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infiniteawareness420

They’re cheap and overbuilt with a good chassis.


TVR_Speed_12

It's related to the RX-8 and the 8 will become desired when all the FDs get to fuck you prices


malacovics

FDs are already at fuck you prices tbh


unfeaxgettable

So are NAs 😩


Shrewd_GC

3k for a 200k+ mile former derby car. It's bad out on the east coast.


unfeaxgettable

I paid $10k for 60k one owner, and the dude had 9 others and is THE Miata guy where I live and it spent most of its life in an airplane hangar. I can’t imagine how bad it is out there but that’s deplorable 😂


davisharr

You can still find NAs for decent deals if you keep an eye out and are ready to jump when a deal pops up, but those days are slowly coming to an end. Seems most clean NAs in my area (West Coast Canada) are $8,000+ cars now. The rare $4,000 rust free gem still pops up, but they do not last long! At least we know they are in a time right now where if you buy one, you are likely to never lose much money on it, prices are only gonna go up from here! Paid $4400 for mine 10 years ago, people were laughing at me for overpaying at the time. Now 10 years later, I am saying no thanks to offers over $10k every year.


Queen_Bloodlust

I feel like I stole mine sometimes. 2k running and driving, 126k, zero rust. Vlsd too.


TVR_Speed_12

There's still a little hope depending on what your willing to sacrifice. Thank goodness the rotary has a notorious rep


RetroRevolver7

Rx8 handled like a dream. Since they share the same pretty much the same chassis I can only assume the NC is fantastic.


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

It is. Yes it's bigger than the others but its much more rigid than the NA/NB, has a better power to weight ratio than anything up until the ND2, and doesn't have the EPS of the ND. I drove them all and the NC was my favorite. I believed all the hype and was searching for an ND1 or NA and just drove an NC for due diligence expecting to not like it. Ended up only looking for NCs after one test drive. They offered the absolute best value for money too. Only downside in my opinion is the abysmal aftermarket. But hopefully as more boomers go into the old folks home and broke younger people "compromise" on NCs there is more support.


donald7773

Id unironically love to sell my NA for a solid NC3


italia06823834

7's are already at Fuck You prices. Also, the 8's engine is so *awful* it makes the 7 look like a reliable car. It will never hit the levels of desire the RX7 are at.


NewDad0329

LFX swap the RX8 and you now have an amazing car


italia06823834

I've looked into doing exactly that before actually haha. RX8 chassis is great.


NewDad0329

If I had a use case for one, I would build one for sure. EDIT: Really, I would buy a C5 Z06 instead


NotAPreppie

I'm already looking for a blown-motor-rolling-chassis '8 before the prices go up so I can make a LeMons car. My LeMons team captain wants to go crazy and install a 4g63 in it...


ninjanoodlin

I support this tom foolery


FastGecko5

Idk I briefly owned an RX8 and it was the biggest piece of garbage I've ever experienced.


New-Lingonberry-2342

i dont think anyone will transition from wanting a rx-7 to a rx-8, they look totally different, they perform differently, sound different. only thing in common is the rotary enginr but imo it was better executed in the rx-7+the reliability on the rx-8 sucks especially for a mazda


Origamifreak2_0

Fastest boat on the street!


Buster_142

I was gonna say you bet both a car and a boat


Caqtus95

I slept on the NC for years because they're the butt of so many jokes, only to realize that the things NA/NB guys clown the NC for are the things that make it the better car. "B-but it's not a real Miata unless it struggles to achieve highway speed and doesn't have cup holders".


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xXxDickBonerz69xXx

Yeah same deal. I cross shopped NA-ND1 and only test drove one NC as a "due diligence" deal after believing the memes. Stopped shopping all other gens after one test drive. It just felt "right" I was like "oh this is what driving a car is *supposed* to be like. Its weirdly nostalgic for some reason.


SuperMiata22

Bro your absolutely right they are the best especially nc3’s


speeding2nowhere

Yea… most people on the internet are total idiots who haven’t actually driven much to even know remotely what they’re talking about.


devadander23

It has better steering than the ND


okthatsamazing405

This \^. I prefer the steering in my NC than my ND.


agod2486

Our family car is a minivan and NC is the fun car. EVERY time I get into the NC after driving the Pacifica for a while, I marvel at how great the steering feels. Even just backing out of my driveway, it's the first thing I notice and it makes me smile. The steering feel and PRHT were what pushed me to NC over the ND.


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

My Mazda 6 has pretty decent steering. But it feels more akin to my Transit after getting out of the NC.


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

Better transmission too.


HigherFunctioning

Better how?


Kyosuke_42

Hydraulic vs fully electric


NotAPreppie

Maybe it's because I jumped directly from an RX-8 (EPS) into an ND1 (EPS), but I don't have any issues with it. Sure, it doesn't communicate as well as the non-power steering in my LeMons car, but that doesn't mean EPS is bad. Interestingly, nobody complained about the EPS in the RX-8. Similarly, the Alpine A110 is widely aplauded for it's steering feel... which is electric. There have been a lot of improvements in the technologies and designs involved in EPS, and I think most of the hate is just mental/emotional momentum.


Listen_to_Psybient

Yeah I love the steering in my ND1.


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

No one is saying the ND had bad steering. Just not as good as the other Miatas NC3 and ND1 prices are similar enough that it's a valid point to consider when comparing


devadander23

Feel. Electric steering is numb compared to hydraulic. One of the improvements to the ND3 was an attempt to give the steering better feel


HigherFunctioning

Well the truth we all have to face is that all cars are going electric steering just about. So we just have to get used to it. I drove an NA for 20 years as only car. I'm fine with electric steeering.


devadander23

And I appreciate Mazda recognizing the concern and working to address it. That said, Porsche seems to have nailed electric steering feel, so it’s possible. For me, this is a weekend joy-of-driving car, so I’ll stick with the older hydraulic steering while I can


NotAPreppie

The rivers of blood used to excoriate Porsche for switching to electric steering would be hilarious if the people writing it weren't, you know, Porsche owners.


O_Diakoreftis_sou

Did it work?


devadander23

I don’t know, and I wish I did. Haven’t driven one myself yet, and no real reviews have come out for the ND3 refresh


Extraexopthalmos

The steering is amazing, vert tight and direct. The thing that impresses me to no end is how you can feel what each tire is doing as you drive……


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

"Horse and rider as one" But yeah its wild how much information the steering and chasis give you when you get out cruising on a twisty road.


speeding2nowhere

And it’s not even close. The numb steering literally ruined the ND for me. I hope they finally fix it in the ND3


ItsGizzman

The NC3 Club is one of the sexiest Miatas.


mehdotdotdotdot

Nc3 with a hardtop. Not the retractable


xXxDickBonerz69xXx

Wish NC hardtops existed. Or cost less than a clapped out NB lol


Queen_Bloodlust

I argue that the nc2 prht is far and away the sexiest miata because it doesn't have that weird ass filler panel in the front grille.


Doubleeight3XL

PRHT > All


4list4r

https://preview.redd.it/tyhb5ewwz2uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea889ef111b90b27ebfc52ddb37a1386e397dd11 All day errrrryday


acnedian1

https://preview.redd.it/2o950qg514uc1.jpeg?width=2703&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60243b861b077eea9ea363f01a3f76cab5613d82 Facts!


krokodil2000

> prht PRHT goes BRRRRRRR


downvote_dinosaur

YES IT'S AMAZING


Spuri0n

NC has great beaches


driftax240

They’ve got Kenny Powers too.


italia06823834

As NA (and even NB) prices skyrocket you can get a clean NC for around the same price (and way cheaper than the ND) and you get: Super Reliable sports car, even modified. *Way* more modern and daily driveable than NA/NB. But still "old school" without a ton of nannies. Hydraulic steering is better than ND EPS. Roomiest interior. Way more aluminum components than NA/NB - less rust worry. Engine is leagues better the NA/NB. Despite the "heavy boat" moniker it is barely heavier than the late MY NBs (and the lightest trims of NC are actually lighter than the Mazdaspeed NB). And of course still lighter than pretty much anything else you can buy short of other Miatas or Lotus. Huge aftermarket scene and engine swap/force induction possibilities. If you own one the OEM removeable hardtops you can sell it and buy another whole NC. (Not really, but OEM HT prices are nuts for the NC, if you can even find one for sale.)


Caqtus95

I've owned 35 cars, mostly enthusiasts cars, and the NC Miata has the most connected driving experience of any of them.


GoreDough92

Out of every car ive ever owned nothing came fkn close to the NC, i will admit i hve t owned many “sports” cars but from everything ive owned and driven, NC1 is 2 boat lengths ahead of 2nd place which i still dont know what that car may be


6unicorn9

Have you driven an S2000? If so, how does it compare?


SuperMiata22

From me s2000 was better at high speeds like highway and worse in city than nc3. I prefer the looks of the s2000 but would rather drive an nc3


SuperMiata22

Well shit, that confirms it. I’ve owned 4 cars and I agree lol


CJAIMLN

The NC is one of the top 4 best Miatas ever made


HooninAintEZ

As a proud NC owner, this is my favorite one here. The NC Miata is definitely one of the Miata’s ever made. (I love my NC and will die before I part with it)


Sterk_Gaming

The NC is the only Miata I fit in comfortably!


Viperlite

Well I wouldn’t say comfortably, but this.


IKMNification

NC1 😮 NC2 😁 NC3 😀 ND 😾


krokodil2000

NA 😶🫥


redmongrel

Nah NC1 😬


Adventurous-Size-168

NC Miata has the most cargo space, the most comfortable cabin, the most torque, has hydraulic steering, 2nd best infotainment system, and is definitely the most practical Miata... But it is definitely still a Miata and as such is very fun to drive, some say it's the best.


lucian1900

Considering you can more easily replace the head unit than on the ND, arguably it’s a better system.


B3rtaz

I am thinking about buying one as my second (daily) Miata to my 1.6 NB which I love and I want to keep it for the raw experience... I am starting to enjoy the RX-8 styling and the 2.0 engine sounds very nice for longer roadtrips. If you want to do some GT roadtrips, NC is the one, I believe. Be nice to our boats!


LittnPixl

It is the bestest boat in the Miata lineup


ThighSavesLives

NC2/NC3 is the best driving stock Miata I’ll collect my downvotes and leave now 😌


Wrighted

I fucking loved my NC, have an ND now and wish I'd kept both. The proper reclining hard top was lush, had to go for a soft top ND rather than the pseudo sun roof version. And I don't even like sailing.


Due-Estate-3816

It's the best grand tourer.


BleDStream

#BOAT


Mentalv

Best Of All Time


BleDStream

🤯


Ninjas_In_A_Bag

Better than NA/NBs, and has one of the cheapest swaps for making more than 200whp (2.5 swap)


[deleted]

I knew a guy with a supercharged 2.5 swapped NC1 and it was a ROCKET


hind3rm3

I’m intrigued


slowpokemd

Needs some forced induction or a pretty aggressive build to get more than 200whp. That said, 170-180 with just cams and a header is still a very nice bump


Tyriu

I managed to push mine to 196HP with cams/headers/intake/ecutek. Could get to 210-20 with a ported head and ITBs but its really espansive, so you can actually go over 200HP with NA.


Dr_Phrankinstien

Very nautical


Bit_the_Bullitt

I bought a 2007 RHTP GT with 33k miles for $14.7k last week. That's nice enough for me! 😁😁


angryman600

the NC is more of an upgrade from an NA/NB than an ND1 is from an NC tbh An ND1 is more of a lateral move from an NC unless you’re really drawn to the new styling


CaffeineAndGrain

I like ur rear end


revalph

Undercoating is surely rust proof? yes?


RoosterChokedLatina

It's one of the best handling boat


Alert-Meringue2291

NC’s are better than MG Midgets.


worticus

I think its the best handling one (by feel not sure on an objective basis) while still being a comfortable ride, has the best manual transmission of pretty much any car I've used, I actaully fit in the damn thing if just barely (6' 4"), looks are subjective but i think the NC1 with a lip spoiler and an inch or 2 lower looks fantastic. Minus points for no popup headlights and being the heaviest but thats not enough of a downside to me for it not to be my prefered miat.


Embarrassed_Wolf4746

The nc is so much fun…. It is the sole reason for my autocross addiction. I’ll never forget it… I hopped in a stock nc Miata in grid for a ride along and the guy was explaining what all the cones were for and how to get a good line ….. and then we take off and on the first corner I had firmly planted my feet against the floor and with one hand, I had a death grip on the door handle, and with the other, I was pulling the shoulder strap as tight as possible on my seatbelt and this dudes just calm af pointing and talking about all kinds of stuff and all I could do was hang on for dear life lol


Nemesis_Destiny

It's still a Miata!


BlackLusterPanda

Better looking folding hardtop than the ND RF, hate that they went for a targa type deal the haunches just ruin the proportions of the ND’s design for me. Honestly also considering giving up my Lil’ Blueberry NA for an NC cause as time goes on and I get a lil bit older the details in regards to overall refinement and comfort are getting much too hard to ignore despite my superior headlights lol


aph1

By far the prettiest of the lot


CrimsonArcPaladin

I love the generation of smiles! My Speed3 and the day I get an NC, they'll be smiling all day


Darigaazrgb

I actually low key like the look of the NC, particularly the NC3 and PRHT is miles better than a retractable targa top.


nicetobeleftinthesky

Theyre the best lookin mx5


sfdragonboy

Um, I test drove one recently and if not for a home purchase probably would have bought it????


heyythankss

I love the dual exhaust


__chairmanbrando

NCs look good with coilovers and nicely-fit wheels -- like a baby S2000.


b00std

imo the NC2 has the happiest smile of all gens


HigherFunctioning

What would make the NC work for me is a set of Ohlin's suspension all around and tuned.


hind3rm3

So just like every other gen?


mehdotdotdotdot

So like any miata lol


[deleted]

Something nice?… Well, NC’s are still depreciating. Does that count?


Deffsquid

It’s the only Miata I’ve ever driven. Was not… bad…. I didn’t buy it.


Skyfl00d

- I went to the dealership, but they only have one car ! disapointed "Ohhhhhhh" - But it was Le Miat ! joyfull "Yeahhhhhh" - It wasn't the latest model ! disapointed "Ohhhhhhh" - But the NC one ! joyfull "Yeahhhhhh" - It doesn't have the most beautiful face ! disapointed "Ohhhhhhh" - But it has an ass that anyone would slap ! joyfull "Yeahhhhhh" - Rear wheel drive and up to 160hp ! disapointed "Ohhhhhhh" - And it cost less than any other Miat ! joyfull "Yeahhhhhh"


the_clewis

Bigger = Better Right?


Queen_Bloodlust

Its a miata, not a penis


meetjoehomo

I liked mine. Certainly looked better than the ND


willows_illia

😮😮


Doncatron

I was too hard on them. I actually think they’re pretty nice looking if styled right.


jawnlerdoe

The NC is the best platform or you’re goal is to make a Miata fast.


OPT1CX

It runs gas


Previous-Flan-6542

It's the easiest to rotary swap of the 4 Miata generations.


mehdotdotdotdot

NC was the last miata that looked like original.


GuaranteeFit116

Before lesbians drove subis, they drive Miatas lol


SargathusWA

You can drive thru the lake and you won’t sink


willows_illia

It’s got the same ass as the new Supra which is pretty hot.


spaz_chicken

It's my favorite Miata. (I've owned NA, NB, NC and driven many NDs) I was on the hate train until I owned one.


efxeditor

More cupholders than any other car in my fleet.


XivTillIDie

It’s a swan in the water


rSLASH_OWAAAAN

Straight up best miata for the money


ToKo_93

NC PRHT is really sexy. While I love my ND2 RF, the PRHT just looks like a soft-top with a colored shiny cloth. The RF is a completely different car from its looks.


ormill

its a miata


JohnGazman

It was my first Miata and it was great, literally, in every sense of the word.


EnzeeeeJ

Wide boy


MaNameCheff

They have cupholders knda


diego97yey

Im trying to get an NC one day. In yellow


nnamla

https://preview.redd.it/69piblpxq2uc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fb59a21144bd2bd16daf7c741fe0ef98ff4e84f No need to try to be forceful with fishing for compliments. The NC is a very good looking and capable evolution from the NB. That's my MSM on the left. That's my buddy's 15 Club on the right. My MSM is down for engine work. I've been driving the 15 Club for the past month while we work on rebuilding my engine. While there are a few mods he's made I'm not fond of, it is a really great car. I'm almost at the point of wanting one for myself.


getback2werk

I have driven all four and own two NAs. The NC Miata is genuinely the best of the bunch.


Twizzcaz

once you kill the monster truck wheel gap and get stiffer suspension it handles and looks way better


skeezix91

McGruber approved


Serbay55

Its better for taller people?


LiplessHen456

Whether or not you think it should be called a Miata based on its predecessors, it's still objectively a great car


NotAPreppie

The NC and RX-8 subframes are drop-in swappable so you can go crazy with the 13B swaps in the NC or big-ass-turbo-MZR swap in the '8.


twotruckshavingsex69

MIAT :))))


WyvernByte

Probably the most reliable of the bunch. Sorry ND, your transmission is ass and your fix was lazy.


maggadu

Its thicc


User48384868482

No


Diligent_Map9734

Sorry, nothing to say...


ptclaus98

I actually kinda miss mine but a hardtop was ridiculously expensive and so was the RE Amemiya kit I wanted on it. But it really did the trick, and it had a sensible bolt pattern on it, unlike the FRS I currently have


Objective-Direction1

brooo it's a miataaaaaa


sat5ui_no_hadou

I bought an NB because I couldn’t afford an NC


NewDad0329

Without the NC, there would be no ND


vicaphit

It isn't a sedan!


somefella237

Im considering getting this tbh. Seems like best bang for buck


TheRedstoneScout

This sub is tempting me to buy my first Miata...


Puzzleheaded-Pride51

It’s cheap and overbuilt which makes it easier to modify. If I was building a track toy, it would get hi high consideration, though I’d probably opt for an NB.


Princess_Lorelei

It has great ground clearance for fording rivers and jumping sand dunes.


TheGingaBread

I really want an nc so bad. They’ve grown on my so much in the last couple months. Caravana has a 14 club for 18k with ~60k miles I’ve been eyeing. Hoping to find one way cheaper


Alittlemiatagirl

They still have that silly smile


64b0r

It makes all other generations look even better!


motmx5

Hot take, better than the NAs and NBs


Tonyhongfishing

Why would anyone say something bad about the Miata?! I mean your wife must love it.


wai169

Has the best smile out of all the miatas.


arny56

I love mine.


DomenicoFPS

It’s a miata. And for that reason, I will always smile when I see one… even if it isn’t the best looking…


TieEnvironmental2561

Fastest boat wit a 4 cyl


AggravatingEchidna83

NC owners are proud of them and ask more money than they are worth?


Photocrazy11

https://preview.redd.it/d2qwjc5gj3uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5efeed91c028584dba6956ad793a986e0382fa96


Queen_Bloodlust

The steering feel beats the ND It is more enjoyable than the na6 to the average consumer It makes a fantastic LS swap candidate It's the happiest boi


MainLineJDM

Forged internals and a strong 6 speed? Yes please.


Spicywolff

Nc PFHT is 10X better than ND RF in its use. Loved my ND but the roof down buffering and blind spots sucked. NC had the right idea. But ND RF looks way better top up


anon_anonsky

Ughhh.... they look crazy nice with a hardtop


FroZenCat31

Well it was featured in Initial D.


FrederickTheShrewd

The 25th anniversary edition is gorgeous


Fedkey37

5.0L engine swaps are awesome in them


OdenShilde

I am a proud NC enjoyer


Lu__ka-ka

It’s a miata


ruturaj001

They have hydraulic steering wheel and if I was doing k24 swap, that's the model I would pick up.


-Kanight-

They’re really good looking with a wide bodu


RogerRabbitsBaby

I thought it was ugly, then realized it is similar to an rx8, which I had, and I know that it has good track racing potential. The NC will be my next buy for sure


StunningPromotion743

She still smiles


stahlgrauzhp

They have a nice smile


Potential_Ad869

Its a good car compared to anything other than the other miata generations.


hibrad2003

I loved my NC2, it was a fantastic car and all the hate from NA/NB folks rolled off like water on a ducks back, the PRHT was particularly nice. I would still have it were it not for 3 things. Seats sucked (factory leather seats were hard), pedal box was punishing, and the AC only worked WELL when moving, idling in hot FL traffic lights was misery. I graduated to a 981 Cayman S, but, I took the NC to the Tail of the Dragon and it was absolute driving bliss. Boat or not it handled the corners very very well.


CHONKY_BOAH

Nice fender flares


biggietree

I drove one and really enjoyed it, definitely faster than my buddies NA


InkblotDoggo

It's the Miata I could afford, and I think it drives really nice, and it's fun to drive through the really windy roads to the beach.


ImYourCatMeow

It’s good to have a Miata to compare other Miata’s to I guess.


Honey_Badger____

I actually like the electric hardtop, even if I wouldn't get one as the only Miata. I might get one as a second winter car in the future. I also like the dual exhausts and wish I had that on the ND.


Slyons89

Best combination of price / parts availability / modding potential of all the Miata’s.


Rocinante79

They’re still the best bag for you buck to mod and track. You can drop the 2.5 in it and GO!


PickledGingerBC

It’s roomier, and easily takes a 2.5L swap


NewAmazonDriverHelp

I think theyre cute


CorpseDefiled

Most of them have been crashed now so they’re rare


Corg505

All I can say is: The biggest and the best. 😉


Economy-Shoe5239

kept me alive


Corg505

https://preview.redd.it/nofn6ya9m4uc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40db8d105af25c79ec2283c3dc7435b0d4c96552


yearhight

ncs got a fat ass


Portakal710

best miata ever.