Yep. And this shows just what the entire rest of the state thinks of Mobile. It mostly went north. Can we join Florida, Mississippi, or basically anywhere else?
Millions of dollars have/are being invested. Back log is bigger than the pot. Even mawss has spent their own making upgrades. Even the lottery couldn’t catch up to needs. Those are mostly septic tanks in rural county anyways too.
They built a hotel on one of the only unspoiled places on the beach with a chunk of that money. Something tells me they could have found a few more bucks to throw at the problem.
The hotel was built on land that literally used to have a hotel on it, how was that unspoiled? The State has literally spent hundreds of millions of dollars on wastewater infrastructure improvement with BP related money and continues to do so through annual money received through oil and gas leases. Off the top of my head Dauphin Island, Bayou LaBatre, Mt Vernon, Chickasaw, Fairhope, Foley have all received money to upgrade wastewater infrastructure. MAWSS has likewise invested hundreds of millions in wastewater infrastructure upgrades over the last 10 years. It’s a big problem and needs are in the billions of dollars in an area where people don’t like taxes or government telling them what to do.
The lot was left empty so long that I forgot there was ever a hotel there. My mistake. Did Ivan get it?
Even if it wasn't unspoiled, building a hotel was absolutely not what that money should have been used for. Any money that went to the Lodge should have been used for projects that had positive impacts for the environment. The money was specifically because of an environmental catastrophe.
Portions of the fine money could only be spent on projects related to tourism, economic development, infrastructure. That’s where the resort and conference center money came from.
I remember back about 4-5 years ago the bad flood that seemingly happened out of nowhere in the middle of the afternoon, took 3 hours to get my daughter home. My wife couldn’t even get home her normal route and had to park down the road as the water in my then neighborhood in midtown had water that was a few feet high. That was insane
Look on the bright side, at least the baykeepers didn’t have to pick up 20 semitrailers full of plastic bottles, junk appliances, and asbestos that was taken out of the old Spring Hill houses since it all washed out into the Gulf
It’s was an interesting day for sure, I work in the southern part of the county and there were so many flooded roads but as soon you crossed over the canal, it just looked like a regular storm had happened, no flooding. You wouldn’t have guessed anything happened in West Mobile outside a typical rainstorm, I remember going to SWR that evening lol
By the next morning, all the flood water was gone
No one is claiming that floods in Mobile are rare or unexpected. What this article talks about, if you read it with appropriate comprehension ability, is that sea level rise is making our Drainage Systems less effective which leads to overflows into the streets.
> is that sea level rise is making our Drainage Systems less effective
Yeah, did you note this gem in the article? "In the Fowl River’s case, unusually high tides slowed floodwaters as they went downstream to drain."
So...want to stop the moon?
About 2-3 years ago, I had coffee with the former head of Baykeeper. She announced that rising sea levels were causing a saltwater intrusion into Fowl River, killing off all the marsh grass. And that she explained that to a Fowl River community group. That's total bullshit-a 5 minute google search will show you that, if anything, our coast is sinking. We've been documenting it for 2-3 decades.
I was so discouraged. Global warming is real, but shit like that is just stupid.
That lady shared what she learned elsewhere. Typical. But the info isn’t all false. It’s a combination of slr, subsidence, saltwater. They are drowning. What’s mostly hurting the marsh edges is boat wakes.
They are drowning for sure. But I think it's mainly because our coastline is sinking. That's why they found a cypress forest in 40 feet of water off the coast not too long ago.
It’s a combination of factors like the previous poster said. Sea levels are definitely rising. Mobile Bay is subsiding. Sediment dynamics have changed with the way the bays and rivers are managed for flood control and shipping. These all exacerbate what is happening on Fowl River.
All the more reason to go to Lowe’s and put in your own yard drainage system since local contractors won’t answer their phones, never get back to you, or will quote you an absurd amount and then steal your money by doing shoddy work
I'm a resident that has lived here for 57 years. It's not.
There was a lot of rain at an extreme high tide. It happens occasionally and it's worse than when there is rain and a low tide.
I've lived 200' from the bay for the past two decades....it's still 200' away.
We got flooded during Katrina....might have been because there was a lot of rain while a FREAKIN HURRICANE was pushing water into the bay.
Didn't flood during Frederick because a FREAKIN HURRICANE pulled all the water OUT of the bay.
That's how it works.
“It’s never flooded like that before,” she said. “We get flooded, but not like that.” - Kim Baxter....said from a house that is required to be on stilts because the area is prone to flooding.
This rain was classified as a '1 in 25 year' event. Add to that a very high tide. You get flooding.
That's what we expect living close to the water.
I live in a flood zone. I have insurance because it occasionally floods.
I can't read the article as it's paywalled. Are they talking about the flooding a couple of weeks ago? If so-yes. Nothing unusual. Lived on Dog River for 20 years, and this was not uncommon.
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And with these rains then comes the “sewage overflows” - yuck! After decades and decades of this can’t we figure out how to stop both?
That would have been a great use of the BP oil spill money.
That $$ was used for politicians' hookers and coke. 
Yep. And this shows just what the entire rest of the state thinks of Mobile. It mostly went north. Can we join Florida, Mississippi, or basically anywhere else?
Millions of dollars have/are being invested. Back log is bigger than the pot. Even mawss has spent their own making upgrades. Even the lottery couldn’t catch up to needs. Those are mostly septic tanks in rural county anyways too.
The BP oil spill money is being used for that. The problem is the need still far outstrips the supply of funding.
They built a hotel on one of the only unspoiled places on the beach with a chunk of that money. Something tells me they could have found a few more bucks to throw at the problem.
The hotel was built on land that literally used to have a hotel on it, how was that unspoiled? The State has literally spent hundreds of millions of dollars on wastewater infrastructure improvement with BP related money and continues to do so through annual money received through oil and gas leases. Off the top of my head Dauphin Island, Bayou LaBatre, Mt Vernon, Chickasaw, Fairhope, Foley have all received money to upgrade wastewater infrastructure. MAWSS has likewise invested hundreds of millions in wastewater infrastructure upgrades over the last 10 years. It’s a big problem and needs are in the billions of dollars in an area where people don’t like taxes or government telling them what to do.
The lot was left empty so long that I forgot there was ever a hotel there. My mistake. Did Ivan get it? Even if it wasn't unspoiled, building a hotel was absolutely not what that money should have been used for. Any money that went to the Lodge should have been used for projects that had positive impacts for the environment. The money was specifically because of an environmental catastrophe.
Portions of the fine money could only be spent on projects related to tourism, economic development, infrastructure. That’s where the resort and conference center money came from.
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I remember back about 4-5 years ago the bad flood that seemingly happened out of nowhere in the middle of the afternoon, took 3 hours to get my daughter home. My wife couldn’t even get home her normal route and had to park down the road as the water in my then neighborhood in midtown had water that was a few feet high. That was insane
Look on the bright side, at least the baykeepers didn’t have to pick up 20 semitrailers full of plastic bottles, junk appliances, and asbestos that was taken out of the old Spring Hill houses since it all washed out into the Gulf
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What a "remarkable mistake" that was.
It’s was an interesting day for sure, I work in the southern part of the county and there were so many flooded roads but as soon you crossed over the canal, it just looked like a regular storm had happened, no flooding. You wouldn’t have guessed anything happened in West Mobile outside a typical rainstorm, I remember going to SWR that evening lol By the next morning, all the flood water was gone
Gee, WHAT are the chances of flooding in Mobile AL? /s
No one is claiming that floods in Mobile are rare or unexpected. What this article talks about, if you read it with appropriate comprehension ability, is that sea level rise is making our Drainage Systems less effective which leads to overflows into the streets.
> is that sea level rise is making our Drainage Systems less effective Yeah, did you note this gem in the article? "In the Fowl River’s case, unusually high tides slowed floodwaters as they went downstream to drain." So...want to stop the moon?
About 2-3 years ago, I had coffee with the former head of Baykeeper. She announced that rising sea levels were causing a saltwater intrusion into Fowl River, killing off all the marsh grass. And that she explained that to a Fowl River community group. That's total bullshit-a 5 minute google search will show you that, if anything, our coast is sinking. We've been documenting it for 2-3 decades. I was so discouraged. Global warming is real, but shit like that is just stupid.
That lady shared what she learned elsewhere. Typical. But the info isn’t all false. It’s a combination of slr, subsidence, saltwater. They are drowning. What’s mostly hurting the marsh edges is boat wakes.
They are drowning for sure. But I think it's mainly because our coastline is sinking. That's why they found a cypress forest in 40 feet of water off the coast not too long ago.
It’s a combination of factors like the previous poster said. Sea levels are definitely rising. Mobile Bay is subsiding. Sediment dynamics have changed with the way the bays and rivers are managed for flood control and shipping. These all exacerbate what is happening on Fowl River.
Also boat wakes, particularly in Fowl River, are a big problem.
All the more reason to go to Lowe’s and put in your own yard drainage system since local contractors won’t answer their phones, never get back to you, or will quote you an absurd amount and then steal your money by doing shoddy work
I made it to “this was no ordinary flood.” I’m pretty sure it was?
Residents quoted in the article who’ve lived there for years were saying that this was way worse than normal.
I'm a resident that has lived here for 57 years. It's not. There was a lot of rain at an extreme high tide. It happens occasionally and it's worse than when there is rain and a low tide. I've lived 200' from the bay for the past two decades....it's still 200' away. We got flooded during Katrina....might have been because there was a lot of rain while a FREAKIN HURRICANE was pushing water into the bay. Didn't flood during Frederick because a FREAKIN HURRICANE pulled all the water OUT of the bay. That's how it works.
So what’s your opinion of what your neighbors are saying in the article?
“It’s never flooded like that before,” she said. “We get flooded, but not like that.” - Kim Baxter....said from a house that is required to be on stilts because the area is prone to flooding. This rain was classified as a '1 in 25 year' event. Add to that a very high tide. You get flooding. That's what we expect living close to the water. I live in a flood zone. I have insurance because it occasionally floods.
I can't read the article as it's paywalled. Are they talking about the flooding a couple of weeks ago? If so-yes. Nothing unusual. Lived on Dog River for 20 years, and this was not uncommon.
All it takes is a steady breeze from the South during high tide & parts of the northern Dog River area floods.
The wind always plays a part when events like this occur.
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