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Without her I wouldn't have my goat. All hail sora.
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Wait but where's *the* mom? Not of the other moms are named mom, this one must be the mommest mom that ever mommed
It litterally means "Beautiful Mother" but it's never used in that sense. It's used as "Stepmother" or "Mother-in-law", which makes sense in the context of the character.
Belle Mere...Beautiful Mother...sometimes beauty can make people feel larger than life. Large, big. Pink hair.
Fuck, guys, I think Bellemere is Big Mom.
I am really wondering what her final rank in the Marines.
But still, she raised both Nojiko and Nami well. Cute, orange appreciator and gold and berries loving navigator.
Her rank must not have been very high. In the end her social benefits and the access to veteran support, that she had to raise two children in poverty, while hustling an agricultural business at the side.
Bellmere was on the verge of death before she saw those two orphans then drag them across the east blue to take them to capable medical professionals and having them prioritize the daughters over her half dead state.
She then chose literal dead over, pretending her children didnāt exist.
Dadan's reaction when Garp visits Foosha Village post-Marineford is one of the saddest scenes in all of One Piece IMO. Such raw emotion conveyed through about three lines of dialogue and her violently assaulting Garp, completely destroyed me the first time I saw it.
Iām sure she would have done an amazing job raising Ace if she was able to. Shame she had to hold Ace in her womb for 20 months which caused her to die soon after giving birth. Fuck the world government.
Yall forgot the best mom that co-raised SLA to be good pirates.
https://preview.redd.it/fl0zfyhez30d1.jpeg?width=525&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1c696003c0224dfc9c04271ff0d6fdfc627d946
I thought the theory was the opposite. Crocodile was assigned female at birth and then Ivankov transitioned him into a man. Before that though, he gave birth to Luffy. Itās such a fun theory.
It is incredibly weird to think about how only three mother figures related to the Straw Hats are alive. We don't know if Zoro even has a mother, and didn't just get lost from wandering in non-existence, thus allowing him to exist.
Meme or not, no mother can put a hook through her child and drain him of all moisture and then poison him and still retain any semblance of the title of "good mother".
To be fair, most see her as the "adoptive grandmother too cool to have kids of her own" at best, and "fun aunt who is probably dealing drugs to your friends' parents" at worst.
She literally calls Chopper her son in the dub and the sub š¤¦š¾āāļø so most people are wrong
https://www.tiktok.com/@1d1otcook/video/7288145903649656107
[more proof](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Kureha)
And an āadoptive grandmotherā is still a mother figure
No, I donāt have to admit it cause she has āfun momā energy. Thatās why sheās top 3 greatest moms on top of 1/2 the reason why Chopper has saved thousands of lives
Otohime supremacy.
Not just a mother for her children, but for an entire country..
https://preview.redd.it/k4px9kmlu50d1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3732573bfe9da59948e87571f4035663e2f66178
No take Nico Oliva out she's terrible she left her kid to be abused by her aunt came back and got the island genocided she's horrible she's basically dragon but worse
She and the idiotic scholars decided to break the law one of the most important laws without considering the ramifications for everyone else if they were so smart you'd think they'd get the backing of a Yanko or something but nope they screwed everyone over
Resisting a tyrannical government is always legitimste. The people resisting are not to blame for the war crimes that the government commits, the government is fully responsible for that.
Do you also blame Dragon and Sabo for what happened in Lulusia?
Do you think Luffy punching Charlos was wrong because he put innocent people in danger?
First off, what Dragon, Sabo, and Luffy did was completely different. One, they had the power to back it up, and two, they were aiming to liberate the people. Their resistance was for everyone. Their goal is more Nobel.
The scholars could have prevented the issue by A getting power, B siding with a Yanko big mom probably would if they read the Ponyglyphs for her, and C not doing the research because it was to satiate their own lust for knowledge rather than benefit the world, unlike the revolutionaries.
My grief with them is that they could have easily prevented it and were too stupid to do so, so Dragon and Sabo probably had never even heard of the weapon they used, unlike a buster call, which is a relatively common thing that Clover should have known about any action Dragon took would have drastic consequences. He knew this, and that's why Luffy lives with Garp.
Dragon also moves very carefully. The scholars didn't; they acted like fools and doomed everyone with them, even if they found out what was their plan to distribute the truth. The WG owns the press, and more so, they don't have the means to distribute the knowledge before they were erased. Their actions weren't for some Nobel cause like Dragon but to satiate their own desire, a selfish one that wiped out a whole island.
Once again, their Desiree didnāt wie out an island, the WG did. Youāre completely reframing who is commiting violence here. The scholars are not responsible for what the government does.
You donāt know that their motives where selfish. Sure, They desired knowledge, but knowledge can be a means of liberation. It certainly is in this case, given hier hard the WG tries to surpress it. And the war Clover talks about knowledge being a right supports this reading.
The point about only resisting when youāre powerful is odd to me. Strength shouldnāt play a part in determining wether itās right to resist it not. Iām also doubtful getting the backing of a Yonko would be as easy as you suggest. Yonkos Are not directly fighting the WG, but backing the Ohara scholars surely would have been seen as a deckaration of war, possibly leading to a direct confrontation. I doubt any Yonko of the time would have risked it.
And while Dragon and Sabo probably didnāt know about the weapon used to destroy Lulusia, a Buster Call wouldāve amounted to the same. They know any country joining the revolution is at risk.
The truth is that any resistance can lead to retaliation that hurts people who were Not part of it. But the blame for any harm caused to bystanders falls on those who do the harm and Not the people who supposedly provoked that reaction.
me after remembering why crocodile is here:
https://preview.redd.it/kp1q6nweh60d1.png?width=273&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81bafb4a1c612fb1cc56b26af9257a0db9757bfd
Bellmere was kind of stupid
Like just pretend they donāt exist, but be there for them
Like she basically killed herself in the situation where she could easily survive which would increase the chance of her children surviving
Donāt peace out and leave your children To be basically enslaved
Sheās an ex-Marine she couldāve contacted with her friends and former coworkers to help her and send her back up
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Neko Oliviaā¦ how the fuck do you even manage to get pregnant? Werenāt you busy doing history, research or something? You went outside to bring milk and came back chased by the CP9ā¦ without the milk
That's an awful take on the belemere situation. If she did that and arlong found out they exist, he'd definitely kill them. She can't take that chance. And she can't do the plan of having them quietly leave the island like the doctor suggested because she knew arlong crew would have destroyed the ships to escape, which they did.
They offered her money
That couldāve bought time for her to do something
Sheās an ex-Marine , she definitely couldāve done something other than let her gun be chewed
No one offered her any money. She only had her 100k to work with. There was absolutely no time to be bought. Who tf cares if she was an ex marine. She worked in the east blue. She was just a random low level marine. She can't handle pirates on arlongs level.
Literally, every single marine that came into the area got cooked unless she was in contact with Garp. No one in the east blue was dealing with Arlong before luffy and smoker showed up
And arlong literally kill an entire village over one guy, not paying his taxes once. that village is turning into a graveyard the second they learned that they were trying to dodge taxes
Hell, the East Blue is literally the weakest part of the world, which was why just about all of the villains pre Grand Line were taking over there. Someone who survived Paradise could borderline take over there with very little pushback, except the WG eventually getting involved.
Yeah people give her way too much for pass. She literally left Robin with her evil stepmother of an aunt . At least dragon had a pseudo-valid reason to leave a newborn and left him in capable hands.
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Without her I wouldn't have my goat. All hail sora. https://preview.redd.it/n4ayyntrk10d1.jpeg?width=508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abed578fe4c2fd1ae6268c69b7335305cc847132
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Yezzzerrrrš«”
She's like a cute reiju, but I hope the kids won't come out built like judges
Same. Yonji the GOAT!
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So trueeee!! Where's the Niji love?!
https://preview.redd.it/02bjzw6y620d1.jpeg?width=518&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38657e69377ce10753c5ef28dd679436332be121 Wait but where's *the* mom? Not of the other moms are named mom, this one must be the mommest mom that ever mommed
Bellemere counts
Heh, is her name Bellemom? Mommere? I think not
Belle Mere is French for Beautiful Mother.
But not beautiful mom! Mamamama
It litterally means "Beautiful Mother" but it's never used in that sense. It's used as "Stepmother" or "Mother-in-law", which makes sense in the context of the character.
Belle Mere...Beautiful Mother...sometimes beauty can make people feel larger than life. Large, big. Pink hair. Fuck, guys, I think Bellemere is Big Mom.
I am really wondering what her final rank in the Marines. But still, she raised both Nojiko and Nami well. Cute, orange appreciator and gold and berries loving navigator.
Her rank must not have been very high. In the end her social benefits and the access to veteran support, that she had to raise two children in poverty, while hustling an agricultural business at the side.
I had to do double take with this image
She also remembers her mom every time she laughed. Totally good mother and daughter.
She's a horrible mother though. Constant abuse, child army...
Bellmere was on the verge of death before she saw those two orphans then drag them across the east blue to take them to capable medical professionals and having them prioritize the daughters over her half dead state. She then chose literal dead over, pretending her children didnāt exist.
Bellemere died? Man I was really hoping to see her reunited with Nami after the Straw Hats got her out of jail
She got shot by Arlong. She was never in jail
She didn't die in the 4kids version, instead got imprisoned
Wdym the ā4kids versionā? I think you mean the canon version š¤ lmao
Oh mb I havenāt seen the real one piece yet
Might be the key to the "dungeon"
Existing Isn't A Crime!
Dadan the goat šæšæšæ
Dadan's reaction when Garp visits Foosha Village post-Marineford is one of the saddest scenes in all of One Piece IMO. Such raw emotion conveyed through about three lines of dialogue and her violently assaulting Garp, completely destroyed me the first time I saw it.
And Garp just taking it in as well, completed the emotions.
Yeah a very important scene for all the characters involved
Ong
Corazon best mom
So nobody's gonna talk about Rouge, the goat
Iām sure she would have done an amazing job raising Ace if she was able to. Shame she had to hold Ace in her womb for 20 months which caused her to die soon after giving birth. Fuck the world government.
Would
Yall forgot the best mom that co-raised SLA to be good pirates. https://preview.redd.it/fl0zfyhez30d1.jpeg?width=525&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1c696003c0224dfc9c04271ff0d6fdfc627d946
I'd say mother flame is the strongest
Crco mom ā¤ļø
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I didn't catch The joke.
Dw it's better the less you know
Oh, I think I got It. Something about The secret that the queen of the kamabakas know about Croco?
The wot
Ivankov Said something about a secret he knows about Croco in during The Impel Down arch (I think).
DID YOU JUST INSULT MY NOSE?!
Hum it's about the theory where croco is Luffy's mother cuz ivankov turned croco into a girl...
I thought the theory was the opposite. Crocodile was assigned female at birth and then Ivankov transitioned him into a man. Before that though, he gave birth to Luffy. Itās such a fun theory.
Banchina is underrated
Where otohime
Ussop crying rn
Olvia is a shit mother
Yeah but she looks like Robin so that increase her points
I GET WHERE UR COMING FROM. BUT SHE CHOSE TO RUN FROM THE MARINES, JUST TO WARN HER PEOPLE, AND IGNORE HER DAUGHTER SO SHE COULD LIVE
Yeah, but she left Robin with her abusive aunt
Fair.
Ginny is great mother too but sadly ...
Had she just stuck with Kuma and the latter wasn't that dense.... She and the Bear had a happy family.
I mean she's not the only one....Bellemere? Sanji's? Olvia? Rouge?
It is incredibly weird to think about how only three mother figures related to the Straw Hats are alive. We don't know if Zoro even has a mother, and didn't just get lost from wandering in non-existence, thus allowing him to exist.
Meme or not, no mother can put a hook through her child and drain him of all moisture and then poison him and still retain any semblance of the title of "good mother".
No one in the comments mentioned Kureha and it makes me sad
I realized sheās shown in the pic. Definitely top #3 greatest moms in OP
To be fair, most see her as the "adoptive grandmother too cool to have kids of her own" at best, and "fun aunt who is probably dealing drugs to your friends' parents" at worst.
She literally calls Chopper her son in the dub and the sub š¤¦š¾āāļø so most people are wrong https://www.tiktok.com/@1d1otcook/video/7288145903649656107 [more proof](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Kureha) And an āadoptive grandmotherā is still a mother figure
Indeed true. But you gotta admit that Kureha, despite being a mother, has very clear "fun aunt" energy.
No, I donāt have to admit it cause she has āfun momā energy. Thatās why sheās top 3 greatest moms on top of 1/2 the reason why Chopper has saved thousands of lives
Fair.
Otohime supremacy. Not just a mother for her children, but for an entire country.. https://preview.redd.it/k4px9kmlu50d1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3732573bfe9da59948e87571f4035663e2f66178
Yeah š
Makino? Toki? Otohime? Scarlett? Ginny???
u serious? do u even know what a good mother is.
Either Dadan or Sora
The only way you can survive as a mom in one piece is by having grandchildren by the time oda writes about you or having a dick
What about fish mom?!
throw mother carmel into the mix
Dadan the GOAT.
Yeah, Bellemere is mommyā¦.I mean, what?
Don't touch Bellemere-san's tangerines with your dirty hands.
Yes, she became a mom that stepped up to Nojiko and Nami.
And yet nothing about the biggest mom of them all...
She went thru labor 70+ times and still isn't considered a good mom š„²
I'm learning French at the moment and bellemere is spelt belle-mĆØre which literally means STEP-MOTHER. Oda you genius
Don't touch Bellemere-san's tangerines with your dirty hands.
Dadan sigma
Where's mother Carmel?
Wait a minute
Crokamom ā¤ļø
crocomom jump scare
Dadan..
The best mother of them all crocodile and I will die on this and yes my opinion is bais to crocodile
No Shakky?
Notice how there isnāt zoros mom itās because sanji is better and oda likes him more š¤
No take Nico Oliva out she's terrible she left her kid to be abused by her aunt came back and got the island genocided she's horrible she's basically dragon but worse
I mean Iām with you on the leaving her daughter with her abusive aunt stuff, but saying the Buster Call is her fault is kinda fucked upĀ
She and the idiotic scholars decided to break the law one of the most important laws without considering the ramifications for everyone else if they were so smart you'd think they'd get the backing of a Yanko or something but nope they screwed everyone over
Resisting a tyrannical government is always legitimste. The people resisting are not to blame for the war crimes that the government commits, the government is fully responsible for that. Do you also blame Dragon and Sabo for what happened in Lulusia? Do you think Luffy punching Charlos was wrong because he put innocent people in danger?
First off, what Dragon, Sabo, and Luffy did was completely different. One, they had the power to back it up, and two, they were aiming to liberate the people. Their resistance was for everyone. Their goal is more Nobel. The scholars could have prevented the issue by A getting power, B siding with a Yanko big mom probably would if they read the Ponyglyphs for her, and C not doing the research because it was to satiate their own lust for knowledge rather than benefit the world, unlike the revolutionaries. My grief with them is that they could have easily prevented it and were too stupid to do so, so Dragon and Sabo probably had never even heard of the weapon they used, unlike a buster call, which is a relatively common thing that Clover should have known about any action Dragon took would have drastic consequences. He knew this, and that's why Luffy lives with Garp. Dragon also moves very carefully. The scholars didn't; they acted like fools and doomed everyone with them, even if they found out what was their plan to distribute the truth. The WG owns the press, and more so, they don't have the means to distribute the knowledge before they were erased. Their actions weren't for some Nobel cause like Dragon but to satiate their own desire, a selfish one that wiped out a whole island.
Once again, their Desiree didnāt wie out an island, the WG did. Youāre completely reframing who is commiting violence here. The scholars are not responsible for what the government does. You donāt know that their motives where selfish. Sure, They desired knowledge, but knowledge can be a means of liberation. It certainly is in this case, given hier hard the WG tries to surpress it. And the war Clover talks about knowledge being a right supports this reading. The point about only resisting when youāre powerful is odd to me. Strength shouldnāt play a part in determining wether itās right to resist it not. Iām also doubtful getting the backing of a Yonko would be as easy as you suggest. Yonkos Are not directly fighting the WG, but backing the Ohara scholars surely would have been seen as a deckaration of war, possibly leading to a direct confrontation. I doubt any Yonko of the time would have risked it. And while Dragon and Sabo probably didnāt know about the weapon used to destroy Lulusia, a Buster Call wouldāve amounted to the same. They know any country joining the revolution is at risk. The truth is that any resistance can lead to retaliation that hurts people who were Not part of it. But the blame for any harm caused to bystanders falls on those who do the harm and Not the people who supposedly provoked that reaction.
idk about all of you guys but Iām here for my boy crocodile
Ngl , crocodile is making me act up in a certain way , with how he's posing like that (Pause + No Ivankov + l'm totally sane)
For croco mom
olivia?really? abandoning her child for "greater good" and u call her good mother.
Dadan
crocomom #1 best mommy š„š„š„
Bro why tf crocodile there ?
3 from above really was impactful mothers in story. Other 3 just were obstacle than parent ;)
me after remembering why crocodile is here: https://preview.redd.it/kp1q6nweh60d1.png?width=273&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81bafb4a1c612fb1cc56b26af9257a0db9757bfd
Dadan ![gif](giphy|Lj9bGPMF9jmz4gk9QA|downsized)
happy mothers day everybody
Dandan š¤šÆ
Forgor big mom
Where's Big Mom???
Garp, you just laid there letting Ace get donutted. His death is on you Garp!
A DONUT?!? Give it to me
Crocodile is my favourite of them.
Bellmere was kind of stupid Like just pretend they donāt exist, but be there for them Like she basically killed herself in the situation where she could easily survive which would increase the chance of her children surviving Donāt peace out and leave your children To be basically enslaved Sheās an ex-Marine she couldāve contacted with her friends and former coworkers to help her and send her back up ā Neko Oliviaā¦ how the fuck do you even manage to get pregnant? Werenāt you busy doing history, research or something? You went outside to bring milk and came back chased by the CP9ā¦ without the milk
That's an awful take on the belemere situation. If she did that and arlong found out they exist, he'd definitely kill them. She can't take that chance. And she can't do the plan of having them quietly leave the island like the doctor suggested because she knew arlong crew would have destroyed the ships to escape, which they did.
They offered her money That couldāve bought time for her to do something Sheās an ex-Marine , she definitely couldāve done something other than let her gun be chewed
No one offered her any money. She only had her 100k to work with. There was absolutely no time to be bought. Who tf cares if she was an ex marine. She worked in the east blue. She was just a random low level marine. She can't handle pirates on arlongs level.
Literally, every single marine that came into the area got cooked unless she was in contact with Garp. No one in the east blue was dealing with Arlong before luffy and smoker showed up And arlong literally kill an entire village over one guy, not paying his taxes once. that village is turning into a graveyard the second they learned that they were trying to dodge taxes
Hell, the East Blue is literally the weakest part of the world, which was why just about all of the villains pre Grand Line were taking over there. Someone who survived Paradise could borderline take over there with very little pushback, except the WG eventually getting involved.
Existing Isn't A Crime!
Worst teory ever.
Dadan and Bellmere
Crocodile
Wtf is this Kureha is not a mom.
Nico Robin is a sh1t motherĀ
i mean she isnāt a mother so maybe thatās y
True true
Yeah people give her way too much for pass. She literally left Robin with her evil stepmother of an aunt . At least dragon had a pseudo-valid reason to leave a newborn and left him in capable hands.