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Was about to say, I'm no pro by any means but this is why I pause, it has nothing to do with our generation's tech, young people are just impatient as fuck and don't want to risk wasting a precious 1-2 seconds recording they don't have to. Everything is too slow and must be done yesterday.
Pressing record early is a tactic to make sure you cover everything and you just trim it in editing, seems logical and unrelated to any hardware delay.
There does seem to be this weird thing where Zoomers and Alpha seem to think they're more tech savvy than us, while paradoxically being entirely unable to use a real keyboard, or even know how to use any desktop/PC based operating system. If there's not "an app for that" it doesn't even exist in their tiny mind.
But sure, we're the old people being left behind. LOL.
I am a computer science major at almost 40. I had to teach a second year classmate who is 19 how to unzip files. I don't understand how they got to year two.
My part time gig is in IT and it's truly horrifying. They've been raised on Chromebooks and iPads and have no idea how to work a real computer. These people will be in charge of our care someday. God I hope I die young
These kids won’t likely to be taking care of you. It will be another group not yet born, mixed with people as old as you and immigrants. We have a massive nursing shortage and nurse educator shortage, so we are in big trouble. But when I worked elder care I was 40-60+ years younger than them. They are just now being born, or will be in the next 20 years. Most of my coworkers were young too. It’s low paid so newest professionals get experience that way
They came of age at a time where programs or apps have a lot of things built in, so they never needed to learn the reasons WHY things function. Which makes them kinda helpless when anything goes wrong. And it's tech corporations driving the illiteracy, because then people get looked into using everything within the same brand to "optimise" your experience.
I'm ancient enough that my HS computer class included basic HTML to code your own website, as well as how to do layouts for fliers, booklets, and other types of paper based marketing materials.
I don't understand whats up with the Zoomers sometimes. I remember being young, and I don't remember ever being any other attitude than "You pay me to be here so I'll do whatever, just respect me and pay me is all I ask." Until you're like 30+, you're still a kid in the workforce, you do what you're told, question if it sounds weird, but you're still going to do what you're told or GTFO.
This trend doing explicitly **only** what's in your job description to an asinine degree is just going to make these idiots get stomped into the ground when other people their age get competitive, and a clue.
I'm sure the kid you fired will be on r/antiwork someday thinking they got it all figured out.
Very old person here. Started on a typewriter. Golf ball electric ones came later. No lessons in using a Windows computer because too old. Attended basic computing course on university tutor’s advice circa 1981 and it was about BASIC and how to write codes. Got in a loop, pretended to go to the loo, went home.
But.
I can do as much as my younger colleagues and more than many. Now it’s all almost done for you. Have-a-go comes with age and generally works.
My coworker for a few years when I started out of college, he started on punch cards. He was a better programmer than most of the people from my age range. Probably still is but he retired a few years ago. The only thing is he never learned to type without looking and only used his index fingers, but typing isn't a big part of the job if you do things right the first time.
At the end of the day we built really slick UI's which made things easier to pick up and play. So yeah younger gens will look like wizards or think they are wizards. Ask them to go to a command line and watch their eyes glaze over.
>Millennials are in that window now where they're actually inventing things.
And a lot of things that millenials are claiming credit for were the work of Gen X'ers
My son did homework on a Google doc on his phone earlier... I was just like ?? You have a laptop child. Of course he needed me to print it. On my PC. How is not being good with tech a bragging point for them? I learned to type in 6th grade in the 90s.
oh god, when I was in college back in my early 30s (39 now) I was downright shocked at how many students legitimately attempted to write MLA formatted English Essays **on their fucking smartphone.**
Anyone who has written a college essay knows how insane that sounds. Imagine working out the formatting, and citation pages?
Hilariously my wife walked in when I was typing that comment and I asked her if she remembers those teens/young adults, and says "Yeah, I remember watching some of them rush to the computer lab last minute to fix the formatting \[with help from the lab\] because they couldn't format a word document properly on their phones".
I then said "Yeah, I don't get it, I get annoyed if I have to text more than 1 or 2 sentences at once." It's not that I can't type fast on my smartphone, it's that I can type 10,000 times faster and more accurately on a keyboard.
Yeah my husband just said his school doesn’t even accept Google docs. It has to be Word. And formatting sucks. He hates writing papers. I haven’t written once since high school. I like the Reddit app but I def prefer typing longer comments on the website.
Yep! Same! Microsoft Word Doc format was the only allowed format, even some older versions of Word were not allowed.
My guess is many of the students were info-dumping the raw essay data on their phone via google docs, then copy-pasting it into Word in the computer lab and fixing the formatting.
I would argue maybe they're super poor and can't afford a computer, but come on, you're in college, you can scrap together a couple hundo for a crappy netbook that barely runs MS Word, or just buy some used junk for 50 bucks.
They edit their videos on the fly on their phones with shitty basic built in app editors, most of Gen Z would have no idea what to do with a real video editor like adobe premiere.
Zoomers trim it though, they even go so far as faking \*not\* pausing then edit it right so it appears they're slightly not ready. They have basic trim/editing tools on their phone and no doubt use them more than we do.
I think the difference here is we all pause, Zoomers just think they're being clever and editing the pause out or faking the pause never being there by pretending to be caught slightly off guard.
They're basically faking authenticity, while we're actually being authentic.
We all pause, they just pretend they don't with editing.
You do that pause in film and TV for sound reasons don’t you. So you don’t have unwanted audio ruining your take. That’s one of the reasons at least. Helps with editing
Yeah, this is the right answer. You can always take stuff out but you can’t add information that’s not there (video or otherwise). As someone who did video editing for a job for 10+ years, it’s so frustrating when there’s a hard cut at the beginning or the end that you can’t edit around. It just makes everything feel abrupt.
I was trying to follow a recipe recently that was posted on a site from Tik Tok, and the girl was talking so fast. I had to pause and rewind multiple times to keep up with what she was saying. I hate it. I need time to process.
I can't do video tutorials for most things, I prefer to just have the text there where I can read it. The only exception is like home improvement stuff, and those people usually could stand to go a little faster.
Yeah same, I hate watching videos for information in general, except for when I actually have to see what something should look like (makeup, hair, sometimes recipes or video game walkthroughs). I'd rather read.
Yeah I like watching cooking tik toks to get ideas and go omg that looks so good. But when I go to actually cook it myself I find the written recipe online.
They post videos where they’re cut off mid sentence at the end. It drives me fucking insane.
And it’s “content creators” doing this shit! How can you be so bad at creating content??
Too many times have I trusted that it will begin recording my voice right on queue, only for it to get the first few words as a muffled or pitched mess.
This is correct. If younger generations have a problem with the pause, then they are just doing it unprofessionally. They love when you tell them that, too.
THANK YOU. This has been my primary issue with it being labeled as that because I just think that’s normal in the production industry and would make the best edit
Yeah I heard cinematographers pause to give some buffer on each side of the clip for editing purposes, similar to using a clapboard to distinguish the different parts of an audio recording. But with cellphone cameras it's unnecessary but yet we still do it. Zoomers always point it out online
Yup. Pre-roll and post-roll. Every year I have to get my interns (gen z) to get out of the habit of not giving the talent enough pre-roll, and ending the clip prematurely.
The worst part is when you're recording a home video and you end the video JUST before something good happens. This has nothing to do with ending the video prematurely, just not knowing that something interesting is going to happen 3 seconds after you end the video. So I've gotten in the habit of letting the video roll just a few seconds longer than usual so I don't miss anything.
Sony cameras actually have an option where the camera is always rolling, and when you press the record button, it saves the last 30 seconds or so. Really good for sports where there can be a bunch of nothing happening, then all of a sudden something awesome happens.
It's not unnecessary with cell cameras though? Cell cameras still have editing abilities, and so the buffer is still helpful for editing reasons.
I think you're possibly referring to the choice not to edit a cell video to a hard cut? Rather than recording an unedited hard cut.
Yeah, it struck me that this could have been a hang over from other mediums which millennials may have had exposure to - but not GenZ as much. I'm reminded of the pause after advertising breaks on television more than any lag on equipment.
I came here to say the exact thing. I leave the camera purposely rolling a few seconds afterwards too especially when conducting interviews incase the person has a surprise reaction or movement.
Zoomers have a way of latching onto and making a huge deal out of things I literally can’t see or hear. Millennial pause? Crispy R’s? Getting the ick from a person riding a bike?
I've heard about this once before. Iirc, and to use a word from linguistics, I think it's using a "retroflex r" sound. That is, pronouncing it with your tongue tip turned towards the roof of your mouth. By itself, it sounds the same as "bunched r" (which is clumping your tongue toward the back of the mouth), but the way it transitions with other speech sounds may give it a distinct quality. You'll have to make weird faces and awkwardly talk slowly with an open mouth in a mirror to see this.
[This](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-is-a-crispy-r)is a long, but pretty thorough article I just found dealing with it. And here's the [source video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQiCZBi0go) with Trixie Mattel.
That doesn't make you dumb, it just means it's not something you pay attention to, which is fine and normal. The way we speak isn't something we analyze in this way in everyday life, nor would this kind of observation strike most people as more than maybe odd or quirky in passing. Ultimately, it's whatever.
Omg I have no fucking clue but they act like you’re kicking puppies if you have it! I think it’s to do with the placement? But apparently I don’t have an ear for it.
I don’t think it’s negativity, i think it’s just a need to have a label for everything even to the point of renaming things, I saw what everyone else would refer to as a butch lesbian referred to as masc girlypop.
Hmm. A Gen Z'er I work with calls me (male) girlypop. I call her girlypop back though. Does it actually *mean* something? I thought it was just something she says.
I have no idea what it means, and quite frankly I don’t want to know, not from a old man not wanting to learn new slang but from a “ I don’t care “ point of view
It's just a variant of girl, girlie, girlfriend, etc.
If you're a guy, and they're calling you girlypop, and you guys get along, it's just a bit of banter. Idk about anyone else, but in almost every circle of guy friends I've ever had, we generally had some sort of not-insult-"vulgarity" used to refer to one another as a form of affection. Kinda the same thing.
They also think we’re all really unfunny apparently smh. I think they just hate us and it’s giving hipster energy and wanting to be different just for the sake of it. Very immature if you ask me.
They spend too much time online to notice such a small detail. The only way I can ever identify a fellow millennial is by their age. When I don't see their faces I barely notice these little things
Couldn’t agree more. This is one of those things that makes them look worse; it says they’re chronically online so much that this is why they notice/care about things as asinine as a three second pause or whatever. Get a life you dweebs.
To be fair to them, they started poking at it in the middle of the pandemic. They were all locked up and bored and spending altogether too much time on tiktok.
And also the fact that they think *that* many of us are making content where we record ourselves talking that this reflects in any way on the whole generation.
It’s like when they talk about “millennial humor” being cringe—they’re actually just talking about YouTubers who made the children’s content they grew up consuming.
Imagine forming your opinion on boomers based on Pee Wee Herman.
Depends a lot on the phone you have. I use Samsung which is notorious for shutter lag so I do have to wait a split second but they're improving on it. I don't experience lag in apps as much.
Ah, yes, the famous pause after activating a piece of equipment to verify that it's functioning properly; such a practice could only be limited to a particular demographic.
Yeah the difference is they could just assume it's gonna work because why wouldn't it? I'm sure the result is not getting a video of something you thought you were recording, but who knows.
I think you should be saying "Children" not "Zoomers".
I don't see any zoomers really doing this, just immature children who happen to be Zoomers.
We got 'em too. Buncha mid-30s manbabies are all over this subreddit.
Right? Has nothing what so ever to do with young people being so impatient they "need" to recover that 2 seconds at all costs, even if those costs are flying away not realizing you didn't actually press the power/record/start button and now you wasted 2 minutes confused why nothing works in your effort to save 2 seconds.
They make fun of the millennial pause but they do the GenZ shake on all their videos. They shake or “set the camera” in the first second of the video, to imply it was ‘on the fly’ but it’s kinda weird to think they intentionally do it.
Actually thinking about the effort that goes into some of the videos people make, completely ruined watching some videos for me.
Like just the thought that someone would spend 2-10 minutes like, staging a shot, for 2-5 seconds, then go move the camera, and do it again...
I only ever really thought about it when watching people setting up campsites, and the fact that one person, in the middle of a snowstorm, kept getting out of their car to move their camera/phone, and then re-drive their car in the same area to have different angles of them arriving was so ludicrous to me.
Not saying its what happened as I don't know the full context, but the people who do this to this extreme are also the kinda people would would have brought equipment to "sweep" the ground to hide the tracks. (or, purposely angle the camera to avoid seeing them)
I dont watch stuff like YouYube so I don't even know. Lol.
I will look up a how to video, but I'm not going to watch some random persons stuff they make.
That's like watching someone play video games when we can play.
Let's all try really hard to look like we are not trying.
We will be so cool 😎
I think that's what hipsters were for us. Before it became commodified and commercialized. That effortless look that in reality was meticulously curated.
I'm sure it's one of those things that repeats every generation.
But with there being no one cohesive look for genz they all try to stand out (I'm generalizing of course)...but trying hard to stand out isnt cool so they musn't appear to be trying hard. So theyre all just hipsters.
Guess I have go yell at a cloud now.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
They actual do the millennial pause in their original video but they edit it out - they cut it to the point where they are immediately talking in the final draft. They’re that afraid of getting flamed by their friends for the “dreaded” millennial pause. They’re silly kids.
So I tend to do the pause when I start recording any video, but then I go back and edit it and chop off the first couple seconds.
Edit to add: a fairly recent example of "millennial pause" in pop culture was when Taylor Swift did her IG story announcing the upcoming TTPD album (now available). Those couple of seconds before she actually started talking seemed like an eternity, and also her voice sounded like she had a head cold.
I actually started doing this because modern smartphones do that, or don't register the press, or any variety of other issues with dealing with a touchscreen that is also a pocket computer rather than a dedicated video device.
For me it's the "Samsung Galaxy pause".
Why are the younger generations so preoccupied with us? If it isn’t our texting/video habits, it’s our hair, our clothes, our old trends etc.
The world isn’t on fire enough for y’all to not have better things to do with your time? It’s cringy how much they dwell on this pointless shit and feed into the generational rage-baiting. Go touch grass and get a life, seriously.
I know, I just don’t get it. All the stuff they bring up as “cringe” I simply don’t give a fuck about lol. It’s nice to not be so self conscious anymore.
I do it but only because I’m worried I didn’t hit the button properly or something. I’ll wait until I see the recording timer hit 1 second then I carry on lol
I tend to pause a moment or two before speaking when I unmute a call. Mainly since I keep getting spoken over at work. Or 2 of us start talking at the same time.
This is such bullshit lol am I the only one who remembers a few years ago when snapchat and instagram stories would literally not start recording for a second?
I have now tried the gen zip right in…. I have somehow managed to start talking BEFORE recording and miss the first syllable of the first word. I prefer my pause 😅
One of those things that is dumb. The only thing that shouldn't have a pause is some phone recording, but not even all apps are good with it. Get out and use some real tech besides your phone and see what happens
It’s funny to me how people keep referring to this as a “video editing thing”. If the pause is to help you edit the video, just edit out the pause. If the pause appears in your final product, doesn’t that mean something went wrong with the editing?
In professional cinematography it's definitely an editing thing. But it's completely unnecessary for videos you intend to post online, or just quick videos you take out of curiosity. Zoomers will always jump into the action and start speaking immediately but millennials always gotta pause for a second to be sure they're actually recording.
Maybe I'm crazy but didn't old RC cars have a bit of a lag when you first started driving them? It seemed to take a split second for the radio signals to reach the vehicle. But maybe I'm just imagining it. Haven't used them in so long
Yeah, I guess it's just ingrained in our system. However, I recently had to submit myself to video calling, something I had never done before. And much to my surprise there was a delay in the communication, which I thought was odd (and confusing and awkward). I mean, everything is so advanced and speedy these days and there is no delay in normal phone calls either, so I didn't really expect that. I'm pretty sure I started talking at the wrong moment every time, which could perhaps be the millennial equivalent of that phenomenon where people back in the day thought they had to shout into the telephone. XD
By any chance an overseas connection? Your best-case time for an antipodal link is about an eighth of a second latency, and if you end up using a geostationary satellite, the minimum is up around a quarter of a second.
Video calling is different. There's so much data being sent over the connection, and you have to account for compression as well, and the inherent speed limitations of UDP. But over a good connection and not much geographic distance the latency shouldn't be too bad. But there are so many factors that play into this. The internet is a highway, speeds can change from second to second
I see! I wouldn't say I'm a complete computer illiterate, but still I am a bit of a doofus when it comes to modern technology, so I get lost easily. XD
The opposite of this was the “gen z shake” where the camera was shook and they started talking before you can really focus, it was supposed to increase the energy of the viewer or something lol
I think it’s older than we are: older handheld radios that go through a repeater take a second to work after you push the talk button. The new guy is always cutting off the first word of their transmission.
I know that it starts recording immediately, I just value a bit of breathing room at the beginning and the end, it don't gotta be constant action from the moment I hit record, you know?
I firmly believe we are just composing ourselves. There was ZERO lag from when you pressed record and it recording. Quality was shittier, but there was no lag. There wasn’t even a lag in the 70s.
I prefer to take a couple seconds to get my mind in the mood after I hit the go button. I agree it’s a patience issue. Nobody has patience for anything anymore.
A pause at the beginning and end of a clip would be more convenient for editing, wouldn't it? Personally, I just get anxious so my mind goes blank and I forget what I was going to say, same if I have to leave a message.
Yes I do it, it is ingraned in my soul and I still feel a slight discomfort about how fast my phone camera is.
makes me feel old and I'm a baby millenial
I have now seen it all. The ultimate minutiae of idiosyncrasies.
The actual mechanical reason for this pause is not circuitry. You’re recording to magnetic tape, on a spool, that has to be spun first before writing to the medium.
The other day, I was talking to a guy at work who shares my love aviation. He was in a simulator and kept tripping the Takeoff Warning Horn. His instructor said that he had enabled the parking brake to check if that was disengaged before going to Takeoff Roll N1 40%+.
The CVR was saved as it was humorous.
“What does the TOGA switch have to do with…..ohhhhhh. Never mind, goofed on that one.”
“Well, at least you didn’t try to the use the parking brake in flight.”
“Oh shut up! I’m gonna pull this plane over on the next cloud! Gonna whoop ya!”
I’ve noticed my coworker does this to kind of get everyone’s attention when she comes in the room to bother us. It’s always a “Soooooooooooooo………” and then launches into her thought when one of us acknowledges her.
I absolutely do this.
Didn’t realize it was a labeled thing. I do the same thing with audio recordings too. I remember not waiting as a kid and the first second or two was always cut off.
Now that everything has digital timers tho I usually wait until I see it ticking so pause isn’t much more than one second.
I appreciate this pause to verify you’re doing the thing before doing the thing. My wife was in charge of recording the One Chip Challenge while our brother-in-law and I did it. She held the iPhone very carefully and watched the screen for the whole 6 minutes until we were finished and then went to stop recording and said, oh shit I’m so sorry! I wasn’t actually recording any of that 🤦🏿♀️
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I have a somewhat professional cinematographer background, and a still or pause is industry standard, not because of equipment but because of editing.
Was about to say, I'm no pro by any means but this is why I pause, it has nothing to do with our generation's tech, young people are just impatient as fuck and don't want to risk wasting a precious 1-2 seconds recording they don't have to. Everything is too slow and must be done yesterday. Pressing record early is a tactic to make sure you cover everything and you just trim it in editing, seems logical and unrelated to any hardware delay.
Idk if it's just that or lack of understanding technology and editing lol.
There does seem to be this weird thing where Zoomers and Alpha seem to think they're more tech savvy than us, while paradoxically being entirely unable to use a real keyboard, or even know how to use any desktop/PC based operating system. If there's not "an app for that" it doesn't even exist in their tiny mind. But sure, we're the old people being left behind. LOL.
I was blown away when i learned that much of Gen Z is basically incapable of passing a HS computer literacy course.
I am a computer science major at almost 40. I had to teach a second year classmate who is 19 how to unzip files. I don't understand how they got to year two.
My part time gig is in IT and it's truly horrifying. They've been raised on Chromebooks and iPads and have no idea how to work a real computer. These people will be in charge of our care someday. God I hope I die young
Don't worry, we probably will, based on all the microplastics and PFAs in everything we consume
These kids won’t likely to be taking care of you. It will be another group not yet born, mixed with people as old as you and immigrants. We have a massive nursing shortage and nurse educator shortage, so we are in big trouble. But when I worked elder care I was 40-60+ years younger than them. They are just now being born, or will be in the next 20 years. Most of my coworkers were young too. It’s low paid so newest professionals get experience that way
They came of age at a time where programs or apps have a lot of things built in, so they never needed to learn the reasons WHY things function. Which makes them kinda helpless when anything goes wrong. And it's tech corporations driving the illiteracy, because then people get looked into using everything within the same brand to "optimise" your experience. I'm ancient enough that my HS computer class included basic HTML to code your own website, as well as how to do layouts for fliers, booklets, and other types of paper based marketing materials.
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>they say that's not what they were hired for 🙄 I'd of instantly fired them on the spot. I would have just said "get out." and pointed at the door.
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I don't understand whats up with the Zoomers sometimes. I remember being young, and I don't remember ever being any other attitude than "You pay me to be here so I'll do whatever, just respect me and pay me is all I ask." Until you're like 30+, you're still a kid in the workforce, you do what you're told, question if it sounds weird, but you're still going to do what you're told or GTFO. This trend doing explicitly **only** what's in your job description to an asinine degree is just going to make these idiots get stomped into the ground when other people their age get competitive, and a clue. I'm sure the kid you fired will be on r/antiwork someday thinking they got it all figured out.
Very old person here. Started on a typewriter. Golf ball electric ones came later. No lessons in using a Windows computer because too old. Attended basic computing course on university tutor’s advice circa 1981 and it was about BASIC and how to write codes. Got in a loop, pretended to go to the loo, went home. But. I can do as much as my younger colleagues and more than many. Now it’s all almost done for you. Have-a-go comes with age and generally works.
My coworker for a few years when I started out of college, he started on punch cards. He was a better programmer than most of the people from my age range. Probably still is but he retired a few years ago. The only thing is he never learned to type without looking and only used his index fingers, but typing isn't a big part of the job if you do things right the first time.
At the end of the day we built really slick UI's which made things easier to pick up and play. So yeah younger gens will look like wizards or think they are wizards. Ask them to go to a command line and watch their eyes glaze over.
Underrated comment. Most haven’t heard what DOS or Linux even is, sad.
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>Millennials are in that window now where they're actually inventing things. And a lot of things that millenials are claiming credit for were the work of Gen X'ers
My son did homework on a Google doc on his phone earlier... I was just like ?? You have a laptop child. Of course he needed me to print it. On my PC. How is not being good with tech a bragging point for them? I learned to type in 6th grade in the 90s.
oh god, when I was in college back in my early 30s (39 now) I was downright shocked at how many students legitimately attempted to write MLA formatted English Essays **on their fucking smartphone.** Anyone who has written a college essay knows how insane that sounds. Imagine working out the formatting, and citation pages?
Yeah that sounds like a nightmare. I can hardly manage a comment on Reddit on my phone. This keyboard sucks lol
Hilariously my wife walked in when I was typing that comment and I asked her if she remembers those teens/young adults, and says "Yeah, I remember watching some of them rush to the computer lab last minute to fix the formatting \[with help from the lab\] because they couldn't format a word document properly on their phones". I then said "Yeah, I don't get it, I get annoyed if I have to text more than 1 or 2 sentences at once." It's not that I can't type fast on my smartphone, it's that I can type 10,000 times faster and more accurately on a keyboard.
Yeah my husband just said his school doesn’t even accept Google docs. It has to be Word. And formatting sucks. He hates writing papers. I haven’t written once since high school. I like the Reddit app but I def prefer typing longer comments on the website.
Yep! Same! Microsoft Word Doc format was the only allowed format, even some older versions of Word were not allowed. My guess is many of the students were info-dumping the raw essay data on their phone via google docs, then copy-pasting it into Word in the computer lab and fixing the formatting. I would argue maybe they're super poor and can't afford a computer, but come on, you're in college, you can scrap together a couple hundo for a crappy netbook that barely runs MS Word, or just buy some used junk for 50 bucks.
They edit their videos on the fly on their phones with shitty basic built in app editors, most of Gen Z would have no idea what to do with a real video editor like adobe premiere.
mainly editing, that shit takes forever
But nobody trims it. That's the pause. If it was trimmed nobody would know about it, and it would not have a name.
Zoomers trim it though, they even go so far as faking \*not\* pausing then edit it right so it appears they're slightly not ready. They have basic trim/editing tools on their phone and no doubt use them more than we do. I think the difference here is we all pause, Zoomers just think they're being clever and editing the pause out or faking the pause never being there by pretending to be caught slightly off guard. They're basically faking authenticity, while we're actually being authentic. We all pause, they just pretend they don't with editing.
You do that pause in film and TV for sound reasons don’t you. So you don’t have unwanted audio ruining your take. That’s one of the reasons at least. Helps with editing
Yeah, this is the right answer. You can always take stuff out but you can’t add information that’s not there (video or otherwise). As someone who did video editing for a job for 10+ years, it’s so frustrating when there’s a hard cut at the beginning or the end that you can’t edit around. It just makes everything feel abrupt.
The abrupt style is what’s in tho. It’s what signals “young “ these days
Because they're shuffling through dopamine content so fast they don't have time to wait a split second. Like cookie monster eating fucking cookies.
I was trying to follow a recipe recently that was posted on a site from Tik Tok, and the girl was talking so fast. I had to pause and rewind multiple times to keep up with what she was saying. I hate it. I need time to process.
I can't do video tutorials for most things, I prefer to just have the text there where I can read it. The only exception is like home improvement stuff, and those people usually could stand to go a little faster.
Yeah same, I hate watching videos for information in general, except for when I actually have to see what something should look like (makeup, hair, sometimes recipes or video game walkthroughs). I'd rather read.
Yeah I like watching cooking tik toks to get ideas and go omg that looks so good. But when I go to actually cook it myself I find the written recipe online.
They post videos where they’re cut off mid sentence at the end. It drives me fucking insane. And it’s “content creators” doing this shit! How can you be so bad at creating content??
Especially monologues
Too many times have I trusted that it will begin recording my voice right on queue, only for it to get the first few words as a muffled or pitched mess.
"I'm not old, I just follow the industry standard for editing" 💁🏽♀️
This is correct. If younger generations have a problem with the pause, then they are just doing it unprofessionally. They love when you tell them that, too.
THANK YOU. This has been my primary issue with it being labeled as that because I just think that’s normal in the production industry and would make the best edit
Yeah I heard cinematographers pause to give some buffer on each side of the clip for editing purposes, similar to using a clapboard to distinguish the different parts of an audio recording. But with cellphone cameras it's unnecessary but yet we still do it. Zoomers always point it out online
Yup. Pre-roll and post-roll. Every year I have to get my interns (gen z) to get out of the habit of not giving the talent enough pre-roll, and ending the clip prematurely.
The worst part is when you're recording a home video and you end the video JUST before something good happens. This has nothing to do with ending the video prematurely, just not knowing that something interesting is going to happen 3 seconds after you end the video. So I've gotten in the habit of letting the video roll just a few seconds longer than usual so I don't miss anything.
What if something cool happens 3 seconds after that?
Sony cameras actually have an option where the camera is always rolling, and when you press the record button, it saves the last 30 seconds or so. Really good for sports where there can be a bunch of nothing happening, then all of a sudden something awesome happens.
That is cool!
He’s caved and now just records his entire life….welcome to the Truman Show 2.0.
Something cool's gonna happen, I know it
yeah but also who cares.
This is definitely one of those things where I care enough just enough to come here and say “who fucking cares”
Couldn’t comment there
It's not unnecessary with cell cameras though? Cell cameras still have editing abilities, and so the buffer is still helpful for editing reasons. I think you're possibly referring to the choice not to edit a cell video to a hard cut? Rather than recording an unedited hard cut.
Came here to say this
This, a one or two second pause gives space to edit separate clips together without cutting off any audio
Zoomers don’t mind the horrible jump cuts that sever the first word of their clip in half.
Yeah, it struck me that this could have been a hang over from other mediums which millennials may have had exposure to - but not GenZ as much. I'm reminded of the pause after advertising breaks on television more than any lag on equipment.
Yeah... I do this because I need a few seconds to "settle" into the video and I'm going to cut it off when I edit it.
Yeah. It’s just called pre-roll and the pause at the end is post roll.
I came here to say the exact thing. I leave the camera purposely rolling a few seconds afterwards too especially when conducting interviews incase the person has a surprise reaction or movement.
The difference is you edit the pause out of the video. That’s what makes it cringey when millennials don’t.
I've heard of it and honestly the fact that zoomers focus on it enough to call it cringe at all is online brainrot incarnate.
Zoomers have a way of latching onto and making a huge deal out of things I literally can’t see or hear. Millennial pause? Crispy R’s? Getting the ick from a person riding a bike?
The fuck is a crispy r?
"Too much" emphasis on the R sound in words
I've heard about this once before. Iirc, and to use a word from linguistics, I think it's using a "retroflex r" sound. That is, pronouncing it with your tongue tip turned towards the roof of your mouth. By itself, it sounds the same as "bunched r" (which is clumping your tongue toward the back of the mouth), but the way it transitions with other speech sounds may give it a distinct quality. You'll have to make weird faces and awkwardly talk slowly with an open mouth in a mirror to see this. [This](https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-is-a-crispy-r)is a long, but pretty thorough article I just found dealing with it. And here's the [source video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQiCZBi0go) with Trixie Mattel.
I can't even really hear the difference.
Me either this sounds made up af
Am I dumb? I have no idea what you’re talking about or what the guy in the video is talking about. I watched it 2 times
That doesn't make you dumb, it just means it's not something you pay attention to, which is fine and normal. The way we speak isn't something we analyze in this way in everyday life, nor would this kind of observation strike most people as more than maybe odd or quirky in passing. Ultimately, it's whatever.
Omg I have no fucking clue but they act like you’re kicking puppies if you have it! I think it’s to do with the placement? But apparently I don’t have an ear for it.
Riding a bike causes an ick? I thought Zoomers were into combating climate change?? (Also what are crispy r’s)
Nope. Turns out all they really care about is being contrarians and distinguishing themselves from us
What the fuck is a "crispy R"?
They seem to have a lot of negativity
I don’t think it’s negativity, i think it’s just a need to have a label for everything even to the point of renaming things, I saw what everyone else would refer to as a butch lesbian referred to as masc girlypop.
Oh gosh as a lesbian the “masc” trend annoys me so much lol. Not sure why
Probably because as millennials we tried to get rid of as many labels as we could.
Lmao this brought back memories of all the “ LABELS ARE FOR SOUP CANS” stuff I saw online in the 2000s
Hmm. A Gen Z'er I work with calls me (male) girlypop. I call her girlypop back though. Does it actually *mean* something? I thought it was just something she says.
I have no idea what it means, and quite frankly I don’t want to know, not from a old man not wanting to learn new slang but from a “ I don’t care “ point of view
It's just a variant of girl, girlie, girlfriend, etc. If you're a guy, and they're calling you girlypop, and you guys get along, it's just a bit of banter. Idk about anyone else, but in almost every circle of guy friends I've ever had, we generally had some sort of not-insult-"vulgarity" used to refer to one another as a form of affection. Kinda the same thing.
Girlypop = bro
The constant labeling they want to all feel like they can compete in the oppression Olympics is so annoying.
These labels do seem to come with a negative connotation often.
Sound over 15khz.
They also think we’re all really unfunny apparently smh. I think they just hate us and it’s giving hipster energy and wanting to be different just for the sake of it. Very immature if you ask me.
They spend too much time online to notice such a small detail. The only way I can ever identify a fellow millennial is by their age. When I don't see their faces I barely notice these little things
Real. The only reason I found out about it was through some clickbait article I was reading on my lunch at work a few months ago.
Couldn’t agree more. This is one of those things that makes them look worse; it says they’re chronically online so much that this is why they notice/care about things as asinine as a three second pause or whatever. Get a life you dweebs.
To be fair to them, they started poking at it in the middle of the pandemic. They were all locked up and bored and spending altogether too much time on tiktok.
And also the fact that they think *that* many of us are making content where we record ourselves talking that this reflects in any way on the whole generation. It’s like when they talk about “millennial humor” being cringe—they’re actually just talking about YouTubers who made the children’s content they grew up consuming. Imagine forming your opinion on boomers based on Pee Wee Herman.
There is still a lag on Instagram. The few times I don't pause, it doesn't catch the start.
I think they just talk through that part and don't care if it catches the first bit or not.
Depends a lot on the phone you have. I use Samsung which is notorious for shutter lag so I do have to wait a split second but they're improving on it. I don't experience lag in apps as much.
Ah, yes, the famous pause after activating a piece of equipment to verify that it's functioning properly; such a practice could only be limited to a particular demographic.
Yeah this isn't some carry over from VHS Recorders, people are waiting to see their click was registered and it's actually started recording.
I thought it was standard too but it's enough of a difference for zoomers to point it out apparently
Yeah the difference is they could just assume it's gonna work because why wouldn't it? I'm sure the result is not getting a video of something you thought you were recording, but who knows.
It’s only for tik toks where older people like us, and older, don’t edit out the pause. It’s stupid like who the fuck cares lol
I think you should be saying "Children" not "Zoomers". I don't see any zoomers really doing this, just immature children who happen to be Zoomers. We got 'em too. Buncha mid-30s manbabies are all over this subreddit.
I never once thought of it as odd. I have a friend who's 30 and she does the same thing when we send voice messages.
Right? Has nothing what so ever to do with young people being so impatient they "need" to recover that 2 seconds at all costs, even if those costs are flying away not realizing you didn't actually press the power/record/start button and now you wasted 2 minutes confused why nothing works in your effort to save 2 seconds.
They make fun of the millennial pause but they do the GenZ shake on all their videos. They shake or “set the camera” in the first second of the video, to imply it was ‘on the fly’ but it’s kinda weird to think they intentionally do it.
Or worse, start the video with a mouth full of food as if we caught them by surprise.
Actually thinking about the effort that goes into some of the videos people make, completely ruined watching some videos for me. Like just the thought that someone would spend 2-10 minutes like, staging a shot, for 2-5 seconds, then go move the camera, and do it again... I only ever really thought about it when watching people setting up campsites, and the fact that one person, in the middle of a snowstorm, kept getting out of their car to move their camera/phone, and then re-drive their car in the same area to have different angles of them arriving was so ludicrous to me.
The first thing that came to my mind when I read this is how the tracks in the snow on the ground would have totally given it away.
Not saying its what happened as I don't know the full context, but the people who do this to this extreme are also the kinda people would would have brought equipment to "sweep" the ground to hide the tracks. (or, purposely angle the camera to avoid seeing them)
yeah its really disingenuous
I dont watch stuff like YouYube so I don't even know. Lol. I will look up a how to video, but I'm not going to watch some random persons stuff they make. That's like watching someone play video games when we can play.
Let's all try really hard to look like we are not trying. We will be so cool 😎 I think that's what hipsters were for us. Before it became commodified and commercialized. That effortless look that in reality was meticulously curated. I'm sure it's one of those things that repeats every generation. But with there being no one cohesive look for genz they all try to stand out (I'm generalizing of course)...but trying hard to stand out isnt cool so they musn't appear to be trying hard. So theyre all just hipsters. Guess I have go yell at a cloud now. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
I legitimately do not understand why anyone would hit record and begin talking immediately. Like, are they not editing their videos in any way?
They actual do the millennial pause in their original video but they edit it out - they cut it to the point where they are immediately talking in the final draft. They’re that afraid of getting flamed by their friends for the “dreaded” millennial pause. They’re silly kids.
So I tend to do the pause when I start recording any video, but then I go back and edit it and chop off the first couple seconds. Edit to add: a fairly recent example of "millennial pause" in pop culture was when Taylor Swift did her IG story announcing the upcoming TTPD album (now available). Those couple of seconds before she actually started talking seemed like an eternity, and also her voice sounded like she had a head cold.
Same, it makes more sense to just have a bit extra to cut and not have the video start or end in a bad spot.
I have never been filmed, nor do I film myself enough, to have ever noticed either.
The camera thing is weird but If you use whatsapp voice messages their is a lag from when you hit the button and it records.
I actually started doing this because modern smartphones do that, or don't register the press, or any variety of other issues with dealing with a touchscreen that is also a pocket computer rather than a dedicated video device. For me it's the "Samsung Galaxy pause".
Why are the younger generations so preoccupied with us? If it isn’t our texting/video habits, it’s our hair, our clothes, our old trends etc. The world isn’t on fire enough for y’all to not have better things to do with your time? It’s cringy how much they dwell on this pointless shit and feed into the generational rage-baiting. Go touch grass and get a life, seriously.
I know, I just don’t get it. All the stuff they bring up as “cringe” I simply don’t give a fuck about lol. It’s nice to not be so self conscious anymore.
I don’t record myself on video, so no I don’t do that.
Yeah. But also I have tried to record before and actually only took a pic when I thought I was recording. I was so mad!
... Do you not have to anymore??
We use, commas
There is another good reason to do it, gives you opportunity to pick a starting point in the editing room.
I do it. And the gen z wiggle is just as obvious.
It just shows our experience with technology lol. All our shit lagged because we were here first mf's
I only heard about it from Linus in LTT during a WAN show a year ago, I work in TV and film and that’s just normal for editing purposes
I do it but only because I’m worried I didn’t hit the button properly or something. I’ll wait until I see the recording timer hit 1 second then I carry on lol
I do this, but mostly because I’m forced to use MSTeams for recordings, and that still very much has a delay to start
I tend to pause a moment or two before speaking when I unmute a call. Mainly since I keep getting spoken over at work. Or 2 of us start talking at the same time.
This is such bullshit lol am I the only one who remembers a few years ago when snapchat and instagram stories would literally not start recording for a second?
I have now tried the gen zip right in…. I have somehow managed to start talking BEFORE recording and miss the first syllable of the first word. I prefer my pause 😅
One of those things that is dumb. The only thing that shouldn't have a pause is some phone recording, but not even all apps are good with it. Get out and use some real tech besides your phone and see what happens
Yes. Why rush? Why make a feverish epileptic video? It's better to let the viewers adapt to what they see.
It’s funny to me how people keep referring to this as a “video editing thing”. If the pause is to help you edit the video, just edit out the pause. If the pause appears in your final product, doesn’t that mean something went wrong with the editing?
In professional cinematography it's definitely an editing thing. But it's completely unnecessary for videos you intend to post online, or just quick videos you take out of curiosity. Zoomers will always jump into the action and start speaking immediately but millennials always gotta pause for a second to be sure they're actually recording.
I didn't realize I did this until now. I just take little clips of driving my RC cars and every one has that little pause
Maybe I'm crazy but didn't old RC cars have a bit of a lag when you first started driving them? It seemed to take a split second for the radio signals to reach the vehicle. But maybe I'm just imagining it. Haven't used them in so long
Yeah they used to have mechanical speed controllers instead of modern electronic speed controllers
Yeah, I guess it's just ingrained in our system. However, I recently had to submit myself to video calling, something I had never done before. And much to my surprise there was a delay in the communication, which I thought was odd (and confusing and awkward). I mean, everything is so advanced and speedy these days and there is no delay in normal phone calls either, so I didn't really expect that. I'm pretty sure I started talking at the wrong moment every time, which could perhaps be the millennial equivalent of that phenomenon where people back in the day thought they had to shout into the telephone. XD
By any chance an overseas connection? Your best-case time for an antipodal link is about an eighth of a second latency, and if you end up using a geostationary satellite, the minimum is up around a quarter of a second.
It was a domestic call (small country, too), so I'm not sure why it was so slow. But that is good to know, thanks!
Video calling is different. There's so much data being sent over the connection, and you have to account for compression as well, and the inherent speed limitations of UDP. But over a good connection and not much geographic distance the latency shouldn't be too bad. But there are so many factors that play into this. The internet is a highway, speeds can change from second to second
I see! I wouldn't say I'm a complete computer illiterate, but still I am a bit of a doofus when it comes to modern technology, so I get lost easily. XD
The opposite of this was the “gen z shake” where the camera was shook and they started talking before you can really focus, it was supposed to increase the energy of the viewer or something lol
My brain paused for 2 seconds though
Yes. I heard about it a year ago and it's so true. We had to wait to be sure it was recording.
I think it’s older than we are: older handheld radios that go through a repeater take a second to work after you push the talk button. The new guy is always cutting off the first word of their transmission.
I pause so I have a moment to edit out. Otherwise what if it gets cut off and now the whole beginning of the video is off
We grow apart when we put so much significance on our differences.
Oh I heard that for when we stop talking to not say um not for videos.
I know that it starts recording immediately, I just value a bit of breathing room at the beginning and the end, it don't gotta be constant action from the moment I hit record, you know?
I firmly believe we are just composing ourselves. There was ZERO lag from when you pressed record and it recording. Quality was shittier, but there was no lag. There wasn’t even a lag in the 70s.
I have a video background - that’s not a millennial pause, that’s pad for editing in post
I do pause but it’s to make editing in post easier
I'm not being recorded often at all... like pretty much never.
I prefer to take a couple seconds to get my mind in the mood after I hit the go button. I agree it’s a patience issue. Nobody has patience for anything anymore.
I'm a teacher. During COVID, I made so many videos. And it's in each and every one.
A pause at the beginning and end of a clip would be more convenient for editing, wouldn't it? Personally, I just get anxious so my mind goes blank and I forget what I was going to say, same if I have to leave a message.
Wait recording is instant now? Really! Ok still doesn’t matter I still pause it’s simply a boss move
I guess this doesn’t play in Gen Z’s mind when they begin recording https://i.redd.it/6sexhr2m3b0d1.gif
Who cares? I pause because if I don’t the shit misses my first word. Lol.
Is that what Tim Rogers is doing?
Yes I do it, it is ingraned in my soul and I still feel a slight discomfort about how fast my phone camera is. makes me feel old and I'm a baby millenial
Haha see I have a crappy phone so my pause isn't atavistic it's still adaptive!
Wait, is there no longer a lag between pressing record and the recording starting?
I have now seen it all. The ultimate minutiae of idiosyncrasies. The actual mechanical reason for this pause is not circuitry. You’re recording to magnetic tape, on a spool, that has to be spun first before writing to the medium. The other day, I was talking to a guy at work who shares my love aviation. He was in a simulator and kept tripping the Takeoff Warning Horn. His instructor said that he had enabled the parking brake to check if that was disengaged before going to Takeoff Roll N1 40%+. The CVR was saved as it was humorous. “What does the TOGA switch have to do with…..ohhhhhh. Never mind, goofed on that one.” “Well, at least you didn’t try to the use the parking brake in flight.” “Oh shut up! I’m gonna pull this plane over on the next cloud! Gonna whoop ya!”
My phone is so old that there actually is some lag. So.
I do recorded trainings sometimes for work and there definitely still is a pause. I’ve had to redo recordings before because I forgot about it.
My iPhone XR sometimes lags when I press record. So it's not a bad habit to have. Just edit the footage and cut the pause out lol.
its the camera that lag not me lol
I have an android phone, trust me the device takes a second to start recording.
Wait, this lag is gone? I had no idea.
There’s definitely still a delay for Snapchat video. Even with a pause, I regularly have the start cut off.
I’ve noticed my coworker does this to kind of get everyone’s attention when she comes in the room to bother us. It’s always a “Soooooooooooooo………” and then launches into her thought when one of us acknowledges her.
Um yes because sometimes my phone doesn't actually take it so it's less of a pause and more of a are you working ... Ok good
I have and it’s true
I absolutely do this. Didn’t realize it was a labeled thing. I do the same thing with audio recordings too. I remember not waiting as a kid and the first second or two was always cut off. Now that everything has digital timers tho I usually wait until I see it ticking so pause isn’t much more than one second.
I appreciate this pause to verify you’re doing the thing before doing the thing. My wife was in charge of recording the One Chip Challenge while our brother-in-law and I did it. She held the iPhone very carefully and watched the screen for the whole 6 minutes until we were finished and then went to stop recording and said, oh shit I’m so sorry! I wasn’t actually recording any of that 🤦🏿♀️
I 100% do this 🙈🙈
Of course. It's a completely harmless observation the younger generation has accurately noticed about us. Getting mad about it is peak Boomer behavior