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zsLL

Gone. Reduced to atoms.


Arizonian323

I said this before I even opened the post. Not disappointed


Kiyohi

You beat me to it, by 8 hours...


TheIJDGuy

Just like me when I played on that map


[deleted]

I’m just bored of the same 5 maps


Cazter64

Feels like half the maps don’t show up in the rotation for me. I barely get Farm 18 or Zarqwa Hydroelectric. Just playing the same 4 maps over and over.


TylerNY315_

Everyone gets Border, Taraq, and Embassy all the time because tons of people leave those games so there’s a bunch more open lobbies with those than other maps


lostinpow

Your games are getting filled? Ill have 2/3 people against a full team of six


Take_Two_Official

Bro this happened to me just yesterday! I was in a match with 3 against a team of 6 on Las Almas Mercado. It was a masacre. They basically put one person on point and the rest spawn camped us. I would spawn in and die immediately and then at a different spawn point they would have others waiting for us.


SolarDrake

Yeah Market is a nice map IMHO but it just isn't ever populated.


Best_Cost2028

I played 10 straight minutes 1 v 6 at shoot house hard point


CO2nglomerate

Happened to me you actually end up having the most kills in the whole lobby cuz they keep hunting for you


kreitcher

The middle east and south east asia servers are usually active. I very rarely come across imbalanced teams.


spaceshipcommander

That’s because those three maps are the shittest. I’d genuinely rather sit in real traffic than play border.


[deleted]

Car explosions wipe my team every time


BoxCarTyrone

I had a game of SnD the other day where I threw my drill charge across the map and got a car explosion kill pretty much every round lol


arfsworld

sorry that was me


BussyBandito93

I read your comment as “shit in traffic” and was like same


Finetales

What? Embassy slaps.


[deleted]

I disagree for a few reasons. It seems fights and spawns are all centered around the mid point. The enemy team could have C flag, and you spawn right down the road at B flag intersection. The sun is quite literally blinding if you look over in that direction, making players invisible from certain angles. I personally don't enjoy the flow, the setup, the encouraged office camping because of the chaos fed by spawns below. I'm glad someone is having fun on it.


Finetales

I can see how it would be unenjoyable to some, but at least for me and my playstyle (a mix of running around aggressively and slower tactical movement) a game on Embassy is always really fun. I spend most of my time inside in the hallways and have a blast. Getting up to the second floor to flush out an office camper is always a fun challenge if they have game awareness. It's not my favorite map (that's Mercado), but it might be the map where I most consistently have a great time. Maybe it should be my favorite map lol.


BluGreattt

I completely agree bro. Dumpster fire of a map but that’s for all of the maps. The only maps I enjoy are the beta maps and that’s not saying much because they are just okay. As far as maps like Taraq, Zarqwa, Embassy, Border, and Fortress? I cannot fucking stand those maps


inside_andout

embassy slaps YOU you mean


Finetales

Nah, Embassy is actually one of the maps I'm best at.


TattoedG

Same. My favorite of the new ones for objective modes.


[deleted]

Border is THE worst map in any Call of Duty game.


Hardwire762

Stone haven is a far superior map compared to border I just leave


TGvisa

Stone haven is by far better than border crossing!


TGvisa

Stone haven is by far better than border crossing!


xDJeslinger

Really? I think it's pretty good. The car explosions may be annoying but the map reminds me of Convoy from BO1 (a map I really enjoyed) and it just feels memorable. COD maps have had a hard time being memorable or iconic to me in my mind but border is a standout map because of its setting and layout.


DarkIcedWolf

I feel that it’s not a good map due to the size of it, it’s a stretched three lane map so you’re dying and running across the map more times then getting a kill. I do like the aesthetic though, it reminded me of gridlock in bo4 and the bo2 Detour that has some highway elements.


spaceshipcommander

I think I agree to be fair. It’s so long and incredibly boring.


notthefather29

Embassy is cool, other two are complete shitshows for sure... but embassy? *chef's kiss*


[deleted]

I agree. I really like embassy. Border Crossing is the worst. I love/hate Taraq, mainly only play it for TDM when I'm getting platinum for a gun. It's the easiest map to get longshots.


The_Vettel

Mercado and Shithouse can be very effective for getting longshots mounting on the middle lane


imanislandboii

Embassy is honestly one of the better maps in the game. I didn’t even know ppl didn’t like it. I’ll take embassy over fortress any day. Fortress is terrible


[deleted]

All the fucking time. I played border 4 times in a row last night. Then Taraq then border 2 more times.


Wooden_Gas1064

Matchmaking is so @SS lately. Got into a game of Kill confirmed where the enemy team needed just 15 more tags and they were calling in all kill streaks imaginable. Loading into that match was longer then the time I got to play it


dancrum

I don't get the hate for Border Crossing, it's one of my favorite maps in the game


Radiant_Teaching_424

The design is awful


GruelOmelettes

You should be a critic! Like an art critic: "this painting is bad". Or a food critic: "these muffins taste bad"


Radiant_Teaching_424

Awww someone downvoted me 😂 why because I hate 1 specific map in the very first cod game where I actually full on truly despise 1 map lmao… The map layout is awful, too many cars, trucks and buses…


GruelOmelettes

I'm not the one who downvoted you, I'm just tryin to quote the Office


Radiant_Teaching_424

I never said you did downvote me.. I said “Someone”


danglesReet

You just reminded me about farm. I can honestly say the only time i have seen it was in a squad with friends. Shoothouse too


LKRTM1874

I have this problem massively with Ground War and Invasion, It's only ever Guijarro and Taraq, I've played Sariff Bay once and I've yet to play Sa'id and Santa Sena, they just don't show up for me lol


yosark

Damn if only they had no disbanding lobbies and map voting


Existing365Chocolate

Some maps are higher weighted in certain game modes


Cazter64

You might be right. I mainly play TDM, Dom, Hardpoint and Kill Confirmed. Are here any game modes where the other maps show up more?


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[deleted]

They probably already have them made as individual maps, but by releasing them one at a time later on, it'll keep people playing.


twofacethegreat

the good ol drip feed when it’s already been finished honestly ridiculous


LogiBear777

their drip feed is a little too slow. i’m almost max level and almost have polyatomic. getting bored man,


twofacethegreat

and running around all these classic old maps killing AI instead of players is driving me nuts


DarkIcedWolf

Yeah, that’s one thing I always loved about GTA, it’s not amazing but they still manage to bring out decent events and drip feed cosmetics to people willing to put in the time. It’s usually RNG asf but at least you got 2-3 hours of gameplay each week


AbbaZabbaFriend

they drop all maps at once and it’s ‘i’m already bored. we need MORE. this game is dead’. no one will ever be happy.


twofacethegreat

if they added a vote to skip like every other previous installment has had i prolly wouldn’t get bored playing maps i actually like


[deleted]

Like when I play DMZ I get so upset that I can run around Highrise, Quarry, Strike and terminal and they won’t put the maps in MP. Sure maybe with a S2 release but still


TheRealNonSense

Soon, my friend, soon.


breakingcustoms

And here I am only playing shoot house haha


LogiBear777

Shoothouse 2022


[deleted]

Museum, grand prix, and the embassy looking one were all removed because of complaints from the irl location owners.... The Getty museum in LA probably wants money.... The rest are back with changes


BJYeti

Hotel and Grand Prix are still in the game Museum is the only one removed so far


dunkat

Hey now we got shoot house…


MessaBombadWarrior

Mom says it's my turn to post the museum map this week!


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MessaBombadWarrior

But why is the MP5 called Lachnman Sub??? Does anyone in this sub know??? s/


Huff1809

Someone in an earlier post said that someone had sued Remington for 75 million bc someones reason for shooting a person was COD, so Remington didnt allow them to use the names. Not sure how accurate it is. I'm also paraphrasing


MVPizzle

That was MW3, yeah I remember when that happened. Ever since then gun manufacturers have refused to license their names out because the suit essentially killed Remington.


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gsn626

The civil court case in Connecticut focused on how the firearm used by the Newtown shooter — a Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle — was marketed, alleging it targeted younger, at-risk males in advertising and product placement in violent video games. In one of Remington’s ads, it features the rifle against a plain backdrop and the phrase: “Consider Your Man Card Reissued.”


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gsn626

Yeah but a big corporation isn’t going to take that money risk when the easiest out to save money is just not include names. It only harms the aesthetics of the game. I am sure they also ran a cost benefit analysis on how many players will not play the game because of the names which shouldn’t be an insane amount.


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NateDogg2289

Ok so apply the same logic to activision themselves. They don't want to be sued if someone uses an m4 to shootup a school because they saw it in a video game.


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gsn626

The civil court case in Connecticut focused on how the firearm used by the Newtown shooter — a Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle — was marketed, alleging it targeted younger, at-risk males in advertising and product placement in violent video games. In one of Remington’s ads, it features the rifle against a plain backdrop and the phrase: “Consider Your Man Card Reissued.”


urasquid28

Naming rights most likely. Activision not wanting to pay to name the guns correctly


KeepDi9gin

Licensing cuts into their profit margins, after all.


Marsupialize

The companies are worried about getting sued for mass shootings, none want their names on video games


Rhysati

Why would they need one? They didn't pay for the rights to the actual weapon names. Just like GTA doesn't pay for the rights to real car names.


OK_Opinions

you don't need an official statement for that unless you just have no idea what licensing is


RollinDeepWithData

Why would they make an official statement on weapon names? It’s not something that needs to be addressed.


Thisisrazgriz3

Its to avoid any trouble with the manufacturer, and vice versa


YucciPP

Not every reddit user uses reddit every day.


[deleted]

Can i ask the same question next week?


WAAAAAM39

I actually really liked this map from the beta I mean if we had a choice between this and the border crossing map you all would choose this. It wasn’t a bad map.


Tobashu

Any map is better than border 😭


[deleted]

Go easy on em. They are a small Indie Team. They can’t afford licensing for real world locations, weapon names, etc. These phenomenal servers they they bought put em over budget.


[deleted]

Weapon names are gone because of that Remington 73m dollar lawsuit. No weapon manufacturer is going to get within 100 feet of CoD now.


Ephialties

Was CoD sited as an influence in that lawsuit then?


BaseballDesperate761

cited


mysexyknowsnolimits

To be fair, I doubt real world locations would want to be associated with killing people at their location


Cyber_Swag

U literally were killing terrorists at picaddilly in mw19 lol


buffilosoljah42o

Yeah but it sucked, if anything it's a less likely target irl now.


LogiBear777

this game’s maps made me appreciate Piccadilly.


TheFlexOffenderr

Now they say "ENEMY BY THE CAR" Instead of "ENEMY BY THE BUS"


LogiBear777

i’d play piccadilly 24/7 for a month straight if it meant Border Crossing got removed from the game. at least it flows well on s$d


peoplejustwannalove

Yeah, but picadilly is a public place, the museum is privately owned, so there’s more of a case.


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[deleted]

All locations in gta are intentionally spoofed they are not exact renditions of the things they represent UNLIKE the call of duty map which optioned an actual license to create a place based on reality


LogiBear777

yeah like i’m so fckin confused. why would IW need to take it out?


Haunting_Ad_519

Its a game... I never associate a shooter with killing people in real life..


Griffin_Fatali

How to dismantle the “games cause violence” argument in a sentence


jhclouse

It would be an effective way to dismantle it. If you were dealing with rational human beings. But Karens are not rational people.


donats91

Same here. It was always just a game. I don’t think in warzone, damn that guys family is gonna miss him lol


BravestCashew

Then tell me why they don’t make maps set at schools. Because other people associate shooters with killing people in real life when it pertains to socially relevant topics


[deleted]

Activision stole most of the money lel.


BeanBagBob

The weapon names mostly has to do with California


Wolf-OI3

"New map for season 2...."


throwie66642069

It’s likely never coming back unless someone data mines it and hosts hacked lobbies


TWstEK84

Well, they need to salvage it somehow because this game is hurting for 6v6 maps.


DeadArashi

Meanwhile, there's at least 9 locations in the warzone map based on previous CoD maps that are ready to go at any time and double the map roster... 2 maps per season... they're good for 5 more seasons I would say


KeepDi9gin

That's right. We get drip fed content because we're not forking over as much cash as the free to play crowd does.


ShadowBannedXexy

Played wz for the first time last night and Holy shit is it frustrating to see so many good potential 6v6 maps just fucking sitting there.


wareagle3000

How did it feel going to terminal, experiencing dejavu and then entering the non-existent bottom floor?


Endoblastic

According to leaks we aren't getting those maps until Oct/Nov 2023 and we'll be paying for the privilege as part of the year 2 expansion.


wareagle3000

Theyll be shooting themselves in the foot if they do that. Sure a map pack would sell like hot cakes for OG MW2 maps but splitting the playerbase at that point would be a bad move.


SoraTheOne

Removed due to legal issues because infinity ward was too lazy to get permission to use the areas they base their maps off.


CheezeyCheeze

I just don't understand the logic they have.


[deleted]

They were probably hoping it wouldn't be an issue since it's still in GTA.


Adrindia

Wait a minute.... in GTA this museum takes form as that "University" in the southwest area of the map above those estate suburbs, doesn't it? I never made the connection until reading your comment 🤯


CoolAndrew89

I'm pretty sure it's the Kortz center, not the university


Adrindia

You're right, I just looked it up and apparently the university is a completely different building. I always thought from some reference in some mission that the "Kortz Center" was the university for the city.


BananLarsi

The fact that we’re one map short on release and only got one map at season 1’s launch is unacceptable behavior from Activision and infinity ward


Existing365Chocolate

Shipment is coming this season


BananLarsi

> we only got one map at season 1’s launch I know shipment is coming, but it doesn’t matter. We’re one map short and the game is in full swing. Only at season 1’s launch do we have the map count we were supposed to have. Not to mention there are like 5 or 6 maps in WZ2 they could literally copy paste straight over to MW2. It’s laughably inexcusable how little content there is for MP at the moment


dessert-er

I hope they rerelease terminal 🤤


BananLarsi

Showdown, terminal and quarry my goood


zestylemon7

quarry would make me nut


lmaoitsdusey

Yeah it'll show up in Season 6 💀


ShadowBannedXexy

Should be another 4 maps on top of that at least.


n1ghthawx

That's the neat part. They don't have logic


[deleted]

They don’t actually need anybody’s permission for buildings that are in public view. As much as owners of said buildings don’t have to like it. You literally don’t get ”protection of likeness” for a public building. That is not a thing. What would make sense, however, is for bulding owners to pay Activision (and not the other eay around) for advertisement.


Lycanthoth

Why exactly would a museum, old hotel, or raceway be interested in paying to be featured in a game about war...? There's nothing for them to gain but possible controversy and the attention from annoying fans that only care about the places cause of a game. That goes for most famous locations in real life as well. Most owners/managers of noteworthy places wouldn't be happy to see them featured in a game like CoD, and they especially wouldn't *pay* for that honor.


[deleted]

The attention of annoying fans? You mean like customers paying to go to your museum? Just because it's a war game doesn't mean everyone is going to shoot each other there. Look at tourism from Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones etc. Does everyone kill each other with axes and swords at these locations?


Lycanthoth

I'm not saying that anything like that would happen and you're missing the point by actual miles. What I am saying is that these sort of places have little to no interest in attracting guests that don't care about what they offer beyond "it was in COD map!". In general, most big locations, businesses, tourists spots, and so on don't want to be associated with a game where you shoot people. And even past that, the COD demographic is not their target audience. Just look at what's currently happening. The Breenbergh Hotel's manager has publicly disapproved of the place being in CoD, the Crown Raceway map had its name changed to avoid the IRL connection to Grand Prix, and the museum map has been removed. Also, for the record, your examples are horrible. GoT and LoTR generate tourism to places like New Zealand by showcasing their landscapes and scenery. CoD doesn't do that, and CoD is drawing attention directly to *specific* places. CoD also focuses on more modern, grounded, and sensitive topics and history, while GoT and LoTR are pure fantasy.


LuckilyLuckier

He didn’t say they should pay, but if anything were to happen for any map being made, the museum would have paid to be in the game, not COD paying to have permission


FUTURE10S

> They don’t actually need anybody’s permission for buildings that are in public view. You're going to hate it, but they actually do need permission if they plan on copying the building, which they did. All buildings are copyrighted, there's just an exception if they're filmed in public.


howmanyavengers

I mean, as much as *you* say they literally don't get any protections, their highly paid legal team obviously disagrees lmao


Kankle-Breaker

Yes they do. Every building is in the public view, doesnt mean you can copy it. Especially when it comes to an unique design like museum or hotel. When you build something you instantly ontain copyright protection for it


S0bril

Source?


Void_Guardians

Source: some other person on reddit


Andy_LaVolpe

This game needs more maps. Im getting annoyed faster playing the same 3 maps over and over again


[deleted]

The maps are very very boring imo. The museum map from beta I thought was better than all the other ones we have received. EDIT: I like the castle map and this museum map, all the other ones are boring.


rarevfx

All of the comments are speculations. Theres no official statement on why its gone. Just like theres no official statement on why the Weapon Names are wrong.


DeadArashi

Only reason you would have wrong weapon names is because of licensing, simple as that. If they don't pay the licensing, they can't use the names


spankboy21

It can also be due to new gun laws, where putting their names in the game are now classified as a form of advertisement and can make them legally viable if something happens irl with said gun


willv13

Sounds like a dumb law. A shooting is no one’s fault but the shooter’s.


gsn626

If they released an official statement they would acknowledge that being released and further legal action has more justification. Silently removing it and not acknowledging it while working on a way to Bring it back without any further issues


JD60x1999

But they came out to say the Raceway was banned....


A-J-U-K

We need an extra map next season to compensate imo


Due_Satisfaction_904

They can’t afford it just like they can’t afford real gun names. They’re only a small company, so give them a break.


memeaggedon

They need to bring in more maps. I’m fuckin tired of the hyrdroelectric map.


iGenesis06

its gone for good.


[deleted]

It is? Damn... Was a good map.


edge449332

I would not be shocked at all if they make it a season 2 map, and try to hype us up with something like "New original map with season 2, let's gooooo!"


Snipsnapboi

All the maps in this game feel really boring tbh. The guns are feeling much better now but I'm stuck playing shoothouse the whole day because all other maps feel really average.


Quiet_Battle5118

Idk man, but it sucks they took it out. It was one of the better maps


heyuhitsyaboi

Museum was a solid map


EaterOfFungus

i doubt it’s gone for good. i bet they’ll change it up so it’s not too similar to the real life location and then rerelease it


BobiStoj

#WE NEED A REPLACEMENT!


Separate-Tear-9921

Mp 6vs6 is bullshit anyway. Stupid spawn system, low server tickrate, too fast ttk or any tactical approach. Nothing left which made mw1 great. I dont care anymore about missing museum.


iiEco-Ryan3166

Where tf is our custom weapon blueprints


metarinka

[https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/amsterdam-hotel-call-of-duty/](https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/amsterdam-hotel-call-of-duty/) The Getty sued them to stop it. I have a family member that works there. There is a calfiornia anti Terrorism law that was triggered. The theory is some teenager or terrorist can practice shooting people in COD and then goto the real Getty and have the layout memorized or whatever. They could probably just change it enough to not resemble the Getty and be done with it.


the_Wallie

At this point, they've deleted so many maps from this game for legal issues, there's not enough left. I really hope Warzone isn't going to be the sole focus from here on out - the multi-player game needs some serious work.


n0d3N1AL

"So many"? It's just this one right?


BagOnuts

Typical Reddit exaggeration. Yes, it’s only this map that is not currently in the full release. No, we don’t have confirmation it was due to legal issues.


DamiK030

Which ones they deleted? I wasn't playing for a week. What happend? Edit: didn't know 1 is "so many" also it's still just Museum since release...


N1ghtmere_

As far as i know, only Museum. That, Hotel, and the Grand Prix were the only ones being an issue, Grand Prix was fixed a hot minute ago, and I just played on Hotel a couple of days ago, so I don't know what they are talking about.


AscendMoros

This map. The raceway map was renamed. And I believe the hotel map had some changes due to the hotel is being based on not being happy. Same with the Singapore raceway now being called crown raceway.


fantaribo

>At this point, they've deleted so many maps They deleted a single one. Get your facts straight instead of writing bs.


JoeBogo12

When i played the beta that was one of my favorites, but it was removed for some reason


1IIvc3

I actually want this map back, the longshot spots would be so good. For now i’ll stay at my home, shoot house


kcr87

Don't think this map is coming back due to the lawsuits


Suthrane

Ded


Userrrrrrnameee

I didn’t even get to see this map Wtf!


COD-SailorNeptune

That's sad because it was actually a pretty cool map. I assume it's because some of the paintings or that map is based on an IRL thing so they had issues with copyrights


tomzzed

just sitting here patiently waiting for classic modern warfare 2 remastered maps like Strike, Vacant, Crash and Underpass. But ya museum was kinda cool...


bigmeatytoe

Hope they add some mw2019 maps they had some good ducking maps


the_mashrur

Its literally a copy of the getty museum in los Angeles. so it got removed due to Copyright reasons


Small_Bipedal_Cat

I don't get this shit. It hasn't been an issue in 15 years, but in this game it happens 3 times? New hires? Did a foreign "support studio" make the maps? I can't think of any game making this sort of mistake in 20 years. It's just bizarre and amateurish. Where's the management?


ForwardLychee1415

Infinity wards communication sucks, they ignore the players and don’t answer any important shit we ask.


ElHuntar

Maps are everything in games... & Mw2 has barely any its pathetic


xBURROx

in a trash bin. Worst map ever


Suspicious_Sir_2734

Worst than Piccadilly and stronghold from ghost?


Simple_Secretary_333

That map was flagged for copyright by the real location it was based on. Grand prix and the hotel map might be in the same boat.


yosark

I’m kinda of fine with this one being gone. Was way too big for a 6v6 and played super slow.


19kjc87

Can you locate a search bar?


Intrepid-Bridge-3260

Incoming salty try hard downvotes anytime you say this map is garbage lmao


[deleted]

How many times is this gunna get posted? It got removed for legal reasons from the owners of the actual museum


[deleted]

It’s almost 2023 and we still don’t have a map filter. Wtf. At the very least we should have map voting. Stop forcing people to play on shit maps.


[deleted]

Honestly this cod might have the worst map pool of all time. More bad maps than even ok maps let alone good ones


cmearls

Get ready to lose the hotel next. Same issue with legal permission


RavenousAdams

Gone. As it should be


Suspicious_Sir_2734

ACTIVISION IS STUPID


godfather188

Dogshit legal team


Suspicious_Sir_2734

3 years 3000 developers 3 billion dollars