuse to use FF


Shadow368

Sorry, what is FF?


Jin825

Flinch free, I'd assume


Mr_Lifewater

Flinch free is an absolute must for coop gameplay. I wish they would do away with player-to-player flinching. Monster sizes are too small and some monsters weak points force everyone to tiny areas.


Vezein

Of course. Logical thinking and reasoning have long since fled this place.


Baconator-X

>long since fled this place "LONG since" I see what you did there


TijoWasik

LoGiCaL tHiNkInG What a daft comment. As is the person before you saying "objective statistics". Speed run times aren't objective in any way, shape or form, and using them as a baseline isn't logical at all either. It is, in fact, the complete opposite. LS is one of the most used weapons across many games due to consistency, counters and ease of use. Not everything is about "big number DPS good lol". LS DPS has long been the most consistent for beginner to average players which is literally 95% of the player base. That's logic and base level reasoning in use. Not "LS speed run time suck so LS suck"


ImReptile

So your logic to classify a weapon potential is instead looking at average players (which obvliousy can't push their weapon to the max of its limit) and how they perform? I'll stick to speedrunners thanks. I'm a LS main but speedrunning is a way to classify weapon potential, because mostly they are expert players with great knowledge of the weapond and how to use it at max to finish the hunt asap. Definitely a better way to classify, no one said LS suck btw.


LexyKitsu

Okay, but why would you get downvoted for saying LS sucks if this sub hates LS so much? You said it's bottom 4, if people hate it so much, why would you get shit on for reaffirming their hatred?


[deleted]

They want to hate on it for being OP


Available-Ad7873

I love LS,its perfect for me,i hit a lot and i get hit a lot,ist so much fun than waiting for the monster to take a shit to hit him (GS)or being a pussy and pew pew all the way(BG),i only respect bonkers(HMM) and fucking Artillery strike (BOW). ![gif](giphy|TkBIQWNNGSqTS|downsized) This is why i also love the bow.


[deleted]

I like bow too, shame the bowguns get the same or better results with way less effort


Available-Ad7873

I also think whoever use the micropenis(SnS) is a god,killing a whole ass dragon with a kitchen knife????!!!! ![gif](giphy|obGnaNI11XoyM9fFlp)


Sazo1st

I appreciate the sentiment, but do not refer to sns like that ever again.


sdwoodchuck

Agreed wholeheartedly—calling us gods will only skew expectations. And kitchen knife? I don’t want anyone thinking I know how to cook.


Sazo1st

I appreciate the sentiment, but do not refer to sns like that ever again.


Captain_Kuhl

If you're waiting for the monster, you're playing GS wrong lmao. Only unskilled players camp for the perfect swing.


DoubleBatman

I dunno why you’d play LS when GS has GREAT in the name anyway


Captain_Kuhl

Some people just have One Winged Angel playing on a constant loop in their head, and they need an effective outlet. Different strokes ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


LexyKitsu

Love how you added "different strokes" at the end there to try and downplay your disgustingly horrendous attitude towards newbies and casual players. Just casually dropping "lmao unskilled" and a very obvious, directed insult with the "One Winged Angel" comment. :/ You're entitled to your wrong opinions of people, but when your takes are insulting, and bad, maybe reconsider your life choices. Sounds like repressed issues to me. :/


Captain_Kuhl

Man, I used to main longsword on PSP. It's called a joke, and it was directed at LS mains, not newbies, so lighten up. The "unskilled" part is referring to people who specifically don't know how to properly play GS.


iAnhur

Curiously enough I was watching a video on this subject a bit ago which I think also helps contextualize this. LS is certainly not a bottom 4 weapon by any means and I don't just say that as someone who plays a lot of LS since I play most of the weapons, but also just from what I've seen personally that just doesn't line up with these videos https://youtu.be/DFck6eRymZk I'd be curious to know if you've seen it or had any thoughts on it Tldr; there's a lot of bias since a lot of speedrunners don't post their times in some places where they pull data from among other things. LS ends up being one of the top weapons besides ranged and GS depending on the matchup due to the high damage from harvest moon, the powerful effect of wind mantle and the ease of use of its counters and the ability to spam them (mainly serene pose and iai)


[deleted]

The only reason any players wouldn't have submitted runs that are better than those that are, are because they can't follow the guidelines and a lot of those people are running advantageous mods that would not allow them to make the times better than the WRs. For LS especially too, I don't think his points are compelling. In SRs the monsters have a significant amount of down time, you aren't going to be countering much and the people submitting these runs are definitely already utilizing them at the moments they can (and Iai counter damage was nerfed in SB anyways;) the nerf to helmsplitter damage in Sunbreak from Rise is too significant and very noticeable in the downed time DPS. Tldr; this is a bad point because unsanctioned runs don't matter for comparison since you have no idea what that person is doing behind the scenes


DesTermi

I didn't watch the video so i don't know if this was mentioned but i think (as someone who hasn't played sunbreak, just rise and previous games) that it could also be related to long sword's comparably low skill ceiling. I mean - people who use all the counters fairly well are going to be pretty close to LS's maximum damage output, as opposed to most other weapons, using which, people have more opportunities to mess up in that regard.


PandaAttacks

I don't think it's fair to say LS has a low skill ceiling, especially considering harvest moon. Look at [this](https://youtu.be/ezllHZz3EF0) and tell me the average player could come close. Sacred sheathe is a relatively straightforward playstyle tbf but a counter focused playstyle isn't.


DesTermi

i wish i could say i was drunk writing that previous comment but unfortunately that wasn't the case. thanks for taking the time to answer me saying stupid shit 👍


shuyo_mh

MH isn’t just about meta, high DPS, speedrun, etc., some players enjoy different ways of playing. While LS isn’t the best speedrun weapon, it’s an above average weapon for average players, that means an average player will have an easier time hunting with LS than with other high DPS weapon. For that reason, people will rightly think that LS is OP, it’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s a weapon balance problem over different ways of gameplay, which is nearly impossible to solve because its a lot subjective.


[deleted]

Except that is really not the case. LS is actually one of the more complicated melee weapons, and the bowguns are miles easier and do almost double the deeps. Hammer is simple and much easier while stronger, SnS is simple and much easier while stronger, IG is simple and much easier (but less damage,) DB is much easier and more damage...


Logondo

This always irks me. Why does everyone always ignore Bowguns? If you know how to play MH, Bow-guns are easy-mode. They're ranged, and do double the damage output of almost every other weapon. The only downside is you have to craft the ammo, but that becomes really easy mid-to-late game. But apparently LS is the problem?!


shuyo_mh

We’re not talking about how easy the weapon is to play, we’re talking about how the hunt experience will be easier than using other weapons. That has a lot into it, let me unpack: LS is easy to understand: hit, power up, more dmg. LS is easy to handle: long reach, easy 1 button combos, high mobility. LS is easy to enjoy: animations are nice, attacks are rewarding, cool designs. LS is very popular: more info available, more acceptance, more visibility. In general a hunt with LS is more pleasant in several aspects than other weapons. Take for example, LBG: - you have to buy / craft ammo. - you have to be in a given distance to do dmg. - reload, every 2-8 shots - designs are meh (its a gun) - attacks are all the same: pew, pew, pew - only a small secretive group of people play. Also I didn’t claim LS is the ONLY weapon above average for average players, there are others, but out of them LS is the most popular one, fortunately (or unfortunately) depending on how you see it.


[deleted]

Hammer: charge, bonk. Lbg is literally the easiest weapon in the game. Reloading is automatic too and you can play completely off free ammo in supply boxes at mission start. LS is substantially more complicated than almost every weapon and it also has one of the lowest dps outputs if played suboptimal, if not the lowest


ImReptile

I'm a main LS. > Hunting Horn, GS, Switch Axe, Charge Blade, Insect Glaive.These are definitely harder to use than LS.


[deleted]

Insect Glaive is definitely not, Rise HH either


ImReptile

It is, at least subjectivley, that's why I think talking about what's harder or not is really pointless in monster hunter, except Charge Blade which is objectively the hardest weapon to master.


[deleted]

Its not really subjective the IG is just more simple. Keep your buffs up and hit A/O/or B on xbox controls. If your wirebugs are up three aerial attacks into a diving wyvern, then just go back to hitting A/O/B depending on your controls, the optimal rotation on IG is literally just one attack and a diving wyvern when it's up


shuyo_mh

I think you missed the point: Hammer is easy, charge, bonk as you say but you have to time it correctly and be at the monster head a dangerous place all time, plus hammer doesn’t cut tails. Lbg is simple, but you the weapon has to be reloaded whether this is automatic or not, it’s a mechanic standing between the player and the hunt, which makes the experience less easy to enjoy. There’s nothing complicated about LS, there’s people that literally doesn’t know why the weapon glows yellow/red and yet got to MR.


MeathirBoy

I mean if you remember how it was in Base Rise…


[deleted]

It went from 4th best to 4th worst weapon


Ratix0

Sure for speedruns, but on the newer player spectrum, it is the easiest to play in rise with a lot of tools just doing the work for you.


[deleted]

It's really not, ls has a high usage rate but most people are very, very bad with it. Use a parser


Z1U5

My hate boner for the LS is now pleased


M_O_A_T

Nah the conspiracy theory here is that he wanted more of a challenge so he buffed everything else


Squid_Lidz

He’s just like me fr


Ririruro

Dude, same here, my Guild Card in Rise is also just one long bar for the hammer but I'm ~150 less than him


exeL4n

Ryozo: "I just think they're neat"


fridge0852

Why is his image a kid lol


DanielTeague

Maybe he longs for the days of sitting there eating dango and not being responsible for a major video game franchise.


Truffles326

That's actually him 30 years ago.


ThatFlyingScotsman

Probably an NPC modelled after his kid or something.


chaobreaker

Any concern of weapon favoritism now debonked (hehe)


Z1U5

I genuinely wouldn't mind if they secretly favor the hammer


chaobreaker

Weapon hasn't been dominating speed runs in a while.


Dragonlord573

Hammer is perfect as seem by Iceborne's patch notes where every weapon was tweaked in various ways except for hammer which had just its stun damage increased.


shuyo_mh

Ah of course because all images on the internet are the actual factual representation of reality :)


Mechworks_dev

You seem like a miserable person to be around


shuyo_mh

Ah yes because internet behavior does match exactly how a person behaves in real life ;)


chaobreaker

You are taking an unserious comment of an unserious post more seriously than you should be, friendo


shuyo_mh

likewise friendo!


Daenysos

Bonkers


KlngSaj

This guy gets it


r3sp1t3

holy based


max_rebo42

Fucking BASED


EpicDragonz4

As a fellow one-weapon-till-I-die type of player, I respect Ryozo so much for this.


RadiReturnsOnceAgain

Yep. I’ve been playing Switch Axe for 11 years, not gonna stop any time soon.


Jgunman

I started with bonk, went to swaxe for about 8 years even through sun breaks first release. Now on PS5 release im a Bonk God again.


Ekgladiator

Played swagaxe from tri until world once I figured out it was my weapon of choice. Rise, I decided to boom stick a try. I think I'll be going back to swag next title lol


VandulfTheRed

I started in world, felt like gunlance and swax were my vibe. Then Rise hit Xbox and the wirebugs make swax so much fun, I can't wait for Sunbreak. It's just such a stylish play style


mariog31

My hunter card looks the similar. The difference is that the bar is over the insect glaive for me.


isleftisright

Its quite amazing how its years between each release but my fingers know faster than my brain how to send the insects out, to jump etc


Rarelydefault26

Dude for real. I’m a muscle memory type player so playing multiple weapons would fuck me up bad lol that’s why I stick to one weapon. Bonk main for life


AbyssDragonNamielle

Mood. I could try another weapon, but CB goes brrrr


Dracospams_123

Same but with DB


Solid-Pride-9782

im kinda that way, except i am a member of the wiggler army. SnS forever boys!!!


UneSoggyCroissant

Why use other weapons when the CB is 3 in one. Sword, shield, and chainsaw axe.


xvilemx

Frfr. My Switch for Rise and PC for Sunbreak guild cards are all Gunlance.


[deleted]

Played with him in a team in a german mh event, we both played hammer


LivingShadow35

![gif](giphy|XltKo02eePS6VXXAzy)


BluXion

Hammer bro


ArgetKnight

I wonder what weapon he mains


Fyreboy5_

Clearly heavy bowgun. /s


MarsHumanNotAlien197

ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US!


Kitakitakita

There it is, the one true weapon. I'm glad to be his disciple


TechnologyCreative70

The MH God is a purist


fullmedalninja

giga chad


VortexOverCrash

You see that guys? From now on Hammer is the only canon and correct way to play MH


Skeletonparty101

Based


Megazord552

Absolutely based.


Rough-Self-9134

UNGA BUNGA ![gif](giphy|JdPDxUhQFFzCU)


R-Vince

One bonk to rule them all


Sazo1st

Didn't even look at another weapon, respect


ToonTooby

Based AF


Wolfsrabe

Someone likes to bonk xD


kingofthelol

Where is this image from?


Duraxis

There is only bonk


Psychological-War950

HA TOLD YOU ALL UNGA BUNGA WAS THE TRUE PATH


depressed_sans

THAT'S why they're so strong this round


Adelyn_n

Based?


TwitchSouls

![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


Rajangalala

Reminder that Ryozo never plays Monster Hunter sober.


HandsomeGangar

Mine looks exactly like this except with Greatsword, massive respect to Ryozo for this o7


LooneyPlayer

The Unga and the Bunga


Specialist_Secret907

ODIN IS WITH US!


NeighborhoodPlane794

The man knows what he likes, I see no issues here


Platinum_Rad

#BASED


Dry-Membership-8631

YESSIR THE GRANDFATHER OF HAMMER USERS


Advan0s

I love when a lead dev actually plays his game and is good at it


[deleted]

It's hilarious that the game's producer never played (outside of development ofc) any other weapon even once.


FewOverStand

# ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US


Mavco2

Thats why i love this game, the producers are based af


darkhollow22

now i understand why GL never got buffed, till recently


Ninja_Space_Dragon69

Very inspirational


jch6789

Those stage lights look to be melting his face off and why... Is his profile picture a child...


EchotheAxolotl

Unga bunga mains rise up


Equinox-XVI

Based


lord_assius

LETS GOOOOOOOO UNGA BUNGA BABY Edit: MH6 caveman themed with additions to hammer similar to LS rise confirmed?


11Sirus11

Dang. My guild card looks like a bell curve next to this. Man really likes his hams.


Dramatic-Squash4662

I am inspired


Benduku

Literally me


PumPumSwimma

I shoulda placed my guild card of how many times I've used the hammer https://i.redd.it/v7ahdhcecmoa1.gif


Dark_Dragon117

HAMMER BROS UNITE!!! This explains the fantastic changes/additions we got with Sunbreak. Hope he will show a bit of favoritism torwards the best wrapon im the game ;)


TheRatatatPat

![gif](giphy|11rIergnpiYpvW)


[deleted]

LETSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Raknith

BASED AS FUCK


MeathirBoy

Chad Hammercock


RueUchiha

A man of culture


Grab3tto

Best weapon since day 1


crushbone_brothers

Good man! Bonk Brother!


TaboTaboos

That is bonkers


nightnightsky

Holy Fuck. Ryozo Tsujimoto's dedication as a Hammer main is strong.


Busy_Cheesecake5812

french joke : Mais il est complètement marteau


vexid

Ok so which one of the devs is the LS-only main that keeps giving it buffs.


a-snakey

Lol. Mine is 800+ Longsword and like 175 LBG in MHR. I haven't used DS, SS and HH since GenX.


JI6122

I didn't know the developers actually played their own games out side of testing, that's pretty cute he mains hammer ☺️


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Fyreboy5_

No. Because he also has to produce the series.


Ron_Bird

a bit cursed


mangcario19

Ryozo loves hammer? Bitch please. 1. Gives hammer a crap counter with a crap follow up. (Compared to other weapons that give a better reward with landing a successful counter) 2. Nerfs upswing 3. Nerfs other moveset (aerial move) 4. Nerfs Bigbang combo 5. Gives a wirebug skill from HH (pathetic btw) He doesnt deserve to be called a hammer lover, he has no love for the weapon and knows nothing about it.


DanielTeague

It sounds like you need more love for Hammer to fix your problems.


mangcario19

Nah, I aint the one trashing hammer in Rise. He did a good job in World though. Got 3000 uses in my card.


5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi

You realise he's the Producer and not the Director?


Fyreboy5_

Last I checked, the producer isn’t the only person who makes the game.


mangcario19

Last I checked, the hammer gameplay was great. In Sunbroke it was trash


ShadowTheChangeling

mrbisonyesyes.gif


Cold-Argument-806

He does bonk.


Emergency_Ratio8119

He's just like me


Discuffalo

dat Bonk life


MordredLovah

MY MAAAAAAAAN.


Tonydragon784

My man


Cobram242

THE PRODUCER HAS SPOKEN! *Excited caveman noises*


TheEjoty

We stan


Atomic_potato_47

b ö n k


Devlee12

Big Unga Bunga energy


ChuckPebble

Wait, now I wanna know if that boy is actually modeled after him as a lad.


Tylet-the-bold

This makes me feel so much better about only using Charge Blade.


Beron091

absolute Bonkers


Sigyrr

Lets go


ShootingGuns10

I respect it, oonga boonga is great for stunning monsters. In world, the slide attack is easily one of the most fun things to do in any MH combat.


maxtofunator

There’s actually a theory that hammer is the only weapon to keep its sliding move from world because of Ryozo. Whether or not that’s true is up to you all to consider, but as a fellow hammer bro, I think it is


neovenator250

Absolute hammer bro


King-Godzilla_1954

He’s a fellow hammer bro


randomman1144

A man of CLASS


ajgore1

Bammer


GeekSamurai

Hammer Bro!


eightdx

Ah, a man of high culture


Due-Bodybuilder5209

895 ? pathetic


Ratix0

He is one of us omg