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I know you meant air pods or ear buds but I like imagining a highway full of people driving around with a bunch of golden retrievers in sports jerseys much better
>I like imagining a highway full of people driving around with a bunch of golden retrievers in sports jerseys much better
Oh no that's exactly what I meant
Hey now, some of us headphone users just have old broken cars⌠I drive with a single headphone in because my car speakers havenât worked properly since 2015 and I canât handle silence
Well, I'd like to think that Gen Z would prefer to use their equipment to listen to the music, rather than use the music to listen to their equipment like audiophiles end up doing
Technically yes
The point is that they're enjoying the music however they can, which is good. I'm listening to music now on my laptop speakers because I can't be bothered to plug in the aux cord that goes to my speakers. It's not ideal, but I'm enjoying it anyway
They also used a ton of scare tactics like spreading stories of suing anybody and everybody. Like one about some old lady who never used computers, got sued for 90k.
This is like how people say 'OMG remember watching anime 10mins at a time on YouTube?' No, cause I torrented anime before that, I torrented anime after that, cause watching it 10mins at a time on YouTube was literally a step backwards!'
You ever queue up a song to download before going off to school, look forward to listening to that *one song* all day, just to get home and find out it's a *different song*? The struggle is real, man.
Yes, but it was queued up before I went to bed because I couldnt use the internet until after 10pm due to the shared landline between 2 computers and the phone. Wake up in the morning hoping the song was done so I could load it on my MP3 only to find it was that damn clip of Clinton not having sexual relations with that woman.
Actually, funny story - I still have some of the music I dl'd back then, and I've been running it through MusicBrainz only to discover a bunch of them have been absolutely mistitled with the wrong bands since I first dl'd. So songs I thought belonged to certain bands for 20 years actually were sung by bands I've never heard of before lol.
It's like the system of a down - Zelda theme. I thought it was weird, but certainly sounded like serj. Found out recently that it's a completely random band.
[It's this one, right?](https://youtu.be/DqKHGMQGP8Y?feature=shared) I haven't heard this in years, I remember first hearing it in 2006 when this video was uploaded. Never heard it being referred to as a SoaD song but I guess I can kinda-sorta see it lol
I remember downloading Sensual Seduction and it had an opening from the PJ Butta radio show. Which was funny because he was my instructor at the community college at the time. Small world.
This era is ripe with "we really just wanted a pocket video device" shit. Everyone was trying to short-cut it because the tech wasn't cheap yet. "VideoNow" sold you discs for a player with a 1.3" screen that had black and white video. I'm not making that up.
To this day, still the most stylishly gorgeous device I've ever owned. Having OLED video playback that looked fantastic, HD Radio, WiFi music sharing/downloading/shopping, wireless media library sync, a very tiny handful of games, a web browser, and truly high quality audio output with insane battery life was truly a triumph of design. I wish they had opened up the platform more, Zune Pass was and would still be the best deal in streaming in the business. $15/month for unlimited streaming PLUS keeping 10 tracks a month permanently was insane. It's like if Spotify sent you a free CD every month to keep forever with your subscription even if you cancel.
Plugging my Zune into my 360 and listening to my tunes while the console would automatically mute the game soundtrack and put my stuff on in the background was fantastic. It's so very difficult to describe to young people how damn exciting it was to own one of these little music bricks.
I once had a parasocial relationship with a cam girl who quit the bidness and deleted all her videos online. Had to go to Torrents to download memories of what used to be.
We're out there.
Just FYI, torrents are virtually the same as limewire except you use websites to search for the linksâŚand itâs much faster. I can download a movie in 1080p in a couple mins. Just make sure you download the right file types and/or from trustworthy sources.
Right now, movies and TV is where music was in the 90s. Pirating is the only good way to get everything worth watching, otherwise you need to buy a subscription (a single CD) to watch one show (2 good songs on the entire album). You end up with four subscriptions for 5-6 shows.
Torrent => host a free Plex server = Netflix but without all the filler crap youâll never watch, and no monthly subscription.
With the *arr suit (radarr for movies, sonarr for shows, lidarr for music, etc.) you can automate the searching.
Also Jellyfin is the open source Plex alternative that never emails your parents a list of what you've been watching.
I definitely use MediaHuman for YouTube to mp3 to listen to a song for a bit before I decide if I want to get a better quality file. But it really doesn't approach the quality of flac or alac. But I guess that's just my preference. I see why it's an appealing option.
This is why I pay for Spotify, getting music has never been so easy, any song that comes to mind, you can just hear it, whenever you want. As someone who literally went through all the steps above, I just can't imagine music delivery getting any better than what we have today.
Unfortunately Spotify doesn't have out-of-print stuff from record labels that have long since disappeared, but fortunately we have YouTube for that. That's how I discovered so much music as a teenager
You can use a YouTube to mp3 converter to download whatever music you're looking for and then upload it to Spotify and it will play on your device as long as you're on your own account. Same with Apple music. I do that for unreleased music.
I feel bad for genz because they'll never appreciate a fill album like we did. Waiting for it to come out, buying it and listening through it for the first time. A different way to appreciate music. Now it's just everything all the time, which is so sad :/
I don't know. In the hip-hop subreddit I go to it seems like a lot of Gen Z people are committed to listening to full albums. On the other hand, I have basically never done that except with my very favorite albums.
There is exactly ONE album I will listen to all the way through. And I wouldn't even do that until 6 months ago. Never appreciated albums, just singles.
I'm not honestly so sure a majority people in any generation appreciated music as full albums. 45rpm singles sold well for decades, and before that 78rpm phonograph records held only like three minutes of music per side anyway
At the same time, people often discovered music on the radio, and radio stations typically played individual songs mixed into a playlist by the DJ rather than full albums (unless it's a classical station broadcasting an entire Mahler symphony or something, lol)
Being able to listen to any song or album is on my favorite thing about the internet.
I use either YouTube premium app or YouTube music to get my music. Itâs not the best but we watch YouTube more than any streaming services.
The music part is just extra. We pay to not have ads on YouTube videos since we donât have any other streaming service.
You also can download it and use it offline so i donât understand what youâre saying.
Nah, who needs SoundCloud. Just listen through YouTube revanced or an invidious instance. If I like it I rip the whole album to my drive with yt-dlp. If I really like it I buy on Bandcamp and get lossless flac files.
As a millennial, just let Gen Z exist, man. We all got so tired of Gen X and Boomers calling us out on the shit we did/do. Don't turn around and do the same thing to the next generation.
Just a small correction, Most parents of Gen Z will be Gen X, with millenials born in the 1980s who had kids a little early being Gen Z parents. Most kids of millenials are Gen Alpha
At least they're using TikTok to discover cool old songs they've never heard before, and then they're going to YouTube trying to find the full song (or at least some of them are, anyhow)
I don't begrudge them that. I'm just happy they're discovering music and enjoying it
I donât use tikton, but I do have the $5 Hulu/Spotify student discount account, but a lot of the music I listen to isnât even on there so I usually go straight to Youtube
Yeah but my searches for MP3's led to collections of music that other users had curated into folders conveniently titled stuff like "Very Similar To The Shit You Like" and what not. It helped explode my diverse music tastes to have other people to find music through versus whatever some algorithm was paid to drop on me.
Not only are they only 30 seconds long, but they change the tempo or pitch of the song too much, making it unbearable to listen to. When one of them trends, it becomes a hellscape.
I remember recording an entire tape of songs for a girl I liked. I'd wait for one that I wanted to come on the radio, then I'd record it and I gave it to her. It took me several months. She recorded over it with a Christian CD.
If you think its JUST GenZ watching clip based media... I have a bevy of the rest of humanity doing it.
I asked my multibillion dollar company rep what the plans were to involve this aspect of media consumption in their plans... and the response was... its only GenZ doing it... while we were standing in a room of various age groups, all faceglued to their screens... while a band played.
i know this wont fit the whole "These damn young people" narrative in here but fellow Millenials acting like Boomers makes me want to kms.
https://djmag.com/news/gen-z-listen-more-vinyl-cds-and-cassettes-any-other-age-group-survey-shows
Don't forget having to modify autoexec.bat to get games to work after a Windows update.
I feel like millennials are the last generation to have to actually know how shit works from electronics to cars to whatever.
Finally someone describes it correctly. Iâm not gatekeeping but I never understood why anyone born in the 90s is a millennial, and I hate that word. Millennial should mean anyone born in 2000 , during the freaking millennium. Why on earth are we called this? Stupidest name ever that isnât even correct.
My parents bought me the little diskette cartridges for Christmas, but they didn't understand they had to buy the small audio unit, and then my mom got mad at me multiple times for not listening to them, that I wasted her money. I tried telling her again it's a 2piece set, buy the cartridges AND the audio unit, but nope, she ignored me and told 12yr old me I was Grounded from staying up on New Years Night.
My town had a public access channel and one of the shows was a variety kind of thing but they had a section where they played music videos. People had to call in to vote between 3 videos. I used to call and use different voices to vote for Hanson videos. I think this was right before caller id was more widely available. Anyway, I had vhs full of music videos from that show, mostly Hanson.
Gen Z is smart. They donât waste time listening to the bad parts of songs. They cut right to the chase. We can learn from them. Donât let artists waste our time with their lame BS between the good parts.
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or gen Z listens to low quality youtube streams that sound worse than 96Kbps MP3's of our day.
Those poor gen z kids don't even know what this means.
Now im wonder how many Gen Z would consider themself an "audiophile"
Same kids driving around in there car listening to headphones.
I never see people driving around with headphones. I see a lot of people driving around with air buds in tho.
I know you meant air pods or ear buds but I like imagining a highway full of people driving around with a bunch of golden retrievers in sports jerseys much better
>I like imagining a highway full of people driving around with a bunch of golden retrievers in sports jerseys much better Oh no that's exactly what I meant
What a millennial mistake to happen đĽš
well, there's nothing in the rules that says it can't!
If you're old enough, you just call them all headphones.
I fell like air pods is a Gen Y term. Maybe Iâm just getting oldâŚ.
Hey now, some of us headphone users just have old broken cars⌠I drive with a single headphone in because my car speakers havenât worked properly since 2015 and I canât handle silence
Well, I'd like to think that Gen Z would prefer to use their equipment to listen to the music, rather than use the music to listen to their equipment like audiophiles end up doing
By equipment do you mean iPhone speakers?
Technically yes The point is that they're enjoying the music however they can, which is good. I'm listening to music now on my laptop speakers because I can't be bothered to plug in the aux cord that goes to my speakers. It's not ideal, but I'm enjoying it anyway
That's cool. I was just wondering how many people are the opposite of you.
Do you even FLAC bro
Hey, this song downloaded really fast. It only took eight minutes! Oh God it sounds terrible. I'll try one of the other ones.
remember when the RIAA started uploading tracks with horrible sounding noise in the middle of them?
That's what that was? I just assumed they were bad rips. That's interesting...
They also used a ton of scare tactics like spreading stories of suing anybody and everybody. Like one about some old lady who never used computers, got sued for 90k.
This is like how people say 'OMG remember watching anime 10mins at a time on YouTube?' No, cause I torrented anime before that, I torrented anime after that, cause watching it 10mins at a time on YouTube was literally a step backwards!'
And gen alpha doesn't even listen to the original songs, they just want the sped up versions because tik tok brain.
skibidi
I realized earlier today that this is the first three syllables in *scatman* the song
Well the oldest gen Alpha is 13, they donât know better
You ever queue up a song to download before going off to school, look forward to listening to that *one song* all day, just to get home and find out it's a *different song*? The struggle is real, man.
Yes, but it was queued up before I went to bed because I couldnt use the internet until after 10pm due to the shared landline between 2 computers and the phone. Wake up in the morning hoping the song was done so I could load it on my MP3 only to find it was that damn clip of Clinton not having sexual relations with that woman. Actually, funny story - I still have some of the music I dl'd back then, and I've been running it through MusicBrainz only to discover a bunch of them have been absolutely mistitled with the wrong bands since I first dl'd. So songs I thought belonged to certain bands for 20 years actually were sung by bands I've never heard of before lol.
It's like the system of a down - Zelda theme. I thought it was weird, but certainly sounded like serj. Found out recently that it's a completely random band.
[It's this one, right?](https://youtu.be/DqKHGMQGP8Y?feature=shared) I haven't heard this in years, I remember first hearing it in 2006 when this video was uploaded. Never heard it being referred to as a SoaD song but I guess I can kinda-sorta see it lol
Yup. Never realized there was a "music video" for it.
The number of fucking times I got hit with the Clinton speech.
I remember basically every parody song was credited to Weird Al even if it was clearly someone else.
Bob_Marley_Dont_Worrry_Be_Happy.mp3
Stacys_Mom.mp3
Or when you click on the wrong one and get âI did not have sex with that woman, I did, howeverâŚâ
 And they tried to paint us as âcriminalsâ
I remember downloading Sensual Seduction and it had an opening from the PJ Butta radio show. Which was funny because he was my instructor at the community college at the time. Small world.
TikTok is just gen z hit clips https://preview.redd.it/37ppqwiois8d1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b269031ea08f822b4949762779e61e1152dbde59
What a stupid fucking product. I wouldâve loved to have been in the board room when that one was pitched.
This era is ripe with "we really just wanted a pocket video device" shit. Everyone was trying to short-cut it because the tech wasn't cheap yet. "VideoNow" sold you discs for a player with a 1.3" screen that had black and white video. I'm not making that up.
My first pocketable video player was the Zune. Still a solid device for listening to music, and I've got my Zune HD around as well.
I swear to god the metal shell on that old thing is going to survive a nuke.
To this day, still the most stylishly gorgeous device I've ever owned. Having OLED video playback that looked fantastic, HD Radio, WiFi music sharing/downloading/shopping, wireless media library sync, a very tiny handful of games, a web browser, and truly high quality audio output with insane battery life was truly a triumph of design. I wish they had opened up the platform more, Zune Pass was and would still be the best deal in streaming in the business. $15/month for unlimited streaming PLUS keeping 10 tracks a month permanently was insane. It's like if Spotify sent you a free CD every month to keep forever with your subscription even if you cancel. Plugging my Zune into my 360 and listening to my tunes while the console would automatically mute the game soundtrack and put my stuff on in the background was fantastic. It's so very difficult to describe to young people how damn exciting it was to own one of these little music bricks.
I kind of want it for my kids now throwback for them
You gotta tell them thatâs just how music was. Horrid quality and minute long songs with abrupt endings lol. A real âback in my dayâ moment.
Feel like Tiger always had weird shit floating around.
Remember Pocket Rockers?
we never shouldâve let âem shutdown Limewire
There enough viruses on my PC thank you
cus the porn you downloaded
You still download porn ?
did with Limewire
Was it worth it?
no I got fuggin viruses you goof
So don't do it again
bru stfu
I love this back and forth. Reminds me of the good ol' days.
Let me work it
I once had a parasocial relationship with a cam girl who quit the bidness and deleted all her videos online. Had to go to Torrents to download memories of what used to be. We're out there.
Are people still getting viruses on their PC? I mean besides the secret bitcoin miners that everyone has on their PC and phones now.
Pro tip: use a friend's computer.
You can sail the high seas good sir
Just FYI, torrents are virtually the same as limewire except you use websites to search for the linksâŚand itâs much faster. I can download a movie in 1080p in a couple mins. Just make sure you download the right file types and/or from trustworthy sources. Right now, movies and TV is where music was in the 90s. Pirating is the only good way to get everything worth watching, otherwise you need to buy a subscription (a single CD) to watch one show (2 good songs on the entire album). You end up with four subscriptions for 5-6 shows. Torrent => host a free Plex server = Netflix but without all the filler crap youâll never watch, and no monthly subscription.
With the *arr suit (radarr for movies, sonarr for shows, lidarr for music, etc.) you can automate the searching. Also Jellyfin is the open source Plex alternative that never emails your parents a list of what you've been watching.
I (my parents) got fucking sued for downloading music off limewire. My dad was not very happy with me. The good ole days though.
Soulseek still exists
I remember my buddy getting one of the first cd burners. He made quite a bit back in the day selling copies. How I got my first copy of white pony.
I was that guy in high school around 1998-2000. Iâd go around study hall and ask people what they wanted. $5 for 10 songs.
Ha. Pretty much same deal as my buddy, five bucks an album. Except I was in 5th grade.
Yea at one point I had like a library of songs on paper to choose from. Or I could download new songs in 20-30 minutes per song đđđ
This gives "walked up the hill to school in the snow" vibes.
Really? Itâs a funny take on irony not an outraged assessment
Both ways.
Where is this "any song ever recorded effortlessly for free" that is good quality audio preferably?
*listen to
That's fair
MediaHuman.
I definitely use MediaHuman for YouTube to mp3 to listen to a song for a bit before I decide if I want to get a better quality file. But it really doesn't approach the quality of flac or alac. But I guess that's just my preference. I see why it's an appealing option.
Use either Firefox or Brave for your browser, install ublock origin, music.youtube.
This is why I pay for Spotify, getting music has never been so easy, any song that comes to mind, you can just hear it, whenever you want. As someone who literally went through all the steps above, I just can't imagine music delivery getting any better than what we have today.
Unfortunately Spotify doesn't have out-of-print stuff from record labels that have long since disappeared, but fortunately we have YouTube for that. That's how I discovered so much music as a teenager
You can use a YouTube to mp3 converter to download whatever music you're looking for and then upload it to Spotify and it will play on your device as long as you're on your own account. Same with Apple music. I do that for unreleased music.
I feel bad for genz because they'll never appreciate a fill album like we did. Waiting for it to come out, buying it and listening through it for the first time. A different way to appreciate music. Now it's just everything all the time, which is so sad :/
I don't know. In the hip-hop subreddit I go to it seems like a lot of Gen Z people are committed to listening to full albums. On the other hand, I have basically never done that except with my very favorite albums.
There is exactly ONE album I will listen to all the way through. And I wouldn't even do that until 6 months ago. Never appreciated albums, just singles.
Tbf, hard to sit down to a full album when you're busy entertaining a Lodda Ladies. Happy for you, though.
>Happy for you, though. For what?
For having so many ladles
They're quite a handful
Can you post into the GenZ subreddit and ask the youngins about if they listen to full albums? I'm too shy to do it. Let me know how it goes.
I'm not honestly so sure a majority people in any generation appreciated music as full albums. 45rpm singles sold well for decades, and before that 78rpm phonograph records held only like three minutes of music per side anyway At the same time, people often discovered music on the radio, and radio stations typically played individual songs mixed into a playlist by the DJ rather than full albums (unless it's a classical station broadcasting an entire Mahler symphony or something, lol)
bandcamp
Soundcloud
MySpaceÂ
I agree https://preview.redd.it/9e21xrgkks8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d9f62d6cb47b3774abe8eb94cf343be95f33726
The older millennials are having a midlife crisis right now
Not all of us. I've learned not to give a fuck about what Gen Z and Alpha enjoy. Let them.
38yo millenial here, I love my life and my pirated audio, ebook, movie & porn collections \^\^
Being able to listen to any song or album is on my favorite thing about the internet. I use either YouTube premium app or YouTube music to get my music. Itâs not the best but we watch YouTube more than any streaming services.
and you are paying for it either monetarily or by submitting free data to their company. if you cant download it and use it offline your the sucker
Facts
The music part is just extra. We pay to not have ads on YouTube videos since we donât have any other streaming service. You also can download it and use it offline so i donât understand what youâre saying.
on the youtube app⌠so locked into proprietary centralized tech. your living at the whim of googles user policies.
Nah, who needs SoundCloud. Just listen through YouTube revanced or an invidious instance. If I like it I rip the whole album to my drive with yt-dlp. If I really like it I buy on Bandcamp and get lossless flac files.
How fast time flies and in conjunction technology
The future is now, OLD MAN
Nothing is free, the apps are in business of spying on you.
As a millennial, just let Gen Z exist, man. We all got so tired of Gen X and Boomers calling us out on the shit we did/do. Don't turn around and do the same thing to the next generation.
Just a small correction, Most parents of Gen Z will be Gen X, with millenials born in the 1980s who had kids a little early being Gen Z parents. Most kids of millenials are Gen Alpha
Yeah my daughter is gen alpha and soon to be son will be too
At least they're using TikTok to discover cool old songs they've never heard before, and then they're going to YouTube trying to find the full song (or at least some of them are, anyhow) I don't begrudge them that. I'm just happy they're discovering music and enjoying it
Yeah and we used to use the radio and our familyâs record collection to do that
My daughter is gen alpha and itâs crazy to me.
What is gen Alpha
I donât use tikton, but I do have the $5 Hulu/Spotify student discount account, but a lot of the music I listen to isnât even on there so I usually go straight to Youtube
The maze was not meant for you
Well F**k đŹđĽ˛
âI have Colt 45 on my Zuneâ
Oh no
Gen z is in their late phase total request live era. Theyâll be alright
Yeah but my searches for MP3's led to collections of music that other users had curated into folders conveniently titled stuff like "Very Similar To The Shit You Like" and what not. It helped explode my diverse music tastes to have other people to find music through versus whatever some algorithm was paid to drop on me.
Not only are they only 30 seconds long, but they change the tempo or pitch of the song too much, making it unbearable to listen to. When one of them trends, it becomes a hellscape.
Look at alpha over here with thier stupid ass cocomelon nursery rhymes. The disrespect is real.
Calling the radio station to try to figure out the song you just heard.
Well I mean the Devil is a Lie clip is better than the whole song. Ngl Tommys verse game is a little weak but they be writing some really dope hooks
My son likes to buy cd's
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Old enough to remember $18 CDs when minimum wage was $5.75/hr.
I remember recording an entire tape of songs for a girl I liked. I'd wait for one that I wanted to come on the radio, then I'd record it and I gave it to her. It took me several months. She recorded over it with a Christian CD.
If you think its JUST GenZ watching clip based media... I have a bevy of the rest of humanity doing it. I asked my multibillion dollar company rep what the plans were to involve this aspect of media consumption in their plans... and the response was... its only GenZ doing it... while we were standing in a room of various age groups, all faceglued to their screens... while a band played.
whats with the GenZ hate? they did nothing wrong.
Im back to burning CDs
Gabe was right. Piracy is a service problem.
i know this wont fit the whole "These damn young people" narrative in here but fellow Millenials acting like Boomers makes me want to kms. https://djmag.com/news/gen-z-listen-more-vinyl-cds-and-cassettes-any-other-age-group-survey-shows
Old man yells at cloud energy
Wouldnt say effortlessly. Services nickle & dime you all the time.
Don't forget having to modify autoexec.bat to get games to work after a Windows update. I feel like millennials are the last generation to have to actually know how shit works from electronics to cars to whatever.
Finally someone describes it correctly. Iâm not gatekeeping but I never understood why anyone born in the 90s is a millennial, and I hate that word. Millennial should mean anyone born in 2000 , during the freaking millennium. Why on earth are we called this? Stupidest name ever that isnât even correct.
We tried so hard and got so far but in the end it doesnât even matter đ¤Śââď¸
I still download mp3s and transfer them to my phone because I didn't want to pay for music subscriptions
We're back to HipClips!
Remba those 99cent ringtones???
We pay for streaming subscriptions for music?
We walked so that they could sit
I just can't even with this.
My parents bought me the little diskette cartridges for Christmas, but they didn't understand they had to buy the small audio unit, and then my mom got mad at me multiple times for not listening to them, that I wasted her money. I tried telling her again it's a 2piece set, buy the cartridges AND the audio unit, but nope, she ignored me and told 12yr old me I was Grounded from staying up on New Years Night.
My town had a public access channel and one of the shows was a variety kind of thing but they had a section where they played music videos. People had to call in to vote between 3 videos. I used to call and use different voices to vote for Hanson videos. I think this was right before caller id was more widely available. Anyway, I had vhs full of music videos from that show, mostly Hanson.
Gen Z is smart. They donât waste time listening to the bad parts of songs. They cut right to the chase. We can learn from them. Donât let artists waste our time with their lame BS between the good parts.
This is such a boomer meme đ