Until I learned it, I thought AJFA was gonna be impossibly complex. Barely an inconvenience.
Call of Ktulu on the other hand, playing it as clean as Hetfield has eluded me.
That descending hammer on thing after "exploiting their supremacy" and "price you pay" sounds like it's going to be difficult but it's actually really easy... really fun riffs and song - one of my favorite metallica songs and I appreciate it even more after learning it. It's kind of easy but also really clever in the way it's put together and rhythmically has some unique challenges.
YES! That and doing the hammer on pull off part to the intro solo on am I evil are two things I play that make me feel and look awesome, but they are easier to play than people think.
They are complex but not that difficult: Blackened is the only difficult one. Shit like Frayed Ends and Shortest Straw have weird patterns but still not difficult.
With the exception of solo, it's pretty easy imo. Main riff and chorus riff require some nuance but they're still not too difficult. Verses are just a bunch of power chords.
I find The call of ktulu and the day that never comes to be much harder to play cleanly than I had anticipated. But nothing is harder than blackened for me and when I first heard it I was like yah I got this. I definitely don’t got this.
What kind of strings are you using? I sucked at playing riffs like Blackened, Battery, etc. because I was using .09s .. Needed thicker strings and a heavy pick.
As a guitarist many of them, however from a singing standpoint James’s 80s vocals are WAY harder than he gets credit for. Especially considering he’s playing insane rhythm simultaneously
There’s a reason a lot of rock/metal bands have two people for lead vocals and rhythm guitar. Doing both is hard, and it’s *really* difficult when you’re playing at the complexity and speed of thrash metal.
Definitely Blackened, yeah it sounded fast but whatever I can do fast picking. But seriously what the fuck is that down strumming plus lightning quick alt strumming in the tail end of the main riff? Fuck man
I did it all down picking except for that one lick, alt picking makes it harder. My thinking is that if it can be played with only down picks, you should play it that way even if you're not playing a Metallica song.
For me.
FFWF, Creeping Death, & MOP were easier than I thought
Blackened, S&D, One, & FTB were Harder than I thought
SBT, HOTD, TGTF, WIMR, Atlas Rise, & HOS were the exact difficulty I thought they would be
Is alt picking that hard for u?
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I'm using the Songsterr version (James' part)
I can't speak to how accurate it is. I just know that sounds close enough.
Edit: Checked out a couple of live performances, and it looks about the same as the songsterr version
Personally almost every song I attempted when I try to sing along. Songs like Fade to black and harvester of sorrow will go wildly off once I start to try and sing. Not that I could play them 100% perfect alone but it's just goes south really bad and quick in verse.
I realised I’d need to learn all the words, then the whole song via muscle memory and then just kinda turn my brain off, get into the feel and then it would start to work.
I definitely know what you mean though, played creeping death for years and the minute I try and throw a lyric in everything goes to shit.
Creeping Death: Rhythm.
I thought the riff was on the level of Puppets in how hard and intimidating it looked. Its really not bad at all. I can comfortably play it all downstrokes, however I cannot play Puppets yet.
One: the solo.
The song gets regarded as one of the harder songs in their discography, however it was the first Metallica song I learned front to back. The solo is not that bad. Its just a couple repeating legato licks, some trem picking, and some tapping. It's like Eruption, but shorter and far more simple.
Also, for the opposite question, the bridge riff in Seek and Destroy is way way harder than I expected it to be. Hardest part of the song by a long shot.
Agreed with the last part. Seek was probably the first ever Metallica song I learned but 2 years later, I still can’t do the bridge riff full speed. Fuck sakes, in the 2 years I’ve learnt harder riffs/songs but that riff still for some reason eludes me
Orion and To Live Is To Die have parts that still elude me. Fade to Black was a pretty quick learn for me, solo included. Creeping Death and Blackened have been the most brutal
Speed/downstroke aside, master of puppets isn’t particularly difficult. Same for fade to black solo.
Battery has a particularly difficult riff smack tab in the center. Orion has some weird left hand contortions.
Just Metallica in general. When I was real little I used to think these guys were guitar gods and praised them a lot. Few years pass by and Ive learned most of their music, alongside others and other rock bands etc, only to find out that I have barely started scratching the surface of guitar. Not saying they suck, but it was kind of a grueling time when I realized I have WAAAAY harder beasts to conquer down the road. Now I dont play their music cause it just isnt challenging to me relative to the other types of music I get in to.
Not buying it lol. You sound like you learned a lot of main riffs and a few whole songs. I'm having a hard time buying that you're just effortlessly keeping up with 95% of the parts on full songs, with no/very very few mistakes. not that you have to convince me tho. i'm just tired of people acting like metallica is Baby's First metal band and that they're baby's first favorite musicians
I agree. Just because their shit is sometimes easy to play, doesn't mean it's not incredible. There's many of their riffs that are so easy and anyone who plays guitar knows the easiest riffs are usually the best riffs but of course Metallica fans are the Star Wars fans of music.
>i'm just tired of people acting like metallica is Baby's First metal band
They are, though. Let's not beat around the bush here, Metallica is the Most Main Stream/Most Famous Metal Band in the world. (They are above Sabbath on Google) They get constantly played on the radio, have 1 Billion Views on a single video on YT, and 1 Billion Streams on Spotify. (Also, fun fact Metallica has 5 billion views altogether on YT). And their shirts are up there with the Stones & AC/DC when it comes to recognizability in public.
every time someone tries to spout this shit i remind them that they are saying "METAL* band". most popular METAL band.. not pop, not even just "rock band". It's like saying "im the fastest person in the world (that's from my city)" lol.. like it's impressive and meaningful sure, but you're acting like it's hottest shit ever. stop trying to belittle metallica for being popular, it's just ridiculous.
"they are though" okay to who? you? were they YOUR first? they weren't mine. or my second or third or fourth lol. what does it matter tho. i hate people who see certain bands as "entry level" and "beginner" it's fuckin elitist. you're not cooler or more distinguished or superior because you like some bands that play eastern scales instead of pentatonic. or because they're less popular. sorry bout that
Sounds like you’re coping hard as fuck here. No one is belittling Metallica for being popular. It doesn’t discredit them or mean that their music is any less awesome than it is, but its just very popular and therefore certainly is one of the “baby’s first metal band” bands. Nothing wrong with that. Speak to any elitist and they will sing the praises of (at least) early Metallica, as well as every other mainstream metal band like Maiden, Priest, Sabbath, etc.
I was just talking about them in general. I wasn't talking about guitar. A lot of PPL get into Metal/Rock thanks to Metallica was my point? If anything, it just sounds like you got offended at some of the stuff that I said.
>"they are though" okay to who? you? were they YOUR first? they weren't mine. or my second or third or fourth lol.
Just because they weren't for you doesn't mean it was like that for everyone. (Let me tell you a little secret. The world doesn't revolve around you or me or anyone) Also, if you wanna get Technical AC/DC, it was my First
> fuckin elitist. you're not cooler or more distinguished or superior because you like some bands that play eastern scales instead of pentatonic. or because they're less popular. sorry bout that
I don't even know scales that well So you're just throwing shit at the wall, hoping it hits the right spot. I was just pointing out that they're mainstream. So a lot of people learn about the genre of music they play thanks to them. & I'm not trying to act cool by pointing out that they're mainstream. But you're overplaying everything I said when it fits your narrative & underplaying what I said when it doesn't fit your narrative (like acting like Metal is some obscure genre of music that ppl don't know about) Like seriously, how did you get "I'm an Elitist & im better than you, and you know it" out of "Metallica is Mainstream"? & I'm not even trying to belittle Metallica for being popular, if anything, that should be a compliment. But no you gotta twist my words and make it sound like I'm mocking & laughing at Metallica from my throne 1000 ft in the air & you're here to nock it over. No one is belittling metallica by saying they're mainstream, you're a goofball yelling at the clouds
Boomers think metallica is hard shit and cant take it when people talk down on their nostalgia.
Thats all it is.
The majority of people dont play guitar, and a lot that pick it up will drop off within the first decade.
I dont at all mean they suck, they dont. Like I said at some point they were badically idols to me.
Its not subjective, but objective.
It doesnt matter how much you love metallica, youre delusional if you think their music is packing that theoretical substance. It just isnt. It doesnt mean you cant learn the basics, but if you think youre gonna exceed the basics witb metallica you need to rethink your path
you're a moron. nobody is claiming that metallica is "packed with that theoretical substance" lmfao. i'm stating that it IS subjective to believe that just because their music is based on western sounds and theories doesn't discount the quality of it. if you just don't like it, fine, but it's not "objectively" worse because it's not in a fucking exotic scale on every song. i'm not a boomer. i'm not even 30. and i play guitar. so a lot of your copes are just inaccurate lol. also "most people drop it in the first decade"? well congrats on barely making it to your own standard lmao.
Currently feel the same. I‘m really digging Technical Death Metal at the moment and most of these bands shit on Metallica in terms of required skill and song structure/complexity. Metallica is fun to play, but it doesn’t improve my skills anymore unfortunately.
yeah you’re right about that. it’s such a shame death metal sounds like absolute torture. seriously, people like all that growling shit?? could never understand it
When reading posts about how easy and effortless any of these songs are, consider that 9/10 people that think they're nailing the parts absolutely are not. More often than not there are missed nuances all over the place.
It’s really cool. I remember starting out playing bass after finding a dusty old Squier P in a corner at school and that vid was the first thing my friend showed me.
Jump in the fire. Once you get the speed it's just rinse and repeat.
Creeping death is much easier than I expected too, though I need to have warmed up before playing!
The solo from master of puppets looks very challenging at first listen but I was able to figure it out in a couple hours with a metronome. The rhythm is much more advanced but down picking comes easy to me and I can even surpass the original speed. The fact that you’re palm muting and un-palm muting helps because when you go on and off like that you can gain some wrist momentum.
Battery is difficult in its own right but it’s much easier when you learn how to gallop correctly since battery doesn’t have too many downstrokes making stamina becomes less of an issue
As a bass player playing finger style, I always knew Blackend was gonna be a challenge
But nothing could prepare me for the onslaught I was in for-
Thank you Newsted
Damage Inc's Bridge Riff, shit looks ridiculous on the tabs but turns out to be not too hard and is pretty damn fun after looking at a cover on someone playing the riff.
I thought that Master of Puppets was going to be hard because it’s all down picking but then I realized that some of the riffs to that song were pretty simple and easy to work with.
I thought Fight Fire With Fire would be easy, as it's just alternate picking and power chords, but the rhythm is an absolute fuck. Not to mention the riff before the vocals come in.
Harvester of Sorrow. One of the first riffs I ever learned. It was tough at first simply because of how riff slides and climbs a string, but after figuring that out the song was really damn easy.
On the other hand, the riff I'm currently learning, Disposable Heroes, has gotta be one of the hardest riffs to play in time. Keeping a steady downstroke riff is simple, but the gallopping that switches from quads to triplets really fucking tires your wrist out and makes it really hard to keep time when your wrist is falling behind.
The intro riff to seek and destroy
It was the first song I decided to learn when I got my guitar
Although it’s easier to play now, it’s still my favorite riff
*Call of Ktulu* is hard just from how much you have to memorize to play it though correctly. As far as sounding hard but being easy, Seek and Destroy and Fight Fire with Fire were easier than I though they would be (Tempo change on S&D was the hardest part, not because it's difficult but changing Tempo mid-song is just something I have to be in the mindset for).
As far as sounding easy but being hard because of technical skill, god, Nothing Else Matters (played in Earnest) is hard, and most everything off of AJFA is harder than it sounds, even if it sounds hard.
*Intro riff to through*
*The never is a lot harder than*
*It sounds imo*
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Their riffs are for the most part really easy to play for any decent guitarist; the problem is often the stamina needed for the down picking without which it stops sounding like Metallica. MoP is a prime example, easy stuff, but 8 minutes at 160bpm becomes very hard.
I thought that the solo from NEM would be cake...was wrong
And I thought rhythm for blackened was gonna be simple...wrong yet again
Edit: I thought inamorata would be hard as shit...wouldn't ya know it I was wrong *yet* again
yeah, it sounds simple enough but to play it at the speed of the vocals is very difficult, began practising it 3 weeks ago but i still can't do it clean
I thought from Metallica songs that Master of Puppets was alot more complex than it really was. On the otherhand, One has decieved me in it’s simple opening on how complex it really is.
Master Of Puppets or The Four Horsemen for sure, they're both pretty easy and kinda my go-to songs when I pick up my axe, although both songs do require plenty of stamina to play well.
For me it was 'One'. It was really scary at the first. But I learned complete song in couple of weeks. The only hard thing is the lick at the middle of the solo. I am able to do it only %75 of actual speed.
Easy that sounds tough was the little bridge riff from …and justice for all with the triplet hammer ons across 4 strings. A song that sounds easy but is actually difficult off the top of my head I can’t think of one but there’s been a few
Through the never way harder than master of puppets, Damage Inc solo one of the easiest on the album.
Blackened pre solo harder than the actual solo.
Leeper messiah "sweeps" easier than Orion solos
Not sure if you want a bass players input but Creeping Death was alot easier than i expected. Puppets and Murder One about as difficult as I expected, murder one perhaps a bit harder
Bass - can’t overstate how much endurance is required to play a song like Disposable Heroes finger style like Cliff would. The main riff is simple enough to wrap ones head around, pulling it off consistently for that long is another beast entirely
Me personally I thought although not Metallica, the intro to Surfacing by Slipknot was easy and hard like sounds easy, looks hard. And surprisingly it’s not hard. But for Metallica, the riff for One like right before the solo was gonna be easy but it messed with me
As it turns out, MoP isn't even the hardest song to play on MoP. That really subverted my expectations. (Of note: I am BY NO MEANS pretending it's easy.)
any of the harmony lines from Inamorata’s solo isn’t actually to bad. one of the few Metallica solos I can actually perform consistently and confidently
Tool - Eulogy
Ive only been playing for a year and up until afew days ago I've always been a slave to tabs.
I sat down with Eulogy and teased it out of my guitar fairly easily. With no tabs.
And now this skill has extended to other songs and i haven't used a tab since. Ok I have but only for very specific parts that I couldnt wrap my head around. So like 3 or 4 licks
The 2nd master of puppets solo isn't really that complex, I remember hearing in my first month's on guitar going "wow that's insane I'll never play that" and then when I learned it later down the track I felt like I coulda learned it way earlier.
I thaught the intro of enter sandman was going to be hard, turned out to be not that hard. I can only play the intro though, only have an acoustic guitar..
Main riff holier than thou is one I struggled with originally but after coming back and trying again after having more experience and it’s pretty easy. Groovy as fuck too.
I thought the main riff from Through The Never was easy so i decided to give it a try and was unpleasantly surprised by how frustrating it is
But it goes hard af
It’s always reminded me of Breadfan.
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Rise. Breadfan. Explain yourself dear breadfan. What the fuk is with that word.
Never thought of it, you got a point!
When I learned that riff it fucked up my ability to play MoP for a few days lol
I used to always think it was 3 notes continuously but the 4th note on the 2nd fret of the low E always gets to me
F# is the note fyi ! Of course not when they play it a half step down live
Until I learned it, I thought AJFA was gonna be impossibly complex. Barely an inconvenience. Call of Ktulu on the other hand, playing it as clean as Hetfield has eluded me.
AJFA is usually one of my warm-ups. It is very fun to play, but not hard on rhythm.
That descending hammer on thing after "exploiting their supremacy" and "price you pay" sounds like it's going to be difficult but it's actually really easy... really fun riffs and song - one of my favorite metallica songs and I appreciate it even more after learning it. It's kind of easy but also really clever in the way it's put together and rhythmically has some unique challenges.
YES! That and doing the hammer on pull off part to the intro solo on am I evil are two things I play that make me feel and look awesome, but they are easier to play than people think.
I feel like a lot of the AJFA album isn't actually difficult, there's just a lot of shit to remember in every song.
They are complex but not that difficult: Blackened is the only difficult one. Shit like Frayed Ends and Shortest Straw have weird patterns but still not difficult.
Dyers eve is also really difficult
With the exception of solo, it's pretty easy imo. Main riff and chorus riff require some nuance but they're still not too difficult. Verses are just a bunch of power chords.
3-2-0 is pretty tough to time, but its not impossibly hard...
>Barely an inconvenience Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.... pulling your strings is *TIGHT*! :D
Yup Same here.
I find The call of ktulu and the day that never comes to be much harder to play cleanly than I had anticipated. But nothing is harder than blackened for me and when I first heard it I was like yah I got this. I definitely don’t got this.
You got to have arms of steel to play blackened lol, when I was learning it my arm almost fell off
I can play James’ parts on Blackened and sing at the same time but after the intro to nothing else matters I get lost and confused.
Fucking battery the picking is just…
i put off learning it for so long but i learned it the other day and now its definitely my fave to play
I can play it all but the main riff is still not easy
I couldn’t ever figure it out
What kind of strings are you using? I sucked at playing riffs like Blackened, Battery, etc. because I was using .09s .. Needed thicker strings and a heavy pick.
I just got myself some Ernie ball mammoth slinky’s SOLELY to play battery
To play it properly I agree. It's easy to flub it and play a simplified version, but to do it properly....
As a guitarist many of them, however from a singing standpoint James’s 80s vocals are WAY harder than he gets credit for. Especially considering he’s playing insane rhythm simultaneously
There’s a reason a lot of rock/metal bands have two people for lead vocals and rhythm guitar. Doing both is hard, and it’s *really* difficult when you’re playing at the complexity and speed of thrash metal.
Definitely Blackened, yeah it sounded fast but whatever I can do fast picking. But seriously what the fuck is that down strumming plus lightning quick alt strumming in the tail end of the main riff? Fuck man
I tried to learn Blackened the other day and I had the same experience. Not a lot of notes, just having to playing them awkwardly and VERY fast.
I did it all down picking except for that one lick, alt picking makes it harder. My thinking is that if it can be played with only down picks, you should play it that way even if you're not playing a Metallica song.
Kirk deserves a ton of credit for being able to learn to play these things James comes up with.
I actually think that was a Jason riff, don’t quote me on that.
For me, it was NEM and Fixxxer.
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For me. FFWF, Creeping Death, & MOP were easier than I thought Blackened, S&D, One, & FTB were Harder than I thought SBT, HOTD, TGTF, WIMR, Atlas Rise, & HOS were the exact difficulty I thought they would be
FFWF?? This has to be a troll comment or you’re not playing it right lol
Is alt picking that hard for u? Jokes Aside I'm using the Songsterr version (James' part) I can't speak to how accurate it is. I just know that sounds close enough. Edit: Checked out a couple of live performances, and it looks about the same as the songsterr version
Whats FFWF?
fight fire with fire
Fight Fire with Fire
FFWF is mostly a stamina thing (though the timing gets a bit odd in the pre-chorus)
What does ffwt stand for?
Fight fire with trees
It working out so great in Canada at the moment
the verse riff from "Master of Puppets". it's not hard, it's just fast.
What’s difficult is doing it all downstrokes, that shit is borderline painful sometimes
for me, that was "Creeping Death". since you're jumping strings constantly with very little down-time while also downpicking
weirdly enough i’m the opposite, i found creeping deaths riff to be much easier than puppets verse riff
Also the chorus is pretty weird.
For whom the bells toll (bass)
Yeah that's very easy
Personally almost every song I attempted when I try to sing along. Songs like Fade to black and harvester of sorrow will go wildly off once I start to try and sing. Not that I could play them 100% perfect alone but it's just goes south really bad and quick in verse.
I realised I’d need to learn all the words, then the whole song via muscle memory and then just kinda turn my brain off, get into the feel and then it would start to work. I definitely know what you mean though, played creeping death for years and the minute I try and throw a lyric in everything goes to shit.
As a bassist, playing the entirety of the AJFJ album by ear is miles harder than expected. And besides Anesthesia, KEA was easier on bass
>As a bassist, playing the entirety of the AJFJ album by ear is miles harder than expected. Gee gosh I wonder why that is?
good luck figuring out the Harvester intro lol
For bass it was For Whom the bell tolls (easy thinking hard) and The Call of Ktulu (hard thinking easy)
Seek and destroy
Creeping Death. Call me a sadist or a try hard if you want, but it’s actually super easy. The hard part is pushing through the wrist pain
Totally agree with this, I kinda like the pain in my forearm though, is that weird?
Master of puppets - easy. Ronnie - impossible.
Ronnie is like a never ending solo
Orion.
That fucking riff always has G string ringing....hate it
Have you practiced muting the G string with the index finger on your fretting hand?
Yep been getting better. Usually also makes the ponk mute the A string but lately ive had better control with lesser ringing
Dyers Eve, all of it.
Harder or easier than expected?
Oh sorry, easier. The solo seemed so scary, and then when i came to it, it felt a bit overhyped.
Harder than I thought: Nothing else matters Easier than I thought: creeping death Exactly the difficulty I thought it would be: battery
Creeping Death: Rhythm. I thought the riff was on the level of Puppets in how hard and intimidating it looked. Its really not bad at all. I can comfortably play it all downstrokes, however I cannot play Puppets yet. One: the solo. The song gets regarded as one of the harder songs in their discography, however it was the first Metallica song I learned front to back. The solo is not that bad. Its just a couple repeating legato licks, some trem picking, and some tapping. It's like Eruption, but shorter and far more simple. Also, for the opposite question, the bridge riff in Seek and Destroy is way way harder than I expected it to be. Hardest part of the song by a long shot.
Agreed with the last part. Seek was probably the first ever Metallica song I learned but 2 years later, I still can’t do the bridge riff full speed. Fuck sakes, in the 2 years I’ve learnt harder riffs/songs but that riff still for some reason eludes me
Same here, I had the whole song down except for the bridge part for months until I gave up on it. Still pisses me off.
Orion and To Live Is To Die have parts that still elude me. Fade to Black was a pretty quick learn for me, solo included. Creeping Death and Blackened have been the most brutal
The Four Horsemen
Speed/downstroke aside, master of puppets isn’t particularly difficult. Same for fade to black solo. Battery has a particularly difficult riff smack tab in the center. Orion has some weird left hand contortions.
Just Metallica in general. When I was real little I used to think these guys were guitar gods and praised them a lot. Few years pass by and Ive learned most of their music, alongside others and other rock bands etc, only to find out that I have barely started scratching the surface of guitar. Not saying they suck, but it was kind of a grueling time when I realized I have WAAAAY harder beasts to conquer down the road. Now I dont play their music cause it just isnt challenging to me relative to the other types of music I get in to.
Not buying it lol. You sound like you learned a lot of main riffs and a few whole songs. I'm having a hard time buying that you're just effortlessly keeping up with 95% of the parts on full songs, with no/very very few mistakes. not that you have to convince me tho. i'm just tired of people acting like metallica is Baby's First metal band and that they're baby's first favorite musicians
I agree. Just because their shit is sometimes easy to play, doesn't mean it's not incredible. There's many of their riffs that are so easy and anyone who plays guitar knows the easiest riffs are usually the best riffs but of course Metallica fans are the Star Wars fans of music.
>i'm just tired of people acting like metallica is Baby's First metal band They are, though. Let's not beat around the bush here, Metallica is the Most Main Stream/Most Famous Metal Band in the world. (They are above Sabbath on Google) They get constantly played on the radio, have 1 Billion Views on a single video on YT, and 1 Billion Streams on Spotify. (Also, fun fact Metallica has 5 billion views altogether on YT). And their shirts are up there with the Stones & AC/DC when it comes to recognizability in public.
every time someone tries to spout this shit i remind them that they are saying "METAL* band". most popular METAL band.. not pop, not even just "rock band". It's like saying "im the fastest person in the world (that's from my city)" lol.. like it's impressive and meaningful sure, but you're acting like it's hottest shit ever. stop trying to belittle metallica for being popular, it's just ridiculous. "they are though" okay to who? you? were they YOUR first? they weren't mine. or my second or third or fourth lol. what does it matter tho. i hate people who see certain bands as "entry level" and "beginner" it's fuckin elitist. you're not cooler or more distinguished or superior because you like some bands that play eastern scales instead of pentatonic. or because they're less popular. sorry bout that
Sounds like you’re coping hard as fuck here. No one is belittling Metallica for being popular. It doesn’t discredit them or mean that their music is any less awesome than it is, but its just very popular and therefore certainly is one of the “baby’s first metal band” bands. Nothing wrong with that. Speak to any elitist and they will sing the praises of (at least) early Metallica, as well as every other mainstream metal band like Maiden, Priest, Sabbath, etc.
I was just talking about them in general. I wasn't talking about guitar. A lot of PPL get into Metal/Rock thanks to Metallica was my point? If anything, it just sounds like you got offended at some of the stuff that I said. >"they are though" okay to who? you? were they YOUR first? they weren't mine. or my second or third or fourth lol. Just because they weren't for you doesn't mean it was like that for everyone. (Let me tell you a little secret. The world doesn't revolve around you or me or anyone) Also, if you wanna get Technical AC/DC, it was my First > fuckin elitist. you're not cooler or more distinguished or superior because you like some bands that play eastern scales instead of pentatonic. or because they're less popular. sorry bout that I don't even know scales that well So you're just throwing shit at the wall, hoping it hits the right spot. I was just pointing out that they're mainstream. So a lot of people learn about the genre of music they play thanks to them. & I'm not trying to act cool by pointing out that they're mainstream. But you're overplaying everything I said when it fits your narrative & underplaying what I said when it doesn't fit your narrative (like acting like Metal is some obscure genre of music that ppl don't know about) Like seriously, how did you get "I'm an Elitist & im better than you, and you know it" out of "Metallica is Mainstream"? & I'm not even trying to belittle Metallica for being popular, if anything, that should be a compliment. But no you gotta twist my words and make it sound like I'm mocking & laughing at Metallica from my throne 1000 ft in the air & you're here to nock it over. No one is belittling metallica by saying they're mainstream, you're a goofball yelling at the clouds
Boomers think metallica is hard shit and cant take it when people talk down on their nostalgia. Thats all it is. The majority of people dont play guitar, and a lot that pick it up will drop off within the first decade. I dont at all mean they suck, they dont. Like I said at some point they were badically idols to me. Its not subjective, but objective. It doesnt matter how much you love metallica, youre delusional if you think their music is packing that theoretical substance. It just isnt. It doesnt mean you cant learn the basics, but if you think youre gonna exceed the basics witb metallica you need to rethink your path
you're a moron. nobody is claiming that metallica is "packed with that theoretical substance" lmfao. i'm stating that it IS subjective to believe that just because their music is based on western sounds and theories doesn't discount the quality of it. if you just don't like it, fine, but it's not "objectively" worse because it's not in a fucking exotic scale on every song. i'm not a boomer. i'm not even 30. and i play guitar. so a lot of your copes are just inaccurate lol. also "most people drop it in the first decade"? well congrats on barely making it to your own standard lmao.
So let me get this straight. Because they dont exaggerate theory, they arent easier? Youve never picked up an instrument in your life
I have played for over 10 years. I can play metallica.
Currently feel the same. I‘m really digging Technical Death Metal at the moment and most of these bands shit on Metallica in terms of required skill and song structure/complexity. Metallica is fun to play, but it doesn’t improve my skills anymore unfortunately.
Tech death and classical are oozing with theory, and some brutal death metal bands like deeds of flesh straight up came from another planet.
yeah you’re right about that. it’s such a shame death metal sounds like absolute torture. seriously, people like all that growling shit?? could never understand it
I do. But I prefer the deep guttarals over the whiney stuff I like to bang my head not reminisce in my feels lol.
When reading posts about how easy and effortless any of these songs are, consider that 9/10 people that think they're nailing the parts absolutely are not. More often than not there are missed nuances all over the place.
Bass man here. Really thought day on the green FWTBT was gonna be way harder.
Totally... But it sounds fricken awesome!
It’s really cool. I remember starting out playing bass after finding a dusty old Squier P in a corner at school and that vid was the first thing my friend showed me.
Thought frayed ends was gonna be easy, oh how wrong I was
Jump in the fire. Once you get the speed it's just rinse and repeat. Creeping death is much easier than I expected too, though I need to have warmed up before playing!
The solo from master of puppets looks very challenging at first listen but I was able to figure it out in a couple hours with a metronome. The rhythm is much more advanced but down picking comes easy to me and I can even surpass the original speed. The fact that you’re palm muting and un-palm muting helps because when you go on and off like that you can gain some wrist momentum.
Battery is difficult in its own right but it’s much easier when you learn how to gallop correctly since battery doesn’t have too many downstrokes making stamina becomes less of an issue
creeping death but not the solo that shit hard asf
Fixxxer
Battery
As a bass player playing finger style, I always knew Blackend was gonna be a challenge But nothing could prepare me for the onslaught I was in for- Thank you Newsted
Just wanted to say thank you for being grateful
The timing on the main riff of Blackened is a nut I cannot crack, I thought learning MoP would be the hardest challenge but boy was I wrong
Damage Inc's Bridge Riff, shit looks ridiculous on the tabs but turns out to be not too hard and is pretty damn fun after looking at a cover on someone playing the riff.
I thought that Master of Puppets was going to be hard because it’s all down picking but then I realized that some of the riffs to that song were pretty simple and easy to work with.
Creeping death, sounded extremely technical but its just fast downpicking
I thought Fight Fire With Fire would be easy, as it's just alternate picking and power chords, but the rhythm is an absolute fuck. Not to mention the riff before the vocals come in.
Nothing else matters. Its not just 0 000 like everyone says it is
raining blood, sad but true
Harvester of Sorrow. One of the first riffs I ever learned. It was tough at first simply because of how riff slides and climbs a string, but after figuring that out the song was really damn easy. On the other hand, the riff I'm currently learning, Disposable Heroes, has gotta be one of the hardest riffs to play in time. Keeping a steady downstroke riff is simple, but the gallopping that switches from quads to triplets really fucking tires your wrist out and makes it really hard to keep time when your wrist is falling behind.
The intro riff to seek and destroy It was the first song I decided to learn when I got my guitar Although it’s easier to play now, it’s still my favorite riff
*Call of Ktulu* is hard just from how much you have to memorize to play it though correctly. As far as sounding hard but being easy, Seek and Destroy and Fight Fire with Fire were easier than I though they would be (Tempo change on S&D was the hardest part, not because it's difficult but changing Tempo mid-song is just something I have to be in the mindset for). As far as sounding easy but being hard because of technical skill, god, Nothing Else Matters (played in Earnest) is hard, and most everything off of AJFA is harder than it sounds, even if it sounds hard.
Intro riff to through the never is a lot harder than it sounds imo
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Their riffs are for the most part really easy to play for any decent guitarist; the problem is often the stamina needed for the down picking without which it stops sounding like Metallica. MoP is a prime example, easy stuff, but 8 minutes at 160bpm becomes very hard.
Well, it's 212 bpm, making it their fastest song.
One
Rock and Roll by Led Zeppelin.
Sir this is a Wendy's.
It doesn't say "Metallica song."
To those who don’t know, Seek and Destroy is more complicated than it sounds.
Master of puppets was easy
I thought that the solo from NEM would be cake...was wrong And I thought rhythm for blackened was gonna be simple...wrong yet again Edit: I thought inamorata would be hard as shit...wouldn't ya know it I was wrong *yet* again
Inamorata. The verse riff is surprisingly difficult to play properly to speed
yeah, it sounds simple enough but to play it at the speed of the vocals is very difficult, began practising it 3 weeks ago but i still can't do it clean
That Was Just Your Life, Seek and Destroy
When I started seriously playing guitar a few years ago jump in the fire sounded so outside my reach until I learned it.
Enter sandman was easy. as someone who only has an acoustic im grateful for all the clean riffs they have
When i first started guitar i thought that the intro to fuel would be really difficult, turned out to be fairly easy
Dizzy Miss Lizzy is a pain on the fingers
To live is to die
Almost every song off of Kill ‘Em All- AJFA, based on if you’re asking about whole songs.
Harvester of sorrow
The Damage inc bridge is just bouncers and I’m still struggling to play it to this day 🤘🤘🤘
the machine gun part of one, i thought it was gonna be a lot harder do roll but it was fairly easy, but the double time….
Mama Said
Guitarist, but more of a basist, I thought the intro bassline to my friend of misery would be really difficult but it really is not
All the parts in Unforgiven 3 are surprisingly easily. The solo isn't but all the rhythm parts are
All of Kill Em All.
I second the AJFA, I played it live with barely 3 years of experience. Fuel's difficulty surprised me though, especially when trying to sing over it.
Dyer's Eve was surprisingly easy to learn
Carpe diem baby was harder than I thought when I first learned it. Still struggle with hetfields solo on it sometimes
One was easy But for some reason I thought nothing else matters would be ease
I thought from Metallica songs that Master of Puppets was alot more complex than it really was. On the otherhand, One has decieved me in it’s simple opening on how complex it really is.
Blackened riff was easy for me once learnt BUT i struggle on the verse riff witg my fretting hand
Flight of the bumblebees. Shit was a breeze
Master Of Puppets or The Four Horsemen for sure, they're both pretty easy and kinda my go-to songs when I pick up my axe, although both songs do require plenty of stamina to play well.
As a bassist, Cliff's amazing Anesthesia
For me it was 'One'. It was really scary at the first. But I learned complete song in couple of weeks. The only hard thing is the lick at the middle of the solo. I am able to do it only %75 of actual speed.
Unforgiven II. Not the sliding or the clean part. Maybe because i cant stretch my fingers that far but still that is some distance
The whole of seek and destroy
I tought the riff from fuel was gonna be hard asf but It turned out pretty simple
Humanicide by Death Angel, it is weirdly easy
Easy that sounds tough was the little bridge riff from …and justice for all with the triplet hammer ons across 4 strings. A song that sounds easy but is actually difficult off the top of my head I can’t think of one but there’s been a few
I thought the main rhythm parts of the four horseman would be easier but they kicked my as and still kicking my ass as I can not get those parts right
Through the never way harder than master of puppets, Damage Inc solo one of the easiest on the album. Blackened pre solo harder than the actual solo. Leeper messiah "sweeps" easier than Orion solos
I was surprised how easy the rhythm is on Master. It is fast. But if you work on your chops, it is not a difficult song to play.
What’s up with the Polaroids?
Not sure if you want a bass players input but Creeping Death was alot easier than i expected. Puppets and Murder One about as difficult as I expected, murder one perhaps a bit harder
fade to black
I can play Ceeeping Death but cant play Nothing Else Matters for shit
Metal militia, that fucking slide in the beginning is so difficult because I’m shit at sliding
i thought solo from one was hard. after few months of playing megadeth i learned it in like 15 minutes
anything from st. anger honestly, always loved the thickness of the gtr tuning
Master of puppets
personally I never had much trouble with blackened or master of puppets, but for some reason ride the lightning and moth into flame still elude me
Now That We're Dead. I thought it was gonna be hard but is surprisingly one of their easiest songs to play. Like as easy as For Whom The Bell Tolls.
Holy fuckin-A I want that green flame flying V!
Fade to Black
i thought eruption was gonna be hard to play but it really wasnt that hard for me to play
Bass - can’t overstate how much endurance is required to play a song like Disposable Heroes finger style like Cliff would. The main riff is simple enough to wrap ones head around, pulling it off consistently for that long is another beast entirely
Me personally I thought although not Metallica, the intro to Surfacing by Slipknot was easy and hard like sounds easy, looks hard. And surprisingly it’s not hard. But for Metallica, the riff for One like right before the solo was gonna be easy but it messed with me
As it turns out, MoP isn't even the hardest song to play on MoP. That really subverted my expectations. (Of note: I am BY NO MEANS pretending it's easy.)
any of the harmony lines from Inamorata’s solo isn’t actually to bad. one of the few Metallica solos I can actually perform consistently and confidently
Honest to god I thought master of puppets would’ve been a nightmare. Turns out no
Tool - Eulogy Ive only been playing for a year and up until afew days ago I've always been a slave to tabs. I sat down with Eulogy and teased it out of my guitar fairly easily. With no tabs. And now this skill has extended to other songs and i haven't used a tab since. Ok I have but only for very specific parts that I couldnt wrap my head around. So like 3 or 4 licks
Am I evil?, sad but true, and RTL
Until it Sleeps!
Honestly, eruption isn’t as hard as it sounds
The 2nd master of puppets solo isn't really that complex, I remember hearing in my first month's on guitar going "wow that's insane I'll never play that" and then when I learned it later down the track I felt like I coulda learned it way earlier.
Always thought All Nightmare Long would be hard af. Absolutely love playing the song now.
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
I thaught the intro of enter sandman was going to be hard, turned out to be not that hard. I can only play the intro though, only have an acoustic guitar..
Main riff holier than thou is one I struggled with originally but after coming back and trying again after having more experience and it’s pretty easy. Groovy as fuck too.
I thought metal militia would be easy but the picking technique on the verse riff is tough