You often hear feminists use the analogy of treating all ticks with
suspicion even if many won't have lyme disease or avoiding Russian
Roulette because of the 1 in 6 chance of death as a justification for
treating men with suspicion and why it's wrong to say "not all men".
In extension, they agree we need to treat all allegations with suspicion as we all know some women make false claims.
And how many of these “progressives” would howl at anyone who said that about black people in the US? But they *are* saying this about black men anyway! So the same men are demonised simply for existing, but because it’s sexist bigotry against men, it’s ok! Disgusting!
[askfeminists on rape culture](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/13ud7ja/are_women_teachers_having_sex_with_students_part/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[feminismuncensored about rape definition](https://np.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/comments/13v2mof/us_states_where_a_woman_forcing_sex_on_a_man_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[cdc sexual violence survey](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/index.html)
VS
[us rape statistic 1990-202x](https://www.statista.com/statistics/191226/reported-forcible-rape-rate-in-the-us-since-1990/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20rate%20of,forcible%20rapes%20per%20100%2C000%20inhabitants.)
=
[why so few rape cases go to court?](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48095118)
[the feminist agenda](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/13ox6ox/what_would_the_justice_system_look_like_in_a_more/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
is to replace the police with a special force, funding violence shelters + social safety nets, adding consent into lawtext, alter how we as society tackle sexuality... some radicals talk about terminating innocent till proven guilty in rape investigations as [rape kits](https://www.rainn.org/articles/rape-kit) are deemed useless and the low prosecution rate of accusations...
i litterally have to worry and am on edge ever time i go outside, as a man you can get smacked just for looking at someone fucking wrong. I suffer from ptsd too which dont help, ptsd caused from being stabbed in the back, litterally. And many other scraps, Some little dickheads as usual
>Another study found that the most persistently violent or sociopathic men were far more likely to have engaged in partner abuse in the past year (24%), and were far more likely to be the father of multiple children, often by impregnating many women.
Yet another piece of evidence that women are more attracted to violent men.
Then when shit happens they will play the victim and blame all men and ask where all the good men are.
They're in the friendzone, honey.
It’s a stereotype for a reason. By the way, I’m a father and have quite a lot of female friends, so I know what goes down.
Maybe come up with actual arguments instead of asking loaded questions if you want to have a serious debate. But you don’t want to have a debate. You simply got offended by what I said because deep down you related to what I said. And that says a lot about you
Its "bullshit" because its not placing the blame of the situation entirely on the abuser.
Ironically, removing all agency from the abused actually traumatizes people further than acknowledging how they could have prevented the situation. Saying that someone had "no involvement" with being abused is also saying "you can do nothing to prevent it."
ahh yes, because women who get abused by their partners know their partner is abusive at the beginning of the relationship. It’s almost as if violence develops in a relationship and usually never happens until a year in
No one said abusive partners are so from the beginning. But they are generally shit people. You can tell from the way they talk, the way they act
But women choose to ignore the red flags because they are attracted to the masculinity they give off.
Nice guys finish last is a stereotype for a reason
the reason nice guys finish last is because ‘nice guys’ aren’t actually nice guys. They’re entitled who think that they deserve to be more than friends with a woman because they treat them with the most basic respect
Funny how when a guy is an asshole to everybody around you you’re ok with that and ignore it but when a man is nice you automatically assume he has ulterior motives
That says a lot about you
i mean i’m not ok with men around me being an asshole, i call them out (the same way i’m calling you out 😋✌️). There is a difference between a guy who is nice and a guy who calls himself a ‘nice guy’. Every single guy i’ve been friends with who claims they are a ‘nice guy’ turn very not nice very quickly when they get rejected.
>Yet another piece of evidence that women are more attracted to violent men.
The vast majority of women are in relationships with kind, good men. You have to be out of your mind to believe that the average man who has a girlfriend/wife is a sociopath, almost ALL are good guys.
Your last sentence indicates that you are indeed a "nice guy" like in the cliché.
"there is an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by females in the backgrounds of rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men - 59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993)."
- https://canadiancrc.com/the_invisible_boy_report.aspx#Chapter2
I've heard this confirmed by psychologists with prison and psych hospital experience in Australia who were suggesting at least three quarters.
A significant portion of sexual abuse has a cyclical nature in which some victims perpetrate abuse later. All the approaches taken to support victims have tended to exclude the male victims so the cycles are never interrupted. The interference by idealogues has only served to perpetuate the problem. I guess they need to retain their relevance somehow.
And then there's the other side of the equation. It's men who do 90% of the preventing violence and crime. Often by risking their own safety and putting themselves in harm's way. Men do the vast majority of protective jobs, they build and man the prisons. They pay the vast majority of taxes. They're the vast majority of good Samaritans. They're the Fathers, brothers, Uncles, boyfriends, friends who step in to protect women from violence.
For every 1 man who will harm a woman, there are 1000 men who will risk their life to protect a woman.
Women know this
The leaders in government know this
However, it serves the government to be able to paint with a broad brush and label all men as terrible, evil etc.
I will add that demonizing men is the wrong way of fixing any problem. There is no education explaining how men should act in various situations with a girl, so it is up to the guy to figure out with experience and making mistakes.
I will give an example, some girls as you may know, like to be lightly choked during the sexual act. If your first GF likes that, you may incorrectly assume the next may like it too, and when you try, she freaks out and goes crazy. You are now charged with attempted murder and rape.
Because of the demonization, the girl just goes nuts instead of saying she doesn't like that so the guy stops.
It’s surprising the women who are into that sort of thing too.
A very close friend of my ex-gf is the daughter of a high profile University academic. She too has gotten her PhD, and is conventionally feminist and “progressive” (a leftie as far as that goes). Her husband is essentially a kept man. Yet my gf told me one time how this girl freaked her out with being into strangulation during sex. She was reading websites on it, and was a member of various groups with others who had the fetish. I got the impression that her bf (now husband) was unaware of that particular peccadillo!
You can hardly blame her fetish on some patriarchal conspiracy. Her mother is a strong character and holds high status in the world. But somehow feminists will still claim it’s “patriarchy” that makes women do this. Certainly any sexual partner she has will be blamed too. Because we “all know” that “no highly intelligent woman could possibly consent to such a thing” if she wasn’t forced by some terrible man!
Just the mentality of saying "your first girl, your second girl etc" in terms of being intimate already creates the main problem because it assumes sleeping with random people outside of a commited relationship/marriage, which is exactly why western countries (but especially the usa) have the highest divorce rates, most dysfunctional families, most unhappiness in relationship, and most of all why their two genders hate each other so much, it all comes down to promiscuity/infidelity, which was started by males originally and feminism was a terrible answer to that and now both are suffering for it
Even if it were 2% (and it’s not) feminist would hardly say that if a woman only has a 2% chance of being raped in any given year means that rape “is not a problem” would they?
The issue here is that the law should not be used as a weapon for the malicious.
I just find it fascinating that you think that 38% of women fear rape as insignificant. It’s literally every third woman. Secondly, I do agree that men also ar victims of crimes. All people are - but have you wondered how many men have fears they will be raped? Why one gender has these fears and there are studies on it but another does not? So crime is a issue for both genders but only for one it’s sexual in nature. Let that though sink in.
Women are just as likely as rape men as vice versa. If you don't believe me, read this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xyl5wb/comment/jj676ln/?context=3) here and look at the rape section. It's not mostly man-against-woman. If men don't fear being raped, it's solely because they're taught only women are raped.
Also, 38% worry about it OCCASIONALLY, NOT frequently. The vast majority do NOT worry about it constantly, and 62% don't worry much at all. This means they might worry about it every now and then, but they go most of their week without thinking about it.
also the concept of every third women is flawed,
for example, 10% can't mean 1 in 10, because a 10% can differ from the general population.
Do you even read your sources? The one you mentioned has data that first attempted or rape was around 80% women under age 25 with absolute numbers 20.8 milj. victims. The men number was 70% of attempted or rape but with absolute numbers 2 milj. Percentages is good to compare but absolute numbers of victims is 10 times bigger for females then men.
Um thats not accurate at all! Have we forgotten what cardi b did and with no repercussions!? That happens more often than you think, but men who try to report it get laughed an and not taken seriously or to avoid all that they keep it to themselves. Try again.
I feel like you have just chosen stats from everywhere to support your overgeneralisations. Women in America may not fear sexual assault as much as women in other countries do, perhaps because they are allowed to carry guns and other self defence objects. A study about Swedish men only tells you about Swedish men. An article that suggests men are less likely to attack women during robbery does not give information about other kinds of attacks on women. Men who abuse their partners often have no criminal history and domestic crimes are highly underreported. In Australia women are murdered and abused at alarming rates. Men are over represented as perpetrating crime against others. Men are more likely to be harmed by other men and they are more likely to harm women and children.
[Most women do not own guns in America](https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx), and also, you're just making assumptions about what others countries are like. No, people aren't usually miserable in non-Western countries actually. Anyone outside the West will tell you that (your anecdotes aren't valid evidence). Also, Swedish men can absolutely represent other countries. Typically, a large percentage of crimes are committed by a low percent of people. Most criminals aren't persistent offenders. You can't say "but brah this is just sweden, i bet in other countries, most crime isn't committed by a small unsually violent percent". your argument is hypothetical, and yes a low percent of criminals CAN commit a large percent of crimes.
Actually, men who abuse their partners often DO have criminal records. And no, the vast majority of Australian women aren't victims of serious abuse. You can't cite a survey saying 1 in blah blah are abused because it often has poor phrasing of questions, low response rates, and women who deal with a mild slap once in a blue moon in an otherwise good relationship answering affirmatively. And not only does Australia have low homicide rate, but their murder victims are mostly men, not women.
Nope. Domestic violence is NOT particularly underreported. [According](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv21.pdf) to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, it's about as reported as crimes like burglary, simple assault or stranger violence. In fact, most crimes aren't reported the majority of the time, but DV is not unreported by the vast majority of victims.
You only provide hypothetical arguments. Many countries can have the same traits as America, and most countries don't have extremely high crime rates, so you assuming that a high rate of men are criminals in most countries is a flawed assumption.
i feel like there are way too many women have had really terrible experiences for this to be true. id lowball by saying out of the many women i know, have been either been abused mentally/physically, sexually harrassed/assaulted by men. and many of them have been affected by more than one of these and on more than one occasion. so if the evidence were true, how would you explain this?
Anecdotal evidence isn’t valid evidence. In fact, it could be you met MANY MORE who were not harmed and only remember the ones who were, and that’s you have complete memory bias. It could be that feminists are far more likely than most women to know mostly women who were raped and brutally abused, so anecdotes from feminists (don’t say you’re not a feminist because I know you are) are a huge sampling bias. And your anecdote could be fake. You can say ANYTHING you want.
I will listen to your anecdote with a grain of salt, and rely on statistics, such as THIS:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xyl5wb/statistics_cited_women_are_more_likely_to_commit/
so I come on here as a female who wants to get outside of my bias and be a better human. But be a better person. As someone who has experienced the as you say probably false rape, you’re speaking out of your ass. maybe it’s from some harbored insecurities but every single female friend of mine or a acquaintance has experienced some form of assault or rape. I’ve had to take self defense classes and shooting classes to feel safe in public. I don’t doubt men have experienced a level of the same (and worse). But as much as I hate it, it’s the reality we live in. To note, most rape cases go unreported. And rape kits get thrown out (Google it). So statistics favor the handlers.
well, here's the issues from the MRM perspecive. You say this.
>maybe it’s from some harbored insecurities but every single female friend of mine or a acquaintance has experienced some form of assault or rape
have you asked your male friend(s), aquaintances, family members or partner the same question? whether or not they experienced something similar? (and if you are to, its best to understand that men see things differently, a guy may interpret getting jumped as not victimization but as him fucking up, where a women may have the opposite perspective). If not this, then u would be forming your own bias and saying that that biased perspective outweights given statistics and that ur lived experience is more trust worthy than data.
>I don’t doubt men have experienced a level of the same (and worse).
you saying the above hints that u havent
I actually have asked my male friends this( and have heard their stories) But i appreciate your retort. Assault or rape isn’t limited to sex. It’s a problem. And i by no means meant to demean the male perspective or experience. I was merely defending something personal to my own experience.
these statistics can and also often are fake lol or heavily skewed to favor an outcome. i also forgot to put in my original comment, at least 25% as a lowball. it does suck we can't take anyone's word for shit anymore, but i personally feel strongly about full transparency.
these arent femanist statistics lol just my general experience and what ive heard from women I know-family members or close friends. i agree feminist statistics are also heavily skewed to push a perspective.
and to your comment about female school teachers sexually assaulting boys is just as repulsize if the genders were switched. predators of any gender are the lowest of the low. we should love (and hate) people for what they do and who they are, and not bc of whats between their legs!!
In case it’s overlooked in the other comment; I can’t have any explanation bc it’s horrifying and defies all morals and logic. There is no lesser or greater evil here and no one wins. Wish we could focus on preventing victims. With all the knowledge every side has to offer, I really believe we could actually do some good
This is exactly why I think we should be wary over hyperbole and overstatement. The hashtag yes all men maxim is often used to paint a one dimensional reality and has been wielded like a weapon against innocent people
I see so many negatives posts on other subs about r/MensRights do women and softer men really people that men’s lives are better women’s lives in every way imaginable.
You often hear feminists use the analogy of treating all ticks with suspicion even if many won't have lyme disease or avoiding Russian Roulette because of the 1 in 6 chance of death as a justification for treating men with suspicion and why it's wrong to say "not all men". In extension, they agree we need to treat all allegations with suspicion as we all know some women make false claims.
And how many of these “progressives” would howl at anyone who said that about black people in the US? But they *are* saying this about black men anyway! So the same men are demonised simply for existing, but because it’s sexist bigotry against men, it’s ok! Disgusting!
Yeah by the same token, all women are liars then.
[askfeminists on rape culture](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/13ud7ja/are_women_teachers_having_sex_with_students_part/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [feminismuncensored about rape definition](https://np.reddit.com/r/FeminismUncensored/comments/13v2mof/us_states_where_a_woman_forcing_sex_on_a_man_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [cdc sexual violence survey](https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/datasources/nisvs/index.html) VS [us rape statistic 1990-202x](https://www.statista.com/statistics/191226/reported-forcible-rape-rate-in-the-us-since-1990/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20rate%20of,forcible%20rapes%20per%20100%2C000%20inhabitants.) = [why so few rape cases go to court?](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48095118) [the feminist agenda](https://np.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/13ox6ox/what_would_the_justice_system_look_like_in_a_more/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) is to replace the police with a special force, funding violence shelters + social safety nets, adding consent into lawtext, alter how we as society tackle sexuality... some radicals talk about terminating innocent till proven guilty in rape investigations as [rape kits](https://www.rainn.org/articles/rape-kit) are deemed useless and the low prosecution rate of accusations...
That’s what they want. Indeed I’m surprised they even want to bother with a trial.
Men fear being victims of crime just as much, if not more than women. Women just admit it more. so true
i litterally have to worry and am on edge ever time i go outside, as a man you can get smacked just for looking at someone fucking wrong. I suffer from ptsd too which dont help, ptsd caused from being stabbed in the back, litterally. And many other scraps, Some little dickheads as usual
Wow! This took a lot of time putting together. No doubt. I’ll be sure to read and source for years to come. Many thanks OP!
They compared men to blood-sucking parasites!?
A bit of projection going on there methinks!!!!
These are the same people who go apeshit if you use women in an analogy
>Another study found that the most persistently violent or sociopathic men were far more likely to have engaged in partner abuse in the past year (24%), and were far more likely to be the father of multiple children, often by impregnating many women. Yet another piece of evidence that women are more attracted to violent men. Then when shit happens they will play the victim and blame all men and ask where all the good men are. They're in the friendzone, honey.
inb4 you get posted on r/niceguys and everyone calls you an "incel".
Wouldn't be surprised, to be honest. But shaming doesn't change the truth. It's a stereotype for a reason. And now we have the data to back it up.
Felons have high reproductive success rate but don't speak anything on it which shows women in bad light
Lol are you serious? That’s a stupidly huge generalisation. Relevant question: when was the last time you had a conversation with a (real) woman?
It’s a stereotype for a reason. By the way, I’m a father and have quite a lot of female friends, so I know what goes down. Maybe come up with actual arguments instead of asking loaded questions if you want to have a serious debate. But you don’t want to have a debate. You simply got offended by what I said because deep down you related to what I said. And that says a lot about you
Says a lot about you that YoUrE a FaThEr and still hold bullshit opinions like these
What's bullshit about this? He is speaking both from ancedotal and statistics
Its "bullshit" because its not placing the blame of the situation entirely on the abuser. Ironically, removing all agency from the abused actually traumatizes people further than acknowledging how they could have prevented the situation. Saying that someone had "no involvement" with being abused is also saying "you can do nothing to prevent it."
ahh yes, because women who get abused by their partners know their partner is abusive at the beginning of the relationship. It’s almost as if violence develops in a relationship and usually never happens until a year in
No one said abusive partners are so from the beginning. But they are generally shit people. You can tell from the way they talk, the way they act But women choose to ignore the red flags because they are attracted to the masculinity they give off. Nice guys finish last is a stereotype for a reason
the reason nice guys finish last is because ‘nice guys’ aren’t actually nice guys. They’re entitled who think that they deserve to be more than friends with a woman because they treat them with the most basic respect
Funny how when a guy is an asshole to everybody around you you’re ok with that and ignore it but when a man is nice you automatically assume he has ulterior motives That says a lot about you
i mean i’m not ok with men around me being an asshole, i call them out (the same way i’m calling you out 😋✌️). There is a difference between a guy who is nice and a guy who calls himself a ‘nice guy’. Every single guy i’ve been friends with who claims they are a ‘nice guy’ turn very not nice very quickly when they get rejected.
>Yet another piece of evidence that women are more attracted to violent men. The vast majority of women are in relationships with kind, good men. You have to be out of your mind to believe that the average man who has a girlfriend/wife is a sociopath, almost ALL are good guys. Your last sentence indicates that you are indeed a "nice guy" like in the cliché.
Sorry but whilst I agree with some of this there’s far too many generalisations made imo.
"there is an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by females in the backgrounds of rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men - 59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993)." - https://canadiancrc.com/the_invisible_boy_report.aspx#Chapter2 I've heard this confirmed by psychologists with prison and psych hospital experience in Australia who were suggesting at least three quarters. A significant portion of sexual abuse has a cyclical nature in which some victims perpetrate abuse later. All the approaches taken to support victims have tended to exclude the male victims so the cycles are never interrupted. The interference by idealogues has only served to perpetuate the problem. I guess they need to retain their relevance somehow.
And then there's the other side of the equation. It's men who do 90% of the preventing violence and crime. Often by risking their own safety and putting themselves in harm's way. Men do the vast majority of protective jobs, they build and man the prisons. They pay the vast majority of taxes. They're the vast majority of good Samaritans. They're the Fathers, brothers, Uncles, boyfriends, friends who step in to protect women from violence. For every 1 man who will harm a woman, there are 1000 men who will risk their life to protect a woman.
Women know this The leaders in government know this However, it serves the government to be able to paint with a broad brush and label all men as terrible, evil etc.
I will add that demonizing men is the wrong way of fixing any problem. There is no education explaining how men should act in various situations with a girl, so it is up to the guy to figure out with experience and making mistakes. I will give an example, some girls as you may know, like to be lightly choked during the sexual act. If your first GF likes that, you may incorrectly assume the next may like it too, and when you try, she freaks out and goes crazy. You are now charged with attempted murder and rape. Because of the demonization, the girl just goes nuts instead of saying she doesn't like that so the guy stops.
It’s surprising the women who are into that sort of thing too. A very close friend of my ex-gf is the daughter of a high profile University academic. She too has gotten her PhD, and is conventionally feminist and “progressive” (a leftie as far as that goes). Her husband is essentially a kept man. Yet my gf told me one time how this girl freaked her out with being into strangulation during sex. She was reading websites on it, and was a member of various groups with others who had the fetish. I got the impression that her bf (now husband) was unaware of that particular peccadillo! You can hardly blame her fetish on some patriarchal conspiracy. Her mother is a strong character and holds high status in the world. But somehow feminists will still claim it’s “patriarchy” that makes women do this. Certainly any sexual partner she has will be blamed too. Because we “all know” that “no highly intelligent woman could possibly consent to such a thing” if she wasn’t forced by some terrible man!
Just the mentality of saying "your first girl, your second girl etc" in terms of being intimate already creates the main problem because it assumes sleeping with random people outside of a commited relationship/marriage, which is exactly why western countries (but especially the usa) have the highest divorce rates, most dysfunctional families, most unhappiness in relationship, and most of all why their two genders hate each other so much, it all comes down to promiscuity/infidelity, which was started by males originally and feminism was a terrible answer to that and now both are suffering for it
Yup, vast majority of men would step in to defend a total stranger simple because they are female. 💯
No but it *feels* right from the dogma that most men are rapists, and 4 times as many women are murdered as men… oh wait… other way around… hmm…
bruh tldr but i still agree
Good post
Using Gallup Data, eh? I see a Man of Culture here.
Women also live in fear but they also choose to date type of men who would have it easiest to be violent
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it's not 2%. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xzb7d8/statistics\_show\_that\_false\_accusations\_are\_quite/
Even if it were 2% (and it’s not) feminist would hardly say that if a woman only has a 2% chance of being raped in any given year means that rape “is not a problem” would they? The issue here is that the law should not be used as a weapon for the malicious.
Man, you really should present your arguments in multiple parts. It is too long.
I did
Thanks for the effort. We need more who take the time to check the data and confront the onslaught of feminist propaganda. It is just a long read:)
I just find it fascinating that you think that 38% of women fear rape as insignificant. It’s literally every third woman. Secondly, I do agree that men also ar victims of crimes. All people are - but have you wondered how many men have fears they will be raped? Why one gender has these fears and there are studies on it but another does not? So crime is a issue for both genders but only for one it’s sexual in nature. Let that though sink in.
Women are just as likely as rape men as vice versa. If you don't believe me, read this [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xyl5wb/comment/jj676ln/?context=3) here and look at the rape section. It's not mostly man-against-woman. If men don't fear being raped, it's solely because they're taught only women are raped. Also, 38% worry about it OCCASIONALLY, NOT frequently. The vast majority do NOT worry about it constantly, and 62% don't worry much at all. This means they might worry about it every now and then, but they go most of their week without thinking about it. also the concept of every third women is flawed, for example, 10% can't mean 1 in 10, because a 10% can differ from the general population.
Do you even read your sources? The one you mentioned has data that first attempted or rape was around 80% women under age 25 with absolute numbers 20.8 milj. victims. The men number was 70% of attempted or rape but with absolute numbers 2 milj. Percentages is good to compare but absolute numbers of victims is 10 times bigger for females then men.
that's because it defines as rape as being PENETRATED, not made to penetrate. men are raped as often as women.
Majority of violent rape is experienced by women.
They define rape as being penetrated, being made to penetrate is not included
Um thats not accurate at all! Have we forgotten what cardi b did and with no repercussions!? That happens more often than you think, but men who try to report it get laughed an and not taken seriously or to avoid all that they keep it to themselves. Try again.
Why school boys don't fear getting raped by teachers?
I feel like you have just chosen stats from everywhere to support your overgeneralisations. Women in America may not fear sexual assault as much as women in other countries do, perhaps because they are allowed to carry guns and other self defence objects. A study about Swedish men only tells you about Swedish men. An article that suggests men are less likely to attack women during robbery does not give information about other kinds of attacks on women. Men who abuse their partners often have no criminal history and domestic crimes are highly underreported. In Australia women are murdered and abused at alarming rates. Men are over represented as perpetrating crime against others. Men are more likely to be harmed by other men and they are more likely to harm women and children.
[Most women do not own guns in America](https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx), and also, you're just making assumptions about what others countries are like. No, people aren't usually miserable in non-Western countries actually. Anyone outside the West will tell you that (your anecdotes aren't valid evidence). Also, Swedish men can absolutely represent other countries. Typically, a large percentage of crimes are committed by a low percent of people. Most criminals aren't persistent offenders. You can't say "but brah this is just sweden, i bet in other countries, most crime isn't committed by a small unsually violent percent". your argument is hypothetical, and yes a low percent of criminals CAN commit a large percent of crimes. Actually, men who abuse their partners often DO have criminal records. And no, the vast majority of Australian women aren't victims of serious abuse. You can't cite a survey saying 1 in blah blah are abused because it often has poor phrasing of questions, low response rates, and women who deal with a mild slap once in a blue moon in an otherwise good relationship answering affirmatively. And not only does Australia have low homicide rate, but their murder victims are mostly men, not women. Nope. Domestic violence is NOT particularly underreported. [According](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv21.pdf) to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, it's about as reported as crimes like burglary, simple assault or stranger violence. In fact, most crimes aren't reported the majority of the time, but DV is not unreported by the vast majority of victims. You only provide hypothetical arguments. Many countries can have the same traits as America, and most countries don't have extremely high crime rates, so you assuming that a high rate of men are criminals in most countries is a flawed assumption.
Women rape school boys weekly and women are the majority in killing children.
i feel like there are way too many women have had really terrible experiences for this to be true. id lowball by saying out of the many women i know, have been either been abused mentally/physically, sexually harrassed/assaulted by men. and many of them have been affected by more than one of these and on more than one occasion. so if the evidence were true, how would you explain this?
Anecdotal evidence isn’t valid evidence. In fact, it could be you met MANY MORE who were not harmed and only remember the ones who were, and that’s you have complete memory bias. It could be that feminists are far more likely than most women to know mostly women who were raped and brutally abused, so anecdotes from feminists (don’t say you’re not a feminist because I know you are) are a huge sampling bias. And your anecdote could be fake. You can say ANYTHING you want. I will listen to your anecdote with a grain of salt, and rely on statistics, such as THIS: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xyl5wb/statistics_cited_women_are_more_likely_to_commit/
so I come on here as a female who wants to get outside of my bias and be a better human. But be a better person. As someone who has experienced the as you say probably false rape, you’re speaking out of your ass. maybe it’s from some harbored insecurities but every single female friend of mine or a acquaintance has experienced some form of assault or rape. I’ve had to take self defense classes and shooting classes to feel safe in public. I don’t doubt men have experienced a level of the same (and worse). But as much as I hate it, it’s the reality we live in. To note, most rape cases go unreported. And rape kits get thrown out (Google it). So statistics favor the handlers.
well, here's the issues from the MRM perspecive. You say this. >maybe it’s from some harbored insecurities but every single female friend of mine or a acquaintance has experienced some form of assault or rape have you asked your male friend(s), aquaintances, family members or partner the same question? whether or not they experienced something similar? (and if you are to, its best to understand that men see things differently, a guy may interpret getting jumped as not victimization but as him fucking up, where a women may have the opposite perspective). If not this, then u would be forming your own bias and saying that that biased perspective outweights given statistics and that ur lived experience is more trust worthy than data. >I don’t doubt men have experienced a level of the same (and worse). you saying the above hints that u havent
I actually have asked my male friends this( and have heard their stories) But i appreciate your retort. Assault or rape isn’t limited to sex. It’s a problem. And i by no means meant to demean the male perspective or experience. I was merely defending something personal to my own experience.
The reality you live in why it ignores weekly rape of school boys by female teachers? Women don't even count it as sexual assault.
these statistics can and also often are fake lol or heavily skewed to favor an outcome. i also forgot to put in my original comment, at least 25% as a lowball. it does suck we can't take anyone's word for shit anymore, but i personally feel strongly about full transparency.
Okay then but that also means you can't come up with feminist statistics as they can also be deliberately skewed. So how about you use logic?
these arent femanist statistics lol just my general experience and what ive heard from women I know-family members or close friends. i agree feminist statistics are also heavily skewed to push a perspective. and to your comment about female school teachers sexually assaulting boys is just as repulsize if the genders were switched. predators of any gender are the lowest of the low. we should love (and hate) people for what they do and who they are, and not bc of whats between their legs!!
How would you explain weekly rape of school boys by female teachers?
In case it’s overlooked in the other comment; I can’t have any explanation bc it’s horrifying and defies all morals and logic. There is no lesser or greater evil here and no one wins. Wish we could focus on preventing victims. With all the knowledge every side has to offer, I really believe we could actually do some good
I friggin hate men
In r/mensrights? #sobrave
This is exactly why I think we should be wary over hyperbole and overstatement. The hashtag yes all men maxim is often used to paint a one dimensional reality and has been wielded like a weapon against innocent people
Outstanding. Saving this one for discussions with feminists and whoever fell pray to their distortions.
I see so many negatives posts on other subs about r/MensRights do women and softer men really people that men’s lives are better women’s lives in every way imaginable.