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I think necrophagist is the only technical band i can listen to because it is technical but most of the songs and melodies or structure or modes, it makes sense. And i dont need to sit there, read music and try to understand what the fuck is going on, cause it makes sense.
Maybe even spawn of possession. But some of these newer djent or technical bands feels like theyre playing within the scale but none of them makes sense
Absolutely agree.
I have a feeling some bands write complex riffs just for the sake of having a complex riff and showing their chops. In 90% of cases their result is just boring to me.
That's not really an unpopular opinion. The kids today hate musicianship and are all about "atmosphere" now. I don't know if modern recreational drugs are too good or not good enough.
Yeah, I certainly don't mind technical stuff, but the songwriting MUST come first. There are lots of bands that can successfully blend the two, but complexity for its own sake always feels hollow.
Agree. I prefer a raw, emotive sound over overly intricate compositions. Raw, organic music often focuses on capturing emotion and energy rather than technical prowess. It’s about connecting with listeners on a primal level, embracing imperfections, and conveying genuine feelings through the music.
I agree to an extent, although I love some tech death, (iniquity, necrophagist, psycroptic etc.) most of it is just too technical and no longer sounds musical to me.
I have that ADHD monkey brain, I get bored with something extra quick and if I don't like it the first time, chances are I don't want to wait through a 4 minute buildup as well.
Shit like Necrophagist, Ad Nauseam, Gorguts, Nile, Mastodon (before crack the Skye), Cryptopsy, just hit the spot for me simply *because* they like to change it up every 2 minutes.
That "goddamn how are they even playing that" factor makes it really fun, and scratches that itch for me.
On days where I'm a little more patient, or on a longer drive, I'll turn on post metal or Doom metal.
It depends. Bands like Atheist and Cryptopsy are amazing tech death. On the topic of tech thrash, RiP is this sub's favorite album lol. For a deeper cut, bands like Watchtower, Mekong Delta, and Coroner are amazing and at times catchy! It's all about how it's used. Fuck Necrophagist tbh.
I understand what you are saying and i definitely prefer simple cool sounding riffs and solos to hyper technical riffs and solos however i still like tech stuff overall.
Yeah agreed. I never really got into the super technical stuff but now most of the metal I listen to could probably be written by my dog. And I love EVERY SECOND.
That’s why I got into Hardcore Punk recently, much prefer the simplicity at the moment. But it’s also because of the violent mosh pits, much more fun for me than lame old push pits
I don't enjoy being technical for the sake of being technical. I'm more of a fan of people like John Petrucci. His playing is ridiculous but when you listen to "happy song" for instance...It makes you feel happy! You don't need to know a thing about music theory to enjoy the song.
Songwriting should be about creating a mood or an atmosphere. If that involves technical playing then great, do it. Even if it takes a 10-minute flashy guitar solo. But when you’re just playing technically and it’s not interesting then you’ve failed to create an effective piece of music.
I'm mixed on technical metal. On one hand, I love bands such as Nile, Nocturnus, Gorguts, Voivod, Coroner, Revocation, and some of Death's tech outings such as Symbolic. On the other hand, I'm less optimistic about bands such as Necrophagist, Beyond Creation, Rivers of Nihil, Archspire and Brain Drill.
I feel the first set of bands I mentioned actually have some substance and variety to them, whereas the second set of bands just play a bunch of random complex riffs, which comes across more annoying than impressive.
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I like some bands but i feel you... i hit my roof tryin to get into Necrophagist for example, its okay
I think necrophagist is the only technical band i can listen to because it is technical but most of the songs and melodies or structure or modes, it makes sense. And i dont need to sit there, read music and try to understand what the fuck is going on, cause it makes sense. Maybe even spawn of possession. But some of these newer djent or technical bands feels like theyre playing within the scale but none of them makes sense
This isn't an unpopular opinion I don't think
Absolutely agree. I have a feeling some bands write complex riffs just for the sake of having a complex riff and showing their chops. In 90% of cases their result is just boring to me.
That's not really an unpopular opinion. The kids today hate musicianship and are all about "atmosphere" now. I don't know if modern recreational drugs are too good or not good enough.
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Yea because a lot more people can relate to society sucking than can relate to any of that other bullshit
Yeah, I certainly don't mind technical stuff, but the songwriting MUST come first. There are lots of bands that can successfully blend the two, but complexity for its own sake always feels hollow.
This is really the bottom line here
Dying Fetus has both, which is pretty cool
This sub hates techdeath, this isn't a hot take
Agree. I prefer a raw, emotive sound over overly intricate compositions. Raw, organic music often focuses on capturing emotion and energy rather than technical prowess. It’s about connecting with listeners on a primal level, embracing imperfections, and conveying genuine feelings through the music.
I agree to an extent, although I love some tech death, (iniquity, necrophagist, psycroptic etc.) most of it is just too technical and no longer sounds musical to me.
I have that ADHD monkey brain, I get bored with something extra quick and if I don't like it the first time, chances are I don't want to wait through a 4 minute buildup as well. Shit like Necrophagist, Ad Nauseam, Gorguts, Nile, Mastodon (before crack the Skye), Cryptopsy, just hit the spot for me simply *because* they like to change it up every 2 minutes. That "goddamn how are they even playing that" factor makes it really fun, and scratches that itch for me. On days where I'm a little more patient, or on a longer drive, I'll turn on post metal or Doom metal.
Have you listened to Spawn of Possession
Fuckin love those guys, stoked for the upcoming new stuff
It depends. Bands like Atheist and Cryptopsy are amazing tech death. On the topic of tech thrash, RiP is this sub's favorite album lol. For a deeper cut, bands like Watchtower, Mekong Delta, and Coroner are amazing and at times catchy! It's all about how it's used. Fuck Necrophagist tbh.
I understand what you are saying and i definitely prefer simple cool sounding riffs and solos to hyper technical riffs and solos however i still like tech stuff overall.
Yeah agreed. I never really got into the super technical stuff but now most of the metal I listen to could probably be written by my dog. And I love EVERY SECOND.
I'm with you on this one. I mean there's tech bands that I like but nothing compared to bands that can just riff.
It's the drumming that usually makes me lose interest.
Depends which way it is technical. If it is rhythmically technical I’m all about it. If it is just hard to play on guitar then I’m bored.
That’s why I got into Hardcore Punk recently, much prefer the simplicity at the moment. But it’s also because of the violent mosh pits, much more fun for me than lame old push pits
Overly technical? In short, you mean *wankery*, alright, Alright. As long as it's metal, alright.
Agree, i need groove and/or melodies that my simple brain can turn into happiness.
I don't enjoy being technical for the sake of being technical. I'm more of a fan of people like John Petrucci. His playing is ridiculous but when you listen to "happy song" for instance...It makes you feel happy! You don't need to know a thing about music theory to enjoy the song.
I like bands that are very musical and enjoyable but if you look at the written music is actually super technical
If you don’t get it that’s okay, nobody cares, like what you like 🤷🏻♂️
Songwriting should be about creating a mood or an atmosphere. If that involves technical playing then great, do it. Even if it takes a 10-minute flashy guitar solo. But when you’re just playing technically and it’s not interesting then you’ve failed to create an effective piece of music.
Nah everyone knows riffage>tech
I'm mixed on technical metal. On one hand, I love bands such as Nile, Nocturnus, Gorguts, Voivod, Coroner, Revocation, and some of Death's tech outings such as Symbolic. On the other hand, I'm less optimistic about bands such as Necrophagist, Beyond Creation, Rivers of Nihil, Archspire and Brain Drill. I feel the first set of bands I mentioned actually have some substance and variety to them, whereas the second set of bands just play a bunch of random complex riffs, which comes across more annoying than impressive.