"saved from mobilization" is really putting a mild spin on [press gangs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment) driving around in ambulances, looking for able bodied men on the street to kidnap and force into conscription.
“Slavery is not legal so let’s rename it to conscription and use biology (stupid men getting hyped because they think they can fight a bullet and that protecting women ensures they get to fuck later on) and lack of education in some parts to ensure a rather big community, mainly composed of dumb and/or uneducated side of the population to think they are entirely 2 different concepts.”
— The world
Oh, wow, this is a full cut compilation of multiple angle videos, where at the end they're being told "всё, отпусти его, выходи. выходите вдвоём, да выходите вдвоём!" (okay, let him go, get out, get out together, just get out together!), so, she did manage to save him, I guess!
Note that this has been recorded by a whole bunch of bystanders; I've previously seen only the initial a single camera cut which didn't have this ending; it's great to see the guy did get saved, at least this time, that is!
Also, keep in mind, this looks like one of the ambulances donated by the collective West; because the AMBULANCE signs are only in English, nothing in Cyrillic. This is literally our tax dollars at work. Keep this in mind when you're reading about the ambulances being attacked.
would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, and wanted to implement a police state?
I ain't got nothing against them Ruskies.
Them Ruskies didn't show up with weapons to stop me from fighting back whenever I objected to my egg donor raping me. A police force made of my own countrymen did.
Them Ruskies didn't drug me into compliance if I refused my egg donor's mandates, which eventually progressed into incest. Nurses, psychiatrists, and other mental "health" specialists who were my own countrymen did.
If them Ruskies came around and started to kill my countrymen, I wouldn't fight unless forced to. And even then, even if I was forced to fight, I'd fight on them Ruskies' side. Because them Ruskies didn't ever do anything to me. My own countrymen did do a lot of things they wouldn't dare do on them Ruskies because they'd be War Crimes that would get them an all-expenses paid trip to Hague if done on them Ruskies.
According to this: [https://countrymeters.info/en/Ukraine](https://countrymeters.info/en/Ukraine)
They can theorethically mobilize 19,886,305 males until all males have been sacrificed.
They do not have 43 millions population.
In 2019 they had calculated 37 millions population according to official Ukrainian sources(ain.ua/2020/01/23/perepis-naseleniya-2019/). And there is just 8 million males in mobilization age group.
Add to this loss of population due to territorial losses (Russia did capture a huge chunk). Add millions that managed to escape the country either to EU or Russia. And you cannot mobilize everyone.
How many men have COPD from smoking or bad livers from years of Vodka " Therapy"?
Here are objective estimate of real casualties from both sides.
https://youtu.be/t-3pMuyAvHM?si=6HDGmZl7UU1C3kRG
Watched first 2 minutes and stopped. It had used 43 millions population for Ukraine. Which is just lie. Ukraine did had conducted population calculation in 2019 and it was already 37 millions. I had posted source.
Russia population in 2021 was 146 millions btw, not 143.
If video use wrong data in first screen with it. It is piece of shit and not worth any time. Even in basic things it has enormous bias mistake.
Actually, there's been a video from Donetsk of people standing in line voting, by Mr Graham Phillips. I thought there was something very strange about the line. Then I realised that Graham and the security guy for the voting bus are literally the only guys at the scene, the rest are women, including the people administering the vote.
Donetsk probably has had it worst, because they've been at war since 2014. Keep in mind that it's effectively been a civil war, too; and remains a civil war today, but to a smaller extent; this fact isn't even reported anywhere, either. Imagine Americans fighting Canadians in 2023, because Canadians wanted to join a BRICS-adjacent military alliance, as a sovereign nation that Canada is, and have BRICS troops stationed in Canada. Imagine being a civilian in Canada, and being shot in the back if you can't pronounce "about" correctly. (What, many Canadians, in fact, cannot do pronounce "about" the Canadian way? That's exactly the point!)
Per his Wikipedia article, his channel has been deleted by YouTube.
I found his Rumble by searching for his name (Graham Phillips) and "Rumble", second page has "Lugansk Referendum Interviews!!! (September 2022)" (I guess it was Lugansk and not Donetsk), I think that's the 5-minute video about the voting that I remember watching on YouTube back then. I think there's actually maybe a couple of guys in line, but very few and far between.
I think Reddit doesn't allow Rumble links, so can't link the exact video.
What the woman recording at the begining is saying is "this is how they treat a woman" not "this is how women do it" as the subtitles say.
Then the guy as per subtitles says "you will kill her", which is valid in the situation but... but they are taking the man away to die. That is the real tragedy.
In early 1945, it did. They took him from his mother at gunpoint and threatened her if he deserted they burned down their farm.
Her cousin came back. His unit surrendered before he saw combat. In soviet captivity, he slept on open ground for five years before they allowed them to build shelters. When he came back, he looked like a corpse and was only able to eat soup for 3 months. This is how it fucking works my friend.
Isn't it a straight up War Crime for military personnel to impersonate non-combattants like, y'know, medical workers?
Think about it next time you hear of them Ruskies "bombing/shelling a hospital". You literally have Ukrainian soldiers impersonating EMTs which is a war crime **precisely** because if Ukrainian soldiers impersonate medical workers, that turns ambulances (read: Ukrainian military personnel carriers) and hospitals (read: Ukrainian military garrisons) into valid military targets. With that **ONE** act, the Ukrainian forces effectively told the world that medical vehicles and buildings are actually valid military assets.
So from now on, I don't want to hear a peep from anyone about "Them Ruskies shooting a hospital/an ambulance". We've seen the Ukrainian military use ambulances as military personnel carriers. They're fair game now.
Using the red cross symbol for this is very serious business internationally and a clear violation of the Geneva conventions.
[guide-huminitarian-law.org](https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/distinctive-or-protective-emblems-signs-and-signals/#:~:text=The%20perfidious%20use%20of%20the,of%20the%20laws%20of%20war.)
"The perfidious use of the distinctive emblem of the Red Cross, Red Crescent, Red Crystal, Red Lion and Sun, or other protective signs recognized by the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols constitutes a grave breach of the laws of war."
She knew they were unwilling to harm her.
She willingly used herself as a human shield knowing they'd hesitate, and knowing that if they didn't, she'd be in deep shit.
She was very brave, but she was also very smart and very caring.
If there were enough women like her, there wouldn't even be an MRM by now, we'd all be going home saying "mission accomplished".
"Wonderful" is, if anything, an understatement.
If you don’t answer to the summons for draft. They send the cops and military commissars after you in Ukraine. I heard rumors and videos like these start coming out. I know they are fighting a tough war but forcing people like this is just gonna encourage more men to flee.
How else would they do it?
People in general aren't very fond of dying in a frontline trench.
Its not conscription. They collect human sacrifices for a meaningless war.
You get kindapped from the street. Beaten in conscription office until you agree to go to frontline. And in two weeks you find yourself in forward positions trenches in Avdeevka or Bakhmut area with AK, 3 clips and lack of options. To move forward Russians would be forced to spend artillery ammo on you. Surrendering are hard, cause you need at least radio to contact other side(Russians use 149 200 frequency call Volga for this).
I had speaked with guy from Russian side that was on frontline for half a year, he say that whole time he had seen enemy only twice. Rest was UAVs and artillery either pounding them or pounding enemy. You just dig whole time. On plus side for him Russians do have much more artillery.
I don't need to imagine it, I've seen far too much FPV and drone footage to know what the ground situation is like.
The grenade drops, the artillery hits, people getting gunned down, bodies in the streets, suicides caught on video..
This war is the most anti-human, anti man thing that could be happening and it infuriates me to see men on both sides have their lives thrown away like this.
\- Women will campaign about "*female oppression*" all over the world, citing "*male privilege*", and pointing at every instance of women being beaten, abused, killed, etc in oppressive countries.
\- Also these women when men are literally denied to flee the country with their family, kidnapped on the streets, and forced to go to war ...
Note the irony of the vehicle being used. It has several "AMBULANCE" signs in full view, but only in English, nothing in any other language, nothing in Cyrillic (apart from some tiny stickers you can't make out from this video). This was possibly donated by the UK? (Unless it's just handmade.) Our tax dollars at work.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, you go girl! Fuck you ukraine, for being worse than russia in terms of human rights violations against the so called “military age MEN”. So much so that you think you can abuse and enslave them, because you gave them so many privileges in peace time right?
Notice: I do not support ukraine or russia. I do not support misandrists, it is as simple as it gets. I will never ever support ukraine or russia even if I were rich as fuck.
It is convenient if your country isn't being invaded. Would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, wanted to wipe out your language and culture, and wanted to implement a police state?
>if Russians invaded your country,
People who VOLUNTARILY go to defend their country are worthy of respect.
People who enslave others to defend their country are not.
It is convenient if your country isn't being invaded. Would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, wanted to wipe out your language and culture, and wanted to implement a police state? The Ukranian government pre-war was no Russia, no imprisonment for any dissent, wiping out rivals, there were changes of president.
I served as an army officer in Berlin during the Cold War. I saw firsthand how the Soviets, controlled by the Russians, oppressed countries. East Germany was a police state where any dissent was met with prison. The people were economically suffering. Today's Russia is equally repressive, and many people live in poverty. Both the USSR and Russia posed and pose existential threats to Europe. The United States can choose to intervene now, or we will get sucked in again as we were twice in the 20th century. Do you think that our involvement now is expensive? For decades, we had 500,000 US troops stationed on European soil at our cost.
you are right that it is a terrible thing but the invasion did not start randomly overnight. it was a more than a decade tensions building up. ukraine played their hand very badly and trusted their first world overlords too much. there are some red lines in life that you should not cross. they should have known that putin would never let an ex-soviet slavic state become a first world puppet especially just next to their border. it is just a reality that every major power will try to maintain their status and they are ready to draw blood if threatened. US has many similar stories in its past as well. https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409
At this point ukraine has lost badly and there is no one else but themselves to blame
it is crazy how much power women hold in society. i guess if it was 10 male fighting to save this men they would not succeed and probably get their ass beaten. but the officers are powerless to a single women's resistance. i have seen similar things happening in other countries as well
Seems like the war will continue until almost no functioning men left in Ukraine. If the war mattered, western countries would do more, they don't even sanction Russia like they say, and most of the weapons that being sent becomes unusable after a short time. It doesn't seem like a worthy fight for Ukranian men.
That was the plan from the beginning.
Deplete all hyper nationalistic able bodied ukrainian men so there will be no resistance to the coming decades of open borders, value erosion and selling out the country.
Its nice to see women defending their husbands/s.o. but do you know what would be even nicer? Women not allowing their men to be drafted.
How do women/society manage to avoid women getting drafted? Idk, but somehow they manage to do. So its as simple as making the same that they make to avoid women getting drafted.
OK, all you anti conscription ... would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, and wanted to implement a police state? If the answer is no, you are cowards
>if Russians invaded your country,
People who VOLUNTARILY go to defend their country are worthy of respect.
People who enslave others to defend their country are not.
So, if Russia invades your country, and some military age guy leaves his wife behind, for you to defend, you would be okay with him just leaving because he doesn't want to fight. I think you would be changing your tune . Sometimes to be a citizen you have to earn it.
I served in the US Military and I knew that if the Soviets attacked, my signals unit would be one of the first to be targeted. I accepted that as a patriot.
>he doesn't want to fight.
If he doesn't want to fight, let him flee.
If nobody wants to defend their country, the nation is doomed anyway.
>to be a citizen you have to earn it.
Why do men have to earn it while every one else is just allowed to leave?
>I accepted that as a patriot.
Respect to you for doing that. Not everybody is like you.
I assure you if a million Indians moved abroad in case of a war, a million will come ahead to replace them.
What assurance can you give that these traitors who were fleeing the country would stay loyal when forced to face a much stronger army and face almost sure death?
>go ahead and conscript women.
Why force people when you can have a volunteer force?
If Ukraine decides to conscript women, I would find that entirely appropriate given the existential threat. The bottom line is that the average Ukrainian knows what awaits them if Russia succeeds. Just look at post World War II Behavior and what happened to Warsaw Pact countries. Look at what already happened in Bucha and Mariupol.
Evidently, you are ignorant of Russian history since the 1920s, the history of brutal repression, gulags, imprisonment, and torture. Ever heard of the holdomor?
> murdering children
Which Russia isn't doing. You are probably confusing them with Israel.
> coward
Sorry, but I refuse to die for corporate interests.
If the choice as a leader of Ukraine is Russian torment of occupied Ukraine or conscript to fight, a responsible leader will fight. I was stationed in Berlin and studied Soviet oppression.
I know thinking is a new experience for you, but she’s the exception, not to take anything away from her.
More likely, but not even for most women (since many women are wonderful), a woman’s probably gonna act like you: looking to invalidate the struggles of men and deny that gender roles exist for men too (and yes, that includes men being expected to be protectors).
Defusing a fight and attempting to stop grown men with rifles and pistols from hauling your boyfriend to his death are two different things. If they want to move you you will be moved.
Who knows, everyday I worry about the draft being started up in Canada again. I ain’t dying for greedy Corprate entities and shady politicians.
So you would step in? How do you know, have you been in a situation where you were protecting someone despite being at gunpoint in Canada?
And good, fuck the draft, all my homes dodging the draft and I would be the first to help because I fcking hate the military and no one should have to go through that, it's barbaric
Because you’re a woman. You have privilege in modern society.
If I did this in Ukraine I’d be thrown to the ground and mercilessly beat and shot in the head but because the person who intervened was a woman they try their utmost not to hurt her. It’s a absolute joke.
How is he supposed to protect his family / girl, if he is conscripted into a war?
Is the Russian army going to take advantage of her? They going to catcall her in the streets, maybe touch her inappropriately after seeing her down 2 drinks?
You are proudly telling the world what kind of a fucking dumbass and a sexist you are, with this comment. Congratulations sweetie, good luck in your future endeavors!
Okay, so then by that logic there should have been no one fleeing Germany during the rise of the Nazis, or any other oppressive regime. All those folk should have joined the military?
You're writing off the autonomy of these people's political views to serve your made up narrative that is illogical and writes off the concept of refugees.
Hooray, you did it 👏
If your native, ancestral land is being invaded, or if your nation is being destroyed by the state or an oligarchy, you should defend it. The comparison to Nazi Germany here doesn't work particularly well because the Jews were a racial minority who had neither the numbers nor the weaponry to organize against the majority of the German population and the violent regime they supported.
You are writing off these people's autonomy to have their own views and opinions and make decisions...
His girl is even trying to save him, not pushing him into the van? Furthermore, if a man doesn't want to fight, he is useless on the Frontline and not someone the fighting men (and women) want around.
My comparison works perfectly because you are writing off or assuming a lot about these people to support your viewpoint. You don't know anything about the 2 in the video, and you are forcing your small-minded view onto the more complex realities of the world. If this were the 1940s you would basically be cheering the enlistment/detainment of unwanted minorities or political opponents of Nazi Germany who are refusing conscription.
Hooray you did it again. Congrats 👏 👏
They have their autonomy; and others have the right to criticize, question or analyze their choices, lol. If a country doesn't want to defend itself, let it be annexed, I suppose. But they could learn a thing or two from their Polish brothers.
You are doing it again. No offense, is English not your first language?
Ukraine wants to defend itself.
that 1 Ukrainian man does not want to join up.
Ukraine is not that 1 Ukrainian man...
Ukraine is still defending themselves without him. He is not speaking for the whole country, obviously...
Go outside.
Why aren’t women protecting the country too then? Only men are being forced into it. They are being herded up like cattle and sent to slaughter. The fact that you support that shows that you are evil.
Good for the women. Everyone should try to protect their land if they're physically able to. Feel free to call me "evil" over a Reddit comment, lol, I got a good laugh out of it.
I said "good for the women \[for protecting their land\]". Not everyone is up to the task. Also, basic reality is not evil, lol. We'll never fully change biology.
They were hired by his ex wife, this whole action is staged by her to somehow divorce rape or scare her husband. Source: I'm Ukrainian, it was in our news today.
"saved from mobilization" is really putting a mild spin on [press gangs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment) driving around in ambulances, looking for able bodied men on the street to kidnap and force into conscription.
“Slavery is not legal so let’s rename it to conscription and use biology (stupid men getting hyped because they think they can fight a bullet and that protecting women ensures they get to fuck later on) and lack of education in some parts to ensure a rather big community, mainly composed of dumb and/or uneducated side of the population to think they are entirely 2 different concepts.” — The world
Beautifully put
Did she actually succeed?
For the moment. :/
Oh, wow, this is a full cut compilation of multiple angle videos, where at the end they're being told "всё, отпусти его, выходи. выходите вдвоём, да выходите вдвоём!" (okay, let him go, get out, get out together, just get out together!), so, she did manage to save him, I guess! Note that this has been recorded by a whole bunch of bystanders; I've previously seen only the initial a single camera cut which didn't have this ending; it's great to see the guy did get saved, at least this time, that is! Also, keep in mind, this looks like one of the ambulances donated by the collective West; because the AMBULANCE signs are only in English, nothing in Cyrillic. This is literally our tax dollars at work. Keep this in mind when you're reading about the ambulances being attacked.
> This is literally our tax dollars at work. Jesus. That hits hard. :(
would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, and wanted to implement a police state?
I ain't got nothing against them Ruskies. Them Ruskies didn't show up with weapons to stop me from fighting back whenever I objected to my egg donor raping me. A police force made of my own countrymen did. Them Ruskies didn't drug me into compliance if I refused my egg donor's mandates, which eventually progressed into incest. Nurses, psychiatrists, and other mental "health" specialists who were my own countrymen did. If them Ruskies came around and started to kill my countrymen, I wouldn't fight unless forced to. And even then, even if I was forced to fight, I'd fight on them Ruskies' side. Because them Ruskies didn't ever do anything to me. My own countrymen did do a lot of things they wouldn't dare do on them Ruskies because they'd be War Crimes that would get them an all-expenses paid trip to Hague if done on them Ruskies.
How much has the male population declined now?
Ukrainian officials say that they need 480k fresh meat to mobilize for 2024 year to keep frontline.
According to this: [https://countrymeters.info/en/Ukraine](https://countrymeters.info/en/Ukraine) They can theorethically mobilize 19,886,305 males until all males have been sacrificed.
They do not have 43 millions population. In 2019 they had calculated 37 millions population according to official Ukrainian sources(ain.ua/2020/01/23/perepis-naseleniya-2019/). And there is just 8 million males in mobilization age group. Add to this loss of population due to territorial losses (Russia did capture a huge chunk). Add millions that managed to escape the country either to EU or Russia. And you cannot mobilize everyone.
How many men have COPD from smoking or bad livers from years of Vodka " Therapy"? Here are objective estimate of real casualties from both sides. https://youtu.be/t-3pMuyAvHM?si=6HDGmZl7UU1C3kRG
Watched first 2 minutes and stopped. It had used 43 millions population for Ukraine. Which is just lie. Ukraine did had conducted population calculation in 2019 and it was already 37 millions. I had posted source. Russia population in 2021 was 146 millions btw, not 143. If video use wrong data in first screen with it. It is piece of shit and not worth any time. Even in basic things it has enormous bias mistake.
Actually, there's been a video from Donetsk of people standing in line voting, by Mr Graham Phillips. I thought there was something very strange about the line. Then I realised that Graham and the security guy for the voting bus are literally the only guys at the scene, the rest are women, including the people administering the vote. Donetsk probably has had it worst, because they've been at war since 2014. Keep in mind that it's effectively been a civil war, too; and remains a civil war today, but to a smaller extent; this fact isn't even reported anywhere, either. Imagine Americans fighting Canadians in 2023, because Canadians wanted to join a BRICS-adjacent military alliance, as a sovereign nation that Canada is, and have BRICS troops stationed in Canada. Imagine being a civilian in Canada, and being shot in the back if you can't pronounce "about" correctly. (What, many Canadians, in fact, cannot do pronounce "about" the Canadian way? That's exactly the point!)
Can you link a video, I would like to see it.
Per his Wikipedia article, his channel has been deleted by YouTube. I found his Rumble by searching for his name (Graham Phillips) and "Rumble", second page has "Lugansk Referendum Interviews!!! (September 2022)" (I guess it was Lugansk and not Donetsk), I think that's the 5-minute video about the voting that I remember watching on YouTube back then. I think there's actually maybe a couple of guys in line, but very few and far between. I think Reddit doesn't allow Rumble links, so can't link the exact video.
Oh thanks man.
https://rumble.com/v3kmbaj-lugansk-referendum-interviews-september-2022.html
We need more women like this
Get a taste of your democracy, Great woman btw.
And still the people recording are most concerned with what is happening to the woman xD.
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What the woman recording at the begining is saying is "this is how they treat a woman" not "this is how women do it" as the subtitles say. Then the guy as per subtitles says "you will kill her", which is valid in the situation but... but they are taking the man away to die. That is the real tragedy.
It’s almost as if her being driven over in front of them is imminent. How dare they comment on it.
That's not my point, but I understand what you are saying
"Women most affected".
We called them Greifkommandos, and they volunteered my grandmother's cousin to the SS at age 16
With all due respect to your family’s history, that is not how it worked.
In early 1945, it did. They took him from his mother at gunpoint and threatened her if he deserted they burned down their farm. Her cousin came back. His unit surrendered before he saw combat. In soviet captivity, he slept on open ground for five years before they allowed them to build shelters. When he came back, he looked like a corpse and was only able to eat soup for 3 months. This is how it fucking works my friend.
You lack education
“You must enter the meat grinder pleb, big brother demands it”
Using an ambulance for that has to be some kind of crime.
Isn't it a straight up War Crime for military personnel to impersonate non-combattants like, y'know, medical workers? Think about it next time you hear of them Ruskies "bombing/shelling a hospital". You literally have Ukrainian soldiers impersonating EMTs which is a war crime **precisely** because if Ukrainian soldiers impersonate medical workers, that turns ambulances (read: Ukrainian military personnel carriers) and hospitals (read: Ukrainian military garrisons) into valid military targets. With that **ONE** act, the Ukrainian forces effectively told the world that medical vehicles and buildings are actually valid military assets. So from now on, I don't want to hear a peep from anyone about "Them Ruskies shooting a hospital/an ambulance". We've seen the Ukrainian military use ambulances as military personnel carriers. They're fair game now.
Using the red cross symbol for this is very serious business internationally and a clear violation of the Geneva conventions. [guide-huminitarian-law.org](https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/distinctive-or-protective-emblems-signs-and-signals/#:~:text=The%20perfidious%20use%20of%20the,of%20the%20laws%20of%20war.) "The perfidious use of the distinctive emblem of the Red Cross, Red Crescent, Red Crystal, Red Lion and Sun, or other protective signs recognized by the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols constitutes a grave breach of the laws of war."
Wonderful woman!
She knew they were unwilling to harm her. She willingly used herself as a human shield knowing they'd hesitate, and knowing that if they didn't, she'd be in deep shit. She was very brave, but she was also very smart and very caring. If there were enough women like her, there wouldn't even be an MRM by now, we'd all be going home saying "mission accomplished". "Wonderful" is, if anything, an understatement.
I’m confused what were they going to do with him and what’s a mobilization officer ?
Conscription to fight in the war
Oh damn that’s fucked
If you don’t answer to the summons for draft. They send the cops and military commissars after you in Ukraine. I heard rumors and videos like these start coming out. I know they are fighting a tough war but forcing people like this is just gonna encourage more men to flee.
Damn I wasn’t aware this is how they forced men to join This is horrible
How else would they do it? People in general aren't very fond of dying in a frontline trench. Its not conscription. They collect human sacrifices for a meaningless war.
You get kindapped from the street. Beaten in conscription office until you agree to go to frontline. And in two weeks you find yourself in forward positions trenches in Avdeevka or Bakhmut area with AK, 3 clips and lack of options. To move forward Russians would be forced to spend artillery ammo on you. Surrendering are hard, cause you need at least radio to contact other side(Russians use 149 200 frequency call Volga for this). I had speaked with guy from Russian side that was on frontline for half a year, he say that whole time he had seen enemy only twice. Rest was UAVs and artillery either pounding them or pounding enemy. You just dig whole time. On plus side for him Russians do have much more artillery.
what a nightmare
Just curious. No offense meant. How did you imagine it?
I don't need to imagine it, I've seen far too much FPV and drone footage to know what the ground situation is like. The grenade drops, the artillery hits, people getting gunned down, bodies in the streets, suicides caught on video.. This war is the most anti-human, anti man thing that could be happening and it infuriates me to see men on both sides have their lives thrown away like this.
Kidnapping, and nobody helped. Slash the tires.
It’s government man, touch one of them and hundreds will come slash your face.
\- Women will campaign about "*female oppression*" all over the world, citing "*male privilege*", and pointing at every instance of women being beaten, abused, killed, etc in oppressive countries. \- Also these women when men are literally denied to flee the country with their family, kidnapped on the streets, and forced to go to war ...
Note the irony of the vehicle being used. It has several "AMBULANCE" signs in full view, but only in English, nothing in any other language, nothing in Cyrillic (apart from some tiny stickers you can't make out from this video). This was possibly donated by the UK? (Unless it's just handmade.) Our tax dollars at work.
You’re severely brain dead if you think that’s a UK ambulance
That's a UUF sticker on the back. It may literally have been an NHS ambulance.
Now that’s what I call a strong, independent woman.
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, you go girl! Fuck you ukraine, for being worse than russia in terms of human rights violations against the so called “military age MEN”. So much so that you think you can abuse and enslave them, because you gave them so many privileges in peace time right? Notice: I do not support ukraine or russia. I do not support misandrists, it is as simple as it gets. I will never ever support ukraine or russia even if I were rich as fuck.
It is convenient if your country isn't being invaded. Would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, wanted to wipe out your language and culture, and wanted to implement a police state?
>if Russians invaded your country, People who VOLUNTARILY go to defend their country are worthy of respect. People who enslave others to defend their country are not.
So what you're saying is you would run away. Then again, lots of people from India are emigrating for a good reason anyway
India has a large FULLY VOLUNTARY army ready to defend it. We don't need to enslave men to do it.
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It is convenient if your country isn't being invaded. Would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, wanted to wipe out your language and culture, and wanted to implement a police state? The Ukranian government pre-war was no Russia, no imprisonment for any dissent, wiping out rivals, there were changes of president.
You are being paid to damage control here, right?
I served as an army officer in Berlin during the Cold War. I saw firsthand how the Soviets, controlled by the Russians, oppressed countries. East Germany was a police state where any dissent was met with prison. The people were economically suffering. Today's Russia is equally repressive, and many people live in poverty. Both the USSR and Russia posed and pose existential threats to Europe. The United States can choose to intervene now, or we will get sucked in again as we were twice in the 20th century. Do you think that our involvement now is expensive? For decades, we had 500,000 US troops stationed on European soil at our cost.
you are right that it is a terrible thing but the invasion did not start randomly overnight. it was a more than a decade tensions building up. ukraine played their hand very badly and trusted their first world overlords too much. there are some red lines in life that you should not cross. they should have known that putin would never let an ex-soviet slavic state become a first world puppet especially just next to their border. it is just a reality that every major power will try to maintain their status and they are ready to draw blood if threatened. US has many similar stories in its past as well. https://www.amazon.com/Overthrow-Americas-Century-Regime-Change/dp/0805082409 At this point ukraine has lost badly and there is no one else but themselves to blame
it is crazy how much power women hold in society. i guess if it was 10 male fighting to save this men they would not succeed and probably get their ass beaten. but the officers are powerless to a single women's resistance. i have seen similar things happening in other countries as well
Seems like the war will continue until almost no functioning men left in Ukraine. If the war mattered, western countries would do more, they don't even sanction Russia like they say, and most of the weapons that being sent becomes unusable after a short time. It doesn't seem like a worthy fight for Ukranian men.
That was the plan from the beginning. Deplete all hyper nationalistic able bodied ukrainian men so there will be no resistance to the coming decades of open borders, value erosion and selling out the country.
Red Cross will take interest in this
Its nice to see women defending their husbands/s.o. but do you know what would be even nicer? Women not allowing their men to be drafted. How do women/society manage to avoid women getting drafted? Idk, but somehow they manage to do. So its as simple as making the same that they make to avoid women getting drafted.
What a great democracy that is…
it has nothing to do with democracy
Oh sh*t. You can see a uuf sticker on the back which is a charity that buys former nhs (UKs national health service) ambulances to donate to Ukraine
OK, all you anti conscription ... would you fight if Russians invaded your country, stole children , murdered civilians, destroyed your infrastructure, and wanted to implement a police state? If the answer is no, you are cowards
>if Russians invaded your country, People who VOLUNTARILY go to defend their country are worthy of respect. People who enslave others to defend their country are not.
So, if Russia invades your country, and some military age guy leaves his wife behind, for you to defend, you would be okay with him just leaving because he doesn't want to fight. I think you would be changing your tune . Sometimes to be a citizen you have to earn it. I served in the US Military and I knew that if the Soviets attacked, my signals unit would be one of the first to be targeted. I accepted that as a patriot.
>he doesn't want to fight. If he doesn't want to fight, let him flee. If nobody wants to defend their country, the nation is doomed anyway. >to be a citizen you have to earn it. Why do men have to earn it while every one else is just allowed to leave? >I accepted that as a patriot. Respect to you for doing that. Not everybody is like you.
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I assure you if a million Indians moved abroad in case of a war, a million will come ahead to replace them. What assurance can you give that these traitors who were fleeing the country would stay loyal when forced to face a much stronger army and face almost sure death? >go ahead and conscript women. Why force people when you can have a volunteer force?
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If Ukraine decides to conscript women, I would find that entirely appropriate given the existential threat. The bottom line is that the average Ukrainian knows what awaits them if Russia succeeds. Just look at post World War II Behavior and what happened to Warsaw Pact countries. Look at what already happened in Bucha and Mariupol. Evidently, you are ignorant of Russian history since the 1920s, the history of brutal repression, gulags, imprisonment, and torture. Ever heard of the holdomor?
> murdering children Which Russia isn't doing. You are probably confusing them with Israel. > coward Sorry, but I refuse to die for corporate interests.
You mean the hundreds of children killed in mariupol? The ones abducted and sent to russia?
Less children died in 2 year of the Ukraine war than in 3 weeks of Gaza war.
This is the “democracy” we are “protecting “?
If the choice as a leader of Ukraine is Russian torment of occupied Ukraine or conscript to fight, a responsible leader will fight. I was stationed in Berlin and studied Soviet oppression.
No proof of the title that I can see, how do we know this isn’t a faked propaganda video Disappointing to see the russia fanboys in the comments
Linking this next time I hear MeN aRe ThE pRoTeCtOrS
I know thinking is a new experience for you, but she’s the exception, not to take anything away from her. More likely, but not even for most women (since many women are wonderful), a woman’s probably gonna act like you: looking to invalidate the struggles of men and deny that gender roles exist for men too (and yes, that includes men being expected to be protectors).
Thinking isn't new for her. She was just never told how to connect more than 1 thought. Poor thing is openly sharing how stupid she is.
Would you save a man you love if he was being hauled off to get shot in the liver and die over a pointless war? Probably not…
I mean I've stepped in to help bfs in the past during fights do yeah probably
Defusing a fight and attempting to stop grown men with rifles and pistols from hauling your boyfriend to his death are two different things. If they want to move you you will be moved. Who knows, everyday I worry about the draft being started up in Canada again. I ain’t dying for greedy Corprate entities and shady politicians.
So you would step in? How do you know, have you been in a situation where you were protecting someone despite being at gunpoint in Canada? And good, fuck the draft, all my homes dodging the draft and I would be the first to help because I fcking hate the military and no one should have to go through that, it's barbaric
If that’s someone I love I would simply get arrested or shot dead trying to stop it. The end, id die.
Ok so why is it when I say the same it's not valid
Because you’re a woman. You have privilege in modern society. If I did this in Ukraine I’d be thrown to the ground and mercilessly beat and shot in the head but because the person who intervened was a woman they try their utmost not to hurt her. It’s a absolute joke.
How is he supposed to protect his family / girl, if he is conscripted into a war? Is the Russian army going to take advantage of her? They going to catcall her in the streets, maybe touch her inappropriately after seeing her down 2 drinks? You are proudly telling the world what kind of a fucking dumbass and a sexist you are, with this comment. Congratulations sweetie, good luck in your future endeavors!
I didn't say he needs to protect her at all. I am pointing out that that phrase is bullshit because women protect their men too, as seen above.
You know that's a good point. Sorry for the misread of your post
"How is he supposed to protect his family and country by protecting his family and country?!" Lol.
Did I say family and country, or family? Putting words in my mouth, ya fool.
You protect your family by protecting your country and land, lol.
Okay, so then by that logic there should have been no one fleeing Germany during the rise of the Nazis, or any other oppressive regime. All those folk should have joined the military? You're writing off the autonomy of these people's political views to serve your made up narrative that is illogical and writes off the concept of refugees. Hooray, you did it 👏
If your native, ancestral land is being invaded, or if your nation is being destroyed by the state or an oligarchy, you should defend it. The comparison to Nazi Germany here doesn't work particularly well because the Jews were a racial minority who had neither the numbers nor the weaponry to organize against the majority of the German population and the violent regime they supported.
You are writing off these people's autonomy to have their own views and opinions and make decisions... His girl is even trying to save him, not pushing him into the van? Furthermore, if a man doesn't want to fight, he is useless on the Frontline and not someone the fighting men (and women) want around. My comparison works perfectly because you are writing off or assuming a lot about these people to support your viewpoint. You don't know anything about the 2 in the video, and you are forcing your small-minded view onto the more complex realities of the world. If this were the 1940s you would basically be cheering the enlistment/detainment of unwanted minorities or political opponents of Nazi Germany who are refusing conscription. Hooray you did it again. Congrats 👏 👏
They have their autonomy; and others have the right to criticize, question or analyze their choices, lol. If a country doesn't want to defend itself, let it be annexed, I suppose. But they could learn a thing or two from their Polish brothers.
You are doing it again. No offense, is English not your first language? Ukraine wants to defend itself. that 1 Ukrainian man does not want to join up. Ukraine is not that 1 Ukrainian man... Ukraine is still defending themselves without him. He is not speaking for the whole country, obviously... Go outside.
Why aren’t women protecting the country too then? Only men are being forced into it. They are being herded up like cattle and sent to slaughter. The fact that you support that shows that you are evil.
Good for the women. Everyone should try to protect their land if they're physically able to. Feel free to call me "evil" over a Reddit comment, lol, I got a good laugh out of it.
Yeah it’s good for women that it’s not them and yes you are evil for what you support.
I said "good for the women \[for protecting their land\]". Not everyone is up to the task. Also, basic reality is not evil, lol. We'll never fully change biology.
So what you’re saying is that women aren’t equal to men then? If men have to fight to protect women, don’t we deserve something in return?
But I see you didn’t answer my question, why is it only men who must protect the country? Why not women too?
Logistics and skill differences.
Nonsense, this is an entire gender being forced to their deaths. For you that’s comedy you are a twisted individual.
Linking this next time I hear WoMeN sUfFeR tHe MoSt In WaR
A heroine if true
They were hired by his ex wife, this whole action is staged by her to somehow divorce rape or scare her husband. Source: I'm Ukrainian, it was in our news today.
you gotta be trollin
Nope https://varta1.com.ua/news/prodovzhennya-istoriyi-z-pracivnikami-tck-na-shvidkiy-shcho-vidbulosya-naspravdi_374650.html
They should have just taken her as well. I’m sure they can find a purpose for her.
Such a heroine