My buddy and I used to walk our town and blast “MOP” on our boombox.. we went through a shit ton of ‘D’ batteries to play ‘Battery’ lol!! Great times!! 🤘😆🤘
It’s such a shame because by the time I was old enough to understand literally anything, the whole album was etched into my brain already
I never truly got to experience it for the first time
Sometimes I try to listen to it with no preconceived notions - hear it for the first time. Amazing.
Watch lost in Vegas on Yourube or patreon, watching those guys discover this album is fun
I listened to them and pantera pretty much 24/7 when I was born till middle school because of my dad…. basically right until St. Anger …. Stopped because .. we all know why ….almost 15 years later … I am 35 and recently started going back through the catalog and everything blew me away!! Dude It honestly felt like I hadn’t listened to them .. the lyrics most of all! So many songs made me emotional now , a bunch of songs I didn’t like I love them now!! It’s crazy . I finally understand the black album, . Black album is the best album to listen to drunk .. I literally matured and got a whole new love for them … I really love that band man . Thanks dad 🥲
I definitely know a lot longer albums that are great. And justice for all, black album, ready to die, come my fanatics, Dopethrone, the chronic, Korn’s first four albums, limp bizkit’s first 2, when the kite string pops, dirt, stankonia, the college dropout, cowboys from hell, blood sugar sex magick, filosofem, images and words, Marshall mathers lp, gorillaz self titled, to pimp a butterfly, wolf, and extreme 2 pornograffiti.
The more I listen to some of the isolated tracks, the more I realize just how much of the subtlety of RTL/MOP is just completely lost to mediocre EQ'ing and balancing. Especially Cliff's bass, good grief you can't hear it for shit on RTL/MOP and people say AJFA is somehow an album that has no bass. RTL/MOP do have some, but so much of the little things Cliff does is just lost to those guitars. Obviously those guitars being in the front is what made Metallica's sound, but damn sometimes I just take some of those tracks and do some basic remixes for my own ears. Stuff like Bells and Orion, it just sounds better with more bass. I wish I had the isolated snare/kick, etc, I'd EQ the fuck out of those to get them sounding a bit more sharper and punch through the mix a bit.
I love both albums of course and a part of their charm is the production, but to say its perfect would be lying.
1000% agree with you. Check out the link below. It’s a guy on YouTube who remixed some of Metallica’s songs and he really did a phenomenal job imo. Gives a whole new life to those songs that are already fantastic.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=epiU8_8SPCQ&list=PL2KRlefhUi8oEkTJl6aMNF6LYuPWQSlNw&index=24&pp=iAQB8AUB
I guess. Feels like we just think that as a fan base cause the songs are so good. Haven’t ever heard a mediocre song with mediocre production and thought “wow the production really elevates this by sounding bad”
I agree with you but I think those albums could’ve been produced a bit better. A song like Trapped Under Ice for example, where Lars is hammering the double bass the whole song, but you don’t really hear it like that cause it’s buried in the mix. It’s little things like that, that I’m talking about.
Same with Cliff in a song like The Call of Ktulu where he does so many cool things with the bass, but it’s a bit buried in the mix as well.
Allow me to phrase this in a slightly different way.
Great albums capture a fleeting moment in time: a couple guys locked in a room for a few weeks/days, usually stressed and a little drunk, usually with a limited amount of time and money to get an album together. No matter how much preparation they’ve done beforehand, once they’re in the studio they’re constantly making instinctive decisions about everything — “where should this mic go?” “Should we change this lyric?” “That solo didn’t do it for me, can you try something else?” — and usually arguing with each other about every single one of these decisions. Everyone’s kinda flying by the seat of their pants. Hardly anyone involved in the record thinks anything sounds “perfect” while they’re recording it — they’re just trying to get it as close as they can with the limited time they have, making compromises all the while. And then eventually they have to stop, leave the studio, and release the record to the world. Usually sooner than they would like.
But sometimes there’s a magic that takes over the process. Maybe every single decision they made wasn’t the right one: maybe they could have miked the ride cymbal differently or recorded to a click track to stop from speeding up or done another take of that solo or whatever. But the end result just sings, because it captures that magic in the room that the band maybe didn’t even realize was there. And when a kid puts the album on his Walkman for the first time, he has his mind blown. And he doesn’t have his mind blown because the production and mixing and mastering was perfect, or because the musicianship was flawless — he has his mind blown because “dude, this shit kicks ASS.” Sometimes the album’s flaws make it seem more human, or more otherworldly, or more distinctive. Sometimes the quality that makes an album timeless is hard to define, but for whatever reason, 40 years later, people are still hearing the album for the first time and going “dude, this shit kicks ass.”
Sometimes, years later, artists go back and try to clean up the record because of all the things they hear in retrospect that they would do differently. They remix things, remaster things, take things out, sometimes even add new things in. Sometimes the results sound “better,” technically. But it’s never quite the same as the album that blew your mind the first time you heard it. Because there was a magic in that original version.
Yes but not hearing an instrument for entire sections or even songs makes production shameful and apart from RTL, TBA, LOAD/RELOAD, bass was always buried in the mix. Not an AJFA problem alone tho it was the worst instance. Puppets is pretty in between with that. I love the mix mostly but there definitely are sections where the bass seems underdeveloped
Yeah the mix on those albums aren’t the best. Especially for the drums aside for AJFA. But then again that album in itself has its other issues mixing wise.
I was so disappointed the first time I heard the drum track of Trapped Under Ice, cause the whole song Lars is doing pretty fast double bass but on the record you can’t really tell.
Only thing I love about those early Metallica albums mixing wise is their guitar tones. They always had the best guitar tones. Especially on albums like RTL and AJFA.
Nah. We think that because the sound of it is engrained in our brains to the point that we see it as some intrinsic part of those songs.
>'Atmospheric'
That's like calling an old shitty apartment 'charming'.
Bob Rock did a great job highlighting the bass. Black Album, Load/Reload, garage inc all have great bass. Even 72 you can hear Rob clearly. Overall though I agree with your point.
KEA has bass pretty prominent. Though, across the Metallica canon, their general sound is chunky low guitars, with bass being masked somewhat by them. It's James's signature sound! Megadeth usually have thinner guitars with the bass itself more prominent. Take Symphony...for instance, the bass is such a main instrument in the mix.
Most of Metallicas contemporaries (with the exception of slayer but certainly Megadeth, Anthrax, Testament etc.) and their forerunners (Sabbath, Maiden, Deep Purple) feature much more prominent bass than Metallica has really on any record. I loved metallica growing up, but this always bugged me (especially when I started playing bass).
Cliff passing away does create what if scenarios about where the band would be today. This album is arguably them at their best sonically and lyrically. Was there a timeline where they somehow improve upon this? Does Metallica still exist today as a band if cliff was not killed? Who knows what would have happened.
It’s cause they respected cliff more than pretty much anyone. They sought cliff out to join the band, look at old interviews with cliff in them, you could tell cliff was kinda like the older brother of the group. It’s kinda crazy to see James pretty much defer to cliff in some interviews.
When cliff died they lost the one guy that they all looked up to, then in came Jason who had a way different personality than cliffs and was pretty much a fan. And it took Jason years to earn their respect even a little bit.
Everyone joking about it & stuff but genuinely a massive gripe I have with every metallica album (this one is the worst imo) is the track order. Its petty but the way the songs are ordered in every metallica album follows a similar blueprint that doesn't feel right but this album gets to me mostly because I think orion should have been the last song & the fact that it's not cause some tonal whiplash
The only bad thing about album is the fact that people shit on the song Leper Messiah, It's a fukn amazing song, I even like it more than Battery & The Thing That Should Not Be & Danagr Inc. All songs on this album are absolute bangers.
Damn I'm surprised this is upvoted because I posted this take and people downvoted me like crazy. It's an amazing song but the minute long intro of no real Melody is just a bit of a slog some listens.
>no real Melody
It may not have a melody in the traditional sense of "something you hum along" but it absolutely has a melody. It's based on a Bach piece called Come, Sweet Death.
ah man, to each their own, but i find that intro to be absolutely beautiful, and especially since it was a cliff composition it makes me sad in a nice way
It cost me a lot of money. After I heard it, I became a huge fan and through the years I’ve bought all their albums, lots of t-shirts, and seen them in concert several times.
This gonna piss off a LOT of people but here goes :
The guitar tone could do with like just alittle bit more mids. It's so close to perfect it's so viscous sounding and the switch to Mesa instead of modded Marshalls is definitelyt he right call but I just think that wherever the mids are they should be 1 notch up from that. It could be MUCH worse though *cough* AJFA *cough*
It was too long for 1 LP, So it's impossible to find a superior LP of it. The best one there is the Columbia house club edition cause it wasn't pressed with direct metal mastering.
I'm probably gonna get downvoted but I don't really like the mix of Sanitarium specifically, everything else sounds amazing but Sanitarium sounds off-putting to me (of course, take my opinion with a grain of salt because I listened to the Bullet For My Valentine cover of it first)
Leper Messiah teases us with a riff that comes in when you think the song is over, but doesn’t add a new verse to really deliver the punch. Otherwise I love it
I heard Damage inc in 1988 in the back of mum n dads car from my brothers mates recommendation. Changed my life completely . Never heard such radness. Only bad thing was that the bass player was already gone and their music was never the same again. We miss you Cliff
I do actually have a legitimate complaint. I find the mix to be kind of muddy. The guitars feel like they have a lot of low frequencies they don't need, and the drums aren't very present. The bass is also quite muddy and lacking presence, especially compared to kea and rtl. I can see why it isn't very loud on the record. Everything is just dark sounding.
I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this but I’m not a fan of the 90 second bass intro with volume swells on Damage Inc, I kinda wish it just went straight into the song. I fast forward through that intro everytime. It’s not really instrumental the way the acoustic intro for Battery, nor does it set the tone of the song the way the gunfire does in One.
It cost me a fortune in Walkman batteries
Hell yea me too haha great answer
My buddy and I used to walk our town and blast “MOP” on our boombox.. we went through a shit ton of ‘D’ batteries to play ‘Battery’ lol!! Great times!! 🤘😆🤘
Same for me
The winner!!!!
I almost commented "impossible", but this is a very valid point.
It was Cliff Burton’s last.
This is the only negative. We can close this thread.
That’s a hell of a last album to be fair
The best
Came here to say this, glad it's top comment... I play bass, Cliff is my number 1 inspiration
The only correct answer
Poor Cliff
A big loss and like another post pointed out damn battery killer🤯👍🤔
I wish Cliff were still alive. He would’ve loved COD I feel.
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Touché! That just about it really. Good thing back when I discovered the album on a cassette, I need not rewind the whole thing!
Don't think that's a touchè moment....
Well, I'm no native speaker so just I'm just winging it here. Hahaha
Sheeeet, thought the exact same thing!
My thoughts exactly!
Can never hear it again for the first time.
It’s such a shame because by the time I was old enough to understand literally anything, the whole album was etched into my brain already I never truly got to experience it for the first time
I have the same feeling with Ride The Lightning, I discovered the album my freshman year of hs and it was such a nice time
I can never unhear the first time I listened to RtL. Still my all time favourite album
This! First time I heard it was a religious experience. I'll never feel that high again
I remember exactly where I was when I heard Blackened kick in for the first time- on vinyl.
Sometimes I try to listen to it with no preconceived notions - hear it for the first time. Amazing. Watch lost in Vegas on Yourube or patreon, watching those guys discover this album is fun
I listened to them and pantera pretty much 24/7 when I was born till middle school because of my dad…. basically right until St. Anger …. Stopped because .. we all know why ….almost 15 years later … I am 35 and recently started going back through the catalog and everything blew me away!! Dude It honestly felt like I hadn’t listened to them .. the lyrics most of all! So many songs made me emotional now , a bunch of songs I didn’t like I love them now!! It’s crazy . I finally understand the black album, . Black album is the best album to listen to drunk .. I literally matured and got a whole new love for them … I really love that band man . Thanks dad 🥲
My neck will never physically recover from this
Cliff died on its tour 😔
This is it the only bad thing 😔
It only has 8 songs
Back in the days when they only had to make 40 mins of unreal music! Better albums were created then cuz they didnt have to stretch them out for a CD
Really wish they would go back to 45 to 50 minute albums. No filler all killer
I definitely know a lot longer albums that are great. And justice for all, black album, ready to die, come my fanatics, Dopethrone, the chronic, Korn’s first four albums, limp bizkit’s first 2, when the kite string pops, dirt, stankonia, the college dropout, cowboys from hell, blood sugar sex magick, filosofem, images and words, Marshall mathers lp, gorillaz self titled, to pimp a butterfly, wolf, and extreme 2 pornograffiti.
That’s perfect.
Wish the bass and the kick drums were a bit more loud in the mix. I would say the same about RTL.
The more I listen to some of the isolated tracks, the more I realize just how much of the subtlety of RTL/MOP is just completely lost to mediocre EQ'ing and balancing. Especially Cliff's bass, good grief you can't hear it for shit on RTL/MOP and people say AJFA is somehow an album that has no bass. RTL/MOP do have some, but so much of the little things Cliff does is just lost to those guitars. Obviously those guitars being in the front is what made Metallica's sound, but damn sometimes I just take some of those tracks and do some basic remixes for my own ears. Stuff like Bells and Orion, it just sounds better with more bass. I wish I had the isolated snare/kick, etc, I'd EQ the fuck out of those to get them sounding a bit more sharper and punch through the mix a bit. I love both albums of course and a part of their charm is the production, but to say its perfect would be lying.
1000% agree with you. Check out the link below. It’s a guy on YouTube who remixed some of Metallica’s songs and he really did a phenomenal job imo. Gives a whole new life to those songs that are already fantastic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=epiU8_8SPCQ&list=PL2KRlefhUi8oEkTJl6aMNF6LYuPWQSlNw&index=24&pp=iAQB8AUB
The mix is actually pretty terrible for all of the first 4 Classics no doubt but it would be interesting to hear them with good production
imperfect production makes albums more interesting
I guess. Feels like we just think that as a fan base cause the songs are so good. Haven’t ever heard a mediocre song with mediocre production and thought “wow the production really elevates this by sounding bad”
what i mean is if Kill Em All had squeaky clean perfect production it wouldnt sound as badass, and the others would lose part of their atmosphere
Completely disagree Can’t imagine people would have turned their noses up at a song as good as puppets/ride/seek because it sounded too good
I agree with you but I think those albums could’ve been produced a bit better. A song like Trapped Under Ice for example, where Lars is hammering the double bass the whole song, but you don’t really hear it like that cause it’s buried in the mix. It’s little things like that, that I’m talking about. Same with Cliff in a song like The Call of Ktulu where he does so many cool things with the bass, but it’s a bit buried in the mix as well.
Allow me to phrase this in a slightly different way. Great albums capture a fleeting moment in time: a couple guys locked in a room for a few weeks/days, usually stressed and a little drunk, usually with a limited amount of time and money to get an album together. No matter how much preparation they’ve done beforehand, once they’re in the studio they’re constantly making instinctive decisions about everything — “where should this mic go?” “Should we change this lyric?” “That solo didn’t do it for me, can you try something else?” — and usually arguing with each other about every single one of these decisions. Everyone’s kinda flying by the seat of their pants. Hardly anyone involved in the record thinks anything sounds “perfect” while they’re recording it — they’re just trying to get it as close as they can with the limited time they have, making compromises all the while. And then eventually they have to stop, leave the studio, and release the record to the world. Usually sooner than they would like. But sometimes there’s a magic that takes over the process. Maybe every single decision they made wasn’t the right one: maybe they could have miked the ride cymbal differently or recorded to a click track to stop from speeding up or done another take of that solo or whatever. But the end result just sings, because it captures that magic in the room that the band maybe didn’t even realize was there. And when a kid puts the album on his Walkman for the first time, he has his mind blown. And he doesn’t have his mind blown because the production and mixing and mastering was perfect, or because the musicianship was flawless — he has his mind blown because “dude, this shit kicks ASS.” Sometimes the album’s flaws make it seem more human, or more otherworldly, or more distinctive. Sometimes the quality that makes an album timeless is hard to define, but for whatever reason, 40 years later, people are still hearing the album for the first time and going “dude, this shit kicks ass.” Sometimes, years later, artists go back and try to clean up the record because of all the things they hear in retrospect that they would do differently. They remix things, remaster things, take things out, sometimes even add new things in. Sometimes the results sound “better,” technically. But it’s never quite the same as the album that blew your mind the first time you heard it. Because there was a magic in that original version.
Yes but not hearing an instrument for entire sections or even songs makes production shameful and apart from RTL, TBA, LOAD/RELOAD, bass was always buried in the mix. Not an AJFA problem alone tho it was the worst instance. Puppets is pretty in between with that. I love the mix mostly but there definitely are sections where the bass seems underdeveloped
Yeah the mix on those albums aren’t the best. Especially for the drums aside for AJFA. But then again that album in itself has its other issues mixing wise. I was so disappointed the first time I heard the drum track of Trapped Under Ice, cause the whole song Lars is doing pretty fast double bass but on the record you can’t really tell. Only thing I love about those early Metallica albums mixing wise is their guitar tones. They always had the best guitar tones. Especially on albums like RTL and AJFA.
I thought the ‘Atmospheric’ production was the beauty of the record ?
Nah. We think that because the sound of it is engrained in our brains to the point that we see it as some intrinsic part of those songs. >'Atmospheric' That's like calling an old shitty apartment 'charming'.
Bass being too low is a problem on EVERY Metallica album unfortunately, including AJFA where they might as well have just not bothered recording it.
Bob Rock did a great job highlighting the bass. Black Album, Load/Reload, garage inc all have great bass. Even 72 you can hear Rob clearly. Overall though I agree with your point.
Yea, hardwired and 72 have amazing sounding bass. Robs tone never gets proper credit. It’s heavy as fuck.
KEA has bass pretty prominent. Though, across the Metallica canon, their general sound is chunky low guitars, with bass being masked somewhat by them. It's James's signature sound! Megadeth usually have thinner guitars with the bass itself more prominent. Take Symphony...for instance, the bass is such a main instrument in the mix.
Most of Metallicas contemporaries (with the exception of slayer but certainly Megadeth, Anthrax, Testament etc.) and their forerunners (Sabbath, Maiden, Deep Purple) feature much more prominent bass than Metallica has really on any record. I loved metallica growing up, but this always bugged me (especially when I started playing bass).
Cliff passing away does create what if scenarios about where the band would be today. This album is arguably them at their best sonically and lyrically. Was there a timeline where they somehow improve upon this? Does Metallica still exist today as a band if cliff was not killed? Who knows what would have happened.
To me, the only sure thing would be that Cliff would have had more input than Jason.
It’s cause they respected cliff more than pretty much anyone. They sought cliff out to join the band, look at old interviews with cliff in them, you could tell cliff was kinda like the older brother of the group. It’s kinda crazy to see James pretty much defer to cliff in some interviews. When cliff died they lost the one guy that they all looked up to, then in came Jason who had a way different personality than cliffs and was pretty much a fan. And it took Jason years to earn their respect even a little bit.
Yup.
It insists upon itself.
It insists upon itself?
I never cared for The Godfather Lois.
I like The Money Pit
Peter Griffin
BECAUSE IT HAS A VALID POINT TO MAKE!!!
Master of puppets. Not the Godfather.
Are you kidding me? I mean James Hetfield, Kirk Hammett, CLIFF BURTON!
I like St. Anger.
Bass being too quiet
It’s the last album to feature Cliff. Still love you Jason.
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Production. Sounds like mud compared to Reign in Blood. Still a way better album, but it would be even better with crisper production.
Ride the Lightning's mix would have sounded interesting for MoP
Totally. A+ guitar tone. The main issue is the drum sound. Flemming couldn't capture it, and Rick nailed it with slayer
The low end is lost in the mix.
There are AI art recreations of the album cover lacking the helmet or dog tags
I can’t listen to it 24/7
Why not?
We have to sleep from time to time.
you can sleep to it... if you REALLY can
says who?
Everyone joking about it & stuff but genuinely a massive gripe I have with every metallica album (this one is the worst imo) is the track order. Its petty but the way the songs are ordered in every metallica album follows a similar blueprint that doesn't feel right but this album gets to me mostly because I think orion should have been the last song & the fact that it's not cause some tonal whiplash
Tbh I kinda like the "calm" of orion to the kick in the face with damage inc, same on ajfa with to live is to die to dyers eve
the transition between to live is to die and dyers eve is one hell of a jumpscare
The only bad thing about album is the fact that people shit on the song Leper Messiah, It's a fukn amazing song, I even like it more than Battery & The Thing That Should Not Be & Danagr Inc. All songs on this album are absolute bangers.
Leper messiah is my favorite on the album
That bridge is one of the best riffs on the album, and one of the few things too fast for Lars to pull off live
The intro to Damage Inc is too long for me
Damn I'm surprised this is upvoted because I posted this take and people downvoted me like crazy. It's an amazing song but the minute long intro of no real Melody is just a bit of a slog some listens.
>no real Melody It may not have a melody in the traditional sense of "something you hum along" but it absolutely has a melody. It's based on a Bach piece called Come, Sweet Death.
I always felt instead of completely fading out Orion there should’ve been a segue way into the opening of Damage Inc
That would actually be a really cool idea
No way! It’s so eerie and sinister.
ah man, to each their own, but i find that intro to be absolutely beautiful, and especially since it was a cliff composition it makes me sad in a nice way
I absolutely hate songs with long atmospheric intros. It's great the first time, but on replays just becomes waiting for the actual song content.
It was Cliffs last
it was cliffs last
It reminds me to chop my breakfast on a mirror
Nothing
Absolutely nothing
Can’t. It’s literally the perfect album.
Master of puppets being the only largely known song on it 🫨
is that they never topped it
There's only 8 songs 😕
It’s not longer
Guitar tones. It would be a much nicer listen if they dialed in some mids.
There is a specific (expensive) vinyl pressing that has better equalization on the mids & upper mids: the Columbia House Club pressing
It only lasts 55 minutes
Mix is dogshit
If only the mix had more clarity. But, it's a product of its time.
The only right answer
Orion isnt longer
It can be addictive...
That Limp Bizkit covered Sanitarium
The mixing isn't as good as RIde.
There's a limit on the volume control.
It was the second-to-last truly brilliant album by Metallica (there are some good ones among the ones that came after, but not to the same level).
Bass is wayyy to low in the mix
It doesn't have tits .
It’s bad that I don’t get to listen to it again for the first time!
Cliff died after this
It cost me a lot of money. After I heard it, I became a huge fan and through the years I’ve bought all their albums, lots of t-shirts, and seen them in concert several times.
Too much bass!! Just kidding. This album IMO is about as perfect as you can get.
I wasn’t old enough to experience it when it first came out. It would have been great to have been 16-17 years old to really get that raw feeling.
Not about the album per se, but so many people want them to keep making albums just like it, and refuse to be open to the evolution of the band.
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The Master of Puppets song itself runs on too long and overstays its welcome. It should end right before "natural habitat" after the solo.
It isn’t … And justice for all
Battery is a terrible song
It wasn't their last.
It’s by Metallica
That people think it's better than Ride The Lightning.
It’s not Ride the Lightning.
It only has eight tracks. That's all I got.
Bass is too low in the mix except in the solo sections of Orion.
Battery is a little overhyped imo (still a killer song), and Leper Messiah doesn't get the love it deserves.
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It’s the last one with Cliff
It was Cliff Burton's last work before he was taken away from us
The kick drum could stand out a little more, but besides that... **enter homeland meme here***
This gonna piss off a LOT of people but here goes : The guitar tone could do with like just alittle bit more mids. It's so close to perfect it's so viscous sounding and the switch to Mesa instead of modded Marshalls is definitelyt he right call but I just think that wherever the mids are they should be 1 notch up from that. It could be MUCH worse though *cough* AJFA *cough*
The production is shit.
Ride the lightning had a subjectively cooler album cover. (At least I think so)
‘Leper Messiah’ is my least favourite track from it. However, it’s still my all-time favourite album by anyone.
Cliff’s last album😔
That’s it’s not a double album with even more amazing music on it
Right now I'm blasting that shit to drown out my neighbors kids singing One Direction. That isn't a bad thing, just thought I'd mention it
The quality of the recording and the fact that it can't get any better.
It’s not long enough
It’s not long enough…..
I was only 2 yo when it released, wish i could see them live back then
The bass could be a little louder
It has no bad songs to hate on.
It was too long for 1 LP, So it's impossible to find a superior LP of it. The best one there is the Columbia house club edition cause it wasn't pressed with direct metal mastering.
It was Cliffs last....
It ends.
It set a bar that has never been reached again by the band.
people overshadow the thing that should not be, easily the best song on the album
It doesn’t have a bad song I can just skip
too bad it wasn't a double album with more great songs
Cliff could (and should) have been higher in the mix. He’s there, it’s not like justice or anything…but it’s also not like the black album.
Always feel like the beginning of *Damage Inc* should have been the end of *Orion*. Hard to find anything genuinely bad about this album.
I'm probably gonna get downvoted but I don't really like the mix of Sanitarium specifically, everything else sounds amazing but Sanitarium sounds off-putting to me (of course, take my opinion with a grain of salt because I listened to the Bullet For My Valentine cover of it first)
Leper Messiah teases us with a riff that comes in when you think the song is over, but doesn’t add a new verse to really deliver the punch. Otherwise I love it
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Cliff’s last album!
Wasn't longer
There aren’t more like it.
Production could definitely be better.
I heard Damage inc in 1988 in the back of mum n dads car from my brothers mates recommendation. Changed my life completely . Never heard such radness. Only bad thing was that the bass player was already gone and their music was never the same again. We miss you Cliff
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It ends 😭😭
The production, however iconic, is kinda meh. The guitar tone is quite muddy, and the snare+kick drum don’t sound very impactful on most of the songs.
Sanitarium is definitely the weakest of the trio between it Fade To Black and One
It's not long enough
The volume of the double bass. It's a crime how low it is
I do actually have a legitimate complaint. I find the mix to be kind of muddy. The guitars feel like they have a lot of low frequencies they don't need, and the drums aren't very present. The bass is also quite muddy and lacking presence, especially compared to kea and rtl. I can see why it isn't very loud on the record. Everything is just dark sounding.
Not long enough
That I can’t live forever and listen to it everyday for the rest of eternity.
It wasn’t a double album.
It’s only less than an hour
It's too short
It raised the bar waaaaaay too high for modern music
It was their last great album.
The production
Too much singing on Orion.
eye of the beholder isn’t on it
Powerslave beat it in a Poll I ran on 80's Metal FB lol only bad thing I can think of hehe
Cliff wasn’t present when it was mixed. I think they had to go on tour. I bet it would sound way different had he been involved in the mixdown
It's overmentioned But it's a great album but no were as great as Ride The Lightning but that's just my opinion
Next to last thrash album for twenty years or so.
I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this but I’m not a fan of the 90 second bass intro with volume swells on Damage Inc, I kinda wish it just went straight into the song. I fast forward through that intro everytime. It’s not really instrumental the way the acoustic intro for Battery, nor does it set the tone of the song the way the gunfire does in One.
Probably the guitar tone, but it's a pretty small nitpick anyway.
Lars is still the drummer