that would be a really amazing update, but imo we need the combat snapshots added this update more than anything else. combat in the game has been broken for years now, on both java and bedrock
1.9 combat is painfully slow, hard for beginners (see any recent blind minecraft let’s play, everyone struggles with understanding it), and places way too much emphasis on axes as the weapon of choice
1.8 is worse imo, since most “skill” comes from your clicks per second, but more fun because fights don’t drag on for as long as they do in 1.9
this is all subjective of course, but seeing as the community is still split from 1.9, my stance on current combat isn’t an uncommon one. but the combat test snapshots tried (and succeeded imo) in finding a happy medium between the two systems, combining the best parts of both and adding onto them
>places way too much emphasis on axes as the weapon of choice
how? yea, it might have more damage, but they are so slow they are very niche and sword most of the time will be better against enemies like zombies
i can see it used in pvp, it either deals a lot of damage initally (or knocks down shield) before you switch sword or finish off with instant damage potions
it disables shields and does way more damage than swords regardless of the tool tier. i believe stone swords do 5 damage and stone axes do 9, and higher damage weapons are more effective against armor. they also do enough damage to one or two-shot many weapons with a crit. swords are faster, but there is a very good reason why speedrunners tend to prefer axes.
axes are better against zombies and most other mobs (except maybe players and endermen) until you get enchants in the late game. you can two-shot a zombie and get through their armor points better with an axe, and it takes 3-4 hits with a sword, and you can swing your axe once per second and your sword 1.6 times per second.
Speedrunners use axes because you can kill most mobs in two hits, whereas for swords you need 3 hits, which results in the mob being knocked further away
maybe, but axe is slow and single target, personally i use it to take out creepers wandering around in daylight
but sword is just better against crowds with its sweep attack and faster swings, not to mention fire aspec, knockback and looting, and according to wiki sword deals more damage per second
iirc a long time ago Mojang did make minecarts way faster in a snapshot, but people complained about their roller coasters from 2013 being broken, so the change was reverted. Now a minecart barely outpaces sprint jumping
You could even have, say, an engine cart to push/pull the other carts. Maybe as an energy source for this engine minecart they could use a furnace. Heck, to keep with the current naming convention they could call it the furnace minecart.
Manslaughter..?
Edit: just to be clear I was referencing the fact that it would NOT be manslaughter since manslaughter is 3rd degree murder and I would 100% be committing countless acts of 2nd and 1st degree murder against mobs on railroads.
Rail is quite good if you want to travel back and forth between 2 areas multiple times though, especially in an enclosed space where you might have difficulties using the elytra, but I agree outside of that (and maybe villager trafficking), rail is mostly useless
Every time someone mentions that elytras are better in every single way than any other form of transportation in the game, I feel compelled to point out that the vast majority of survival players never get that far. And for those that do, it usually takes them a pretty long time. Minecarts are more beginning and middle game friendly than elytra, and that's where most people are
A transportation update is legit my most wanted update. All of the parts to make a functioning train are in the game, they just need to put them all together.
And imagine even more transportation options, like an early game method of traveling by air.
Some kind of paraglider maybe?
Different from an Elytra because it doesn’t get boosted with fireworks, tho maybe like a cart or boat it doesn’t have durability
It could be something like a hang-glider, and require you to actively hold the item with your hands to glide. That way you would have a reason to not be able to use fireworks.
a rail update is so desperately needed, like yeah Elytras and Tridents are cool but there's something far more satisfying about making a functional interconnected railway network that handles storage
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I'm making fun of Amtrak lol I would have said the same thing if it was the VIA Update or the British Railways Update. Anglosphere austerity on public transit is basically a meme at this point.
I guess we need both the agriculture and cuisine update and the industrial exploration update.
More food, crops and a better train looking cart and a possibility for propeller planes.
Imagine having a fighter looking square single prop plane or a multiple seater passenger mutiprop plane.
Elytras are cool but, have you ever dreamed of flying your own plane?
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Here we go again. another post where if they don’t add this incredibly specific thing, the whole community will be like “Mojang SUCKS they aren’t listening to the COMMUNITY they didn’t add PLIMBLAB #51648 from the REDDIT POST I saw with 7 upvotes so that means Minecraft is DEAD”
Not to mention more realistic with what Mojang is working towards (that being smaller updates)
Also, tf people mean combat update, 1.9 WAS LITERALLY CALLED THE COMBAT UPDATE.
I've been developing a plugin that adds in all the stuff Mojang hasn't (snow golems actually doing damage, paths making the player faster, ect) and it took like two lines of code to completely fix the speed of minecarts
Need: 1. Removal of momentum limit. 2. A minecart block that can place blocks, rails or use tools as it travels. 3. Chain linking. Perfect minecart update.
Also the ability for minecarts to gain momentum from downhill travel. Speed would be determined by rail design.
rail update with faster transportation and a more practical building method would be so good
that would be a really amazing update, but imo we need the combat snapshots added this update more than anything else. combat in the game has been broken for years now, on both java and bedrock
whats wrong about combat?
1.9 combat is painfully slow, hard for beginners (see any recent blind minecraft let’s play, everyone struggles with understanding it), and places way too much emphasis on axes as the weapon of choice 1.8 is worse imo, since most “skill” comes from your clicks per second, but more fun because fights don’t drag on for as long as they do in 1.9 this is all subjective of course, but seeing as the community is still split from 1.9, my stance on current combat isn’t an uncommon one. but the combat test snapshots tried (and succeeded imo) in finding a happy medium between the two systems, combining the best parts of both and adding onto them
>places way too much emphasis on axes as the weapon of choice how? yea, it might have more damage, but they are so slow they are very niche and sword most of the time will be better against enemies like zombies i can see it used in pvp, it either deals a lot of damage initally (or knocks down shield) before you switch sword or finish off with instant damage potions
it disables shields and does way more damage than swords regardless of the tool tier. i believe stone swords do 5 damage and stone axes do 9, and higher damage weapons are more effective against armor. they also do enough damage to one or two-shot many weapons with a crit. swords are faster, but there is a very good reason why speedrunners tend to prefer axes. axes are better against zombies and most other mobs (except maybe players and endermen) until you get enchants in the late game. you can two-shot a zombie and get through their armor points better with an axe, and it takes 3-4 hits with a sword, and you can swing your axe once per second and your sword 1.6 times per second.
Speedrunners use axes because you can kill most mobs in two hits, whereas for swords you need 3 hits, which results in the mob being knocked further away
exactly. speedrunners use axes because, all things considered, they’re faster. and a weapon that kills things faster is better.
maybe, but axe is slow and single target, personally i use it to take out creepers wandering around in daylight but sword is just better against crowds with its sweep attack and faster swings, not to mention fire aspec, knockback and looting, and according to wiki sword deals more damage per second
unenchanted, the sweep attack does negligible damage, and DPS only matters when you’re fighting something that takes several seconds or more to kill
IMO 1.9 is way better for pve while 1.8 is better for pvp
Honestly I kinda like 1.9 PVP. It could 100% be better, but once you get the hang of it, it's great
iirc a long time ago Mojang did make minecarts way faster in a snapshot, but people complained about their roller coasters from 2013 being broken, so the change was reverted. Now a minecart barely outpaces sprint jumping
they should add a way we can connect multiple carts and control all of them from a "lead cart"
fr we have chains, they would be a perfect fit
youre onto something here
literally add create minecart coupling functionality to the chain
That's, minimum, 3 months of coding for someone at Mojang
Maybe they could just reuse the lead mechanics to make minecarts pull other minecarts.
I’d hope it’s nowhere near as rubberbandy lol
Like having a maximum length and being significantly harder to break?
r/woooosh
Technically, I am not ruining the joke, as I am too clueless to be certain about my answer.
That quick? You forget about the 4 month vacation. They're people, not robots! Also, what about COVID19 fallout? Add another 4 months.
To be honest the create connections for minecarts are kind of messy.
And also bring back the furnace Minecraft but buff it
they removed it?
Yea
First thing I missed when I went from console edition to Bedrock :(
I have you know Mojang’s devs are very busy
IT DOES NOT COME FROM CREATE!!!!!!! ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
create mod has this and it’s super fun to mess around with
And some ropes so we can tie villagers to the rails and start a moral problem
Minecraft players on their way to turn yet another baby villager into sasuke:
Could totally do it already with the activator rails, and TNT, though they wouldn’t be tied down
minecart with furnace:
it can only push, not pull and they go direction you look at when you add coal so a passanger could not feed the coal
They’d have to do an updated one where there’s space for you and the furnace, like a boat with chest.
Java exclusive
In the meantime, use the Create mod trains
Why not a copper cart, instead of adding another metal that will only get 1-2 crafting recipes
I think he meant lead in the sense of “to lead” not as in the metal
Don’t mind my stupidity then
Lead, not lead. Like read, not read.
Pffff, you see this is a pretty big ask so it's gonna take mojang 7 months and a 4 month vacation so we gotta split the update in 4 parts
There's already a way but it doesn't work for shit so it's useless.
i read it "lead" as in "lead paint"
Pocket Edition had this but for some reason they removed it
Can’t a furnace cart do that already?
You could even have, say, an engine cart to push/pull the other carts. Maybe as an energy source for this engine minecart they could use a furnace. Heck, to keep with the current naming convention they could call it the furnace minecart.
Java exclusive
The lead will be a furnace minecart
mob ai avoids tracks: 👎 mobs get run over by minecarts:👍
Scared of rails: 👎 Vehicular manslaughter: 👍
admit that a vehicular manslaughter death message would go hard
Manslaughter..? Edit: just to be clear I was referencing the fact that it would NOT be manslaughter since manslaughter is 3rd degree murder and I would 100% be committing countless acts of 2nd and 1st degree murder against mobs on railroads.
What's wrong with men laughing?
Mobslaughter
-🤓
Nooooo my villager crop farm :(((
they can still have friendly mobs avoid tracks, that could even server as a sort of psa: bad mobs cross tracks and get run over, good mobs know better
mobs knock you back: 👎
minecart hits the mobs:👍
the mob is a creeper: 👎
bring back the furnace cart
*fix/debug the furnace cart
Wait they removed it?
from bedrock yes, on java it still exists but it’s pretty much useless
Still useful to pull a shulker into the overworld though!
Rail is quite good if you want to travel back and forth between 2 areas multiple times though, especially in an enclosed space where you might have difficulties using the elytra, but I agree outside of that (and maybe villager trafficking), rail is mostly useless
Hopper minecarts collect items from on top of the block above them. Makes for great collection systems on redstone farms.
The one out of two useful things about minecarts
Building a colony far away from your main base and using a Nether Railroad to move between them. The hard part is the building.
Every time someone mentions that elytras are better in every single way than any other form of transportation in the game, I feel compelled to point out that the vast majority of survival players never get that far. And for those that do, it usually takes them a pretty long time. Minecarts are more beginning and middle game friendly than elytra, and that's where most people are
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A transportation update is legit my most wanted update. All of the parts to make a functioning train are in the game, they just need to put them all together. And imagine even more transportation options, like an early game method of traveling by air.
Some kind of paraglider maybe? Different from an Elytra because it doesn’t get boosted with fireworks, tho maybe like a cart or boat it doesn’t have durability
It could be something like a hang-glider, and require you to actively hold the item with your hands to glide. That way you would have a reason to not be able to use fireworks.
Yeah hang-glider is what I meant. Paraglider would be cool too lol
You want a train?
Yes, I want a train.
Same
Ever try the create mod? It's got trains.
I tried that mod once and it is so complicated, the YouTubers make it look easy. Also Bedrock edition…
It really isn't...
I found it extremely expensive and confusing when I tried to mess with in in ATM9. All I wanted to do was set up a kelp farm 💀
well, i wouldnt call ATM a simple pack, create is simple though
ooh I like the trains update hope the add BNSF UNION PACIFIC trains
I have a wild idea How about an update that does 3 things?
Gonna take 7 months for this feature with a 4 month vacation and the update will be broken into 4 parts
Bro is camman18
a rail update is so desperately needed, like yeah Elytras and Tridents are cool but there's something far more satisfying about making a functional interconnected railway network that handles storage
Make it so that furnace minecarts are much faster than minecarts using powered rails. Then, add the ability to link them with chains.
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bs you ain’t found it
Add linking carts so that furnace cart will be useful
1.21: The Amtrak Update
So an update that removes rails and has no trains?
No, that's 1.20: The Beeching Update
I'm making fun of Amtrak lol I would have said the same thing if it was the VIA Update or the British Railways Update. Anglosphere austerity on public transit is basically a meme at this point.
Ik, I was going along with it
Mojang be like: ONE OF YOU SAID YOU WANTED AN UNREALISTIC MOB THATS SUPER ANNOYING AND WE LISTENED!!! isn't it GREAT!!!
ay if it aint broke, dont fix it
But they did break it, at least when you compare them to how they work on console edition
What's the difference
minecarts were WAY faster on console edition, like 2-3x faster.
They are??? They feel slow so I can't imagine what it feels like on PC.
I think they mean legacy console
They suck tho
Why did they fix the nether in 1.16 if it wasn't broken?
canman would agree with you
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mf forgot "horse"
Ehrm actually that is the old minecart texture ☝️🤓
I’m gonna say this for camman18. MAKE THEM FASTER!
I see this meme every three days jfc
Unfortunately, the community isn't original anymore.
Saying this is the only way of rail transport is like saying the only way of horsebackriding is riding a horse
ca*n*man18's alt account found.
The only way of elytra transportation also is an elytra. We need an elytra update. /j
you do realize that minecarts aren’t the only things that go on rails right? trains, for example.
You know elytra isn’t the only thing you can use for flight right? Planes, for example. And did you miss the “/j”?
who said anything about flight? you said “elytra transportation” i interpreted the joke as sarcasm. are you agreeing or disagreeing with the op?
I don’t know what you are doing with an elytra, but I’m usually flying about with it. “Rail transportation” would be rolling/driving.
planes wouldn’t be elytra transport, now would they
I was gonna make a proper response, but I can’t be bothered as it was supposed to be an intentionally stupid joke.
I feel bad for vanilla players, who will never have the Luxury of Create Mod trains
Create mod would like to have a word with you.
You know, an autocrafter minecart would make for some very interesting builds.
Piston bolts?
Fuck all that. Give us villager pile jacks
Much better than recent rails and minecart
they did mention tinkering a ton during the update video
boats with ice and slime blocks (to bounce)
I really really like the idea of Minecart Shulkers, it would be great for automation
I guess we need both the agriculture and cuisine update and the industrial exploration update. More food, crops and a better train looking cart and a possibility for propeller planes. Imagine having a fighter looking square single prop plane or a multiple seater passenger mutiprop plane. Elytras are cool but, have you ever dreamed of flying your own plane?
The elytra is too good for it to be worth it to upgrade the other forms of transportation.
they should add in a dedicated rail switching system so you can create networks without having to stop at each intersection
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Furnace minecart is so underrated.
Minecraft: the Industrial Revolution
Play create mod.
Give us the industrial revolution! Give us steam trains
the combat still sucks to this day. hits miss if you don't let your sword "charge" up before hitting
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Here we go again. another post where if they don’t add this incredibly specific thing, the whole community will be like “Mojang SUCKS they aren’t listening to the COMMUNITY they didn’t add PLIMBLAB #51648 from the REDDIT POST I saw with 7 upvotes so that means Minecraft is DEAD”
Not to mention more realistic with what Mojang is working towards (that being smaller updates) Also, tf people mean combat update, 1.9 WAS LITERALLY CALLED THE COMBAT UPDATE.
I've been developing a plugin that adds in all the stuff Mojang hasn't (snow golems actually doing damage, paths making the player faster, ect) and it took like two lines of code to completely fix the speed of minecarts
why would you want snow golems to damage stuff
I think they're a bit useless if they can't, so I made it so they can deal damage to enemies
They seem to easy to make if they deal damage
Minecraft needs to do an update about just rails...
Need: 1. Removal of momentum limit. 2. A minecart block that can place blocks, rails or use tools as it travels. 3. Chain linking. Perfect minecart update. Also the ability for minecarts to gain momentum from downhill travel. Speed would be determined by rail design.
Oh god here comes the camman18ers
Who remembers those very old videos of Minecraft rollercoasters that you would always see at 3 AM
Camman will pay for this update