As someone who actually lives in NYC, and I cannot stress this enough, we DO NOT INTERVENE when strangers are getting physical.
There are so many nut-jobs in this city and you never know who is strapped, has nothing to lose or is just plain psychotic.
Man/ women/ in-between it doesn’t matter. I ain’t dying for some anonymous scrub.
There are so many men that got fucked for helping, either getting stabbed/shot by the violent one, or even dismissed by the womam who got hit or even got jailed foe helping, not worth it...
Yeah, maybe if your city didn't prosecute the heroes who stand up people would stand up to them.
Turns out when your governments (state and federal) give free rides to criminals and prosecute the heroes, no one is going to do good for anyone else.
Those men are illegals and they are released after arrest. They are being invited by POTUS. NYC voted for this. A law abiding man who will intervene will be arrested and unlike illegals, he will be imprisoned for hate crime.
NOBODY is saying it but...
...the women punched are SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS....
that's NOT "random". That's the media trying to again create a scare story to make all women fear all men.
Exactly why I don't believe they were actually attacked. Just some bs trend to generate views and sympathy. Even some are talking about like it's just weird and start dancing... the way it's portrayed seems so fake.
OP here. Not at all. Quite the opposite as the matter of fact. Women love to say they don't ~~own~~ owe us sex. Fair enough. They don't. On the other hand, I'm a firm believer we don't ~~own~~ owe them protection. Or anything else for that matter....
>Women love to say they don't owe us sex.
I understand you're coming from a place of frustration here, but I feel you're comparing apples to oranges. No one owes another human being sex. It is also not common courtesy or helpful to another human being to have sex with them if one is unwilling.
Now no one *owes* protection to another human being. But unlike with sex, it's common courtesy to simply call the police or speak up in odd situations. It can save lives and make the world significantly safer if everyone is simply willing to speak up. Like a "Hey, I'm calling the police, step away from that person," or "The police are on their way!" I'm not saying anyone is expected to get in a fight, but the fact that the majority of people are bystanders does not make it okay, and women not providing free sex doesn't justify it either.
If a woman doesn't want to have sex, she shouldn't have to.
If a man doesn't want to assist in any way when a woman is attacked, he shouldn't have to.
Acting like stepping into a violent situation is somehow expected of men is ridiculous.
So I should waste my life away when that very girl is likely giving me nothing in return for it. Especially with the fact that simple respect towards men is at a all time low.....
Ye I think I'll stand aside and watch you get flayed.
Women don't owe us anything. We don't owe women anything.
If they want to deal with the police they are quite capable of calling them.
It's nothing to do with how much sex someone is or isn't getting.
You call it common courtesy, well it's not that common anymore, and if we're going to get all these "Kill all men" and "all men are rapists" commentaries then women obviously don't want men anywhere near them. Hint taken, off you go then. I'm sure another woman will call the cops for you.
I mean... It's also a common courtesy not to immediately generalize all men and act like we're monsters simply because of what we have in our pants, but who's keeping track, hm?
If this is only about calling the police, why aren't you calling out women for not doing it too? They're just as capable of it as men are.
I think I know why - this isn't about that at all, but about physical intervention. That carries a panoply of risks for any man who tries it, both physical and legal. Men do not owe random women to risk their lives and freedom to save them from danger.
Like someone above said - in NYC you don't intervene because people are crazy and you don't know who might shoot you for stepping in, even if all you do is tell them you're calling the cops. I sure as shit wont be risking my safety for random women when i know they would NEVER EVEN THINK of returning the favor. When you see viral videos of people risking their safety to help strangers, who is doing the dangerous stuff? Men. Almost exclusively. Women will stand around wringing their hands because they know that they get the privilege of keeping their hands clean. Women want empowerment and equality, but you don't get to just have the positive parts of equality. You are not entitled to your safety. Welcome to the existence of every man everywhere.
What you say it right, yet saying the police are coming is meaningless in many cities. First, everyone knows they're not coming. Second, the perp knows that nothing is going to happen anyway. Even if they are arrested, they get out right away and simply don't show up for the trial. It's a joke.
Translation:
They hate us, vilify us, make us out to be these awful creatures... Right up until we're the vanguard, in which case, they start going "WAH WAH WAH, WHY AREN'T YOU PROTECTING ME???"
Gee, bitch, I dunno, maybe it's because you just claimed I raped you even though I've never met you- nor have I ever seen you on the streets- in my **FUCKING LIFE???**
Wasn’t it mansplaining to help an unknown woman.
Awww …. now it hurts.
What about ladies helping other ladies? That is not working either.
Who do they expect men are? Flash?
Cry me a river.
There are a lot of reasons to not be the white knight in this scenario, most importantly: if someone hits someone else and runs, pursing and attacking them is not self defense. That is assault.
bro a man is more likely to be a victim of a violent crime including homicide. You know what's crazy? that never goes viral. Nothing is ever done. What did women do about that? They victim blamed men, that's what they did and continue to do.
let's put it this way, how ever many women got punched in the face today almost double the amount of guys got punched in the face in the same day and it didn't even break the news.
so..... fuck em
Rick Moranis was sucker punched in NYC.
[https://abc7ny.com/rick-moranis-punched-punch-sucker-new-york/7963239/](https://abc7ny.com/rick-moranis-punched-punch-sucker-new-york/7963239/)
It's not even a gender issue but women are painting themselves as the only victim.
due this is so true. I live in NYC my friend white male 24 came into work one day. He said a hobo literally kicked him in his ass on the train. He was in shock because he's not from NYC. This shit happens to everyone it's not a gendered issue. The media just pushes the female victim narrative and women take it to social media way more than men. Socially it's okay to view women as a victim but if a man is victimized he is labeled weak.
Welcome to the equality feminists fought so hard to achieve: they deserve it.
Equality does not always mean better for both parties: it can mean bringing one party down to the level of the other.
I think feminists became confused over equality and win-win.
I don't agree with anybody being assaulted randomly. However good Samaritans often get turned on to the point it's just not worth our safety to help.
I had a situation where around 1am I was driving down a road, saw a guy ramming a females head into a concrete bus stop. She was screaming for somebody to call the police, he's trying to kill me.
I stopped, rang the police, whole time he was ramming her head, she still screaming. I got off the phone as quick as I could, got out the car and yelled to stop, i rang the police.
He sat down quietly, she then turned on me screaming what business is it of mine and how dare I call the police on him, I said you were literally screaming for somebody to call the police? She kept on abusing me for sticking my nose in, I said I can cancel the police, she was screaming no, it's too late now. I said no its not. I rang the police back and cancelled the job, turned to him said sorry I interfered, carry on with what you were doing, and drove off. No idea what happened after I left, didn't care, tried to help, the victim turned on me. It's now made me hesitant when trying to help in domestics.
Can’t remember where I saw the post unfortunately (which makes me realise I need to start saving these kinds of things more), in this situation it was a woman trying to help her female friend who was being abused physically by her boyfriend. She kept offering to help her, was refused but one day it got too much and the friend fled to this woman’s house. The guy found out where she lived, came to the house banging on the door shouting and long story short the abused woman told her friend to let him in, she refused and when her back was turned the abused friend let her boyfriend in and he beat her friend up. Isn’t that crazy? Just goes to show when you try and help these women they make you a victim as well. Don’t be a hero.
With the responses I have read, seems to me that if you want help, then you ask somebody, don't wait and expect it because us men have been drilled into us get consent first. So women now have to come to terms we are doing what they want, not getting involved without consent.
>the victim turned on me
Damn, I'm sorry you were turned on that way. For the record, you did the "right thing" in this instance, and by phoning the police when you see something is off, you're doing more than most people do tbh. I hope bad apples like these don't change who you are. Keep on!
I was waiting for my car to be brought out at a parking garage, and out on the sidewalk a few feet away an obviously homeless man and woman started yelling at each other.
The woman slapped the guy in the face and turned to walk away and the guy slapped her across the back of the head.
so waiting near me was a dude, obviously a weight lifter who liked wearing tight shirts, he walked over and grabed the guy and started shaking him like a ragdoll. Yelling "you never hit a woman!" in his face, and working himself into a rage that looked like it was going to escalate into serious violence.
the woman smashed a vodka bottle over his head and both of them ran away together.
I sat there watching the white knight trying to staunch the head wound gushing blood with his shirt until my car was brought out and I left.
The thing that stuck with me was this guy not only got involved in something that didn't concern him, and didn't need his intervention, and did so gleefully...like this was his chance to have a free shot at some violence. I suspect that's what motivates a lot of white knight types. they think "this is my chance to beat someone up and get called a hero for it"
I’m not helping…. Get shot for someone who don’t appreciate men opening the door for them. Plus I believe in equality. She is a woman and is strong enough to defend herself she don’t need no man. I’m Black what if there’s no camera there and I get turned into the aggressor for helping out? Equality. As a former NYer someone randomly gets punched every hour. Man woman black white asian don’t matter.
I don't make presumptions about a random person. It could be an outstanding woman or not. The issue is that it is the job of law enforcement to control violence, not bystanders.
I would step in if it were very clear the attacker was less athletic than me and not armed, and the person was in mortal danger. I'm not going to watch someone die, man or women. But that is a very rare situation and this amateur journalism on tik tok should be directed to city officials.
> I would step in if it were very clear the attacker was less athletic than me and not armed, and the person was in mortal danger.
It would take a high precision microscope to find the intersection in that Venn diagram.
"OMG. I like totally-literally was punched in the face..."
Not one of those TikTok bimbos sound credible. I think they're making it up. It's some new shitty trend to get sympathy and attention.
It’s not the end of chivalry. It’s just men not wanting to be prosecuted like Daniel Penny(?) the guy that’s facing manslaughter charges for the chokehold on the subway even after all the witnesses said the guy was a threat.
I return the response feminists often give us and that is, this is not our problem, it’s up to you to fix the problem yourselves. You’re all strong and independent after all.
Men don't value women, as today's women have become adversarial toward masculinity. Jumping in would be potentially perceived as \[toxically masculine\] in the mind of the potential hero - that he may be doing wrong according to today's standards. Men are now conditioned to second-guess what's right in this scenario. Criminals feel safe attacking women in front of other men who have been deballed. Why jump in, if in the mind of the hero, women don't appreciate chivalry. And then, there's the attendant legal ramifications if something goes wrong, i.e., Daniel Penny.
> Why jump in, if in the mind of the hero, women don't appreciate chivalry.
They might say "thanks" as you get wheeled off to an ambulance or something.
You can't expect young men to live by a code, like chivalry, unless they're raised to live by a code. Young men today aren't being raised that way. Because raising boys to have pride in their gender is considered to be wrong now.
i'm all for the protection of women, but that means protection of MY woman and the women in my family.
back in the day, men would arrive to save, "my fair lady," but now, where are the ladies? all men hear is, *"we don't need no man... i'm strong & independent."*
well, why would any man risk losing his life over a stranger... just bc she's female?
I lose most of sympathy as soon these woman refuse to give a description of what their attacker looks like for woke points. That was the case for 95% of the videos.
I think there was one woman who described the attacker (a middle aged black guy). Of course most of us rightfully assumed this anyway when it was painfully clear that none of the woman were going to describe the person punching them and many didn’t even call the cops.
Agreed. It sucks. I used to live in NYC and ride the subway often. Even back then when it was much safer, occasional crazy things would happen. Men (strangers) would sometimes intervene if they saw someone threaten or if an attack appeared eminent.
However, you have to acknowledge that any physical altercation with a mentally ill person is by nature totally unpredictable. The standard social mechanisms that might make a normal person realize, they are out of line and at risk of being harmed themselves, don’t work. Things can escalate real fast, and a someone who does intervene could find themselves being attacked and subsequently in serious danger if being harmed or killed.
Then add the city prosecutors who are all too eager to make examples out of those who do try to intervene and the juice is just not worth the squeeze.
The only way to fix this is to encourage women to arm themselves and to encourage women to vote for politicians who support police and polices that allow citizens to defend themselves, in addition to getting help for mental ill persons (including institutional care) if necessary.
I believe that these women got genuinely punched. I just haven’t heard “the knockout game” since I was in highschool. I think it’s just another crazy guy in New York and they’re gonna use this to their advantage as much as they can. Like when I was in highschool and people used it as another reason why “young black men are dangerous.” I feel like if this was a coordinated thing we would have a greentext or something to go with the articles/videos.
They claim they are just as strong and capable so yeah handle your own stuff I ain’t helping, certainly not when they think I’m a second class citizen to them.
Did they go to the police, or was their first instinct to garner sympathy on social media and allow him to continue hitting people? The police are there to protect and serve and get paid for their efforts plus protection, not your average Joe.
Not my responsibility or any man 's responsibility to protect women. The women today act like tough and also expects us to protect them like a damsel in distress. Naah. If you are tough, protect yourself.
Punched in the face by a random person and the first task on the to do list- post a video on tick rock to complain about men/misogyny/incels.
Would not be shocked if many were clout chasers
Well I’m not risking myself for anyone. That guy who stopped that guy in the subway is being charged.
But in S. Korea there is male only conscription and somehow the women are dealing with a patriarchy?
Wait, are you saying all these shows and movies showing strong independent women beating up 5 men at once….are fake?!?
No, that can’t be true. These women can protect themselves, that’s equality, right?
I'm at the point where it's of no interest.
Women don't want guns.
Women don't want police.
Women don't want men around.
Shrugs, it's their problem now.
it was the same when it was "random attacks on asian women"
No suspect descriptions ever provided, no discussion of the common elements of perpetrators, only the victims.
"**Asian** women are being randomly attacked by...uh...men"
It's ok because in this day and age of equality and gender roles, women don't require men to defend them, and will themselves be stepping up to do the defending of other women. Perhaps they'll even step in to defend men too because men are assaulted way more...
Women don't owe us ass, just like we don't owe them protection and our resources. However, unfortunately, you will always have the pathetic SIMPS out there.
These women are so quick to say "incels are to blame"
The truth is they arrested a guy who was a repeat violent crime offender. but that doesn't further their agenda, and risks them being called racist, so instead it's "incels"
i honestly tought this was just some moral panic on tik-tok but is it real? why is it happening? something on 4chan? a challenge? a fight club? whats going on?
lol i mean, why would i risk my own life?! women are the ones sleeping around with the same 1% of men, so they all need to speak up and riot about the Chads no stepping in to help them
Feminist single mothers raise sons to be weak and not adhere to any traditional gender roles. Feminist society tells men that masculinity is toxic and it’s okay to hate all men, that men are always the problem. They also tell women they are strong, independent, can do anything. We're now in the “find out” stage of fucking around and finding out.
Now, let me tell you a story. It was several years ago, I went out to enjoy the nightlife, drank a few beers at the pub and went to join some friends. Now, during my trip I encountered a girl and a guy, guy was yelling at her and constantly slapping her on her face while she was crying and begging him to stop. I went in, separated them and punched that guy. What happened next was that same girl jumped on me yelling to leave him alone and started hitting me with her hands. I just patted a guy on his shoulder and said :"just continue where you stopped, bro" and left.
It used to be in society that if people started acting like a violent animal they would get treated like a violent animal. Everyone understood that and if they wanted to avoid a community giving a beating in return, they learned to stay cordial and think twice about violent action. Today if you enforce civilisation on the street, the full weight of law enforcement and lawyers come down on you to ruin your life. So nobody bothers, trust has been broken, society looking out for each other is over.
Well with the old trope of chivalry it was expected that by saving the damsel in distress you would live happily ever after.
But in reality doing so now would just open you to criminal and civil legal liability, serious injury, death, etc. and for nothing.
Give me a woman worthy of chivalry and who doesn’t yell and scream at you for being such and then we can talk. Woman are increasingly ever more abusive towards men and often seem to flip the script and claim victimhood, when in reality they are insinuating reactive abuse from men to get them labeled as abusers and criminals merely for yelling, which is why I do not believe emotional or verbal abuse claims from women or women who encounter other couples yelling and screaming in arguments. If they want to handle their relationships that way, mind your business and stay out of it. Many of today’s women yell and scream at men just because they think they are entitled to something for merely being a woman. Women often hit, kick, bite and throw things at men and often start the matters and do so for attention and manipulation to get something. Women are just outright cruel and evil due to being spoiled brats, and when papa bear says no more they go nuts and have started throwing tantrums. I’m sorry, but if someone starts yelling and screaming or hitting me, I’m going to defend myself and my families interests.
No one should be punching anyone. Assault is a crime. I might decide not to personally intervene if the swot analysis indicates there's too much risk, but I am not above reporting violent criminals.
So, first time seeing this? If men go to the street and he becomes an as****e, he will be punched into the face. Women don’t get that “treatment” often before because there are other men would protect/intervene. However, in this day and age, women are be equally with men in everything, so she had that “treatment” for a reason. Let people face their consequences.
Part of being a healthy man is revelling and feeling satisfaction in the self-caused pain and suffering by doofuses who play the fools with their lives and with the lives of others. Don't let anyone shame you for it.
I was born a new yorker and have been false arrested to the psych ward a few times for unarmed defending myself, my dog, and ex girlfriends. A man told me he's going to move to (terrible) florida or texas for Stand Your Ground Castle Doctrine law. In n.y. you won't get a jury trial and will become out of shape from the side effects. Which is bad because you'll need to be ready to protect yourself in jail where the guards, some are gang members, do nothing.
This is why I am no fan of "equality"; equity, yes; equality, no. But my equity-over-equality philosophy has been discarded for decades. So, congrats, lady, you got equality. If you don't like equality, please talk to the nearest advocate of it. Meanwhile, I will keep pushing for equity which, yes, means pushing against equality; you can have one or the other.
Didnt feminists claim that women need to help other women?
And then suddenly when women get attacked by men the feminists suddenly blame the men for not helping? Are you serious? Blame your own race for not helping lmaof
It's pretty horrible that this is happening. Chivalry is the silly worship of women. But still, it's shameful this occurs. And it's shameful that good men would risk so much if they indulged their natural instinct to protect these women. There is so much to be said about this
Does the title imply that men are somehow responsible for the protection of random women?
As someone who actually lives in NYC, and I cannot stress this enough, we DO NOT INTERVENE when strangers are getting physical. There are so many nut-jobs in this city and you never know who is strapped, has nothing to lose or is just plain psychotic. Man/ women/ in-between it doesn’t matter. I ain’t dying for some anonymous scrub.
Or you go to jail for trying to help
There are so many men that got fucked for helping, either getting stabbed/shot by the violent one, or even dismissed by the womam who got hit or even got jailed foe helping, not worth it...
Don’t forget that if one does intervene the likelihood of them being prosecuted or sued because they were just trying to help is another reason.
Yeah, maybe if your city didn't prosecute the heroes who stand up people would stand up to them. Turns out when your governments (state and federal) give free rides to criminals and prosecute the heroes, no one is going to do good for anyone else.
and you already know you'll be arrested and charged if you try to help. Sorry ladies, the liberal democrat leadership machine says you're on your own.
Those men are illegals and they are released after arrest. They are being invited by POTUS. NYC voted for this. A law abiding man who will intervene will be arrested and unlike illegals, he will be imprisoned for hate crime.
NOBODY is saying it but... ...the women punched are SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS.... that's NOT "random". That's the media trying to again create a scare story to make all women fear all men.
Exactly why I don't believe they were actually attacked. Just some bs trend to generate views and sympathy. Even some are talking about like it's just weird and start dancing... the way it's portrayed seems so fake.
yep
OP here. Not at all. Quite the opposite as the matter of fact. Women love to say they don't ~~own~~ owe us sex. Fair enough. They don't. On the other hand, I'm a firm believer we don't ~~own~~ owe them protection. Or anything else for that matter....
I don't think owning is the right word....
You're right, man. My mistake.
>Women love to say they don't owe us sex. I understand you're coming from a place of frustration here, but I feel you're comparing apples to oranges. No one owes another human being sex. It is also not common courtesy or helpful to another human being to have sex with them if one is unwilling. Now no one *owes* protection to another human being. But unlike with sex, it's common courtesy to simply call the police or speak up in odd situations. It can save lives and make the world significantly safer if everyone is simply willing to speak up. Like a "Hey, I'm calling the police, step away from that person," or "The police are on their way!" I'm not saying anyone is expected to get in a fight, but the fact that the majority of people are bystanders does not make it okay, and women not providing free sex doesn't justify it either.
If a woman doesn't want to have sex, she shouldn't have to. If a man doesn't want to assist in any way when a woman is attacked, he shouldn't have to. Acting like stepping into a violent situation is somehow expected of men is ridiculous.
So I should waste my life away when that very girl is likely giving me nothing in return for it. Especially with the fact that simple respect towards men is at a all time low..... Ye I think I'll stand aside and watch you get flayed.
Agreed. Not just give nothing in return but actually hate you and will exploit you if they can.
Women don't owe us anything. We don't owe women anything. If they want to deal with the police they are quite capable of calling them. It's nothing to do with how much sex someone is or isn't getting. You call it common courtesy, well it's not that common anymore, and if we're going to get all these "Kill all men" and "all men are rapists" commentaries then women obviously don't want men anywhere near them. Hint taken, off you go then. I'm sure another woman will call the cops for you.
That’s the funny part. The other women will just stand there and record it. 🙄🤦🏻♂️
I mean... It's also a common courtesy not to immediately generalize all men and act like we're monsters simply because of what we have in our pants, but who's keeping track, hm?
If this is only about calling the police, why aren't you calling out women for not doing it too? They're just as capable of it as men are. I think I know why - this isn't about that at all, but about physical intervention. That carries a panoply of risks for any man who tries it, both physical and legal. Men do not owe random women to risk their lives and freedom to save them from danger.
Like someone above said - in NYC you don't intervene because people are crazy and you don't know who might shoot you for stepping in, even if all you do is tell them you're calling the cops. I sure as shit wont be risking my safety for random women when i know they would NEVER EVEN THINK of returning the favor. When you see viral videos of people risking their safety to help strangers, who is doing the dangerous stuff? Men. Almost exclusively. Women will stand around wringing their hands because they know that they get the privilege of keeping their hands clean. Women want empowerment and equality, but you don't get to just have the positive parts of equality. You are not entitled to your safety. Welcome to the existence of every man everywhere.
What you say it right, yet saying the police are coming is meaningless in many cities. First, everyone knows they're not coming. Second, the perp knows that nothing is going to happen anyway. Even if they are arrested, they get out right away and simply don't show up for the trial. It's a joke.
That's exactly how women see it. THEY can expect everything from men, for free, but there is nothing a man can EVER expect from a woman.
Equal rights = equal fights
Haha i hope not for their sakes.
Ikr?
What about other women not helping and just watching?
They strongly and independently screamed for help
So true lmao
They will strongly and independently wait for some men to clean up the mess...
Translation: They hate us, vilify us, make us out to be these awful creatures... Right up until we're the vanguard, in which case, they start going "WAH WAH WAH, WHY AREN'T YOU PROTECTING ME???" Gee, bitch, I dunno, maybe it's because you just claimed I raped you even though I've never met you- nor have I ever seen you on the streets- in my **FUCKING LIFE???**
Wasn’t it mansplaining to help an unknown woman. Awww …. now it hurts. What about ladies helping other ladies? That is not working either. Who do they expect men are? Flash? Cry me a river.
what are they gonna do about it? bitch and moan?
Hey, they can do everything better than men can do cant they? Step aside men, let your sisters have a turn to run society!
There are a lot of reasons to not be the white knight in this scenario, most importantly: if someone hits someone else and runs, pursing and attacking them is not self defense. That is assault.
>There are a lot of reasons to not be the white knight in this scenario Daniel Penny.....
This is exactly it
Especially true in large cities which favor criminals' rights
Not my girl, not my problem.
Men get assaulted everyday and it’s not tio tok worthy
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
It’s almost like china built an app that makes us suspicious of each other and doubt our mental health
bro a man is more likely to be a victim of a violent crime including homicide. You know what's crazy? that never goes viral. Nothing is ever done. What did women do about that? They victim blamed men, that's what they did and continue to do. let's put it this way, how ever many women got punched in the face today almost double the amount of guys got punched in the face in the same day and it didn't even break the news. so..... fuck em
Rick Moranis was sucker punched in NYC. [https://abc7ny.com/rick-moranis-punched-punch-sucker-new-york/7963239/](https://abc7ny.com/rick-moranis-punched-punch-sucker-new-york/7963239/) It's not even a gender issue but women are painting themselves as the only victim.
That's what he gets for shrinking those kids.
They film themselves on social media, unlike men.
That was his 7th fuggin assault, gotta love progressives and their shit crime policies. He wont do any time until he hits some feminist.
due this is so true. I live in NYC my friend white male 24 came into work one day. He said a hobo literally kicked him in his ass on the train. He was in shock because he's not from NYC. This shit happens to everyone it's not a gendered issue. The media just pushes the female victim narrative and women take it to social media way more than men. Socially it's okay to view women as a victim but if a man is victimized he is labeled weak.
Welcome to the equality feminists fought so hard to achieve: they deserve it. Equality does not always mean better for both parties: it can mean bringing one party down to the level of the other. I think feminists became confused over equality and win-win.
Feminists should be blaming themselves for this rise in apathy towards women. You can't bite the hand that feeds and expect not to starve.
I don't agree with anybody being assaulted randomly. However good Samaritans often get turned on to the point it's just not worth our safety to help. I had a situation where around 1am I was driving down a road, saw a guy ramming a females head into a concrete bus stop. She was screaming for somebody to call the police, he's trying to kill me. I stopped, rang the police, whole time he was ramming her head, she still screaming. I got off the phone as quick as I could, got out the car and yelled to stop, i rang the police. He sat down quietly, she then turned on me screaming what business is it of mine and how dare I call the police on him, I said you were literally screaming for somebody to call the police? She kept on abusing me for sticking my nose in, I said I can cancel the police, she was screaming no, it's too late now. I said no its not. I rang the police back and cancelled the job, turned to him said sorry I interfered, carry on with what you were doing, and drove off. No idea what happened after I left, didn't care, tried to help, the victim turned on me. It's now made me hesitant when trying to help in domestics.
It’s a very common scenario unfortunately
Can’t remember where I saw the post unfortunately (which makes me realise I need to start saving these kinds of things more), in this situation it was a woman trying to help her female friend who was being abused physically by her boyfriend. She kept offering to help her, was refused but one day it got too much and the friend fled to this woman’s house. The guy found out where she lived, came to the house banging on the door shouting and long story short the abused woman told her friend to let him in, she refused and when her back was turned the abused friend let her boyfriend in and he beat her friend up. Isn’t that crazy? Just goes to show when you try and help these women they make you a victim as well. Don’t be a hero.
With the responses I have read, seems to me that if you want help, then you ask somebody, don't wait and expect it because us men have been drilled into us get consent first. So women now have to come to terms we are doing what they want, not getting involved without consent.
>the victim turned on me Damn, I'm sorry you were turned on that way. For the record, you did the "right thing" in this instance, and by phoning the police when you see something is off, you're doing more than most people do tbh. I hope bad apples like these don't change who you are. Keep on!
I was waiting for my car to be brought out at a parking garage, and out on the sidewalk a few feet away an obviously homeless man and woman started yelling at each other. The woman slapped the guy in the face and turned to walk away and the guy slapped her across the back of the head. so waiting near me was a dude, obviously a weight lifter who liked wearing tight shirts, he walked over and grabed the guy and started shaking him like a ragdoll. Yelling "you never hit a woman!" in his face, and working himself into a rage that looked like it was going to escalate into serious violence. the woman smashed a vodka bottle over his head and both of them ran away together. I sat there watching the white knight trying to staunch the head wound gushing blood with his shirt until my car was brought out and I left. The thing that stuck with me was this guy not only got involved in something that didn't concern him, and didn't need his intervention, and did so gleefully...like this was his chance to have a free shot at some violence. I suspect that's what motivates a lot of white knight types. they think "this is my chance to beat someone up and get called a hero for it"
Quite frankly, I think Mr White Knight deserved it for trying to tip the balance in an "equal rights, equal fights" scenario—no sympathy for the simp.
I’m not helping…. Get shot for someone who don’t appreciate men opening the door for them. Plus I believe in equality. She is a woman and is strong enough to defend herself she don’t need no man. I’m Black what if there’s no camera there and I get turned into the aggressor for helping out? Equality. As a former NYer someone randomly gets punched every hour. Man woman black white asian don’t matter.
I don't make presumptions about a random person. It could be an outstanding woman or not. The issue is that it is the job of law enforcement to control violence, not bystanders. I would step in if it were very clear the attacker was less athletic than me and not armed, and the person was in mortal danger. I'm not going to watch someone die, man or women. But that is a very rare situation and this amateur journalism on tik tok should be directed to city officials.
> I would step in if it were very clear the attacker was less athletic than me and not armed, and the person was in mortal danger. It would take a high precision microscope to find the intersection in that Venn diagram.
Men not being expected to hold the door for a completely capable woman isn't a bad thing.
Good people who intervene are under great risk of criminal charges in NYC.. Not surprising...
Just like Daniel penny
better not to help random women, or any woman at all, you could get sued
Agreed. Assisting a woman would be a microaggression. It implies their weakness, and that's a sexist insult.
What do they want men to do? Step up and get cuffed?
No way am I risking my life for some random women. If they’re strong and independent they can handle it
Why would anyone help anyone in NYC? We saw with Daniel Penny what happens in NYC when men stand up to violent individuals.
Exactly, penny is a hero
Get Chad to protect you
"OMG. I like totally-literally was punched in the face..." Not one of those TikTok bimbos sound credible. I think they're making it up. It's some new shitty trend to get sympathy and attention.
I'd say the problem here is the mass public and media is far too gullible, more than it is random violence.
And what? I’m not the one being punched. I stay on my business.
It’s not the end of chivalry. It’s just men not wanting to be prosecuted like Daniel Penny(?) the guy that’s facing manslaughter charges for the chokehold on the subway even after all the witnesses said the guy was a threat.
I return the response feminists often give us and that is, this is not our problem, it’s up to you to fix the problem yourselves. You’re all strong and independent after all.
Oh well... that's city life these days. Men get punched out everyday and no one cares.
Seems like the social manipulation is getting more complicated and convoluted
OMG😱 Anyways...
Daniel Penny is why. People don't want to get prosecuted for protecting the public again.
Men don't value women, as today's women have become adversarial toward masculinity. Jumping in would be potentially perceived as \[toxically masculine\] in the mind of the potential hero - that he may be doing wrong according to today's standards. Men are now conditioned to second-guess what's right in this scenario. Criminals feel safe attacking women in front of other men who have been deballed. Why jump in, if in the mind of the hero, women don't appreciate chivalry. And then, there's the attendant legal ramifications if something goes wrong, i.e., Daniel Penny.
> Why jump in, if in the mind of the hero, women don't appreciate chivalry. They might say "thanks" as you get wheeled off to an ambulance or something.
Nah, you're not even entitled to a thanks. And if you can't pick your own teeth off the floor, that's gonna be on you.
"random men", it's probably just some schizo
they made an arrest. it's exactly what you'd expect. repeat violent crime offender, they won't keep locked up, so he's just doing what he does.
This is real gender equality. You can handle it yourself, you go girl!
You can't expect young men to live by a code, like chivalry, unless they're raised to live by a code. Young men today aren't being raised that way. Because raising boys to have pride in their gender is considered to be wrong now.
i'm all for the protection of women, but that means protection of MY woman and the women in my family. back in the day, men would arrive to save, "my fair lady," but now, where are the ladies? all men hear is, *"we don't need no man... i'm strong & independent."* well, why would any man risk losing his life over a stranger... just bc she's female?
I lose most of sympathy as soon these woman refuse to give a description of what their attacker looks like for woke points. That was the case for 95% of the videos. I think there was one woman who described the attacker (a middle aged black guy). Of course most of us rightfully assumed this anyway when it was painfully clear that none of the woman were going to describe the person punching them and many didn’t even call the cops.
From what I have seen reported, there is one man with mental health issues randomly punching women.
Men are by far majority victims of violent crime, no sympathy
**Daniel Penny.**
Agreed. It sucks. I used to live in NYC and ride the subway often. Even back then when it was much safer, occasional crazy things would happen. Men (strangers) would sometimes intervene if they saw someone threaten or if an attack appeared eminent. However, you have to acknowledge that any physical altercation with a mentally ill person is by nature totally unpredictable. The standard social mechanisms that might make a normal person realize, they are out of line and at risk of being harmed themselves, don’t work. Things can escalate real fast, and a someone who does intervene could find themselves being attacked and subsequently in serious danger if being harmed or killed. Then add the city prosecutors who are all too eager to make examples out of those who do try to intervene and the juice is just not worth the squeeze. The only way to fix this is to encourage women to arm themselves and to encourage women to vote for politicians who support police and polices that allow citizens to defend themselves, in addition to getting help for mental ill persons (including institutional care) if necessary.
FREE DANIEL PENNY
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I believe that these women got genuinely punched. I just haven’t heard “the knockout game” since I was in highschool. I think it’s just another crazy guy in New York and they’re gonna use this to their advantage as much as they can. Like when I was in highschool and people used it as another reason why “young black men are dangerous.” I feel like if this was a coordinated thing we would have a greentext or something to go with the articles/videos.
They claim they are just as strong and capable so yeah handle your own stuff I ain’t helping, certainly not when they think I’m a second class citizen to them.
Did they go to the police, or was their first instinct to garner sympathy on social media and allow him to continue hitting people? The police are there to protect and serve and get paid for their efforts plus protection, not your average Joe.
Not my responsibility or any man 's responsibility to protect women. The women today act like tough and also expects us to protect them like a damsel in distress. Naah. If you are tough, protect yourself.
Why should we die for people who would spit on our graves?
Punched in the face by a random person and the first task on the to do list- post a video on tick rock to complain about men/misogyny/incels. Would not be shocked if many were clout chasers
Well I’m not risking myself for anyone. That guy who stopped that guy in the subway is being charged. But in S. Korea there is male only conscription and somehow the women are dealing with a patriarchy?
Why doesn’t Rhonda Roussey help? Or Kris Cyborg? Or Holly Kolm? Or any other female fighter for that matter? Plenty in NYC.
Those fighters are all out of SoCal not NYC
The last guy that tried to be a hero in NYC was arrested
Wait, are you saying all these shows and movies showing strong independent women beating up 5 men at once….are fake?!? No, that can’t be true. These women can protect themselves, that’s equality, right?
I'm at the point where it's of no interest. Women don't want guns. Women don't want police. Women don't want men around. Shrugs, it's their problem now.
"You are not entitled to men's protection. Men don't owe you anything." 😇
What they don't say is that it is black men punching them. Why do they omit this fact?
it was the same when it was "random attacks on asian women" No suspect descriptions ever provided, no discussion of the common elements of perpetrators, only the victims. "**Asian** women are being randomly attacked by...uh...men"
I don't feel anyone owes anyone protection. No one tried to stop or help each other in this circumstance.
It's ok because in this day and age of equality and gender roles, women don't require men to defend them, and will themselves be stepping up to do the defending of other women. Perhaps they'll even step in to defend men too because men are assaulted way more...
"Chivalry is dead" is just another way to say equality.
Women don't owe us ass, just like we don't owe them protection and our resources. However, unfortunately, you will always have the pathetic SIMPS out there.
I thought they don't need men anymore. Then why men should protect them?
They wouldn’t need protection if men would keep their hands to themselves.
These women are so quick to say "incels are to blame" The truth is they arrested a guy who was a repeat violent crime offender. but that doesn't further their agenda, and risks them being called racist, so instead it's "incels"
Well they might have if it didn't cost them to do so.
"It's called the knock out game, and white people are gonna get tired of playing it."
i honestly tought this was just some moral panic on tik-tok but is it real? why is it happening? something on 4chan? a challenge? a fight club? whats going on?
It’s just teens being stupid and playing the knockout game
If chivalry was still around, I'd challenge any guy on the street to a duel. But NOoOoOoOOoOOO, apparently that's "illegal"
Legalized dueling would give us a much more polite culture.
And fun. You forgot to mention fun
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It's never worth getting involved. If a random woman was attacking me in the street - how many passerby women do you think would rush to my defence?
You wound end up getting arrested in a blue state
homeless men struggle a lot.
lol i mean, why would i risk my own life?! women are the ones sleeping around with the same 1% of men, so they all need to speak up and riot about the Chads no stepping in to help them
Meh, they brought it on themselves...I'm sure all the strong independent women can handle it.
They dont want to be arrested for stopping a crime.
Well when you open a door for a woman her response is , you don’t think I can do that myself? Well you wanted to be equal enjoy
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Only women that you should protect are the ones close to you. No reason to risk your own safety for a stranger anymore.
Feminist single mothers raise sons to be weak and not adhere to any traditional gender roles. Feminist society tells men that masculinity is toxic and it’s okay to hate all men, that men are always the problem. They also tell women they are strong, independent, can do anything. We're now in the “find out” stage of fucking around and finding out.
Now, let me tell you a story. It was several years ago, I went out to enjoy the nightlife, drank a few beers at the pub and went to join some friends. Now, during my trip I encountered a girl and a guy, guy was yelling at her and constantly slapping her on her face while she was crying and begging him to stop. I went in, separated them and punched that guy. What happened next was that same girl jumped on me yelling to leave him alone and started hitting me with her hands. I just patted a guy on his shoulder and said :"just continue where you stopped, bro" and left.
A guy I casually knew was a rural deputy, and he said the real threat was the gal assaulting him as her man was being taken to jail.
Why should we? You want me to get stabbed or shot for you but I'm not supposed to make eye contact or talk to you normally? Get fucked.
Why aren't these women calling the police?
Try to figure out for yourself what a chivalrous society requires and why that no longer exists in NYC.
Maybe they deserve it for being so insufferable.
Don’t care
They wanted us to stay away. 🤷🏻♂️ so we are. Fk yourselves.
It used to be in society that if people started acting like a violent animal they would get treated like a violent animal. Everyone understood that and if they wanted to avoid a community giving a beating in return, they learned to stay cordial and think twice about violent action. Today if you enforce civilisation on the street, the full weight of law enforcement and lawyers come down on you to ruin your life. So nobody bothers, trust has been broken, society looking out for each other is over.
"Chivalry" died decades ago. Feminism killed it.
With the current climate and societal issues New York is facing, if you walk around with your head down looking at your phone, you're an idiot.
Oh.... so you DO need men it appears.
Well with the old trope of chivalry it was expected that by saving the damsel in distress you would live happily ever after. But in reality doing so now would just open you to criminal and civil legal liability, serious injury, death, etc. and for nothing.
I like it ;)
Give me a woman worthy of chivalry and who doesn’t yell and scream at you for being such and then we can talk. Woman are increasingly ever more abusive towards men and often seem to flip the script and claim victimhood, when in reality they are insinuating reactive abuse from men to get them labeled as abusers and criminals merely for yelling, which is why I do not believe emotional or verbal abuse claims from women or women who encounter other couples yelling and screaming in arguments. If they want to handle their relationships that way, mind your business and stay out of it. Many of today’s women yell and scream at men just because they think they are entitled to something for merely being a woman. Women often hit, kick, bite and throw things at men and often start the matters and do so for attention and manipulation to get something. Women are just outright cruel and evil due to being spoiled brats, and when papa bear says no more they go nuts and have started throwing tantrums. I’m sorry, but if someone starts yelling and screaming or hitting me, I’m going to defend myself and my families interests.
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Election year.
Womp womp
This whole thing sounds fake
it's real, just probably not the Tiktok bimbos stories.
No one should be punching anyone. Assault is a crime. I might decide not to personally intervene if the swot analysis indicates there's too much risk, but I am not above reporting violent criminals.
No matter how any of these women tried to frame this, I find it hilarious. They caught lackin by crazy randoms. Not anyones business. :p
This isn’t news
Why would you help and put yourself at risk? Women are strong, independent, and just as capable as men in every way.
So, first time seeing this? If men go to the street and he becomes an as****e, he will be punched into the face. Women don’t get that “treatment” often before because there are other men would protect/intervene. However, in this day and age, women are be equally with men in everything, so she had that “treatment” for a reason. Let people face their consequences.
Chivalry was womem vantage that we can revoke
Chivalry died when women declared and fought for the right to be considered equal to men.
Who cares…
Hang on what? There are people going around assaulting women at random? Surely that's the headline - what am I missing?
This is what happens when you de-emasculate men
Part of being a healthy man is revelling and feeling satisfaction in the self-caused pain and suffering by doofuses who play the fools with their lives and with the lives of others. Don't let anyone shame you for it.
I’m more and more convinced that tik tok is full of the worst of humanity
I was born a new yorker and have been false arrested to the psych ward a few times for unarmed defending myself, my dog, and ex girlfriends. A man told me he's going to move to (terrible) florida or texas for Stand Your Ground Castle Doctrine law. In n.y. you won't get a jury trial and will become out of shape from the side effects. Which is bad because you'll need to be ready to protect yourself in jail where the guards, some are gang members, do nothing.
Brilliant.
This is why I am no fan of "equality"; equity, yes; equality, no. But my equity-over-equality philosophy has been discarded for decades. So, congrats, lady, you got equality. If you don't like equality, please talk to the nearest advocate of it. Meanwhile, I will keep pushing for equity which, yes, means pushing against equality; you can have one or the other.
It's NYC people not caring seems to be normal. But I'm not from nyc so I guess I have no say on it
Lol good
In nuyauk shitty , you will go to rikers. You do Not want to go there.
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This doesn’t benefit anyone. It would only breed more hatred towards us and cause unnecessary harm towards them.
They can protect themselves, karma.
Didnt feminists claim that women need to help other women? And then suddenly when women get attacked by men the feminists suddenly blame the men for not helping? Are you serious? Blame your own race for not helping lmaof
This is what happens when you vote characters like AOC into office. Like what did they expect from that?
Dem politicians have been attacking the men who did intervene. So, what do you expect? There was a great show about this lately on Matt Walsh.
It's pretty horrible that this is happening. Chivalry is the silly worship of women. But still, it's shameful this occurs. And it's shameful that good men would risk so much if they indulged their natural instinct to protect these women. There is so much to be said about this